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CJ I don't Understand.
 Originally Posted by CookyJar
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Thanks for the input. Come by anyt
I picked up a girl once, she was young, pretty and so innocence in looks and actions. I drove around the block and for some reason, I changed my mind. We were stopped at a busy intersection. She grabbed my keys out of my ignition and demanded fifty dollars. I grabbed her by the back of her neck; I'm a pretty big guy. A black girl who was standing nearby came over. That young, innocent little white girl turned into a cussing fussing little hood rat. She called me everything, but a child of god. She had the worst mouth that I've ever heard on anybody and I'm a Marine (Once a marine, always a marine). I didn't want to hit the little thing, so I offered the black girl $20 to get my keys out of her other hand.
The black girl retrieved my keys and I gave her the $20. She also remove the little she devil from my car.
A week later, I meet up with this very same little white girl. We don't remember each other. Over time we dated 8 or 9 times. Somewhere during that time, I remembered her from that night. I have some great pictures of her and they are on this site. I won't show them or mention her name, may she rest in peace. I will never forget the lesson she taught me. I'll never let my guard down.
Just think about it for a minute. When have college girls ever been innocent? Maybe in the 1800's. They weren't all that innocent when I was in school (but maybe that's because I went to an all-black college)..
My keys in the ignition can't be removed unless I am in park so how could she remove your key?
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RE: Love your posts CJ
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I also like SBs and perhaps the college girls. In Vegas on many of my 60 plus trips for work. It does get old. But the college girls there are plentiful and enjoy making extra money working their way thru school. I have had some great ones. More than a SW but so much cleaner no demands no rules just a good time. That is enjoyable.
There is a good advantage to multi forms of social media that girls use to find assistance. Some are just a totally normal girl who might need extra spending money. Not a girl who is Jonesing for drugs. I detest the girl who needs the drug money and is a pain in the ass with rules this and sometimes not the cleanest.
Thank you for all the wonderful posts. Keep up the good work. I enjoy visiting your thread.
Thanks for the input. Come by anytime.
I picked up a girl once, she was young, pretty and so innocence in looks and actions. I drove around the block and for some reason, I changed my mind. We were stopped at a busy intersection. She grabbed my keys out of my ignition and demanded fifty dollars. I grabbed her by the back of her neck; I'm a pretty big guy. A black girl who was standing nearby came over. That young, innocent little white girl turned into a cussing fussing little hood rat. She called me everything, but a child of god. She had the worst mouth that I've ever heard on anybody and I'm a Marine (Once a marine, always a marine). I didn't want to hit the little thing, so I offered the black girl $20 to get my keys out of her other hand.
The black girl retrieved my keys and I gave her the $20. She also remove the little she devil from my car.
A week later, I meet up with this very same little white girl. We don't remember each other. Over time we dated 8 or 9 times. Somewhere during that time, I remembered her from that night. I have some great pictures of her and they are on this site. I won't show them or mention her name, may she rest in peace. I will never forget the lesson she taught me. I'll never let my guard down.
Just think about it for a minute. When have college girls ever been innocent? Maybe in the 1800's. They weren't all that innocent when I was in school (but maybe that's because I went to an all-black college). They weren't too innocent when my kids attended college. Think about it, how innocent can they be if they are fucking you. Trust me; it's all part of the game. Would you give them your hard earned money if they acted butt wild? They are just giving you what you're paying for. Are these the same sweet and innocent little college girls that I see flashing their tits during Mardi Gras or during spring break. Just think, what's the definition of sweet and innocent? Is it fucking old men for money? No! Sweet and innocent little college girls just don't do that. A good girl won't suck your dick or let you butt fuck her. That's what bad girls do.
They act sweet and innocent for your sake.
CookyJar.
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 Originally Posted by CookyJar
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It's all a game. A illusion and part of the tricks they play. They can all do it, if the need arises. They can make you believe that it's the first time, every time.
I am sorry my friend, but I most disagree. Pussy is Pussy. If looks are in the eye of the beholder, then good pussy is in the mind of the fucker.
You stick your dick in her and she's a so, so fuck. Another guy comes along; sticks his dick in the same girl and she's the cat meow. She might be tight to me and loose to you, but in the end, it's the same pussy that we fucked. Plus! On any given day the pussy may seem different from the day before. Sometimes it's you and some days it may be her the pussy doesn't change, we change. We are the difference, the pussy doesn't change it's the same.
How many times has this happened to you? You meet a girl, you fuck her and it's great. You come back the next week for some more and you fuck her again, it's the same pussy, but the worse fuck. It's not the pussy that's different; it's all in the mind. Maybe she was in the mood the first time or maybe she likes fucking strange. Her pussy hasn't changed, she has.
Its the thrill of the hunt and finding something new who doesn't try to get over. So many times I found that cool one but, its becomes more of the same and then onto the next one.
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RE: SBs or SWs: All the same?
 Originally Posted by PartyTimeGuy
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Yes, some SWs, including Jordan, might clean up pretty good with a shower, a pretty scent and a nice blouse and skirt. BUT. Will they bring you the genuine sweet innocence of a real college co-ed who just entered the pay for play game for the very first time?
It's all a game. A illusion and part of the tricks they play. They can all do it, if the need arises. They can make you believe that it's the first time, every time.
I am sorry my friend, but I most disagree. Pussy is Pussy. If looks are in the eye of the beholder, then good pussy is in the mind of the fucker.
You stick your dick in her and she's a so, so fuck. Another guy comes along; sticks his dick in the same girl and she's the cat meow. She might be tight to me and loose to you, but in the end, it's the same pussy that we fucked. Plus! On any given day the pussy may seem different from the day before. Sometimes it's you and some days it may be her – the pussy doesn't change, we change. We are the difference, the pussy doesn't change – it's the same.
How many times has this happened to you? You meet a girl, you fuck her and it's great. You come back the next week for some more and you fuck her again, it's the same pussy, but the worse fuck. It's not the pussy that's different; it's all in the mind. Maybe she was in the mood the first time or maybe she likes fucking strange. Her pussy hasn't changed, she has.
I was fucking this girl regularly three or four times a week, for about a month. We worked together. The pussy was great. One day, we're on the job at night and she comes to my office, and we fuck. Worse fuck ever. Afterwards I asked her was there a problem. She said to me, "You're married aren't you. " I said yeah, I thought you knew (Everyone on the job knew). We talked a little. I took her home and spent the night – the good pussy was back. There wasn't anything wrong with the pussy. There was something wrong with her head.
I could give you plenty of examples. Here let me give you another one. There was this girl we were a couple for a few months. Basically she got on my nerves, so we broke up. I really didn't like her. Every once in a while, maybe two or three times a year, she called and come over. We'd fuck and then I wouldn't see her for a while. It didn't cost me anything, she could fuck and that's all we ever did. Maybe a year goes by and out of the blue she calls and asks to come over. We fucked twice that night and again in the morning. We are lying in bed and I am tired of her, waiting for her to get up and leave. She ask me about the night before, had I noticed any difference. She points to a scar and says she has had a hysterectomy. She wants to know if I could tell the difference. I asked her if they had taken out her clitoris. She said no, just her uterus. I said I wasn't using her uterus, I wasn't going that deep. I told her she still had the parts I liked and if it was good for her, it certainly was good to me. After she had gone I thought to myself, what a nut, we'd mostly done anal – she had a great little ass.
Pussy is pussy, Freud knew that. Sex is all in the head, the mind is our strangest sexual tool.
CookyJar.
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 Originally Posted by CookyJar
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PSS: I found Jordan off of Kensington Avenue near Huntingdon station, while I was looking for Rain. At the time I was taking a shot, a long shot, TOFTT, dressed in baggy clothing, she didn't look like much. She was certainly worth the effort. Sorry, but I have no phone number for her. Maybe one of the other fellows who stated that they know her can help out with additional information and a more detailed review.
In my book, Jordan is a keeper. Look at her pictures, see the smile, the dancing, the different poses and her expression she was having fun and that made the session fun.
I would like to find her one day soon.
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RE: SugarBabies
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I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.
Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation.
LOL. Hold on, wait one minute.
Are you implying that no Sugar baby uses drugs and that none are capable of robbery? Every so often it's in the news where some sugar baby and her boyfriend robs or setup some dopey un-suspecting guy. College girls and Sugar babies can't get and pass-on HepC, HIV and etc. Is that what you think?
 Originally Posted by DoNotDeevee8
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A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets.
Where have you been? The majority of girls on drugs and working in the sex trades started their habits in the suburbs, or at college. They start off popping pills and smoking pot while partying. Where do you think these girl come from, the ghetto? Ghetto girls know better. It is part of the illusion, that the sugar baby most present. She has to persuade you that she is clean, wholesome and worth the extra money she asking.
Most streetwalkers claim they just need money for the babysitter, food or rent. ROFLMBAO.
 Originally Posted by DoNotDeevee8
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Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).
The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.
Many of the Sugar babies you've met are just very good actress.
The girls working in the sex trade who are serious and have been working for any length of time are better actress than any of the ones you see in the movies. And, Liars! Jesus! Can these girls lie? Believe what you want, but if you believe sugar babies don't lie I have a bridge in New York I would like to sell you.
 Originally Posted by DoNotDeevee8
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All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.
Take part of that $200 that you were going to spend on a sugar baby and rent a room. Let het take a shower, put on some dollar store make-up and perfume and save yourself a few bucks. Plus! I am willing to bet she will out fuck any novice college sugar baby. Don't forget to wrap that w'rascal.
 Originally Posted by DoNotDeevee8
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The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.
Who needs that? If I needed to talk to someone I'd talk to my wife or side piece.
 Originally Posted by DoNotDeevee8
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Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.
Wow! Just think what you could get if you got out of the car, rented a room, an extra $10 and a Big Mac.
 Originally Posted by DoNotDeevee8
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My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.
Everything is on the menu? I doubt that. Even your better looking streetwalkers think their shit does not stink. But, most Streetwalker will go way farther than the average non-pro. Streetwalker think that most of their clients want what they cannot get at home. True or not, it is the reason streetwalkers work harder. Your average streetwalker wants repeat clients and regulars if they can get them. IMHO, streetwalkers do it better.
 Originally Posted by DoNotDeevee8
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Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.
My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.
Good luck and stay safe.
Whatever floats you boat. Every guy is a little different.
No offense intended. I am just kidding around. I appreciated your input.
CookyJar.
P.S.: I live for strange. It's a little like being hooked on dope I'm always chasing the better high, looking for the better piece.
PSS: I found Jordan off of Kensington Avenue near Huntingdon station, while I was looking for Rain. At the time I was taking a shot, a long shot, TOFTT, dressed in baggy clothing, she didn't look like much. She was certainly worth the effort. Sorry, but I have no phone number for her. Maybe one of the other fellows who stated that they know her can help out with additional information and a more detailed review.
In my book, Jordan is a keeper. Look at her pictures, see the smile, the dancing, the different poses and her expression she was having fun and that made the session fun.
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 Originally Posted by PartyTimeGuy
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If you want a reliably consistent and regular thing with a girl, you need to be in touch by phone. A burner phone is the best option.
One maxim has always been true: the "golden rule.:" the one with the pussy makes the rules. The best we can hope for is to bend them a little.
The one paying makes the rules. When I get bored, I move on. There are millions out there for sale. We can choose from 1,000's whereas they take whatever comes their way.
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Love your posts CJ
I also like SBs and perhaps the college girls. In Vegas on many of my 60 plus trips for work. It does get old. But the college girls there are plentiful and enjoy making extra money working their way thru school. I have had some great ones. More than a SW but so much cleaner no demands no rules just a good time. That is enjoyable.
There is a good advantage to multi forms of social media that girls use to find assistance. Some are just a totally normal girl who might need extra spending money. Not a girl who is Jonesing for drugs. I detest the girl who needs the drug money and is a pain in the ass with rules this and sometimes not the cleanest.
Thank you for all the wonderful posts. Keep up the good work. I enjoy visiting your thread.
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SBs or SWs: All the same?
 Originally Posted by CookyJar
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It's all the same. Underneath, it's all the same.
Remember the movie with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, Trading Places. Remember the premise?
The storyline is a modern take on Mark Twain's, The Prince and the Pauper. If the Prince and the Pauper are interchangeable, should not the Princess and Raggedy Ann be interchangeable. Should not the same apply to women? The wh0re is interchangeable with the housewife. The college student is interchangeable with the call girl. The streetwalker is interchangeable with the Sugar Baby.
It is all window dressing. A nice shower, some make-up, a little perfume, a book bag across her shoulder, a little preparation and Jordan could walk any college courtyard and no one would guess what she was selling.
Be realistic, when the best looking starlet steps out of the shower, slips into bed and under the sheets and the light are off, it's just pussy. Nothing more and nothing less, it's all the same. Underneath, they are all the same, beautiful women.
Your friend's perception is delusional. It's all in his head. All other things being equal, an Armani suit is a Armani suit, whether it's bought on Rodeo Drive or Kensington Avenue.
CookyJar.
Yes, some SWs, including Jordan, might clean up pretty good with a shower, a pretty scent and a nice blouse and skirt. BUT. Will they bring you the genuine sweet innocence of a real college co-ed who just entered the pay for play game for the very first time? Looks are one thing. Personality and attitude are another. A few SW gems could fill this bill but certainly not nearly all. I admitted that there were some SWs who might make good SBs. That's how this whole discussion got started in the first place. I suggested that Jordan and Rain could be good examples of this. But let's not pretend that all pussy is the same. That's absurd. It just isn't. And it isn't just some perception or delusion. Some pussy is just worth more than others for a whole host of reasons that only partly have to do with what a girl looks like. Attitude, intelligence, sensuality and personality are just a few of the numerous characteristics that are important parts of the equation. Just because you don't choose to play in a pool of genuine college-aged nubile gorgeous and innocent sweeties doesn't make your choices of SWs on the Ave just the same or better. A few might be close, but they just aren't the same and no quantity of claim by you will make it so. That is not to say that they are lesser or inferior. They are simply choices we make. I like SWs. I like SBs. I like pussy of all varieties and prices. And sometimes you can have a high quality girl for a bargain price. But they are most definitely NOT "all the same. ". If they were all the same I would stick with one good one and not seek variety. But that's another subject called why have a SO? Viva la difference.
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RE: Perception is Reality
 Originally Posted by PartyTimeGuy
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the labels reveal more about the monger than the girl.
I had a friend who always paid top dollar for everything. He would only buy Armani suits at the highest prices. I found an Armani in a thrift shop for 20 bucks. He was happy in his delusion that he only bought the best and I was happy to get a bargain. Same suit. Different perception and feeling. Perception is reality.
It's all the same. Underneath, it's all the same.
Remember the movie with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, Trading Places. Remember the premise?
The storyline is a modern take on Mark Twain's, The Prince and the Pauper. If the Prince and the Pauper are interchangeable, should not the Princess and Raggedy Ann be interchangeable. Should not the same apply to women? The wh0re is interchangeable with the housewife. The college student is interchangeable with the call girl. The streetwalker is interchangeable with the Sugar Baby.
It is all window dressing. A nice shower, some make-up, a little perfume, a book bag across her shoulder, a little preparation and Jordan could walk any college courtyard and no one would guess what she was selling.
Be realistic, when the best looking starlet steps out of the shower, slips into bed and under the sheets and the light are off, it's just pussy. Nothing more and nothing less, it's all the same. Underneath, they are all the same, beautiful women.
Your friend's perception is delusional. It's all in his head. All other things being equal, an Armani suit is a Armani suit, whether it's bought on Rodeo Drive or Kensington Avenue.
CookyJar.
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SBs vs SWs
 Originally Posted by DoNotDeevee8
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I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.
Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation.
A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets.
Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).
The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.
All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.
The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.
Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.
My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.
Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.
My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.
Good luck and stay safe.
You are absolutely 100% on the money IMHO and based on my experience. Sometimes we want filet mignon and sometimes a greasy burger and every now and then some wild boar. We usually but don't always get the quality we pay for but the little head wants what the little head wants, and sometimes the big head has a great time too.
It's all good my brothers!
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SugarBabies
I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.
Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation.
A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets.
Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).
The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.
All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.
The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.
Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.
My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.
Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.
My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.
Good luck and stay safe.
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Prostitution Food Chain
 Originally Posted by CookyJar
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I agree! Also! The term Sugar Baby lets the guy think he's getting something higher-up on the prostitution food chain. The sugar daddy / sugar baby hookup allows the guy to believe that he's getting something better than the average monger. Some people think that paying more, naturally gets them better quality.
CookyJar.
"Prostitution Food Chain. " I like that!
Sometimes you get more when you pay more and sometimes you don't. I know that when I have fished and do fish in the SB pond I get more gorgeous, sweet college-aged tail than I ever got when I was in college. To me they seemed innocent and brand new to the pay for play biz, which is what I was paying for. Maybe I could have found some of them on the corner the next day and had a pipe cleaning for a Jackson, but I doubt it. It is always possible that any of these SBs could eventually be had at bargain basement prices on the Ave. I have had SWs that were just as fine as any SB. So SW gems are clearly available. But I never had any SBs that were as awful as some of the SWs I have encountered. Like I said. Sometimes you get more when you pay more and sometimes you don't.
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Of Phone Numbers and Rules
 Originally Posted by CookyJar
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One thing that I don't do, is give out my phone number. I did it once and learned not to do it again.
If you want a reliably consistent and regular thing with a girl, you need to be in touch by phone. A burner phone is the best option.
 Originally Posted by CookyJar
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We, men, always believe we are setting the rules. Nothing can be further from the truth. If I made up the rules, women would be paying me. 😀.
One maxim has always been true: the "golden rule.:" the one with the pussy makes the rules. The best we can hope for is to bend them a little.
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Perception is Reality
 Originally Posted by CookyJar
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Customize it however you want, it's still pay to play. How often you do it, no matter the time frame, it's pay to play. Same as it's always been, same as it always will be.
CookyJar.
Of course it is pay to play. That's what this website is all about. But there are gradations of the process and we give labels to the girl and / or the experience: SW, UTR, SB, escort, whatever. The labels can mean different things to different people and sometimes the labels reveal more about the monger than the girl. That doesn't mean the labels are invalid and it's all the same thing, even though the same girl can be all of these labels to different guys at different times. It can be about how much you pay and / or how you perceive or want to be perceived paying to play. A true-blue dyed in the wool SD most likely wants to be perceived as a top dog, dining in the best restaurants while the rest of us slobs are scarfing down Big Macs. In reality the same girl a SD calls his SB could be plying her trade on Kensington Ave the next day. She can be his SB and your SW. Are you both wrong or both right? Depends whether one asks him or you.
I had a friend who always paid top dollar for everything. He would only buy Armani suits at the highest prices. I found an Armani in a thrift shop for 20 bucks. He was happy in his delusion that he only bought the best and I was happy to get a bargain. Same suit. Different perception and feeling. Perception is reality.
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