The Sugar World

**Lotsoffun201** · 02-07-19 14:57

Originally Posted by PartyTimeGuy [View Original Post]

OMG that comment hit home. See my recent post about this very subject.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...89#post4138689

Crazy story. Makes me think about that one. Funny thing is she just got a DUI I think. I'll probably wind up cutting her loose, but she's damn hot. Eh, there's always another one on deck.

**PartyTimeGuy** · 02-07-19 13:19

Originally Posted by Lotsoffun201 [View Original Post]

The other is in her 40's, a bit more of a partier but has another job. She just likes to be treated to nice dinners, gives great GFE no additional charge. Trouble is I can only take her in small doses as she gets a little goofy when she drinks.

OMG that comment hit home. See my recent post about this very subject.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...89#post4138689

**Lotsoffun201** · 02-07-19 09:56

Originally Posted by PartyTimeGuy [View Original Post]

Just got back from a trip to Vegas.

I totally agree with your approach. It not only works in Vegas but also in other locations. Day shift strippers are the best! Some of the best SBs I ever had were on the day shift. The night shift seems to have more GPS, just like most of the pussy on the sugar sites. Girls who have to work hard to have a few bills stuffed in their G-string seem to appreciate a good SD situation, give you the GFE you want, come very reasonably priced, and are thankful for the extra cash. Besides, you can interview them live and have a pretty good idea what you are getting long before you make the sugar offer.

BTW: I love those looks when you are with your "niece. " LOL I tell my "nieces" to blow a kiss to the up-tight (usually older) women who give them the hairy eyeball. Let's face it: they are jealous and want the younguns to stay out of "their" territory. Women of all ages are catty as hell!

That's my point exactly. Night girls, particularly the young hot ones are used to getting thousands stuffed in their gstring. For the most part, they're party girls, flaky, and frankly not very good company. Day girls work harder for less, many times they are either single moms, going to school, or have another job. They appreciate the attention, generally provide great GFE for reasonable amounts or better yet, appreciate a nice date etc. They appreciate a good ongoing thing. I have two now that I met locally one is in her late 30's, goes to school and has her shit together. We get together once every two weeks or so for cocktails or dinner and then an hour or so of GFE $$ The other is in her 40's, a bit more of a partier but has another job. She just likes to be treated to nice dinners, gives great GFE no additional charge. Trouble is I can only take her in small doses as she gets a little goofy when she drinks.

**PartyTimeGuy** · 02-07-19 05:37

Originally Posted by Lotsoffun201 [View Original Post]

I've quit looking online and have had the best luck recently finding girls who work day shifts at the clubs. This is my take on why this works best:

1. You're local so it can be a regular thing. They rip you off and they're done.

2. There is never a question as to whether the photos are real.

3. They're smart enough not to blow a good thing.

4. Prices are reasonable for 1-2 hour meet ups.

I've met two recently. Both are easily 9 in appearance and have told me thy were on WYP and a couple other sites. Both would travel with me at no additional cost other than airfare and room which I'm buying anyway. Both are older and very mature so you don't get those looks when you're with your "niece".

Generally these girls bring up an arrangement to me, and not the other way around. I believe if you ask them first, they come up with some ridiculous GPS figure, but when it's their idea, it's much more reasonable. This method takes time and patience but it seems to pay off pretty well for me at least.

Just got back from a trip to Vegas.

I totally agree with your approach. It not only works in Vegas but also in other locations. Day shift strippers are the best! Some of the best SBs I ever had were on the day shift. The night shift seems to have more GPS, just like most of the pussy on the sugar sites. Girls who have to work hard to have a few bills stuffed in their G-string seem to appreciate a good SD situation, give you the GFE you want, come very reasonably priced, and are thankful for the extra cash. Besides, you can interview them live and have a pretty good idea what you are getting long before you make the sugar offer.

BTW: I love those looks when you are with your "niece. " LOL I tell my "nieces" to blow a kiss to the up-tight (usually older) women who give them the hairy eyeball. Let's face it: they are jealous and want the younguns to stay out of "their" territory. Women of all ages are catty as hell!

**Ptaotp** · 02-07-19 03:38

Originally Posted by Lotsoffun201 [View Original Post]

I've quit looking online and have had the best luck recently finding girls who work day shifts at the clubs. This is my take on why this works best:

1. You're local so it can be a regular thing. They rip you off and they're done.

2. There is never a question as to whether the photos are real.

3. They're smart enough not to blow a good thing.

4. Prices are reasonable for 1-2 hour meet ups.

I've met two recently. Both are easily 9 in appearance and have told me thy were on WYP and a couple other sites. Both would travel with me at no additional cost other than airfare and room which I'm buying anyway. Both are older and very mature so you don't get those looks when you're with your "niece".

Generally these girls bring up an arrangement to me, and not the other way around. I believe if you ask them first, they come up with some ridiculous GPS figure, but when it's their idea, it's much more reasonable. This method takes time and patience but it seems to pay off pretty well for me at least.

There is incredible value in day shift strippers. Most of them bored AF, not making enough $, and you can find some super hot chicks.

**Lotsoffun201** · 02-06-19 12:34

Originally Posted by RanLikeWind [View Original Post]

Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but what is WYP?

What's your price. It's a sugar site.

**RanLikeWind** · 02-06-19 12:30

Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but what is WYP?

**Lotsoffun201** · 02-06-19 11:01

I've quit looking online and have had the best luck recently finding girls who work day shifts at the clubs. This is my take on why this works best:

1. You're local so it can be a regular thing. They rip you off and they're done.

2. There is never a question as to whether the photos are real.

3. They're smart enough not to blow a good thing.

4. Prices are reasonable for 1-2 hour meet ups.

I've met two recently. Both are easily 9 in appearance and have told me thy were on WYP and a couple other sites. Both would travel with me at no additional cost other than airfare and room which I'm buying anyway. Both are older and very mature so you don't get those looks when you're with your "niece".

Generally these girls bring up an arrangement to me, and not the other way around. I believe if you ask them first, they come up with some ridiculous GPS figure, but when it's their idea, it's much more reasonable. This method takes time and patience but it seems to pay off pretty well for me at least.

**MDxxx** · 02-06-19 03:00

Originally Posted by Dbuys [View Original Post]

Not trying to sound like a jerk, but I think your approach is totally the problem here. Most of these girls don't view themselves as escorts so if you jump straight to the money / menu they get offended and either don't reply or quote high with the hope you will either say yes and they will get their top dollar or you will go away. Try and be nice and funny at first, show a little personality. They will lower their guards a bit once they think you are possibly a decent guy with money. Once the money comes up, if they go high say "wow that's more than I was expecting, most quotes are in the $200-$250 range. " If they don't budge or don't come down low enough, on to the next. In one month, I've seen 4 girls and donation ranged from $100-300. I have two others lined up for next week, both in the $200 range. I've talked with many others and some are still out of my preferred range so I move on.

Also, don't let on that it's a one time thing (even though let's be honest. It is), pretend you are really interested in finding the right SB. If they ask for an allowance or an on-going thing, say "I always do ppm on first meeting to make sure we're compatible, then we can discuss allowance for future visits" (spoiler. There are no future visits unless they completely blow me away).

It is way more work than mojo and other escort sites because with escorts both parties know what's up from the onset. SB like to pretend they're different, so you have to approach it as such. If you don't want to work for it, then I agree SA isn't for you. If you are willing to put in the work, the rewards are great.

For the most part, I do agree with you on not doing an initial meet and greet, unless she is extremely hot and you are willing to take this step to try and seal the deal. And if you do take this step, make it clear you are just paying for the meal and not meal + time. Life's too short to pay not to get laid.

Not to sound like a jerk too but if you're getting girls on this site for 100-300 why don't you post them? Sorry I don't believe you. Your methods may work but give us proof. Every lead I've gotten from this section and even the previous years recommendations have all turned out to be GPS. I've heard advice on what to do and they say they've gotten tons at decent rates but never give the names of those girls. And PTA is 100% right when he says GPS is off the charts and not worth the time asking their rates because they are going to be ridiculous.

**Ptaotp** · 02-06-19 02:49

Originally Posted by Dbuys [View Original Post]

Not trying to sound like a jerk, but I think your approach is totally the problem here. Most of these girls don't view themselves as escorts so if you jump straight to the money / menu they get offended and either don't reply or quote high with the hope you will either say yes and they will get their top dollar or you will go away. Try and be nice and funny at first, show a little personality. They will lower their guards a bit once they think you are possibly a decent guy with money. Once the money comes up, if they go high say "wow that's more than I was expecting, most quotes are in the $200-$250 range. " If they don't budge or don't come down low enough, on to the next. In one month, I've seen 4 girls and donation ranged from $100-300. I have two others lined up for next week, both in the $200 range. I've talked with many others and some are still out of my preferred range so I move on.

Also, don't let on that it's a one time thing (even though let's be honest. It is), pretend you are really interested in finding the right SB. If they ask for an allowance or an on-going thing, say "I always do ppm on first meeting to make sure we're compatible, then we can discuss allowance for future visits" (spoiler. There are no future visits unless they completely blow me away).

It is way more work than mojo and other escort sites because with escorts both parties know what's up from the onset. SB like to pretend they're different, so you have to approach it as such. If you don't want to work for it, then I agree SA isn't for you. If you are willing to put in the work, the rewards are great.

For the most part, I do agree with you on not doing an initial meet and greet, unless she is extremely hot and you are willing to take this step to try and seal the deal. And if you do take this step, make it clear you are just paying for the meal and not meal + time. Life's too short to pay not to get laid.

I agree that the GPS is off the charts on SA. And no offense-unless she's super hot-I don't want to waste my time trying to convince some chick I'm really into HER. I just want to get laid. Try WYP--much more of a semi-pro feel, girls not as hot but still very do-able and most are DTF. I've had great success in the LA and Vegas sections.

**Dbuys** · 02-01-19 19:30

Originally Posted by MDxxx [View Original Post]

I don't even meet and greet these hos on SA. Waste of time. I ask them straight up donation and menu. Always 500-1000. and when you try to lower it they are offended. total bs. These dreamers think their shit don't stink. Or their pussies. This site is just a waste of time. GPS at its worst.

Not trying to sound like a jerk, but I think your approach is totally the problem here. Most of these girls don't view themselves as escorts so if you jump straight to the money / menu they get offended and either don't reply or quote high with the hope you will either say yes and they will get their top dollar or you will go away. Try and be nice and funny at first, show a little personality. They will lower their guards a bit once they think you are possibly a decent guy with money. Once the money comes up, if they go high say "wow that's more than I was expecting, most quotes are in the $200-$250 range. " If they don't budge or don't come down low enough, on to the next. In one month, I've seen 4 girls and donation ranged from $100-300. I have two others lined up for next week, both in the $200 range. I've talked with many others and some are still out of my preferred range so I move on.

Also, don't let on that it's a one time thing (even though let's be honest. It is), pretend you are really interested in finding the right SB. If they ask for an allowance or an on-going thing, say "I always do ppm on first meeting to make sure we're compatible, then we can discuss allowance for future visits" (spoiler. There are no future visits unless they completely blow me away).

It is way more work than mojo and other escort sites because with escorts both parties know what's up from the onset. SB like to pretend they're different, so you have to approach it as such. If you don't want to work for it, then I agree SA isn't for you. If you are willing to put in the work, the rewards are great.

For the most part, I do agree with you on not doing an initial meet and greet, unless she is extremely hot and you are willing to take this step to try and seal the deal. And if you do take this step, make it clear you are just paying for the meal and not meal + time. Life's too short to pay not to get laid.

**MDxxx** · 02-01-19 18:51

Originally Posted by CitySlicker [View Original Post]

MDxxx, I am in the same boat as you guys are. 2 weeks on SA and most quotes are 300-500 easy. I guess I am not spending enough time do meet & greet. I've 2 greet and meet but never really got anywhere and they are time consuming not to mention paying for lunch and coffee. I am not sure how much time you guys are spending on the site but I hunt frequently but dnt have the time to meet for dinner dates.

I don't even meet and greet these hos on SA. Waste of time. I ask them straight up donation and menu. Always 500-1000. and when you try to lower it they are offended. total bs. These dreamers think their shit don't stink. Or their pussies. This site is just a waste of time. GPS at its worst. sorry don’t mean to beat a dead horse. just IMHO.

**City Slicker** · 02-01-19 16:23

Originally Posted by MDxxx [View Original Post]

Well M if that's not your experience please share a few that are in the 200 range bc there is no way ANY of the girls that messaged me would consider anything less than 500/ hr. One offered 300 hhr and I laughed. I still say GPS is all they have on this site but please prove to me it isn't with some names. Even the vicious val girl that was reported for 200 wouldn't go under 600 for me. My luck can't be that bad regarding these hos on this site.

MDxxx, I am in the same boat as you guys are. 2 weeks on SA and most quotes are 300-500 easy. I guess I am not spending enough time do meet & greet. I've 2 greet and meet but never really got anywhere and they are time consuming not to mention paying for lunch and coffee. I am not sure how much time you guys are spending on the site but I hunt frequently but dnt have the time to meet for dinner dates.

**M Neiman** · 02-01-19 15:24

Originally Posted by MDxxx [View Original Post]

Well M if that's not your experience please share a few that are in the 200 range bc there is no way ANY of the girls that messaged me would consider anything less than 500/ hr. One offered 300 hhr and I laughed. I still say GPS is all they have on this site but please prove to me it isn't with some names. Even the vicious val girl that was reported for 200 wouldn't go under 600 for me. My luck can't be that bad regarding these hos on this site.

Years ago a very wise mentor I was lucky to have told me "You make your own luck. " Not sure if it's relevant here but it came to mind when I read your reply.

I'm going to have to respectfully pass on the request to share names.

**MDxxx** · 02-01-19 14:10

Originally Posted by Zimbler [View Original Post]

Thank you for posting that. I was tempted to pay for another month of SA just to message her, because 200 for a young Vegas girl like that is a bargain, but I'm not surprised she got GPS. Vegas is loaded with money. If you're one of these girls would you rather screw 5 guys for 200 each, or wait for one guy to give you 1,000? It's supply & demand. There is a lot of demand in Vegas, so prices are higher. That's why it's best to get a girl that's new to SA, but that doesn't always work either because a new girl may have signed up after hearing how much money her girlfriends are getting per date.

The guy who posted about Vicious Val for 200 posted later that he made a mistake in the amount. It was higher than 200. When I texted her last year she came down to 400, but that's still too high for me.

Yup agree totally. No way I'm renewing the monthly fee. One month of this crap is more than enough. I'll stick with this board for my new prospects.