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  1. #974
    Quote Originally Posted by Jjolly0  [View Original Post]
    I am sure some will attest that they are out there, including myself. Maybe you are not mongering hard enough. Hahaha. . .
    Haha entirely possible as I'm relatively new to this hobby. But in my experience, especially on SA, the lower thr rate goes, the more drama and problems you encounter. Flakiness, excuses, drug habits, etc.

    Not sure if it's the same with semi pro and professionals, but that's what I've found.

    If you have any tips or leads on how (or WHO) to get a better bang for my buck, I'd greatly appreciate it if you shared that knowledge with me.

  2. #973
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    Yeah I definitely meant the metro area (mostly Manhattan) and SA too for the most part. I was also generalizing about providers offering BBFSCIP. If you want regular covered services, yeah you can find that for 200 and below. I just wouldn't pay for that.

    I've met a few SA girls who are willing to do uncovered for that low but they were all outside of the 5 boroughs and some wouldn't do CIP.

    So I was talking about finding a provider or SB, etc. Who would do ALL services uncovered including CIP / CIA / CIM w / swallow and wasn't really old or fat / unattractive / a tranny etc.

    That seems to be impossible to find for under 3-400/ hr or 3-400 per meet for SBs.
    I am sure some will attest that they are out there, including myself. Maybe you are not mongering hard enough. Hahaha. . .

  3. #972
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanatloc  [View Original Post]
    I'm not sure if I follow you. There are plenty providers out there at 200/ hr or under who are perfectly fine by all means and some even offer BBFS. Admittedly I am not talking particularly about Manhattan scene but I'm under an impression (perhaps incorrect one) you are generalizing for the entire NYC metro area.
    Yeah I definitely meant the metro area (mostly Manhattan) and SA too for the most part. I was also generalizing about providers offering BBFSCIP. If you want regular covered services, yeah you can find that for 200 and below. I just wouldn't pay for that.

    I've met a few SA girls who are willing to do uncovered for that low but they were all outside of the 5 boroughs and some wouldn't do CIP.

    So I was talking about finding a provider or SB, etc. Who would do ALL services uncovered including CIP / CIA / CIM w / swallow and wasn't really old or fat / unattractive / a tranny etc.

    That seems to be impossible to find for under 3-400/ hr or 3-400 per meet for SBs.

  4. #971
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    One of the lessons I've learned more than a few times is that if something seems to good to be true, it probably is.

    Whether I was on SA, Switter, or just looking through BP, CL, etc.

    In general, (CDPs like the dollhouse seem to be SOMEWHAT of an exception), it seems like any provider offering their services for below 400/ hr, especially if they claim to offer BBFS / CIP and other extras is one of the following:

    - An online scammer.

    - A "rinser".

    - Lying and planning on a bait / switch tactic like.

    Stefany did according to the previous post.

    - Not the girl in the photos.

    - Really old AND unattractive. There are older providers and ex adult stars who are still good looking and will offer good multi hour rates if they like you, but it STILL won't come out to less than 3-400/ hr.

    -A set up for a robbery. Thankfully I haven't run into this.

    - LEO looking for a quick bust. Thankfully I also haven't run into this since I absolutely cannot risk having an arrest record tarnish my career / employment.

    Did I miss anything?

    That's just my two cents worth of experience thus far. Mostly I've just run into rinsers and online scammers and they all have extremely predictable patterns. So they're easy to spot once you've run into them once.
    I forgot to add to the list: requesting unusually high deposit rates. I know some here subscribe by never paying a deposit, but I've actually had good experiences so far with anyone off of Eros. That being said, anyone who requests more than 10-25% MAX of the appointment as an initial deposit, I would consider HIGHLY SUSPECT, especially if it's someone you haven't previously seen.

  5. #970
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    In general, (CDPs like the dollhouse seem to be SOMEWHAT of an exception), it seems like any provider offering their services for below 400/ hr, especially if they claim to offer BBFS / CIP and other extras is one of the following:
    I'm not sure if I follow you. There are plenty providers out there at 200/ hr or under who are perfectly fine by all means and some even offer BBFS. Admittedly I am not talking particularly about Manhattan scene but I'm under an impression (perhaps incorrect one) you are generalizing for the entire NYC metro area.

  6. #969
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinosellis  [View Original Post]
    Yup glad I could help.
    Definitely, thanks for your initial review. Much appreciated.

  7. #968
    Quote Originally Posted by DennyPas  [View Original Post]
    Hi mongers,

    From my experience Stefany's offerings truly are YMMV. Via text I requested BBFS (hh) for 190. When I showed up I was happy to see an attractive but not stunning white Hispanic (about 5'4" with some curves, nice altered Ds, and an athletic ass and the larger size). Unfortunately (for me) there was no happy ending. She immediately employed the "my manager promised bare" game but offered BBBJ with covered FS for 190. I motioned for my cash back and she seemed to relent and said "okay let me check you first". These were some of the few english words she used. She spoke spanish in order to put on the front that she did not know I wanted uncovered FS.

    Stefany motioned for me to pull down my drawers and she carefully inspected my junk. She then said okay. I assumed this meant BBFS was clear for take off. Moments laters she motions to her month and motions as to make it clear she was once again only offering bbj. After a minute more of back and forth I took my cash and left.

    I will say, Stefany is worth a visit for covered service. I just wouldn't go with the expectation of BBFS. I will say I am young and black and was not able to convey much charm in my broken spanish LOL.
    One of the lessons I've learned more than a few times is that if something seems to good to be true, it probably is.

    Whether I was on SA, Switter, or just looking through BP, CL, etc.

    In general, (CDPs like the dollhouse seem to be SOMEWHAT of an exception), it seems like any provider offering their services for below 400/ hr, especially if they claim to offer BBFS / CIP and other extras is one of the following:

    - An online scammer.

    - A "rinser".

    - Lying and planning on a bait / switch tactic like.

    Stefany did according to the previous post.

    - Not the girl in the photos.

    - Really old AND unattractive. There are older providers and ex adult stars who are still good looking and will offer good multi hour rates if they like you, but it STILL won't come out to less than 3-400/ hr.

    -A set up for a robbery. Thankfully I haven't run into this.

    - LEO looking for a quick bust. Thankfully I also haven't run into this since I absolutely cannot risk having an arrest record tarnish my career / employment.

    Did I miss anything?

    That's just my two cents worth of experience thus far. Mostly I've just run into rinsers and online scammers and they all have extremely predictable patterns. So they're easy to spot once you've run into them once.

  8. #967

    Stefany (white hispanic in ktown)

    Hi mongers,

    From my experience Stefany's offerings truly are YMMV. Via text I requested BBFS (hh) for 190. When I showed up I was happy to see an attractive but not stunning white Hispanic (about 5'4" with some curves, nice altered Ds, and an athletic ass and the larger size). Unfortunately (for me) there was no happy ending. She immediately employed the "my manager promised bare" game but offered BBBJ with covered FS for 190. I motioned for my cash back and she seemed to relent and said "okay let me check you first". These were some of the few english words she used. She spoke spanish in order to put on the front that she did not know I wanted uncovered FS.

    Stefany motioned for me to pull down my drawers and she carefully inspected my junk. She then said okay. I assumed this meant BBFS was clear for take off. Moments laters she motions to her month and motions as to make it clear she was once again only offering bbj. After a minute more of back and forth I took my cash and left.

    I will say, Stefany is worth a visit for covered service. I just wouldn't go with the expectation of BBFS. I will say I am young and black and was not able to convey much charm in my broken spanish LOL.

  9. #966

    Solid

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    Saw her last night. Cute but a little bit too slender and too young (she really is 19) for my tastes.

    She reluctantly did BBFSCIP, though she didn't really seem to mind it. Doesn't do Greek (she didn't even know what that meant until I explained it.).

    Sex was meh, but she did the job.

    Fun to talk to and smoke with but not sure if the experience was worth 300/ hr. Especially if that Latina that someone posted earlier (Stefany?) is 250/ hr and has a way better body.

    Emma comes to NYC every month supposedly, so I guess she's good for a regular thing?

    Not sure if I'd repeat but nice to have as a relatively affordable option.
    Yup glad I could help.

  10. #965

    Emma Grace at Lear

    Saw her last night. Cute but a little bit too slender and too young (she really is 19) for my tastes.

    She reluctantly did BBFSCIP, though she didn't really seem to mind it. Doesn't do Greek (she didn't even know what that meant until I explained it.).

    Sex was meh, but she did the job.

    Fun to talk to and smoke with but not sure if the experience was worth 300/ hr. Especially if that Latina that someone posted earlier (Stefany?) is 250/ hr and has a way better body.

    Emma comes to NYC every month supposedly, so I guess she's good for a regular thing?

    Not sure if I'd repeat but nice to have as a relatively affordable option.

  11. #964
    Quote Originally Posted by Mightydog  [View Original Post]
    Are her pics accurate?
    No pics are not her at all she's thicker but still got nice phat ass and a decent body.

  12. #963
    Quote Originally Posted by CJ7306  [View Original Post]
    Staying at the Manhattan Hotel BBFS was on the menu for $250. Service was decent but not a looker. Beats a visit to the Chinese granmas.

    https://cityxguide.com/escorts/sexy-...3402-13462498/
    Are her pics accurate?

  13. #962
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    That's good to know, thanks for the info. Just be careful with electronic communication because apparently LEOs can hack it. I don't know exactly how much of what was in the picture was truth and what was speculation.

    I've also heard of providers occasionally turning tail and helping the cops set up stings as part of deals to avoid jailtime. I don't know how much truth there is to that either though.
    It's absolutely true that at times the cops will get some escort to work for them temporarily in order to avoid jail time.

    But it's far more likely for them to just put up a fake ad with a fake picture and have dudes come to their hotel room where a female cop is waiting for them.

  14. #961
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    Side note, I just saw a posting on Switter from a reputable provider that bedpage may be affiliated with LEO. Just a heads up.
    This "rumor" has been floating around for a while now. I say "rumor" because as far as I or anyone I know can tell, it's not owned or operated by LEO. But they do post ads there just like they do on ALL the boards. And they do monitor it, just like they do ALL the boards. As a friend of mine who used to work for one of those 3-initial agencies said: LEO wouldn't own any of the sites. It's too much money, time and effort to keep it running, and too easy for word to spread that they own the site defeating the purpose of owning the site. But, when the mood strikes (such as during election time, or when budgets are up for renewal) they do post ads and call girls who post ads so they can make as many busts as they can.

  15. #960

    Most of Bedpage is a scam

    Unless I see a provider from years gone by (with the same phone number), I pretty much don't trust much anything on Bedpage and the other Backpage knockoffs. Some of the ads are so obviously fake, it's kind of comical. First rule for me for any ad, from any provider on any listing platform: Cross-check their phone number.

    Is the number on any review sites? Have they been placing ads on various platforms for a while now? All of these signs indicate that the ad is most likely legit.

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleThrax  [View Original Post]
    Side note, I just saw a posting on Switter from a reputable provider that bedpage may be affiliated with LEO. Just a heads up.

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