"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**Drizzle99** · 09-11-18 00:57

How do I send videos in pm? Had a ton of requests, and don't mind sharing, but can't seem to find the add attachment.

**DArrow404** · 09-10-18 22:36

https://www.seeking.com/member/86cbc...3-c9bc0f719457

I saw Haley last week. Her pics are older as she's now a bit heavier but still attractive. Very nice, willing to please, everything bare, not much of a kisser though. I got her for 2 . 5 which is probably above what I should have paid. However, she does host and was less than 10 minutes away from me so I thought it was worth it and I was just horny. I've given up on escorts since signing up for SA. This is was my first trip to the FC in a few weeks so I ready to hit anything to be honest.

**TrillBoi69** · 09-10-18 22:30

Originally Posted by Ozymandias [View Original Post]

I think just being direct works best. There's certainly no reason to chat for week.

Obviously if you're looking for something more than a fuck toy, the following doesn't apply, but my basic rules are:

1. I make contact. If girls are contacting me, I ignore it. If they favorite me, I ignore it. That's all noise. I focus only on a girl who looks good (I might scan a profile at most), because I want to stick my dick in a hot girl. Period. That's all that matters.

2. I have no interest in having dinner or lunch or whatever. What am I going to discuss over lunch with some 19 year old hoe? What a loss of an hour. I explain to girls that I'm not interested in "being friends" or whatever. Let's cut to the chase.

3. I will never pay a dime up front. Cash upon meet only. I don't buy their stupid snapchat videos or whatever either; their open pussy on my iPhone screen is of no use to me. What, I'm going to fuck my iPhone? I think not.

4. I discuss business only. What's your rate, what's your schedule like, etc. I make it clear that I'm looking for a reliable fuck toy, that I like regulars, and that I understand value. Very straightforward and direct.

Not all girls appreciate it, but many do. As I often say, if you make it easy for them, they'll make it easy for you.

And never, ever spend one dime beyond the actual fuck transaction. Don't bring them their cigs, or a drink, or lunch; what are you, Instacart? Instacart doesn't have a dick, and they know it. If they break down on the way to the meet (why do both hoes and strippers have the shittiest cars possible? Fuck them; they should have had a Triple A membership (I've been a plus member since 1990; good service). Seriously, who has a job which involves driving to fuck knows where and dosn't have a road assistance plan?

Track your conversion rate (ie. What fraction of initial contacts wind up with your dick in their mouth) so you can work on it; this is a skill.

To paraphrase the dude in Glengarry Glen Ross: "PUSSY IS FOR CLOSERS ONLY!

O.

Man I like the way you think.

**DArrow404** · 09-10-18 22:16

Originally Posted by Drizzle99 [View Original Post]

Google voice numbers bro, so far the ones I have ran into with them have been fakes, scams.

Yeah, one of them told me it was a GV number. Here she is. Does anyone have any info / experience with her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/e47d9...1-60354797728f

She's saying 400 ppm or 1200 monthly and wasn't able to negotiate it down at all. She sent me some pics confirming it's her. I don't know why her profile says curvy as she's slim. The 400 is definitely way too much and she can't host. The 1200 isn't bad as she said that would be 1-2 visits per week. Unless I found a unicorn, I don't think I'd ever do a monthly unless it was where she took all the risk (pay at end of month).

I really like her look and the little head keeps me wanting to go play. She does want to meet for lunch to see if we click. I'll probably wind up passing.

**Ozymandias** · 09-10-18 22:07

Originally Posted by Ripvan12 [View Original Post]

Let me be clear. There are plenty of gems still on the site, but the amount of time I have invested this go round weeding out flakes and scammers has been insane. By now most veterans know the rules to spot the spammers and old BP pros (talk of time limits, in town for only one night, send me money before meeting, can you cover my gas money, my mother is having a major surgery, blah blah).

But what are some other methods you guys are using to weed out the flakes and scammers?

For me. I have started to ignore females with only one picture on their profile! Sure I might be missing out on some goodies. But what woman you know is comfortable with just ONE pic of themselves. On a dating app with plenty of competition? My experience has been. Mostly. That these one-picture girls have one foot in and one foot out. Not really seeking anything quickly and prefer a lot of back and forth dialogue over 5-6 days.

Be safe. Ripper.

I think just being direct works best. There's certainly no reason to chat for week.

Obviously if you're looking for something more than a fuck toy, the following doesn't apply, but my basic rules are:

1. I make contact. If girls are contacting me, I ignore it. If they favorite me, I ignore it. That's all noise. I focus only on a girl who looks good (I might scan a profile at most), because I want to stick my dick in a hot girl. Period. That's all that matters.

2. I have no interest in having dinner or lunch or whatever. What am I going to discuss over lunch with some 19 year old hoe? What a loss of an hour. I explain to girls that I'm not interested in "being friends" or whatever. Let's cut to the chase.

3. I will never pay a dime up front. Cash upon meet only. I don't buy their stupid snapchat videos or whatever either; their open pussy on my iPhone screen is of no use to me. What, I'm going to fuck my iPhone? I think not.

4. I discuss business only. What's your rate, what's your schedule like, etc. I make it clear that I'm looking for a reliable fuck toy, that I like regulars, and that I understand value. Very straightforward and direct.

Not all girls appreciate it, but many do. As I often say, if you make it easy for them, they'll make it easy for you.

And never, ever spend one dime beyond the actual fuck transaction. Don't bring them their cigs, or a drink, or lunch; what are you, Instacart? Instacart doesn't have a dick, and they know it. If they break down on the way to the meet (why do both hoes and strippers have the shittiest cars possible? Fuck them; they should have had a Triple A membership (I've been a plus member since 1990; good service). Seriously, who has a job which involves driving to fuck knows where and dosn't have a road assistance plan?

Track your conversion rate (ie. What fraction of initial contacts wind up with your dick in their mouth) so you can work on it; this is a skill.

To paraphrase the dude in Glengarry Glen Ross: "PUSSY IS FOR CLOSERS ONLY!

O.

**DArrow404** · 09-10-18 22:03

Originally Posted by NGASugarMan [View Original Post]

I also noticed the Facebook lookup wasn't as helpful as in times past. I think either Facebook default locked down search settings better, or women are realizing they need to secure their Facebook profiles.

Facebook made a changes a few months ago that stopped searching by phone number email address.

**Ripvan12** · 09-10-18 15:08

Originally Posted by Leep12 [View Original Post]

Damn. 5-6 day dialogue would be a lot for me. I have found that meeting them ASAP after a day or so of messages. Lot of the flakes want to message a lot, that is a flag for me. Also, if they don't want to meet for coffee or dinner first is another flag, although a couple times these types have worked out if they are really needing to be discrete.

I don't think I would use one picture only as a screen and long as they send you a few more when you get off the site. I screen the Luxury lifestyle types with glamour looking buttered up pictures, the girl next door types look just as good especially with clothes off.

Just my experience.

Thanks for the note. What I meant by 5-6 day dialogue was that the convos weren't continuous in nature. I send something today. They respond 2 days later, then I respond and repeat song and dance. Just a lot of wasted time to finally uncover they aren't really serious.

**SoonerFan72** · 09-10-18 14:49

Originally Posted by Leep12 [View Original Post]

Damn. 5-6 day dialogue would be a lot for me. I have found that meeting them ASAP after a day or so of messages. Lot of the flakes want to message a lot, that is a flag for me. Also, if they don't want to meet for coffee or dinner first is another flag, although a couple times these types have worked out if they are really needing to be discrete.

I don't think I would use one picture only as a screen and long as they send you a few more when you get off the site. I screen the Luxury lifestyle types with glamour looking buttered up pictures, the girl next door types look just as good especially with clothes off.

Just my experience.

I generally get to the meat of the conversation rather quickly. Ill do small talk for a bit, and ask if they don't mind switching to text message. Then ill ask something if they have been in arrangements before, and what kind of arrangement are they looking for. They will almost always come back asking what kind of arrangement to I want? I say something like friends plus benefits. That will usually be enough to tell if they are serious, or just wasting time.

**Leep12** · 09-10-18 13:58

Originally Posted by Ripvan12 [View Original Post]

Let me be clear. There are plenty of gems still on the site, but the amount of time I have invested this go round weeding out flakes and scammers has been insane. That these one-picture girls have one foot in and one foot out. Not really seeking anything quickly and prefer a lot of back and forth dialogue over 5-6 days.

Be safe. Ripper.

Damn. 5-6 day dialogue would be a lot for me. I have found that meeting them ASAP after a day or so of messages. Lot of the flakes want to message a lot, that is a flag for me. Also, if they don't want to meet for coffee or dinner first is another flag, although a couple times these types have worked out if they are really needing to be discrete.

I don't think I would use one picture only as a screen and long as they send you a few more when you get off the site. I screen the Luxury lifestyle types with glamour looking buttered up pictures, the girl next door types look just as good especially with clothes off.

Just my experience.

**BrownSugaTwo** · 09-10-18 10:21

There's an "old pro" feel to her discourse:

https://www.seeking.com/member/3f3d4...c-886ed4eb6771

**Ripvan12** · 09-10-18 10:10

Let me be clear. There are plenty of gems still on the site, but the amount of time I have invested this go round weeding out flakes and scammers has been insane. By now most veterans know the rules to spot the spammers and old BP pros (talk of time limits, in town for only one night, send me money before meeting, can you cover my gas money, my mother is having a major surgery, blah blah).

But what are some other methods you guys are using to weed out the flakes and scammers?

For me. I have started to ignore females with only one picture on their profile! Sure I might be missing out on some goodies. But what woman you know is comfortable with just ONE pic of themselves. On a dating app with plenty of competition? My experience has been. Mostly. That these one-picture girls have one foot in and one foot out. Not really seeking anything quickly and prefer a lot of back and forth dialogue over 5-6 days.

Be safe. Ripper.

**Member #5910** · 09-10-18 08:57

Originally Posted by AtlantaJohn [View Original Post]

What is her Seeking name?

No profile.

I'll share her number if you want. DM me.

**Atlanta John** · 09-10-18 05:51

Originally Posted by Drizzle99 [View Original Post]

I have seen katie a few times. Without a doubt, the best experience my money has bought. Completely GFE, she LOVES kissing, nibbling on the neck, gives top notch head, and has an ass to die for. I have been around for a while, have had some fun in the hobby, but holy fuck. She has been super fresh both times I've seen here, no rush at all, think both meetings were about 2 hr30, first time we met she told me bare oral, covered sex on the phone, we got to a hotel, kissed and played for a few minutes then I couldn't help it and had to taste. Only second working girl I've ever went for a taste of, after the infamous jessica kennesaw. She went wild as I licked it, few minutes later I was pounding away. I got 3 rounds in both times, she swallowed a few, few on her face, few on her ass. Did I mention how perfect that ass is? She is mixed, has some really sexy eyes that are to die for while she is maintaining eye contact. She is open to directions, if I say lick the balls, she does, when I ask to ride she will do whatever you say. She even mentioned availability of greek, which I may partake in next time. She doesn't host, and has a limited schedule. I wasnt sure if I wanted to post my newly aquired diamond but godawgs asked me to give him some backup. He is being honest, find a way to meet this one before its too late. Pick up in lawrenceville area, price was 200 first time, 300 second time. Appearance 10, performance 10, attitude 10, guys no hyberpole it was that amazing both times. I have lots of videos to prove it if any one wants.

What is her Seeking name?

**BuckHeadBarry** · 09-09-18 23:32

Originally Posted by DesiLover28 [View Original Post]

So I have been talking to this 1 female on SA and everything seemed cool before she wanted to hang out and told me that she needs a connection before she let anybody do anything sexual with her. So I said she probably wants to meet me one time but then she says by connection she means she needs money before we even hook up even for a cup of coffee. And here we go again one of those girls who could be very well be a catfish could be a guy sitting on the other end wouldn't even give me her phone number or anything so I just said thank you very much and try somebody who is very new to this game and can be fooled by this crap so here's her info just be careful make sure you don't give her anything before she actually meet in person.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9624f...2-305806083076

The chic literally tried to pull the same scam on me.

**DesiLover28** · 09-09-18 20:58

So I have been talking to this 1 female on SA and everything seemed cool before she wanted to hang out and told me that she needs a connection before she let anybody do anything sexual with her. So I said she probably wants to meet me one time but then she says by connection she means she needs money before we even hook up even for a cup of coffee. And here we go again one of those girls who could be very well be a catfish could be a guy sitting on the other end wouldn't even give me her phone number or anything so I just said thank you very much and try somebody who is very new to this game and can be fooled by this crap so here's her info just be careful make sure you don't give her anything before she actually meet in person.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9624f...2-305806083076