Massage Parlor Reports

[Phoenix06]

So I visited my favorite spot and Angel to find she is in such hi demand that no time was available until 3 hrs in the future; which unfortunately for me was not an option.

Popped around the corner to the Pinetree Spa. Met by a 50 ish tiny and not too well worn women. Asked if she was the only one and she called to the back for her friend who was 40 ish but still not to my liking so I left.

On to Garden Spa a couple of doors down.

Met by another 50 ish who brought out a 35-45 lady. Pleasing enough but not an Angel. Decided WTF I'm here.

TS was decent with all the right attention to all the right spots.

Her name I think was Cindy but not 1000% sure on that.

5'3" from Korea probably 110 lbs not a spinner B+ C- not a bad bod but again no Angel.

Massage is decent 10 min into it she has everything off. I'm still face down.

Some DATY and she give BBBJ followed by P2 P. No full service and she doesn't want FIV.

All in all not a bad experience. Won't repeat, but she had a good attitude.

Just no chemistry for me.

Usually takes 3-4 visits to get that far so it was a nice surprise.

Sad that I now have to call ahead for Coco, she is still the No 1 go to.

Be Safe.

P6.

[Pbarber307]

Happy Monday, folks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWW4ZJYNahY

PB.

[OldManInVa]

No offense but didn't find that site particularly helpful. It's basically a bunch of anonymous posters with opinions all over the map. One poster said they tipped $1 per minute for a massage, which is extremely high.

I found this site to be short, sweet and to the point:

http://emilypost.com/advice/general-tipping-guide/

Last time I went to the spa at my Vegas hotel, I wanted to make sure my tipping was in line with standards. The woman working the counter said they see a wide variance, typically 15%, up to 25% for some of the more generous customers. Many of these positions are paid based on the expectation that the provider will be tipped based on standards for the industry. You should never feel obligated to tip if the service provided was terrible.

[JmSuttr]

Agree. Here is a site that talks all about it: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/290794.page.

No offense but didn't find that site particularly helpful. It's basically a bunch of anonymous posters with opinions all over the map. One poster said they tipped $1 per minute for a massage, which is extremely high.

I found this site to be short, sweet and to the point:

http://emilypost.com/advice/general-tipping-guide/

[MrSunnyHills]

Of course you should tip a legitimate masseuse. Don't you tip your barber?

Agree. Here is a site that talks all about it: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/290794.page.

[TheBarbarian]

Jm,

I don't think there's anything wrong with doing a little reconnaissance on if a place is legit or not. Prior to my post, I didn't find any info on FF, so I checked the place. That's WTF I was doing. So, this was not an issue of failing to use the forum effectively to find spots that offer what I was looking for, rather than me trying to find a new spot that probably hadn't been discover yet and / or mentioned.

Now, is it my lack of tipping that disgusts you? Tough tit! I'm not concerned with rationalizing or justifying any decision I make in this case.

And because my choice not tip, doesn't concern the market of AMPs, escorts, or the hobby in general and a whole. Why are we discussing my personal etiquette.

Now, if you want to go ahead and say I'm a dirtbag customer (which I may be in this case), fine be my guest, I just came here to receive and report back to the community.

Ok, if you only tip for extras then WTF are you doing walking into a spa where you have no idea if extras are even available? To go back to my earlier example, if you're only willing to tip when a restaurant serves you steak then why would you walk into a place without knowing whether steak was actually available? It's not like there's a lack of info about HE joints, right? A quick search of the forum leads to multiple options in multiple locations.

So the plain fact is that you walked into a legit spa, received a 90 min legit massage, and then refused to leave any tip at all. Even accepting the massage was mediocre, you could (and should) have left something, if not 20%. To leave nothing at all is, from any angle I can see, the mark of a deadbeat customer. You can try to justify and rationalize anyway you want but the truth of the matter is you refused to tip after receiving a service for which gratuities are customarily expected and paid. And any misunderstanding about the extra level of service you expected to receive was 100% on you.

[Member #5678]

FF is definitely legit. When did they start offering showers?

[NyHornet]

But Jm. Much respect to your seniority but I'm not tipping a legitimate masseuse, esp. For a mediocre massage. I tip for extras. I paid for what I got which was listed on their site / ad.

Of course you should tip a legitimate masseuse. Don't you tip your barber?

[JmSuttr]

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[Member #5834]

May my way back to Angel's, confirmed Coco was there along with Linda, but drew Lisa. Good experience, but my first time with her, so I didn't expect too much.

Coco is very busy now. To be sure to see her, make an appointment.

Happy mongering.

Hunts.

[OldManInVa]

I dropped into Arlington Therapy this morning but Lotto was already with a customer. Coco (yes, I know.) was available, so I went ahead and saw her. She is probably also in her 50's, nice little body, decent size breasts (probably C cup). She gave a very attentive massage with lots of teasing. When it came time for the flip, she provided a similar menu to Lotto. More than a typical NOVA finish. She was open to lots of roaming and left me very happy. I would see either one of them again.

[TheBarbarian]

But Jm. Much respect to your seniority but I'm not tipping a legitimate masseuse, esp. For a mediocre massage. I tip for extras. I paid for what I got which was listed on their site / ad.

You just ended up at an establishment where, at least with that particular masseuse, extras aren't available. That happens all the time and, unless there are reports to the contrary, I always go to a new AMP expecting them to be legit. Then if something extra happens it's a pleasant surprise.

About all the checkboxes you listed, there's nothing I noticed that would be a clear indication one way or the other. Asian legit masseuses are often more relaxed about nudity and even if they take off or move the draping that's still not a sure sign of extras. And they massage so many men that when a guy gets hard they know how to work around it and generally ignore it. And even if they notice and talk about it (usually with a laugh or giggle) that moves the needle closer but still isn't a guarantee.

About the tip, if you left nothing at all then that's wrong, IMHO. She provided a 90 min massage and a shower and deserves at least 15%-20% or, if the massage was average, maybe 10%-15%. There was no sign saying "HE available here" when you walked in. It would be like walking into a burger joint and refusing to tip the waitress because steak wasn't on the menu. The waitress delivered a burger and you ate it, so she deserves a tip for the level of service she provided even if it wasn't what you were hoping to get.

[Kijimuna]

The place looked like a duck, and sorta quacked like one also.

I stumble on this place and figured I'd shoot my shot. This place resembled the AMP I've frequented in places other than NoVA. Now, no mama here, but a guy. No biggy. Once I crossed the doors I was committed, worse case scenario, I get a massage and that's it.

So, I head to the room, take off my clothes. It's apparent my masseuse, early 40's semi attractive is ok with me being in nude.

Check one.

Fast forward, start getting my massage and it's pretty average to below average, like most AMPs.

Check two.

Then, while massaging, I'm erect, junk all over the place and she never appears uncomfortable. In fact, continues to stretch and massage me in ways that reveal it.

Check three.

Halfway through, she asks if I would prefer the 90 min over the 60. Ok. Sure. Check three and a half.

Then before I know it. Massage is over and she asks me to get up to lead me to the shower. I'm thinking, this where it gets good. Not your typical shower but again, she's not shying away. Dries me off like a king, leads me back to the room. The end.

Super disappointed and confused.

1. Should I have made a move and been more aggressive.

2. Propositioned earlier.

3. Maybe I looked like LEO.

I don't know but that was that.

On the way out the door, she asked for a tip. LMAO. I told her for a tip, she needs to. She replied she doesn't do that. Then no tip. I'm out. The End.

Seniors, care to elaborate on this place, where I went wrong, etc.

Take Care.

That's the oldest trick in the book. "Accidentally" touch you and then ask if you would like to add more time. Then send you packing with nothing.

FF is fairly legit. They do let you finish yourself off, but don't assist.

[JmSuttr]

The place looked like a duck, and sorta quacked like one also.

I stumble on this place and figured I'd shoot my shot. This place resembled the AMP I've frequented in places other than NoVA. Now, no mama here, but a guy. No biggy. Once I crossed the doors I was committed, worse case scenario, I get a massage and that's it.

So, I head to the room, take off my clothes. It's apparent my masseuse, early 40's semi attractive is ok with me being in nude.

Check one.

Fast forward, start getting my massage and it's pretty average to below average, like most AMPs.

Check two.

Then, while massaging, I'm erect, junk all over the place and she never appears uncomfortable. In fact, continues to stretch and massage me in ways that reveal it.

Check three.

Halfway through, she asks if I would prefer the 90 min over the 60. Ok. Sure. Check three and a half.

Then before I know it. Massage is over and she asks me to get up to lead me to the shower. I'm thinking, this where it gets good. Not your typical shower but again, she's not shying away. Dries me off like a king, leads me back to the room. The end.

Super disappointed and confused.

1. Should I have made a move and been more aggressive.

2. Propositioned earlier.

3. Maybe I looked like LEO.

I don't know but that was that.

On the way out the door, she asked for a tip. LMAO. I told her for a tip, she needs to. She replied she doesn't do that. Then no tip. I'm out. The End.

Seniors, care to elaborate on this place, where I went wrong, etc.

Take Care.

You just ended up at an establishment where, at least with that particular masseuse, extras aren't available. That happens all the time and, unless there are reports to the contrary, I always go to a new AMP expecting them to be legit. Then if something extra happens it's a pleasant surprise.

About all the checkboxes you listed, there's nothing I noticed that would be a clear indication one way or the other. Asian legit masseuses are often more relaxed about nudity and even if they take off or move the draping that's still not a sure sign of extras. And they massage so many men that when a guy gets hard they know how to work around it and generally ignore it. And even if they notice and talk about it (usually with a laugh or giggle) that moves the needle closer but still isn't a guarantee.

About the tip, if you left nothing at all then that's wrong, IMHO. She provided a 90 min massage and a shower and deserves at least 15%-20% or, if the massage was average, maybe 10%-15%. There was no sign saying "HE available here" when you walked in. It would be like walking into a burger joint and refusing to tip the waitress because steak wasn't on the menu. The waitress delivered a burger and you ate it, so she deserves a tip for the level of service she provided even if it wasn't what you were hoping to get.

[WunderLast]

You've come to this country looking for work, don't know a soul, can't speak the language well, and have been working under the table at a local burger joint from 930 am to 1030 pm for two months straight. You cannot leave for lunch or to run errands because customers come all day and night; even when there is no business you are still confined to the premises. Your only outlet is whatever you can do on your phone. So you sit there staring at the screen until someone comes through the door. You deal with ugly customers, ugly food, and messy hands all day. When you go home each night, you have about an hour of down time before having to go to bed and repeat the same routine again, and again, ad infinitum. Don't forget you're sharing one room with one or two other employees. Today you're beleagured with work because the place is short staffed. By night time, you are exhausted, and cannot wait to go home. You powered down the friers and cleaned out the ice cream machine. Ten minutes before closing a random dude comes in and orders two large fries and a large chocolate shake. And he's going to stay past closing, plop down, and take his time eating his meal. Don't be that guy and expect a top notch dining experience.

Good point, everyone should try to avoid being that guy. Though I am new to the area I am not new to the game. Since it was after 8, I called (providing opportunity for them to say no) and was told to come on in. I arrived before 9 (the ad says they close at 10) and asked for 60 leaving plenty of time for breakdown / next day prep. IMHO, if you are going to ask for 60, arriving 70 or 75 min before closing is last customer.

Everyone has a bad day on occasion but if I reach out and am told to come in I expect, at min, a decent legit massage and a modicum of professionalism.