"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[JZLizard]

I hate the idea of spending $50 for a room that I only use for a couple of hours tops, but after something like that I'm reconsidering. I've had very good results from going to the girls place, I'm a pretty quiet understanding guy so they usually trust me relatively fast. I just need to gather better information on what I may be walking into, if I'd known any of this information up front I'd have done a room.

The thing is you can almost never avoid the risk, even if they convince you 100% that there is no risk and even if they truly believe that themselves.

I say this more from civy dating experience than SBs, but whenever you go to a female's place there is almost always the possibility of someone coming by that will ruin your date, whether it's a jilted ex-bf or whatever. Any hot girl has one or more of these out there -- they may not all be psycho or stalking the girl or dropping by randomly out of jealousy, and if you're not married there's of course much less to lose, but honestly to me $50 doesn't sound like a bad price to pay to eliminate all the possible things that could go wrong.

The situation you encountered was very close to the classic robbery scenario -- you go to girls place where the BF is secretly waiting to barge in and interrupt everything before it goes too far (but after you've paid), telling you to get lost and of course it's an inconvenient time to ask for a refund. I don't think that's what happened in your particular case but the mechanics of how it goes down is very similar. Just read the escort boards, it happens to some poor john somewhere every day.

I always have a hotel anyway when I'm playing with SBs, but if I wanted to regularly hook up with UTRs I might just get something like a van and pick them up for cheap car dates.

[MulchMan]

Oh yeh, tracfone was killing me on text till they made a text only card. I think on-line only, 1000 text for $10. Use a prepaid cc under fake name, easy and safe.

I created a Hushed phone account. For 29.95 a year you can get an 804 number, 1000 texts a year and 500 minutes talk time. Avoids the hassle of dealing with a second phone.

[Makethescoop]

I'm considering pulling the trigger on an AM membership. I'm buying the cheapest they offer that includes 100 "credits". How many credits does it take to send a message?? I'm joining to reply to one post in particular. Not really much else close to me.

[ReaperGuy]

Glad you got out of it safely. This is one reason I don't do UTRs (those are about the only ones who would ever invite you to their residence first). A true SB will want a meeting somewhere public first, at least for drinks or a meal or whatever. I don't like the idea of going to their place at all for this very reason (even if the husband or BF doesn't live 3 doors down, he could still come by at any time). I suspect the situation you encountered is the most common (he's too pissed at her to pay much attention to you), but who needs the aggravation of it leading to a potential 911 call or a deputy knocking on your door with a subpoena dragging you into court to testify after he beats the crap out of her or worse kills her? Not to mention the interrupted session and money lost.

Too much aggravation. Anyone who will agree to a price and invite you to her place on the first date is easy enough to take to a cheap motel on the first date without risk of offending her. Much better risk / reward setup.

I hate the idea of spending $50 for a room that I only use for a couple of hours tops, but after something like that I'm reconsidering. I've had very good results from going to the girls place, I'm a pretty quiet understanding guy so they usually trust me relatively fast. I just need to gather better information on what I may be walking into, if I'd known any of this information up front I'd have done a room.

[JZLizard]

So tonight I finally met up with a 19 yo latina spinner who agreed to my $100 donation. She was a little skeptical at first, but as we chatted over the past week she warmed up to me and realized I was legit and not an asshole like she's been running into apparently. Her situation is she has a young kid and the father / husband was out of the picture and she has her own place (more on this in a bit). So she was at her mom's, I get her to walk a good bit away and I scoop her up after some directional mishaps. We had already agreed to just go straight to her place, we had also already agreed to a date tomorrow so this was just a warm-up essentially. We get to her place, relax a bit, and then I hear the front door open. She gets very quiet, listens, then says "its just the renters for the other room". Apparently she sublet 2 of the 3 rooms in this apartment. Whatever, I listened and they were friendly chatting in spanish and doing their own thing for a bit then leave. I was a bit nervous at not knowing there were other people in the apartment as she hadn't told me, but the alarm in my head finally quieted down and I got back to it.

Now when I entered the apartment, I did the usual room sweep and I also locked the deadbolt on the front door (the only entrance to the apartment besides windows). Well, when the renters left they did not re-lock the door or use the deadbolt, and this almost got my ass killed. What latina chick failed to tell me was the husband lived THREEE FUCKING APARTMENTS DOWN and he apparently saw us ride up. So after the renters had left, we started doing our thing and I got a couple of orgasms out of her. We were just getting ready for some DT on me when I hear a bang on the front door. I think we've all heard that bang on the door at least once in our career, but usually it's a handler right? Well this was apparently a very pissed off husband, who promptly let himself in, got to the bedroom door and kicked it open when she wouldn't open it. I'll give it to the guy, if I walked in on a guy with my wife like that I'd probably be rather unfriendly. Fortunately my very stout Mexican friend was far more pissed off at her and told me "I should go" after exchanging words (all in Spanish, which I don't speak a word of) and a few slaps with her. I always leave my clothes and belongings in a very ordered setup for a quick evac and that once again saved my butt as I was completely dressed except for shoes by the time Hernando broke the door in half. I had gathered my belongings waiting for a way out and I took it when he offered it. Real nice of him, as soon as I heard that front door open I had already braced myself for a fight and I was relieved to get out without a scratch as that would have been very difficult to explain.

I was out the $. 2 I had already deposited in the girl's pocketbook without her noticing (I left her $20 extra for some minor expenses) and a set of blueballs, but intact. Disappointed I didn't to sample that extremely tight pussy with anything except my tongue and fingers, but it could have been worse.

Glad you got out of it safely. This is one reason I don't do UTRs (those are about the only ones who would ever invite you to their residence first). A true SB will want a meeting somewhere public first, at least for drinks or a meal or whatever. I don't like the idea of going to their place at all for this very reason (even if the husband or BF doesn't live 3 doors down, he could still come by at any time). I suspect the situation you encountered is the most common (he's too pissed at her to pay much attention to you), but who needs the aggravation of it leading to a potential 911 call or a deputy knocking on your door with a subpoena dragging you into court to testify after he beats the crap out of her or worse kills her? Not to mention the interrupted session and money lost.

Too much aggravation. Anyone who will agree to a price and invite you to her place on the first date is easy enough to take to a cheap motel on the first date without risk of offending her. Much better risk / reward setup.

[ReaperGuy]

So tonight I finally met up with a 19 yo latina spinner who agreed to my $100 donation. She was a little skeptical at first, but as we chatted over the past week she warmed up to me and realized I was legit and not an asshole like she's been running into apparently. Her situation is she has a young kid and the father / husband was out of the picture and she has her own place (more on this in a bit). So she was at her mom's, I get her to walk a good bit away and I scoop her up after some directional mishaps. We had already agreed to just go straight to her place, we had also already agreed to a date tomorrow so this was just a warm-up essentially. We get to her place, relax a bit, and then I hear the front door open. She gets very quiet, listens, then says "its just the renters for the other room". Apparently she sublet 2 of the 3 rooms in this apartment. Whatever, I listened and they were friendly chatting in spanish and doing their own thing for a bit then leave. I was a bit nervous at not knowing there were other people in the apartment as she hadn't told me, but the alarm in my head finally quieted down and I got back to it.

Now when I entered the apartment, I did the usual room sweep and I also locked the deadbolt on the front door (the only entrance to the apartment besides windows). Well, when the renters left they did not re-lock the door or use the deadbolt, and this almost got my ass killed. What latina chick failed to tell me was the husband lived THREEE FUCKING APARTMENTS DOWN and he apparently saw us ride up. So after the renters had left, we started doing our thing and I got a couple of orgasms out of her. We were just getting ready for some DT on me when I hear a bang on the front door. I think we've all heard that bang on the door at least once in our career, but usually it's a handler right? Well this was apparently a very pissed off husband, who promptly let himself in, got to the bedroom door and kicked it open when she wouldn't open it. I'll give it to the guy, if I walked in on a guy with my wife like that I'd probably be rather unfriendly. Fortunately my very stout Mexican friend was far more pissed off at her and told me "I should go" after exchanging words (all in Spanish, which I don't speak a word of) and a few slaps with her. I always leave my clothes and belongings in a very ordered setup for a quick evac and that once again saved my butt as I was completely dressed except for shoes by the time Hernando broke the door in half. I had gathered my belongings waiting for a way out and I took it when he offered it. Real nice of him, as soon as I heard that front door open I had already braced myself for a fight and I was relieved to get out without a scratch as that would have been very difficult to explain.

I was out the $. 2 I had already deposited in the girl's pocketbook without her noticing (I left her $20 extra for some minor expenses) and a set of blueballs, but intact. Disappointed I didn't to sample that extremely tight pussy with anything except my tongue and fingers, but it could have been worse.

[IluvSmellyFish]

You may show up as a suggested friend, but it won't automatically show them your profile. If you've managed your privacy settings appropriately (everything should be set to "only me") then you'll be fine (assuming of course you didn't give you SB your real name, and you're not using a picture of yourself on your FB page. As opposed to your kid, your dog, a picture of a. Well, you get my point).

It's possible I'm wrong, but if you search for someone on facebook and then don't friend request them, then facebook will show this person to you under suggested friends. I don't believe it will show them your profile.

[TravelinSD]

A lot of the babies are on it and I've used it for a few of them. My only problem with it is that there isn't a laptop version. I'm a touch typist, so like using my laptop for texting, email, etc. Rather than my iPhone keyboard (yeah, I'm an older fart, LOL). But, if it works for the baby who am I to complain. Once she's comfy with me we move to regular text.

I do put my kik handle in my initial contact with the babies

Good hunting!

Travelin'.

I didn't see anything about this in my search here so I guess it hasn't come up. I like this phone app as an alternative to a burner phone that I would have to hide from the wife. So far three of my SB contacts ranging in age from 18 to 41 have it. No exchange of phone numbers needed and it shows when the message is read. Basically just an instant messenger that is the most popular one right now. In fact was on national news this week as a bad thing as pedophiles could use it to chat with underage girls. You can send pics with it as well.

[JZLizard]

I think the best browser to use for privacy is Firefox. I use it for my extracurricular activities. Its privacy settings are the best, and you can ask it to forget any website. Once it forgets, it forgets. It won't autofill in the name of any naughty website for you.

With the other browsers, you WILL forget to go private or incognito, and type in a naughty website in the browser bar. When you do that, you will have no other choice but to delete the browser from your hard drivev and reinstall it.

Not so with Firefox.

All of the browsers will let you set them to not remember cookies / autofill / history etc. Between sessions, it's just a matter of configuring it to do so. I assume with Firefox you're referring to setting it to always be in private mode? That's one option, although Firefox is a bit idiotic in the sense that it doesn't show you visual confirmation that you're in private mode.

IMO the best thing to do is to not share a computer with the SO, but if you must, the next best solution is to simply develop good habits of going into private mode when you want privacy of session. Once you extend an effort to just get in the habit of hitting ctrl-shift-p or ctrl-shift-and or whatever before you browse to the naughtiness, it will become second nature. If you do slip up you can clear it all out in any browser without needing to reinstall the browser.

Really if taking that one precaution is difficult, then much more serious mistakes are looming in the future for any married guy playing in the bowl or anywhere else for that matter.

[Bowtie]

Oh yeh, tracfone was killing me on text till they made a text only card. I think on-line only, 1000 text for $10. Use a prepaid cc under fake name, easy and safe.

A couple pre-pre-pots want to only converse via text. Are they going to chew through my burner minutes?

Hope to contribute meaningfully soon here

[First Half]

Get the Google Voice app. I'be been using it for years, and love it. No need for a burner phone.

Not free, but lets you send pics back and forth, have different numbers for different shit and has a passcode if you want.

[Member #5570]

A couple pre-pre-pots want to only converse via text. Are they going to chew through my burner minutes?

Hope to contribute meaningfully soon here

Get the Google Voice app. I'be been using it for years, and love it. No need for a burner phone.

[DogSun]

You should never search for SB's with your real FB account. Any search you do, will show up on the person you are searching for "friends you might know". If the SB scrolls through that. They just found your real info. Create a fake FB account before looking for anyone you don't want knowing you were looking for them.

It's possible I'm wrong, but if you search for someone on facebook and then don't friend request them, then facebook will show this person to you under suggested friends. I don't believe it will show them your profile.

[Steve Dupont]

Use the private (explorer) or incognito (chrome) function with your browser. That should automatically disable the types of things you don't want tracked on your brower to remain there.

Otherwise disabling features on the browser of your choice could lead your so to question things like, why do you keep deleting the history, or why do you keep disabling cookies, or why do you keep disabling autofill.

Also be sure to regularly delete your fb search history. Failing to do so will lead your SO to ask why you are stalking 19 year old on fb. Unless your a college professor or mentor, you may find it hard to explain your fb search history.

Lastly, do not tie your hotel room purchases to your gmail account. Some hotel reservation sites. E. g. hotels.com, will auto update your gmail calendar with the dates of your stay. If your SO has access to your private calendar, it may be difficult to explain why you're staying at a Hotel in the city you live, during the weekend you're out of town.

Just my two cents.

I think the best browser to use for privacy is Firefox. I use it for my extracurricular activities. Its privacy settings are the best, and you can ask it to forget any website. Once it forgets, it forgets. It won't autofill in the name of any naughty website for you.

With the other browsers, you WILL forget to go private or incognito, and type in a naughty website in the browser bar. When you do that, you will have no other choice but to delete the browser from your hard drivev and reinstall it.

Not so with Firefox.

[Telcova]

A couple pre-pre-pots want to only converse via text. Are they going to chew through my burner minutes?

Hope to contribute meaningfully soon here