"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**VaSD1** · 03-08-15 23:23

I realized today while doing my daily SA search that there are a fair number of profiles I have had the (mostly) good fortune to have already sampled their talents. It made me realize just how lucky I am to have discovered the sugar bowl and how much this forum has made the experience so delightful. I'm definitely addicted. Does anyone else ever peruse the sugar baby sites and see the ones you've already done?

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-08-15 22:31

Last last post. The girl from yesterday messaged me to say she was miffed that I didn't pay $ for the M&G. I guess she got confused. That would have been one expensive starbucks. At the end of todays M&G I forgot that I told the tiny dancer to txt me after her workout. And she did. But I am not breaking plans with my ATF to see her. Her big problem is scheduling. But I,ll get to her. The girl below that I been messaging all day says we can go straight to FC on the first date. Yeah. I found her IG and twitter. These girls should be more careful. But she looks to be a very normal shop girl that likes to drink a little too much on the weekend. But she is so ready. Just the way we like them.

heres a good one.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...ersation-inbox

"1000 per meet to start, we can work something out later."

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-08-15 19:24

This is my last post of the day unless I hookup with anyone but my ATF.

Another positive response to my steps messages.

"I have to admit that your honesty during this conversation has made me respect you as well as have an interest in meeting with you. When you explained your reasoning for not doing 200-300 dollar dates it really did make a lot of sense to me. I'm looking for a long term arrangement myself so I hope we do click & that it actually works out. "

Hope springs eternal. I just spoke to her on the phone and will again later tonite. She is so ready. She posted her profile about 4 or 5 months ago and says I will be the first guy she is comfortable enough with to meet.

21 light skinned mixed girl. White/Latina ? Didnt ask. A solid 8 from her pics.

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-08-15 18:10

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

Anybody have a favored brand for XX wide body models?

Astroglide with the purple top. Best all around. Get the CVS generic version for a third less. Same quality.

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-08-15 17:53

Today I went on M&G number two with the tiny dancer girl from a few weeks ago. The vibe I got after our first M&G was one of dis-interest. But she kept txting me over the last few weeks here and there.

Today we just sat out in the car for 20 minutes and got straight to the point. I gave her my famous line "that every relationship starts with a one night stand". And she agreed. The next date is straight to the FC to see if there is any real chemistry.

She is another 7/9 (my sweet spot). A pro hollywood dancer (not a stripper). A very down to earth 21 year old. She let me feel the merchandise a little (tight and toned from head to toe) but no kissing, just a peck or two. I always like to get a little something just to get an idea if we are gonna have any sparks. So no luck this time but i am optimistic.

**FredMoore** · 03-08-15 14:50

I always stick with natural edible oils -coconut, almond, grapeseed, and olive. They are organic, edible, and you can cook with them, especially when the vagina gets smokin'.

Circumcision -Damn! If pleasure from sex got any greater (if I weren't circumcised) I don't know if I could stand it! Basically the head of the penis slips and slides inside the foreskin so its like fucking yourself.

Condom solutions I read about:

A little scissor slit in the end allows the big dog to break through after a few heavy thrusts, allowing that oh so great BB feeling. I broke through naturally once with a crazy hot 9/9 18 yr old Baby, and the transition from covered to bare was amazing. Now if you truly want coverage don't do it. If the SB is on The Pill but wants to protect herself from clean as a whistle you it is a strategy.

Anybody have a favored brand for XX wide body models?

Another condom strategy is to lube up before putting the condom on. You will slip and slide around inside the condom which feels sort of like the vagina.

**ThisSoundsFun** · 03-08-15 13:33

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**PghGuy2005** · 03-08-15 12:58

Originally Posted by Dolato [View Original Post]

If the bleeding is more on the shaft due to the constant friction, then use lube. You can even use lube to ease the friction with the condom, but be careful it's not too much or it'll slip off. I always have water based lube with me. I don't need to constantly reapply with some girls, but it comes in handy and I use it generously. Just another expense to the hobby.

The bleeding / soreness is on the shaft due to the skin getting tangled with the hair & condom so circumcision will not be of any help. I was surprised to learn that removal of the foreskin meant loss of the most sensitive part of the penis leading to a reduction in the feeling of pleasure.

So what water based lube would you recommend? Something that allows oral after application but is not flavored -tasteless.

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-08-15 12:29

Originally Posted by PghGuy2005 [View Original Post]

What was the per date ca $h with the X? Were there significant overheads?

Just want to see a pic of an SB who has been dated by an SD on a budget.

Just look at any of my posts in the last year. Except for the stripper they were all at budget rates.

**PghGuy2005** · 03-08-15 11:01

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

My X (and only my second SB) is the one in red. The other is 5'9" about 165? and can lift some serious weight. I usually date waify girls but do try something different from time to time. Part of the reason I broke up with the X was her size. But for a booty call, that could be another story.

What was the per date ca $h with the X? Were there significant overheads?

Just want to see a pic of an SB who has been dated by an SD on a budget.

**IluvSmellyFish** · 03-08-15 01:40

As with all things in life, there are two sides to every coin. The backup rotation is nice. The upside. Hot young 20 somethings who get wet for an older guy, and who let me have their way with them. Why not keep them in rotation, right?

The downside. I don't have the time and don't want to spend the funds to keep both my current SBs in rotation, if I add these two pots. My current top SB is at the upper end of my per date allowance. I had been keeping the other SB around because of low maintenance requirements, but these two pots have even lower maintenance requirements. After you factor in hotel costs (even after considering that this cost is reduced now that I've been maximizing my hotel time by using one night for multiple FC trips), meals, etc. , keeping my current SBs in the line up, while also trying to keep them happy still hurts the budget. The financial aspect hurts, but the ability to find time to play is the real issue. Unlike a few months back where the SO was out of town almost every weekend and sometimes during the weekday, right now the SO is around and around very often.

Of course this all presumes that thing are going to work out, and that's never a guarantee. Just like I thought I was going to close the deal with my hot latina gymnast pot who had her own place and told me she only wanted $ for a per date allowance. After the M&G and after I thought we reached an understanding, I thought I hit the promise land. To date, I have not seen that pot since that first M&G, and she has gone dark.

At this point, I'm going to play it cool on all angles and see how things turn out. Worst case scenario. I sign up for SA again after having had a leave of absence. There are a bunch of new babies on SA over the fast week or so, that jumped into the scene. Would love to meet some of them and to see how they are in person.

GL and Happy Hunting to all.

**Dolato** · 03-08-15 00:55

Originally Posted by PghGuy2005 [View Original Post]

I was thinking of just going along with the flow and not force anything into it and at the end slip the $ into her handbag and hope for the best! Good idea?

That's how some on the site do it. Others won't move forward beyond the e-communications without agreeing to a set amount.

Some girls will bring up the dollar talk and will dictate how that goes. I'd say try both methods and see if any one method works best for you.

I personally brought up the amount in the initial messages.

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

So the question is, do the SD's on USA like some real muscle on their babes?

I wouldn't kick her out of bed. Seems like they're both in very good shape but not to the point where it seems masculine.

Besides, variety is part of the fun.

**Rouleur** · 03-08-15 00:45

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

I know everyone here wants to date the yoga, aerobics, or dance class teacher. What about a pro fitness competitor? Is that too over the top (especially a tall one)? I only just started the messaging with her today. It's been on my list but I have never partaken. I did have one body builder Sb in the past but she was only 5'5 and about 140 and not a pro athlete like this one. They are both 20 years old. The pro is a bit heavier than the pic as that was a competition shot. Also I have seen that most of these muscled babes like their male counterparts (which is not me at all).

My X (and only my second SB) is the one in red. The other is 5'9" about 165? and can lift some serious weight. I usually date waify girls but do try something different from time to time. Part of the reason I broke up with the X was her size. But for a booty call, that could be another story.

So the question is, do the SD's on USA like some real muscle on their babes?

I tend to not date SBs who can kick my ass in a clean fight.

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-07-15 22:20

I know everyone here wants to date the yoga, aerobics, or dance class teacher. What about a pro fitness competitor? Is that too over the top (especially a tall one)? I only just started the messaging with her today. It's been on my list but I have never partaken. I did have one body builder Sb in the past but she was only 5'5 and about 140 and not a pro athlete like this one. They are both 20 years old. The pro is a bit heavier than the pic as that was a competition shot. Also I have seen that most of these muscled babes like their male counterparts (which is not me at all).

My X (and only my second SB) is the one in red. The other is 5'9" about 165? and can lift some serious weight. I usually date waify girls but do try something different from time to time. Part of the reason I broke up with the X was her size. But for a booty call, that could be another story.

So the question is, do the SD's on USA like some real muscle on their babes?

**PghGuy2005** · 03-07-15 22:10

If the email exchange started without any mention of $ and the SB showed eagerness to be with me, should I just go ahead and meet her? And if the M&G is in a hotel room then it will very likely lead to FC in that case will it be a bad idea not to discuss $?

I was thinking of just going along with the flow and not force anything into it and at the end slip the $ into her handbag and hope for the best! Good idea?

Actually this worked with a couple of SBs without incident and I repeated with one of them granted one was big and the other (repeat) was on the older side. This was before I learnt of HWG 1-2-3 method.