"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[IluvSmellyFish]

No worries. Also, one last tip based on my experience, even if I trust an sb, I still won't book the hotel in advance.

There are too many variables. An sb might have a last minute thing come up, weather events that make it hard for them to drive, sick kid, the list goes on. Besides, hotels tend to be clustered in locations. If one hotel is booked or won't do early checkin, then just book another hotel last minute that is 10 minutes away.

Remember the pot / sb might like you, otherwise she wouldn't be showing up, but she is there for the sugar. A last minute switch in plans that might make her drive an extra 10 - 15 minutes is a minor inconvenience for her, but on the other hand, dropping $75 - $200 for a room that is going to be unused, hits your budget pretty badly.

That was very helpful info.

[IluvSmellyFish]

Agree with punter on this. There are about 10-20 new profiles every day within a 50 mile radius of the zip code I use to search. I can't imagine there anywhere close to that many guys enter the bowl every day. The more experienced brothers on the board have advised that it is a numbers game, and based on my limited experience, they are correct.

Besides, guys will get bored of an sb and move on. This creates constant churn. Long story short, you should be able to control the shots, so long as you either have enough game to close the deal, or enough funds. In either situation, you should maintain control. If a pot doesn't like it, then she can move on. But eventually her options will become limited.

You on the other hand, get to choose from the new crop of sbs that turn 18 every day.

Who is calling the shots here?

[PghGuy2005]

That was very helpful info.

Just Google Hotel app. Every major hotel booing site has an app from priceline, to expedia, to kayak.

Find the one you like the most in real life and use it.

I personally like priceline because the choose your own price feature. Some sites give you a free night for every ten that you book.

As for early check in, I just call ahead. Don't tell the hotel you are using a third party site. Just ask if early check in is available. I have yet to find any hotel that will guarantee early check in anytime other than right before you actually check in. Also late check out policies differ from hotel to hotel.

Finally if you travel a lot for work, then you should have points you can use, or at least be a gold or diamond or premier member of at least one or two chains. If you are, the hotel will be more accomodating with early check. Ins, late check out and room upgrades and perks.

And one final tip, if you don't have 100 % control of the finances and have an SO, than you may need to consider putting considerable sums of money on one of those Walmart visa credit card that can be reloaded.

[IluvSmellyFish]

Just Google Hotel app. Every major hotel booing site has an app from priceline, to expedia, to kayak.

Find the one you like the most in real life and use it.

I personally like priceline because the choose your own price feature. Some sites give you a free night for every ten that you book.

As for early check in, I just call ahead. Don't tell the hotel you are using a third party site. Just ask if early check in is available. I have yet to find any hotel that will guarantee early check in anytime other than right before you actually check in. Also late check out policies differ from hotel to hotel.

Finally if you travel a lot for work, then you should have points you can use, or at least be a gold or diamond or premier member of at least one or two chains. If you are, the hotel will be more accomodating with early check. Ins, late check out and room upgrades and perks.

And one final tip, if you don't have 100 % control of the finances and have an SO, than you may need to consider putting considerable sums of money on one of those Walmart visa credit card that can be reloaded.

Know of "Hotel Tonight" app. Any other apps / web sites for getting a room for the night?

Also how do I indicate early checkin needed during the booking assuming it is possible.

[PghGuy2005]

Know of "Hotel Tonight" app. Any other apps / web sites for getting a room for the night?

Also how do I indicate early checkin needed during the booking assuming it is possible.

[Mike7794]

I want keep to my SD-SB activities completely separate from my real life. Are SBs generally OK with not knowing who you really are?

I am willing to share my life details with an SB without revealing any personally identifying info. However will she create a scene? Accusing me of not trusting her etc.

I ask because in reply to my first message to her an SB said that she is not interested in a guy who cannot trust her. My profile only states that discretion is important!

I look at this site as if it is a business deal not a girlfriend. If I wanted a girlfriend I'd go to a dating site. One could say we are closing girlfriends on this site, but without the drama. IMO they don't deserve to know my personal life. If they cannot handle it, then no deal with me.

[Underloved Guy]

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[IluvSmellyFish]

After what happened with sb2, I am going to take jeezlizards advice and err on the side of caution. I haven't taken any pictures of the sbs I've been with and so would have to pull their pics from the site itself. After sb 2 threatented to post my pics publicaly (I don't have any up on the site but routinely email them to pots).

I am going to err on the side of caution here using Jeezlizards wisdom. Moving forward my posts will slighly change the description of each sb. And so even if I blurred their face, an sb would probably know immediately if I posted a pic from their profile even if the face was blurred.

I have no desire to have a pissed off sb post my pics publically on a website since my employer and my SO would almost certainly dissapprove. Burned once twice shy I guess. Besides because of my situation, posting pics of those I get to the FC is probably not the smartest move for me.

As for a quick interim update for the weekend. Of the three FC trips, two came through. The Friday FC trip was an afternoon lunch time special and the FC trip yesterday was a full on overnighter, and morning after session. The FC trip I had planned for Sunday afternoon with the gymnist got cancelled. Apparently she had to go home to deal with family issues. I thought it was TGTBT, but because she is hot, can host and is asking for such a small allowance per date, I will keep chasing this unicorn.

Of the three m&gs that were scheduled for this weekend, Friday night cancelled because of the weather, Sat morning cancelled because of all reasons, she claimed her dog was sick, but the Saturday afternoon m&g came through. She is young, and looks like she can be easily molded. Face is a 6 body is a 7. No plans for the fc yet, but I am interested in seeing where this goes. I complimented her on her shoes and her bag. According to her, they. Were extremely expensive because she paid almost $100 for both of them.

If that's her idea of expensive she will be thrilled with the allowance I am planning on giving her if she ever makes it to the FC with me. Time will tell.

More details in the end of month report.

Hi. Graham and Fish. Maybe you have a few pics of some of the below mentioned conquests to post? Faces can be obscured.

[HollywoodGuy]

Who is calling the shots here?

You call them and she pours them. Fair and Balanced.

[ThePunter7216]

I want keep to my SD-SB activities completely separate from my real life. Are SBs generally OK with not knowing who you really are?

I am willing to share my life details with an SB without revealing any personally identifying info. However will she create a scene? Accusing me of not trusting her etc.

I ask because in reply to my first message to her an SB said that she is not interested in a guy who cannot trust her. My profile only states that discretion is important!

Who is calling the shots here?

Your questions seem to indicate that you are rather unsure of yourself and how to respond to the SBs. Like any form of dating, confidence is important to a successful outcome with SBs. I would think less about what you "should" be doing and instead just get out there and talk to people and be upfront about what you want and how you feel. If you are not comfortable sharing any particular info about yourself, then don't share it! And if a POT has a problem with that, kick her to the curb! If you want to have relationships where you have to figure out which of the woman's request you need to follow then just go on a normal dating site because there is nothing unique about that.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hi. Graham and Fish. Maybe you have a few pics of some of the below mentioned conquests to post? Faces can be obscured.

[Graham111]

I have a made up life that is close to my life but not. My middle name is now my first name, my last name is close enough, my job is one I had about 10 years ago and know very well, my personal life is close but I never discuss the wife or kids. I have a facebook page for my new name and even a few friends on it. Amazing how some woman will just accept friends and than others are ex sb. So far so good. BTW. I am on SB 22 and 23. 6 were long term and two along the way wanted me to leave my wife.

Next week I quit. My job in a far away city is ending and I am going home. Where it is too risky. Plan for next week is SB 22 and SB 23, followed by new SB24 and SB25! Then celibacy. Good luck guys!

I want keep to my SD-SB activities completely separate from my real life. Are SBs generally OK with not knowing who you really are?

I am willing to share my life details with an SB without revealing any personally identifying info. However will she create a scene? Accusing me of not trusting her etc.

I ask because in reply to my first message to her an SB said that she is not interested in a guy who cannot trust her. My profile only states that discretion is important!

[IluvSmellyFish]

I am just glad you do not play in my area. Otherwise my nights would probably be spent with my SO.

I will report more in my end of Jan. Update (but not too many specifics. I am learning from the more experienced brothers on this board), - I am quickly rebuilding my rotation.

With school back in full swing, I have had multiple m&gs with various pots. In order to keep down costs, I have been planning my FC trips with m&gs. Had an afternoon FC session during my lunch break with a pot I met earlier this week. Planned to meet a pot for drinks at a local bar near my office in the evening, but the crappy east coast weather killed those plans.

Hung out at the bar at night hoping to meet someone in the "wild" but the bar was filled with mostly men or women with men.

Have a second m&g scheduled for late this morning. Asked for a late checkout in case that turns into a trip to the FC. A third m&g is scheduked for mid afternoon. I have a FC trip scheduled for this evening with someone I met last weekend during lunch. If my mid afternoon m&g turns into a trip to the FC, I will have options, but may be cutting it close.

Tomorrow I have an FC trip scheduled with a young college coed. She is very promising because she is a hot and young, can host, and her requested allowance is $150 a visit (with the understanding that I would also cover date costs and gifts). She is also a gymist. According to her she went on mutiple m&gs but decided that we would be a good fit based on our chemistry. If she is as good in bed as I am hoping, then I think I can end my season and coast for the next few months.

Good luck to all the players in the bowl.

Is this real life? Sometimes I have to ask myself this very question while playing in the bowl. What a crazy night / morning!

I've been talking to this pretty hot 22 year old recent college grad for the past couple of weeks over text. Her profile was brand new and she said she never had an arrangement before, however she did met 2 guys for M&G from the site but said there was no connection. We met for drinks and appetizers at one bar and then we venue changed to another bar right across the street for more drinks. We really hit it off with fun, flirty conversation. Since I traveled about 30 minutes to visit her and it was getting somewhat late I suggested that I was probably going to just book a hotel room for the night and invited her back with me. She happily agreed and followed me back The sex was great. Multiple positions, 2 orgasms each for both of us. She ended up leaving late into the night. We never discussed what the arrangement would look like. However I definitely want to see her again so I think we'll need to figure something out.

My hotel stay gets a little wilder from there.

I grab some breakfast from the hotel in the morning. As I'm waiting for the elevator to go back up into the room I start talking to this girl who is also waiting. She was probably about a 5 or 6 in the looks department. She's freaking out a bit because she said she was staying in the room with her friend and woke up this morning and the friend had left and she wasn't answering her phone and she didn't have a ride. She said she was fiending for some cigarettes. Sensing that this girl may be a UTR / Nando 1 type I offer to give her a ride to get some smokes. We hop into the car and start talking. She immediatley starts giving me her sob story and I suggest that she should think about having a Sugar Daddy. She tells me she used to have one. It was game over from there. We get back to the hotel room and I invite myself back to her room. She ends up admitting that her and her friend were staying in the hotel because the posted an escort add online. We start to talking about sex and I challenge her to try and get me hard. Next thing I know she's giving me a sloppy BJ and I'm painting her face with my man juice! I left her $11 because I kinda felt bad for her.

I'm on a roll lately. Might need to slow down and pace myself so I don't burn out.

\ This definelty felt like a real date. I was into her, she was into me.

[LandonR]

Is this real life? Sometimes I have to ask myself this very question while playing in the bowl. What a crazy night / morning!

I've been talking to this pretty hot 22 year old recent college grad for the past couple of weeks over text. Her profile was brand new and she said she never had an arrangement before, however she did met 2 guys for M&G from the site but said there was no connection. We met for drinks and appetizers at one bar and then we venue changed to another bar right across the street for more drinks. We really hit it off with fun, flirty conversation. Since I traveled about 30 minutes to visit her and it was getting somewhat late I suggested that I was probably going to just book a hotel room for the night and invited her back with me. She happily agreed and followed me back The sex was great. Multiple positions, 2 orgasms each for both of us. She ended up leaving late into the night. We never discussed what the arrangement would look like. However I definitely want to see her again so I think we'll need to figure something out.

My hotel stay gets a little wilder from there.

I grab some breakfast from the hotel in the morning. As I'm waiting for the elevator to go back up into the room I start talking to this girl who is also waiting. She was probably about a 5 or 6 in the looks department. She's freaking out a bit because she said she was staying in the room with her friend and woke up this morning and the friend had left and she wasn't answering her phone and she didn't have a ride. She said she was fiending for some cigarettes. Sensing that this girl may be a UTR / Nando 1 type I offer to give her a ride to get some smokes. We hop into the car and start talking. She immediatley starts giving me her sob story and I suggest that she should think about having a Sugar Daddy. She tells me she used to have one. It was game over from there. We get back to the hotel room and I invite myself back to her room. She ends up admitting that her and her friend were staying in the hotel because the posted an escort add online. We start to talking about sex and I challenge her to try and get me hard. Next thing I know she's giving me a sloppy BJ and I'm painting her face with my man juice! I left her $11 because I kinda felt bad for her.

I'm on a roll lately. Might need to slow down and pace myself so I don't burn out.

\ This definelty felt like a real date. I was into her, she was into me.

[PghGuy2005]

I want keep to my SD-SB activities completely separate from my real life. Are SBs generally OK with not knowing who you really are?

I am willing to share my life details with an SB without revealing any personally identifying info. However will she create a scene? Accusing me of not trusting her etc.

I ask because in reply to my first message to her an SB said that she is not interested in a guy who cannot trust her. My profile only states that discretion is important!