"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**PghGuy2005** · 01-17-15 13:30

Originally Posted by PghGuy2005 [View Original Post]

This site grades apps on how well they protect the user's privacy. BTW is anyone using the SA app on their real smartphone?

SA seems to works identically with mobile and desktop browsers. This is adequate for me!

**PghGuy2005** · 01-17-15 13:17

Originally Posted by JeezLizard [View Original Post]

A burner smartphone isn't a bad idea if you are able to keep it physically hidden from the SO. If she tends to get into your phone or personal business it is probably the only viable option.

As far as the apps themselves grabbing information, if that's a concern choose iPhone over Android and be sure to never jailbreak the phone. Android is much more susceptible to malware. The apps in the apple app store are under much more rigorous scrutiny, Apple won't let them in if they dubiously try to tap into things like contacts and location. Google Play store is a free for all cluster fuck full of potential security problems.

This site grades apps on how well they protect the user's privacy. BTW is anyone using the SA app on their real smartphone?

**LandonR** · 01-17-15 12:34

Need some advice on how to handle this one. 21 year old pretty hot (7/8) potential. Her text messaging hasn't been great but acceptable. Asked her to meet this coming week and she just sent back a message saying she could bu that she "always brings my twin sister when we meet for safety. Meeting people online makes me nervous. We are incidental twins. Where would you like to meet and what would you like to do".

Thoughts?

**Dsprdo** · 01-17-15 02:35

I mentioned in my last post that I have been idle for a while and I'm gearing back up. I'm out of the country right now but I'll be home in about a week and so I have been working SA to build a pool of potential SB's to work through as soon as I'm home. After a week or two of emailing and texting, I've come up with 10 viable candidates that have all indicated interest in meeting as soon as I get home. Of the 10,4 are white, 4 are AA, 1 is mixed and 1 is Asian. The average is about 7 face and 8 body (all are petite). One of the white girls and one of the AA girls have already basically agreed to my price point, which is 120. Two of the other AA girls have made statements to the effect that they are looking for modest amount of sugar and are interested in "companionship" as much as financial support. I think they may both end up in the FC at my price or less. The remaining AA girl told me she's had one arrangement and he gave her 400 per week for two meetings, but then they ended up only seeing each other once a week, until he "moved". I will have to adjust her expectations or there will be no meet and greet. I haven't gotten into sugar discussions with the other white girls, but expect that will be tougher sledding. The cream of the crop is 23 and a 9/10. I suspect she can get 200 out of me if that will do the trick (at least once) as I have to have her body. I did a google image search of her SA page that took me straight to her facebook page and a bikini photo that killed me! The Asian girl is very personable, and her "desired lifestyle" on SA is minimal. I suspect she's an UTR girl but she's been fun to chat with, so we'll see where it goes.

My goal is to lock in two new girls who have the right mix of skills and chemistry, at my number, for the summer. If I can also identify one or two BC girls at the same time, so much the better. I suspect some of this crop will drop out before I get through the list or I'll find they have expectations beyond my range, but I feel like I've got a good start to my quest.

**JZLizard** · 01-17-15 02:04

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

SA is a much more active forum in my town, where SDFM is slim pickins. It depends on the area I believe.

The hot Girls can easily make $3 K / month by seeing 3 to 5 SDs. But not many do so from one benefactor. They can hook as SBs without ever having to get a pimp, make a webpage, or rent a hotel room. I see my SB 2 hours / week in one afternoon. She can make multiple dinners and service several guys with her spare time and still do homework, play on the hockey team, and go to church.

Female business logic is funny. I once met a stripper who was only a few days into her new craft. Even though she was new, yet said she would make over $150 k that year. I have no problem believing that amount for a top notch Vegas stripper, but this girl wasn't in Vegas and wasn't in that league. After talking to her I understood where she got her numbers. She had a couple of nights that were in the $400-500+ range. By her logic, she would be able to do that every night once she got the hang of the job. It didn't dawn on her that her most profitable nights were weekends only, or that she was getting more interest for being new at the club, or that with every passing day she grew a little older and worn and her value would decrease rapidly. She also didn't take into account her total sales didn't account for her club fee or what she would need to account for in taxes, even if she was a magical unicorn and landed $400-500 per night at that particular club.

It's the same with many SBs, they start out with stars in their eyes, disappointment will set in later. Some of those SBs will become full-on hookers, some of them will leave the scene. Some of them don't really come looking for a specific amount as much as a combination of (A) they don't like to work hard and they haven't needed to thus far in life because of their looks and (B) there is an innate female desire to know their "worth". They love to know how they compare to other women, its a game of "how much can I get for my vag". I think after a certain age they subconsciously realize they are no longer competitive with the young hotties, and this is why we see these MILF cougar types with completely unrealistic expectations -- they don't even really want sex anymore and they've mostly given up on reality, so it's become more like a game to see if they can boost their own ego by damaging a male ego somewhere.

**HollywoodGuy** · 01-16-15 23:43

Went to a so called "underground fetish party" hoping to see some amateur talent last night. Mostly just a lot of aging strippers. But I did see two hopefuls. The dark skinned 5 foot tall mixed asian girl was the hottest girl there (for me). After some alone time with her I decided not to ask if I could see her outside the party. She was a little too professional and lived way too far away.

The second, a fair skinned latina also petite and someone I had seen before at another party caught my eye. She did give me her number and it turned out she already had mine, that I had given her a year ago. She was very sweet and although she has done a couple videos she exuded girl next door charm. These things don't usually work out and normally stay very professional. Which isn't to say I might not have a good time. She lives close enough and she seemed genuinely sweet. I didn't send her my offer yet, but I'm hopeful. So yes, they are UTR at a minimum. And my interest is not on an SB level. I'm just a sucker for a hot non escort advertised girl.

I lost my UTR jamaican princess a few months ago and I would love to replace her. I found her through a CL ad I had posted. That had to end due to the overly professional nature of our encounters and her refusal to upgrade me to GFE.

**IluvSmellyFish** · 01-16-15 22:41

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

You always want to be the first if possible. Then you get to make the rules.

Wish it was December, GPS is rampant. More details in the end of month report.

**HollywoodGuy** · 01-16-15 18:01

Originally Posted by IluvSmellyFish [View Original Post]

On another note. Have a m&g set up with a new pot tonight. She says she is new to the site. I plan on popping her SA cherry.

Ilsf.

You always want to be the first if possible. Then you get to make the rules.

**IluvSmellyFish** · 01-16-15 17:03

Originally Posted by Rangerover411 [View Original Post]

Seems VCU is ranked high in more than basketball. It's made SA's list of Top 20 of schools for SBs.

http://wtvr.com/2015/01/15/vcu-sugar-baby-school/

On another note. Have a m&g set up with a new pot tonight. She says she is new to the site. I plan on popping her SA cherry.

Ilsf.

**FredMoore** · 01-16-15 16:34

SA is a much more active forum in my town, where SDFM is slim pickins. It depends on the area I believe.

The hot Girls can easily make $3 K / month by seeing 3 to 5 SDs. But not many do so from one benefactor. They can hook as SBs without ever having to get a pimp, make a webpage, or rent a hotel room. I see my SB 2 hours / week in one afternoon. She can make multiple dinners and service several guys with her spare time and still do homework, play on the hockey team, and go to church.

**HollywoodGuy** · 01-16-15 16:26

Originally Posted by Orbits [View Original Post]

Well, in a way, I understand why SA is using that (likely made up) number. They are advertising, recruiting more SBs, keeping their business running. It's not like they'd attract many SBs if they said "you'll probably be offered $40 to come to some creepy old man's hotel room!" or even "College Sugar Babies receive on average 100-300 a week".

If the number isn't completely made up, then it was most likely obtained via a study that used self-reporting. I can't think of any other way to get that info. Self-reporting would definitely bias it towards the high end. Virtually 100% of those lucky enough to actually get the crazy-high offers will want to brag about it. How many of those makeing 500-1000/ month will feel like bragging?

Thats why I use SD4M instead of SA. But I am considering giving SA a try.

**JZLizard** · 01-16-15 16:01

Originally Posted by Orbits [View Original Post]

Well, in a way, I understand why SA is using that (likely made up) number. They are advertising, recruiting more SBs, keeping their business running. It's not like they'd attract many SBs if they said "you'll probably be offered $40 to come to some creepy old man's hotel room!" or even "College Sugar Babies receive on average 100-300 a week".

If the number isn't completely made up, then it was most likely obtained via a study that used self-reporting. I can't think of any other way to get that info. Self-reporting would definitely bias it towards the high end. Virtually 100% of those lucky enough to actually get the crazy-high offers will want to brag about it. How many of those makeing 500-1000/ month will feel like bragging?

All fair points. I don't blame them for marketing tactics (which are usually designed by the same people who run the surveys to collect data, perhaps a conflict of interest if anyone really cares about accuracy), but I doubt their study is any more than asking the girls to fill out a form with how much they make, which is guaranteed to be biased toward the high-end. It's sort of a contradiction though for them to say they have 8 SBs for every one SD (sounds like they need more SDs to me, since that's who they make their revenue from). So from that perspective it's kind of a stupid strategy, but you're right if they don't attract SB's they can't keep SD's for very long.

Though my point remains, if girls hear that as an average, 90% of them are coming in with the attitude of "well I'm a lot better than average", so they will start out looking at $3 k a month as a low-end minimum, without realizing that those who make that are probably sucking off at least 3-5 separate SDs once or twice per week.

Ah well, I guess they will figure it out eventually if they want to pay the bills.

**Orbits** · 01-16-15 15:51

Originally Posted by JeezLizard [View Original Post]

From the SA link mentioned on the site: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/s...aby-university.

"College Sugar Babies receive an average $3,000 per month allowances and gifts from Sugar Daddies".

No wonder so many of these girls have delusional expectations. Then again they don't say on average how many SDs they juggle on average to achieve that income level.

Well, in a way, I understand why SA is using that (likely made up) number. They are advertising, recruiting more SBs, keeping their business running. It's not like they'd attract many SBs if they said "you'll probably be offered $40 to come to some creepy old man's hotel room!" or even "College Sugar Babies receive on average 100-300 a week".

If the number isn't completely made up, then it was most likely obtained via a study that used self-reporting. I can't think of any other way to get that info. Self-reporting would definitely bias it towards the high end. Virtually 100% of those lucky enough to actually get the crazy-high offers will want to brag about it. How many of those makeing 500-1000/ month will feel like bragging?

**VaSD1** · 01-16-15 12:56

Originally Posted by PghGuy2005 [View Original Post]

When I tried to install it one of the permissions it needed was to use accounts on the device for identification purposes. Can I stay completely anonymous with this app? Cannot have it use my phone # since this is my real phone!

I had it on my Droid but took it off. The notifications default to On so when you get a message on SA it vibrates your phone (hard) and you get an icon in the corner like a text but with the SA logo. I figured out how to turn off notifications and the logo pop up went away (don't want anyone seeing the SA symbol on the face of my phone) but the vibrating still happened. Annoying.

**JZLizard** · 01-16-15 12:48

Originally Posted by Rangerover411 [View Original Post]

Seems VCU is ranked high in more than basketball. It's made SA's list of Top 20 of schools for SBs.

http://wtvr.com/2015/01/15/vcu-sugar-baby-school/

From the SA link mentioned on the site: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/s...aby-university.

"College Sugar Babies receive an average $3,000 per month allowances and gifts from Sugar Daddies".

No wonder so many of these girls have delusional expectations. Then again they don't say on average how many SDs they juggle on average to achieve that income level.