"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[RubberyMan]

, I have found that often if a young couple is in financial difficulties, and they have the choice of either an UTR sugar relationship, or going full hooker, they will start off at UTR. For some, that is enough.

The advantage is usually that they don't have many restrictions on what you can do, charge way less than professionals, are less likely to have an STI than the average sleep about single, and if they get pregnant, not my problem.

[DogSun]

Hey guys, I've been doing more and more of the SB thing. I've been hesitant to pay monthly fees and have been using SugarDaddyToday as a result. I'm thinking about signing up and wanted to see if the seniors on this forum had any recommendations. J.

Here's something I've used with some success. pof.com It's a free dating site, and you will find women on here that are interested in a sugar relationship. One thing you can do if you're not a paying member for SA, is to sign up for a free membership and look at the women that are active in your area. You'll find more than a few that are also on POF. Once you find them, proposition them on POF and they're usually at least receptive to some negotiating. It's takes more work this way, but if you're not willing to pay the monthly membership fee, it is an option.

[FeelGoodMd]

dc, md, va?

Right you are, HG.

[HollywoodGuy]

what is a dmv girl?

dc, md, va?

[FredMoore]

I have been talking to this girl for a few days and a little reserved as there are not many asian girls 6 ft and she is a little forward. Anyone know if this is going to be a crying game ending?

Also anyone have any advice on good DMV girls. I can share a good line on East Indian girl.

Even if she is a guy looking as good as she does I would take my chances.

What is a DMV girl?

RE: married SBs. Most can only play during the day while the Husband is at work, so it has not worked out for my schedule. I would worry about some psycho husband so prefer to stay away. In that scenario you have 2 potential investigators looking into your affair -your SO and her SO. He could bust you looking at her. This happened to me.

Working a GPS Asian 9/9/8 . Right now we have a date in the FC but she is looking for a bigger allowance. I offered 2 $ for a 1 to 2 hour stint weekly. SHe wants double that, and can probably get it from some rich daddy. Unless she changes her mind she will take my measly donation until a better deal comes along. Who knows? She might see that many Daddies are Butt licks and will take the sure thing. And once she experiences the magic wand she might forget about looking elsewhere. LOL. I haven't had a real spinner in a long time so I hope it works out.

[HollywoodGuy]

Just came home from date #2 with my new tomboy princess. This time I did spend 10 dollars at the 7/11. But once she starts hanging out at my place (starting tomorrow) then I will start spending some money on her. This is one of those taking off like a rocket arrangements. She is already in love and said in a playfully sarcastic way that I say all the right things. So I told her. I do say those things to other girls but with you I mean it. And for now I do. The instant honeymoon phase begins.

She really is a 7/10/10/10. The first order of business will be to make sure all the sugar goes towards hair, nails, make up, sexy outfits, food and cell phone bill. I doubt there will be much actual cash in hand transactions to start. And I will stick to my $ a day or less. This girl desperately wants what most of you run from. A real relationship.

But it's what I prefer. I been a little depressed since breaking up with the last one 4 months ago. But this one is making me forget about her fast. I can see her everyday if I want.

[Member #5570]

Any of you fine gents banged a married SB?

Too sticky of a situation?

[Traveling John #2]

I have been talking to this girl for a few days and a little reserved as there are not many asian girls 6 ft and she is a little forward. Anyone know if this is going to be a crying game ending?

Also anyone have any advice on good DMV girls. I can share a good line on East Indian girl.

[AliasSM]

Same girl accepted 1. 6 for a date on WYP a few weeks ago but I never followed through because I haven't been to RVA. Glad I didn't. Here's a couple of her pics for those of you not on SA.

I recognized the pics as the same girl I met off of SA about a month ago. She stood me up once and then sent a txt saying she wanted to try again (emergency came up). I decided to give her another chance. We agreed to $$ per.

Meeting but on the M&G I decided to try to get her straight to the FC. It looked promising for a while, but she backed out at the last minute (never did it on the first date. Sure). She got a decent meal from me and a. 5 gift because I thought she looked promising. When I tried to set up the next date, which she knew would be in the FC, she tried to upsell saying she never got intimate for less than $$ I told her I'd have to pass. I saw her Facebook page. She seems like a pretty normal girl, just trying to collect some cash without putting out.

Oh well as you experts say. NEXT!!

Alias.

[VaSD1]

I found this girl on WYP (will I ever learn?), though she is also on SA. For several days we went round and round about $'s, with her initially saying she wanted $3 k / month, and me telling her that I've never given a girl more than $$, and I wanted to meet once/week. She said that was unacceptable and "way less than I've ever taken" (though in a convo a few days earlier she told me she hasn't had many partners and her virtue is "precious to her"). I wished her the best and invited her to get back in touch if she ever reconsidered.

3 days later she reconsidered, saying she missed hearing from me and was willing to accept $$$ per visit if we met three times/month. She thought I'd go for it since "it's only $ more per month" than I originally suggested. I was insistent that $$ was my max, and we went round and round about that for a few more days. Finally she agreed to $$ and said she was reluctant because she'd "never gotten that little," but was in dire straits. She did warn me that she would have to really like me before she would accept that little, and wouldn't have sex on the first date. I guess she'd fuck anything if the price were right (I did NOT make this observation, of course).

Last night we had this text exchange:

GPS: So when will we have our first date?

Me: I'm free after 5 tomorrow.

G: I am too. Are we agreed on 200?

Me: If I have your company until 7:30 or 8.

G: I don't want to be intimate yet.

Me: Then I'll buy you dinner. I'll save the $$ until you are ready for more.

G: I thought that was what we discussed. I never accept so little. You insisted if given a chance your personality and such would make up for it, and after a fair amount of persuasion, I said I'd give it a try as long as we weren't intimate when we first began dating.

Me: And we'll get to know each other better over dinner. You get a free meal and pleasant company. Not a bad way to spend an evening.

G: Going on even just one of your paid dates without intercourse made up for the fact that you were offering way lower than I have ever accepted. It was the one reason I decided to accept this.

Me: I'm sorry you misunderstood my meaning. I hope you find what you're looking for, or that you'll get back in touch if you don't.

I contemplated going on a rant to her about why her expectations are so ridiculous, but it was late and I didn't have the energy (and I knew the only teacher she'll listen to is hard experience). Here is her SA profile so any of you here in RVA know what awaits if you contact her.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e60c06aa/view

Dr. Feelgood

Same girl accepted 1. 6 for a date on WYP a few weeks ago but I never followed through because I haven't been to RVA. Glad I didn't. Here's a couple of her pics for those of you not on SA.

[FredMoore]

Everybody has a price and many of our colleagues have discovered this. It seems that an increasing number of young girls are of the "no sex" persuasion. Perhaps this is a ploy to weed out the escort seekers but most will give it up for the right price. I am going to Georgia for a business trip and started canvassing local 18 to 30 yr olds there. Half the profiles said "no sex" . WTF?

Any RVA guys see SA # 2154436 ? Any intel?

[FeelGoodMd]

I found this girl on WYP (will I ever learn?), though she is also on SA. For several days we went round and round about $'s, with her initially saying she wanted $3 k / month, and me telling her that I've never given a girl more than $$, and I wanted to meet once/week. She said that was unacceptable and "way less than I've ever taken" (though in a convo a few days earlier she told me she hasn't had many partners and her virtue is "precious to her"). I wished her the best and invited her to get back in touch if she ever reconsidered.

3 days later she reconsidered, saying she missed hearing from me and was willing to accept $$$ per visit if we met three times/month. She thought I'd go for it since "it's only $ more per month" than I originally suggested. I was insistent that $$ was my max, and we went round and round about that for a few more days. Finally she agreed to $$ and said she was reluctant because she'd "never gotten that little," but was in dire straits. She did warn me that she would have to really like me before she would accept that little, and wouldn't have sex on the first date. I guess she'd fuck anything if the price were right (I did NOT make this observation, of course).

Last night we had this text exchange:

GPS: So when will we have our first date?

Me: I'm free after 5 tomorrow.

G: I am too. Are we agreed on 200?

Me: If I have your company until 7:30 or 8.

G: I don't want to be intimate yet.

Me: Then I'll buy you dinner. I'll save the $$ until you are ready for more.

G: I thought that was what we discussed. I never accept so little. You insisted if given a chance your personality and such would make up for it, and after a fair amount of persuasion, I said I'd give it a try as long as we weren't intimate when we first began dating.

Me: And we'll get to know each other better over dinner. You get a free meal and pleasant company. Not a bad way to spend an evening.

G: Going on even just one of your paid dates without intercourse made up for the fact that you were offering way lower than I have ever accepted. It was the one reason I decided to accept this.

Me: I'm sorry you misunderstood my meaning. I hope you find what you're looking for, or that you'll get back in touch if you don't.

I contemplated going on a rant to her about why her expectations are so ridiculous, but it was late and I didn't have the energy (and I knew the only teacher she'll listen to is hard experience). Here is her SA profile so any of you here in RVA know what awaits if you contact her.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e60c06aa/view

Dr. Feelgood

[HollywoodGuy]

I went out to see a girl whose profile was only up for one day (yesterday). She was very tall (like runway model tall) but she looked very slender in her pics and she sounded very sweet in her txts. I didn't even talk to her on the phone. She just sent me her address so I took the risk with very little screening and drove over there about 10 pm this evening.

Next thing I know, out walks this really cute girl with an amazing 5'10' spinner body. She gets in the car and she is all smiles. Within about 5 minutes she says "well arent you going to kiss me?"

The next thing I know we are totally on fire. Her pants are down, my pants are down. I am DP-ing her using both hands while she bounced and grinded and pushed my finger as far up her ass as it would go, she gives me like 45 minutes worth of oral while I'm fingering her as hard as possible from behind. She was going all the way down and staying there repeatedly. With me pushing her head down as hard as I wanted. The rougher I got the more she liked it.

We did everything but fuck as my car is too small for that. This is all in front of her parents house in a decent lower income area. This went on for at least 90 minutes or more untill I finally CIM.

We agreed to start dating immediately and repeatedly. This girl is an awesome kisser with a totally upbeat personality. 25 AA 5'10" and 125 lbs. She was an easy 8/10/10+/9 or probably a 10 once we fuck. Her pussy and ass were tight, wet and sweet smelling.

The cost of the M&G was nada, zilch, nothing. This is the third time this has happened to me in 2 weeks (meaning sex with no sugar). She kept calling me daddy and practically melted when I called her princess. She did agree to the $ offer going forward. I think she may be my new ATF. And a guaranteed NP first timer.

[VaSD1]

You have to go with the paid sites as a cost of hobbying.

Just like you have costs with hobby phone, condoms / lube or whatever else there may be, sd4 m or sa-whatever site works for you-is just another cost.

In the overall monthly budget, it's a small percentage.

I agree with Doloto. For instance, SA gives you the option of a single month membership. If you live in a reasonable size area you will most definitely find a few SBs that fit your interests and needs if you are willing to work at it.

[Dolato]

Hey guys, I've been doing more and more of the SB thing. I've been hesitant to pay monthly fees and have been using SugarDaddyToday as a result. I'm thinking about signing up and wanted to see if the seniors on this forum had any recommendations. J.

You have to go with the paid sites as a cost of hobbying.

Just like you have costs with hobby phone, condoms / lube or whatever else there may be, sd4 m or sa-whatever site works for you-is just another cost.

In the overall monthly budget, it's a small percentage.