"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**BamBam** · 09-16-14 12:07

Originally Posted by DandyDon [View Original Post]

Need to rant, and where else can I say this? No Where. But what is it with these ladies who after I completely explain I am married, that I cannot go to dinner with them in my home town or anywhere nearby and they say they understand the need for discretion, etc and then when we go to set up a date the want me to take them to a local dinner or bar? I am very upfront about where and when I am able or willing to meet and they say yes, yes, yes and then one conversation later say they won't meet unless it's at restaurant or coffee shop. Etc. Do they not understand we can meet in public in places other than eateries? I guess not.

I always propose coffee or lunch for a first meeting. A lot of my SB's find that disarming. For some reason, the women around here think Panera is the place to go. For me, Panera's are full of people but not too crowded. They have booths which gives a bit more privacy (versus Starbucks.) I always bring a briefcase and place a folder on the table when I arrive. The idea is that it looks like an interview or a business meeting. For the SB's it is a place they would like to go but usually cannot afford. It is safe, public but still discrete.

I agree with the poster who said asking them to meet in the hotel parking lot would just generate a lot of failed contacts. Anything that plays up the sex for money angle tends to be a big turn-off for most (but not all.).

RB.

**HollywoodGuy** · 09-16-14 11:38

Originally Posted by JeezLizard [View Original Post]

It's not due to romance on my part. Of all the true SBs I've ever hooked up with, not one of them would have returned my text message if I said meet me in the hotel parking lot. In the cities / states I've operated in, only a UTR girl would do that.

I do like to "go out" for a little nightlife when I am out of town, but that's more for my own benefit than theirs. I don't get to go bar hopping much these days, so being able to do so in a town where nobody knows me with a hot young girl on my arm is a lot of fun, it's kind of like a vacation for me. It's fun to watch guys half my age hit on them and get shot down, while they sit back and watch someone old enough to be their dad with their tongue down the hotties throat. However, drinks+restaurant food+hotel can get expensive so I don't recommend it for full time SDs.

In Hollywood things move a little faster. Starbucks is always a good choice.

**JZLizard** · 09-16-14 10:44

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

You guys are too romantic. Try the parking lot of the motel. Works like a charm. I can only think of one time it didn't lead to the FC within 15 minutes. And that was only due to a misunderstanding about my rates.

It's not due to romance on my part. Of all the true SBs I've ever hooked up with, not one of them would have returned my text message if I said meet me in the hotel parking lot. In the cities / states I've operated in, only a UTR girl would do that.

I do like to "go out" for a little nightlife when I am out of town, but that's more for my own benefit than theirs. I don't get to go bar hopping much these days, so being able to do so in a town where nobody knows me with a hot young girl on my arm is a lot of fun, it's kind of like a vacation for me. It's fun to watch guys half my age hit on them and get shot down, while they sit back and watch someone old enough to be their dad with their tongue down the hotties throat. However, drinks+restaurant food+hotel can get expensive so I don't recommend it for full time SDs.

**FredMoore** · 09-16-14 09:22

Originally Posted by DandyDon [View Original Post]

Need to rant, and where else can I say this? No Where. But what is it with these ladies who after I completely explain I am married, that I cannot go to dinner with them in my home town or anywhere nearby and they say they understand the need for discretion, etc and then when we go to set up a date the want me to take them to a local dinner or bar? I am very upfront about where and when I am able or willing to meet and they say yes, yes, yes and then one conversation later say they won't meet unless it's at restaurant or coffee shop. Etc. Do they not understand we can meet in public in places other than eateries? I guess not.

I have the same problem. Any other ideas? I like Hollywood's approach. JL is correct about acceptable meeting places but are not doable for local guys. I took a cute youngster to an upscale neighborhood eatery near her school against my better judgement. I spent $60 and was looking around the whole time wondering who knows who I am and will call the SO. It isn't worth it. To boot she wants to "court" before having sex. Next! Wasted $$ and took an unnecessary risk.

**HollywoodGuy** · 09-16-14 01:06

Originally Posted by DandyDon [View Original Post]

Need to rant, and where else can I say this? No Where. But what is it with these ladies who after I completely explain I am married, that I cannot go to dinner with them in my home town or anywhere nearby and they say they understand the need for discretion, etc and then when we go to set up a date the want me to take them to a local dinner or bar? I am very upfront about where and when I am able or willing to meet and they say yes, yes, yes and then one conversation later say they won't meet unless it's at restaurant or coffee shop. Etc. Do they not understand we can meet in public in places other than eateries? I guess not.

You guys are too romantic. Try the parking lot of the motel. Works like a charm. I can only think of one time it didn't lead to the FC within 15 minutes. And that was only due to a misunderstanding about my rates.

**JZLizard** · 09-16-14 00:35

Originally Posted by DandyDon [View Original Post]

Need to rant, and where else can I say this? No Where. But what is it with these ladies who after I completely explain I am married, that I cannot go to dinner with them in my home town or anywhere nearby and they say they understand the need for discretion, etc and then when we go to set up a date the want me to take them to a local dinner or bar? I am very upfront about where and when I am able or willing to meet and they say yes, yes, yes and then one conversation later say they won't meet unless it's at restaurant or coffee shop. Etc. Do they not understand we can meet in public in places other than eateries? I guess not.

It's that bars / restaurants etc. Are the norm for a meeting. If you say why don't we meet in the brake parts isle of Autozone it will seem awkward and make her uncomfortable. Restaurants / bars etc. Have a relaxed / social atmosphere.

What sort of alternate public place did you have in mind? Maybe there's something here I haven't thought of. You might try going to a restaurant 30-60 minutes away. Meeting SBs too close to home can lead to a lot of other problems -- if you're in a small enough pond that you can't find a safe restaurant, someone could spot you with her just about anywhere else as well.

**Dandy Don** · 09-15-14 22:55

Need to rant, and where else can I say this? No Where. But what is it with these ladies who after I completely explain I am married, that I cannot go to dinner with them in my home town or anywhere nearby and they say they understand the need for discretion, etc and then when we go to set up a date the want me to take them to a local dinner or bar? I am very upfront about where and when I am able or willing to meet and they say yes, yes, yes and then one conversation later say they won't meet unless it's at restaurant or coffee shop. Etc. Do they not understand we can meet in public in places other than eateries? I guess not.

**SlowMo** · 09-15-14 21:56

Blokes,

Just signed up for SA. Quickly stumble on this upbeat Boston girl. She was playful on email and fairly soon gave me her phone number for us to live chat a bit. She really stoke my ego, like a good SB should. Then she sent me a nice pic of her pre-run cleavage. So we setup a meeting one of those mornings. I get to her place and she welcomes me wearing a neglige showing massive cleavage and side boob. I'm thinking that it can't be that easy, and sure enough it wasn't. Turns out "slim" means different things to different people apparently. And her vocabulary would have been right at home at a truck stop. Plus the young lady has an extremely high opinion of herself. She needs her cocktails just so or she'll return them, etc. A princess really. She mentioned that her parents paid for everything until she was 26, so that explains a lot. The most I could pull off while I was there was a light foot rub. She flat out told me no sex on the first date. But she'd be happy to for $500 per week. I did manage to keep a straight face on, yet fairly soon departed. I let her know afterward that for $500 per week I could arrange a meeting with models who'd offer PSE, so I'll pass. Clearly this one hasn't flown on her own long enough. Folks in Boston, what is your experience of SB demands? Seems like college girls on the west coast can be satisfied with $100/ week. I doubt I can get that here, but any idea?

Thanks,

SM.

**UKnowWho** · 09-14-14 17:31

Originally Posted by JeezLizard [View Original Post]

you either have to tolerate getting mails you won't be able to read until you are a paying member again, or delete your account.

We should complain.

Yeah, that and girls who you're trying to keep on the back burner for the future seeing that you're logging in and therefore thinking you must be looking for someone new.

You should. I deleted my account, and wrote that in as the reason in the comment box they give you as part of the deletion process.

**Madaboutmax** · 09-14-14 15:12

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

SD's don't give out contact info on their SB's. On a SW thread some guys do. Try that.

On another note. Anyone ever notice there is a higher percentage of submissive bigger girls as opposed to smaller ones? Unless they are really small then the pendulum swings back.

I agree. This thread is for sharing techniques, not for sharing SB's. It kind of defeats the purpose.

I don't know about bigger submissive girls, since I only date slim / athletic girls. I have been amazed by the high number of younger submissive girls. I think "Shades of Grey" has encouraged more girls to explore this side of their sexuality. I have actually learned to be much more dominant as a result.

**Madaboutmax** · 09-14-14 15:07

I think Hollywood suggested something similar, but I decided to search all of the profiles that match my criteria near me. I messaged many of them that had been inactive for more than 6 months. Many had given up after not finding their ideal SD. Many had high "lifestyle budget" expectations. I asked if they were still looking and open to discussion on their budget. I was surprised by the number of responses I received by some very nice ladies. I think the best cure for GPS is time and lack of success.

Just a thought.

**JZLizard** · 09-14-14 15:04

Originally Posted by UKnowWho [View Original Post]

FYI, SA's recently changed it so unpaid accounts can no longer be hidden from search results.
I've had my profile hidden from search results for over a year now. A week or so ago I noticed I was getting emails saying I'd been viewed by women whose profiles I'd never viewed, so I wondered how they were finding mine to view me. I emailed SA support and they said they've changed it so unpaid accounts can no longer be hidden from search results.
I really think they should've sent out a notification about this change, as I used it to control who could see my profile and I imagine others do too. So, I just wanted to warn you all.

Yeah, I noticed this. Very lame, it basically means you can't just disable your account temporarily, you either have to tolerate getting mails you won't be able to read until you are a paying member again, or delete your account. I'm not sure how that works for the SB since they don't have to pay at all -- I assume they can still hide themselves from searches and reappear as needed.

We should complain.

**HollywoodGuy** · 09-14-14 14:51

Originally Posted by WillStarr [View Original Post]

Wow nips look amazing. Any contact info for her?

SD's don't give out contact info on their SB's. On a SW thread some guys do. Try that.

On another note. Anyone ever notice there is a higher percentage of submissive bigger girls as opposed to smaller ones? Unless they are really small then the pendulum swings back.

**UKnowWho** · 09-13-14 23:26

FYI, SA's recently changed it so unpaid accounts can no longer be hidden from search results.

I've had my profile hidden from search results for over a year now. A week or so ago I noticed I was getting emails saying I'd been viewed by women whose profiles I'd never viewed, so I wondered how they were finding mine to view me. I emailed SA support and they said they've changed it so unpaid accounts can no longer be hidden from search results.

I really think they should've sent out a notification about this change, as I used it to control who could see my profile and I imagine others do too. So, I just wanted to warn you all.

**WillStarr** · 09-13-14 21:03

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

I,ve seen her 5 times in 2 months due to major distance problems. Its like a 2 hour drive. Too bad as she is a 8/9/9/9. Very normal girl. Almost too normal for me. She is a little older (28) so not too quick to make a rash decision about who she hangs with. Not sure how you guys deal with that. All the txting in the world isn't the same as seeing someone. But I am staying the course if she does.

Wow nips look amazing. Any contact info for her?