"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Graham111]

Big Mistake.

Trouble all the way around. Move on.

[AsianFrosty]

Big Mistake.

Seconded. It puts you at an insane amount of liability.

[HollywoodGuy]

Need some advice on how to play this one brothers. Met with a mid 20's potential today. She's probably about a 7 or 8 with a nice body. Met at a local bar around lunch time. Talked for about 30 minutes over a drink and then I walked to her to her car. Deep kiss turned pretty passionate and next thing I know we are in my car and I'm getting road head. Not more than 2 minutes into it she says, "this is going to cost you. " and immediately my UTR radar starts going off. I don't think she is, but that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I stopped her then and told her we probably shouldn't continue doing that until we had something figured out. She agreed and we made tentative plans to meet in a couple of days.

I get a text from her early tonight asking if I can help her out. She needs a rental car for a 24 hour period sometime next week. She says the car will cost her $225 and wonders if I can help her with it. Turns out she doesn't have a CC so probably needs me to rent it. I looked online and rental cars for that day only cost $50. I'm trying to figure out a way I could rent that car for her for $50 in exchange for some fun this weekend with her. I obviously don't want to put the rental in my name because lord knows what she will do with it. Any thoughts on getting her a pre-paid card and renting it? She says she does have a debit card.

Would love any thoughts.

Big Mistake.

[JZLizard]

One thing I have found helpful is referring to myself as Daddy in the 3rd person.

Historically I've been forced to play it by ear on the daddy talk. I can take it or leave it myself, but when it feels right I try to see if she's into it (you can usually tell right away) because it can be a lot of fun. Some seem to not be into it or haven't thought about it yet, or they just don't respond when I start with the daddy talk.

You would think that only females would ever have a problem with it and that all guys would find it fun, but my best friend told me when a girl calls him daddy in bed it immediately turns him off. So, I guess there's no accounting for what people are into.

In general though anytime you can tap into something that makes her feel like she has a license to play without feeling judged, you'll get the best sex she has to offer. One of the great things about the bowl is that all SD's are getting better sex from the girls than their regular boyfriends ever do, because when they are in love with a guy or pining for a future with him, they are less likely to unleash their inner naughty(sluty) self.

Many times I've found myself having better / hornier / more intense sex with a girl when she has a look that I like but a personality that I don't care for, and could never see myself dating. Not sure why but it creates a separation that can intensify the sex.

[GeorgeRichmond]

Tell her that your financial position has changed and that you need to make an adjustment. Tell her what that exact amount is, but tell her you think it will only be a temporary thing. If she doesn't go along with it, then you're going to have to either cut her loose or reduce the amount of times you see her. Personally, I have done this onlyonce and it worked out. I was going to do it another time but then chose to cut her loose instead.

Thanks. Yes, I have gone down on allowance. As it adds up. With all other expenses.

[Donatello]

Keep in mind that less than 5% of young college age girls would consider this lifestyle. In fact, they are grossed out by some "old" guy thinking about fucking them. They call us creepers. I agree they are out there trying to attract the guys attention, but usually age appropriate and in a look don't touch mode. How do I know this? I have a daughter, nieces and all their friends who talk about it amongst themselves. I am a fly on the wall listening to it laughing inside. I remember seeing a survey in some news article about SA a few years ago about what colleges have the highest participation rate with SA. Georgia was high on the list and I think the rate was 5% .

Maybe I'm blessed to live in a state and location where colleges are plentiful. I did some quick math, looking at just 7 of the local State Universities within a 20 mile radius. Combined undergrad enrollment is about 127,000. Assuming 1/2 are female (which latest reports show the trend is closer to 55%-60% female majority on most US campuses), we've got 63,500 ladies, which puts that tiny 5% POT at over 3100 potential Sugar Curious. Even 5% of the 5% would give me 3 a week to try out. And this is just the 7 local State Schools within 20 miles. Expand it to 100 miles, and I've got 16 State Schools, 57 private colleges and universities, and in a pinch, 63 community colleges. I'd clearly run outa Sugar FAR before I run out of options.

Bottom Line. I'm NEVER moving!

[LandonR]

Need some advice on how to play this one brothers. Met with a mid 20's potential today. She's probably about a 7 or 8 with a nice body. Met at a local bar around lunch time. Talked for about 30 minutes over a drink and then I walked to her to her car. Deep kiss turned pretty passionate and next thing I know we are in my car and I'm getting road head. Not more than 2 minutes into it she says, "this is going to cost you. " and immediately my UTR radar starts going off. I don't think she is, but that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I stopped her then and told her we probably shouldn't continue doing that until we had something figured out. She agreed and we made tentative plans to meet in a couple of days.

I get a text from her early tonight asking if I can help her out. She needs a rental car for a 24 hour period sometime next week. She says the car will cost her $225 and wonders if I can help her with it. Turns out she doesn't have a CC so probably needs me to rent it. I looked online and rental cars for that day only cost $50. I'm trying to figure out a way I could rent that car for her for $50 in exchange for some fun this weekend with her. I obviously don't want to put the rental in my name because lord knows what she will do with it. Any thoughts on getting her a pre-paid card and renting it? She says she does have a debit card.

Would love any thoughts.

[FyrGuy33]

If you agreed a amount to SB then you don't think SB is worth that much, have you bargained or re-negotiated? Wondering. How to do it? Is it possible to do renegotiation. ? What do you say if answer is yes.

Tell her that your financial position has changed and that you need to make an adjustment. Tell her what that exact amount is, but tell her you think it will only be a temporary thing. If she doesn't go along with it, then you're going to have to either cut her loose or reduce the amount of times you see her. Personally, I have done this onlyonce and it worked out. I was going to do it another time but then chose to cut her loose instead.

[FyrGuy33]

Looking to join SA and was looking for advice. Is the site worth joining? Any help is appreciated. I know you guys are the experts.

I think you will find it to be worth it if you play the game correctly. Be sure to first spend time reading thru this thread. There are many very valuable tips about negotiating with SB's in general. Make sure you create a profile that fits you first. I have had several SB's tell me that they run into far too many profiles that do not represent who they meet and that the photo is not current. Then troll thru and see if there are any SB's you are interested in talking to. If not, then wait a while before you pony up for a Premium Membership. Happy Hunting.

[GeorgeRichmond]

If you agreed a amount to SB then you don't think SB is worth that much, have you bargained or re-negotiated? Wondering. How to do it? Is it possible to do renegotiation. ? What do you say if answer is yes.

[HollywoodGuy]

One thing I have found helpful is referring to myself as Daddy in the 3rd person. This type of roleplay is very helpful in being able to communicate things on a more intimate level without getting too personal.

You can love your Daddy / Baby or do sexy things without feeling like you are letting go emotionally. I have also noticed the babies get much wetter when they are pleasing Daddy. And my ability to stay rock hard also increases.

I also suggest or have them assign an age to themselves that they are most comfortable with when pleasing Daddy. This really gets the ball rolling.

[JZLizard]

Keep in mind that less than 5% of young college age girls would consider this lifestyle. In fact, they are grossed out by some "old" guy thinking about fucking them. They call us creepers. I agree they are out there trying to attract the guys attention, but usually age appropriate and in a look don't touch mode. How do I know this? I have a daughter, nieces and all their friends who talk about it amongst themselves. I am a fly on the wall listening to it laughing inside. I remember seeing a survey in some news article about SA a few years ago about what colleges have the highest participation rate with SA. Georgia was high on the list and I think the rate was 5% .

If you mean only 5% would put a profile on an SD site, then I can certainly believe it would be that low. But I was talking about hot women flaunting their bodies in general in the context of the prior posters' comments.

Hot women in general share certain common traits. Even if they don't join SD websites, the percentage of hot women that would gladly accept an older SD that will keep them safely in the lifestyle they would prefer is probably up around 90%. Even if they don't want an older guy, the percentage of hot women who care about the value of their appearance and their overall sex appeal is probably 99%. Girls will say and do one thing to their friends but then conduct their life in a completely different manner given the opportunity. It is in their nature to not reveal their pay for play fantasies.

That's more what I was talking about when I say they want to quantify the value of their pussy. That's just a female thing, not an SB thing necessarily.

About the top colleges for SB, I've seen a few of those articles (just google for "top sugarbaby colleges" or similar) and most of them list different schools from year to year. Like most "best of" lists, the methodology for coming up with the list tends to be heavily flawed and put together for one purpose only, to draw people to an article and get them to click the ads around the article, so it's really all one marketing scam. The only way I would believe any list that tells me they know which schools have the highest SB ratio per capita (the only way to calculate it in any meaningful way, because of course larger schools are going to have more sluts. Duh) would be if maybe SA or one of those sites sold them data on their membership based on the prevalence of particular. Edu domains in their e-mail address (SA for example gives college girls free premium access if they sign up with their college email address). And yes it's possible that SA does do that for some of these lists, but I think most of them are cooked up by marketing yutzes that just want to sell click bait ads.

[Graham111]

One of the joys of this hobby is getting to experience technique and different physical attributes. All woman are beautiful unto themselves. SB 20 is a 43 yo that I really thought would be a low ball one time deal. Told me she had been told she is tight (sure don't they all). But she has the tightest pussy! She likes to come over and start bydrink a beer and making out while sitting on my lap. I can feel her thighs getting wet and by the time she finished the beer and I lean her over the couch she is dripping. And off to the races. If I can get her into the third hole I am hooked. Says she has only done with her husband on coke so we are not going there that way! That will make for a way expensive date.

You never know!

[BigDawg14]

Looking to join SA and was looking for advice. Is the site worth joining? Any help is appreciated. I know you guys are the experts.

[FredMoore]

All too aware. While there are attractive females out there who are unaware what they have, they are rare and tend to not expend effort revealing it.

The ones wearing bikinis already know full well what they have, and in the case of SBs are trying to figure out the monetary value of their assets before those assets depreciate with age.

But none of the hot ones are ever oblivious to their appeal. They learn young what they have, then various men and other women remind them of it on a daily basis, especially in an always-online society. The ones acting like "who?? Me?? hot??" are the extra slick ones you need to watch even closer... LOL

Keep in mind that less than 5% of young college age girls would consider this lifestyle. In fact, they are grossed out by some "old" guy thinking about fucking them. They call us creepers. I agree they are out there trying to attract the guys attention, but usually age appropriate and in a look don't touch mode. How do I know this? I have a daughter, nieces and all their friends who talk about it amongst themselves. I am a fly on the wall listening to it laughing inside. I remember seeing a survey in some news article about SA a few years ago about what colleges have the highest participation rate with SA. Georgia was high on the list and I think the rate was 5% .