"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[JZLizard]

Just got this response to my CL ad:

"I'm XXXXXX and I am interested in marrying you. Why have a Sugar baby and you can have someone to spend the rest of your life with. I will give you sex weekly and all you have to do is take care of me. I want kids so we can try for them next year. My pussy is tight so it might take a while for me to warm up to you. Text me at XXXXXXXXX if interested".

She didn't attach pics with this response, but she's responded to my ads before with pics attached, and she is not at all attractive. I didn't want her as my SB, let alone my wife. SMH..

I'm going to go with likely someone pranking his buddy on that one.

[FotoGuy1970]

Just got this response to my CL ad:

"I'm XXXXXX and I am interested in marrying you. Why have a Sugar baby and you can have someone to spend the rest of your life with. I will give you sex weekly and all you have to do is take care of me. I want kids so we can try for them next year. My pussy is tight so it might take a while for me to warm up to you. Text me at XXXXXXXXX if interested".

She didn't attach pics with this response, but she's responded to my ads before with pics attached, and she is not at all attractive. I didn't want her as my SB, let alone my wife. SMH..

[Happy Lover]

I'm envious of you guys who are satisfied by a finely crafted BJ. Unfortunately I cannot get off with one and only fucking will do it for me. I have to have the whole package including eating some sweet pussy. The latter is a good way to evaluate the girl's vaginal health because I examine her manually and visually for bumps, blisters, and stinky discharge. If they pass the taste and smell test then I am deep diving with little Fred.

I guess I make three. BJs are great, but they are always a precursor to the main event, never the whole show. This has been something of an issue with SO's in the past. They feel like they aren't doing something right because they can't make me cum. The upside is that they try REALLY hard to get me there.

The visual vaginal health exam is one of the reasons I don't trust a girl who wants to turn off the lights. Hell, I don't even want "mood" lighting. If she is sexy enough that I want to take her clothes off, then I want to see her in all of her glory. Not some shaded, shadowy figure.

[FotoGuy1970]

I'm envious of you guys who are satisfied by a finely crafted BJ. Unfortunately I cannot get off with one and only fucking will do it for me. I have to have the whole package including eating some sweet pussy. The latter is a good way to evaluate the girl's vaginal health because I examine her manually and visually for bumps, blisters, and stinky discharge. If they pass the taste and smell test then I am deep diving with little Fred.

I've never, ever been able to get off with oral either.

[Beachesnole02]

So I had a really busy week last week, I saw my young regular, but I could not make my schedule work with my Columbian cutie and it was her birthday week. On her birthday I managed to arrange to see her before work to give her a little gift. She comes back out and tells me that her boss has given her the afternoon off and we can meet for a drink. So on to the neighborhood Chilies where though out the conversation she is sliding her foot up and rubbing my crotch. Finally I was so hot we paid the tab and moved my SUV over to the Lowes parking lot to "make out a little" She was in a short skirt, so next thing you know we are in the back seat and my face was buried between her knees giving her another birthday gift. Then she whips me out and returns the favor, eventually climbing on in reverse doggie and banging the shit out of me.

All of this in broad daylight in a busy parking lot with cars driving by.. I have to be careful with this one, I might end up on the news. That latin blood, thought I would share a little with you guys .

[CaneBay]

Interesting site, what do you mean if a message is not sent, ie they wink first or can they send you an email not sure what you mean thanks.

Oh on SA you can sure by location, which seems to semi sort by login date now finally, or by near me and sort by login date also they have a good intro price

I mean you do not have to spend money (credits) to access the POTs email if they have not sent a message. I only accept dates if they send a message with the acceptance of my offer. Seems to weed out a lot of flakes.

[Bucktrain]

Pregnancy update. She sent me an official looking statement that detailed the abortion costs and everything. I'm just waiting on confirmation from her two week checkup that she's no longer pregnant before I send the money for it. I'll pay $400 to keep from paying for 18 years, but I don't think I'm ever going to meet with her again.

On another note, I met a potential SB for frozen yogurt. I thought we were meeting for just yogurt, but she suggested we go get a room after we were finished. We did and I received the most amazing BJ that I have ever had (I don't really want to have sex after that scare). It was a pornstar BJ with deep throating and a little gagging. She was really hot. Nursing major, 5'9 with see cups. Everything went downhill after I finished and asked for another one 10 minutes later. She said she was really tired and she put a lot work into that. I asked again and she got really offended. We hung out in the hotel room and watched a movie. She left and I never heard back from her again. She went radio silent. Disappointing, but that was amazing head.

I have two more potentials. A 5'10 stunner who's auditioning to be an NFL Cheerleader and a sexy Alabama girl that graduated college last December.

Having been through the pregnancy scare scam a couple of times, they do a sonogram of the fetus which there should be documentation of. Ask her for proof. And go with her to the clinic and wait inside to make sure. A girl I used to mess with tried to get me for $600 saying she was pregnant and she wanted me to just drop her off at the clinic with $600. I insisted on going in with her. Well it turns out she wasn't pregnant and I saved a few hundred bucks and got the satisfaction of showing her she couldn't run that scam on me.

[FredMoore]

I'm envious of you guys who are satisfied by a finely crafted BJ. Unfortunately I cannot get off with one and only fucking will do it for me. I have to have the whole package including eating some sweet pussy. The latter is a good way to evaluate the girl's vaginal health because I examine her manually and visually for bumps, blisters, and stinky discharge. If they pass the taste and smell test then I am deep diving with little Fred.

[HollywoodGuy]

Pregnancy update. She sent me an official looking statement that detailed the abortion costs and everything. I'm just waiting on confirmation from her two week checkup that she's no longer pregnant before I send the money for it. I'll pay $400 to keep from paying for 18 years, but I don't think I'm ever going to meet with her again.

On another note, I met a potential SB for frozen yogurt. I thought we were meeting for just yogurt, but she suggested we go get a room after we were finished. We did and I received the most amazing BJ that I have ever had (I don't really want to have sex after that scare). It was a pornstar BJ with deep throating and a little gagging. She was really hot. Nursing major, 5'9 with see cups. Everything went downhill after I finished and asked for another one 10 minutes later. She said she was really tired and she put a lot work into that. I asked again and she got really offended. We hung out in the hotel room and watched a movie. She left and I never heard back from her again. She went radio silent. Disappointing, but that was amazing head.

I have two more potentials. A 5'10 stunner who's auditioning to be an NFL Cheerleader and a sexy Alabama girl that graduated college last December.

As good as some of them are in the BJ dept, I only have one that can last a decent length of time (and she is so proud of it). When they say they are tired I just tell em to suck my balls. Never been turned down yet. But any girl that gets offended is not someone you really want to see again.

[Donwhite]

Pregnancy update. She sent me an official looking statement that detailed the abortion costs and everything. I'm just waiting on confirmation from her two week checkup that she's no longer pregnant before I send the money for it. I'll pay $400 to keep from paying for 18 years, but I don't think I'm ever going to meet with her again.

On another note, I met a potential SB for frozen yogurt. I thought we were meeting for just yogurt, but she suggested we go get a room after we were finished. We did and I received the most amazing BJ that I have ever had (I don't really want to have sex after that scare). It was a pornstar BJ with deep throating and a little gagging. She was really hot. Nursing major, 5'9 with see cups. Everything went downhill after I finished and asked for another one 10 minutes later. She said she was really tired and she put a lot work into that. I asked again and she got really offended. We hung out in the hotel room and watched a movie. She left and I never heard back from her again. She went radio silent. Disappointing, but that was amazing head.

I have two more potentials. A 5'10 stunner who's auditioning to be an NFL Cheerleader and a sexy Alabama girl that graduated college last December.

[Johnny 5]

If you have read the entire thread you will recognize your early SB as a classic Nando 1 .

Yes, she was definitely a Nando 1, It's unfortunate, but I learned and moved on.

As for more recent pursuits:

1. In October, I was trying to get over a relationship, so I was looking around on craigslist. I answered an ad that was primarily talking about being a submissive in a dom / sub relationship, but she tacked on at the end something about looking for a SD as well. I told her that I had no dom / sub experience, but I was open to figuring that out, and I was open to helping her out if she needed. She e-mailed me back shortly after, then we started texting, and after a couple of days we met for a late dinner. She looked just like her pictures: petite, blonde hair with glasses, 28 years old, divorced, no kids, and had a full-time job (but it didn't pay a whole lot). And it was just very normal hanging out with her. We alluded to the SD / SB thing but didn't talk about money, and at the end of the night there was a lot of passionate kissing. I couldn't wait to get her into bed then, and even more so after she had sent me a bunch of pictures of herself while we were texting late the following night. A couple of nights later we met up, and it was great. There was no sugar mentioned or exchanged.

She and I met about once a week, and it became more like a friends with benefits kind of thing -- we would start out hanging out and talking, watching tv, etc., then we would head to the bedroom. About a month after we met, she asked me for help paying her student loans, which were a ridiculous amount per month (especially considering the school / degree she received). So I told her what I could give her, and she was appreciative for that. I gave her sugar the following month too, but not again after that. The cost per visit ended up very reasonable. She brought no drama or other major issues. However, in February she received a promotion that required her to move to another state, so our time together had to end. We always knew that it was going to be a temporary thing, but I still miss her.

Nevertheless, I renewed my profile on SD4 me in February. (They double charged me using two different website names, so I had to dispute that. Definitely take the advice to use disposable gift cards, which I had done before but the little head made the decision first). I sent messages to a bunch of potential babies, got responses from most of them, but only three were anything.

2. Redhead medical assistant. She actually contacted me first. There was not an instant attraction based on her profile and pics, but I decided to continue talking with her, and we ended up texting then an impromptu meet-and-greet during my lunch one day. She claimed to be 26 (a later internet search gave me reason to doubt that), and she said that she had a job at a local doctor's office but had her hours cut significantly. She quickly jumped right into the money discussion. I told her what I was willing to help her out with and how often, and she said that would be fine. She told me about a previous SD who she had in college who would give her 3 k / month, and I wondered who she suckered into doing that. Anyway, after lunch she and I went outside to talk a little bit more. She was wearing a very low-cut shirt, and I had to check her out a little bit. But it didn't get any further, not the least because I had to return to work. She asked me for some sugar after giving me a story about a car title loan she had to make payments on. I figured it would be an advance of our first meeting in the FC that evening, so I just went ahead and gave her the money. After work, I texted her and she gave me some excuse about why she couldn't meet up.

It wasn't until the weekend (a couple of days later) that she asked me if she wanted to meet up. She texted me in the morning and gave the impression that she was basically ready to go and could meet up within an hour or so. That worked for me, so I got myself ready, then I waited. And waited. And waited. I texted her several times to find out what was going on, and when I got an answer much later it was nothing more than something like "I'm on my way." Never mind that I had things to do besides her. Oh, and she also asked if I was able to help her with the amount that we had discussed previously. Ugh. About six hours later she finally arrived and gave me a story about why she couldn't leave immediately, and she said she got lost. But she was there. So I led her into the FC, and we got comfortable. However, all I could think about was how annoyed I had been that she had been late, and that I had other things to do after she left. Then she asked to turn all the lights off. I obliged, but I like being able to see what I'm doing, so that was another negative. And the whole experience was just eh. The next week I told her that I didn't know when I would be able to see her, and she texted me a few more times but I didn't respond. I didn't want to deal with it.

But just this past week, another member here posted to offer information about this same girl to others as a UTR escort (with pictures). I assume that she approved of it, but I guess the sugar world alone wasn't enough for her. I may have dodged a bullet. Although as an escort, she would probably be great.

3. AA new to area. This one was supposedly a 23 year old mother who said she had moved to the area a month ago. Her profile was pretty well written, and she said she was looking for a close friendship and not just a transactional thing. Ok with me. In talking some more, she claimed to need money for daycare for her child so she could look for a job. It seemed a reasonable amount, so ok. Then one evening we were texting, and she asked if I wanted to talk on Skype. We talked for an hour. She apparently had her child in the same room, so it was kind of awkward. Before she moved to this area, she said she had been a webcam girl. Her profile on Skype also listed her age as 10 years older than what she had told me, and she did look old for 23. So there were some red flags. A few days later, she asked me when we would be able to meet up. I told her I didn't know, and we haven't talked again since. I am comfortable with it.

4. College baby. A 21 year old college student. She kept remarking about how normal I seemed to be when I contacted her. Apparently a lot of other guys on there are very offputting. After exchanging messages through the site a few times, we started texting. A couple of weeks later, we met for dinner / drinks. She said she had never done anything like that before and was worried that I was going to expect to sleep with her on the first date. I told her that this was just going to be dinner. She was about a 6 or 7 in looks, but I thought definitely cute. She is a full time student and works as a waitress on weekends and some other nights. We ended up spending a few hours together just talking, and I definitely want to see her again so we can advance things toward the FC. However, getting to see her again has proven to be a challenge to say the least. A couple of times we have made tentative plans only to have her back out at the last minute. Right now I've decided to cool things off, and if she wants to come to me, then we can talk.

That's pretty much it for me. Hopefully there will be more possibilities in the near future, but the bowl doesn't get replenished around here as often as some areas.

[FotoGuy1970]

In my last report, I was dismissing my sub SB and was beginning the seemingly endless quest to find the next girl for my arrangement. I am extremely picky, so it takes me a long while to find the right one. In no particular order, here are some of the girls I have (or have not) met with these past couple weeks. Some girls came from SA, some came from CL:

*HCB POT: Met with her for a M&G, and she was super cute, girl next door look that I crave. We seemed to hit it off really well and we both agreed to see each other again and she said she'd text me her schedule. I never heard from her, so I sent her a nice text asking if she was still interested. Her iMessage showed that she read it, but she never replied back. I figured she changed her mind or whatever, so I let her know through a nice message on SA that I enjoyed meeting with her and that if she would like to meet up again, just let me know. I really liked her and wished things had progressed beyond a M&G with her.

*Masseuse POT: Had an alt chick who does massage therapy contact me, who was really interested in my offer. Our first M&G actually consisted of me going to the legit spa she works out of and having her giving me really, really good Swedish massage, with some extra wandering of her hands. The best M&G I have had yet, by far. We met a few days later for a FC date, but she wasn't just submissive (as she knew I wanted her to be), she was passive. She just laid there and didn't do much of anything. I have ED issues already, and her not doing anything to help killed it for me. Little FotoGuy barely got erect. I gave her a generous gift and have been back in to see her for another massage since then, but this one was way less sensual than the previous one. I still plan on getting massages from her on a regular basis because she's really good at it, but I don't see us having another FC date.

*Flaky POT: A girl who lives a half-hour away was interested in my offer, so I drove out there to pick her up as she got out of work. As I pull in the parking lot, she texts me saying she needs to go home and shower. I ask her if I'm waiting here or how are we working this? After long pauses and brief texts, she tells me she's already home and she'll be ready in another 3 hours! I promptly drive the 30 minutes back home, during which she is texting me saying she's sorry and would like to see me on her day off. I accept her apology and we make plans again, but this time I'm telling myself that I will not be making the drive back out there unless she texts me first on the day of to confirm. Sure enough, she goes radio silent and I didn't have to make the drive back out there only to be potentially stood up by her again.

*Nerd POT: Met a girl on SA who lived 90+ minutes away and we had a genuine, true connection. Similar tastes and interests. We didn't discuss any arrangement for a few days, we just chatted like new friends who had a lot in common and we made plans to meet on the weekend, just under a week away. A few days before the meet, she texts me and asks for details on what kind of arrangement I would offer her. I cite the long distance between us and that it would affect how often we would be able to meet, but I genuinely like her so I give her a generous offer. She seems very appreciative and indicates that that will work. The next day, she's not responding to my texts and I then see she is blocking me on SA and FB. I still have no idea what her problem was, but at least she pulled that shit before I drove 3 hours for a M&G.

*Sporadic texts POT: A girl trying to go to college and support herself with part-time work contacted me and seemed very interested in offer. Over the next week, communication was VERY sporadic. Then earlier today she contacts me and is looking to set up a dinner date for middle of this week, as she is in another state getting some medical treatment. She then asks me for a favor, she needs immediate financial assistance to stay in the hotel room she's been in. She promises to repay me, sends me some nudie pics as collateral. At first I'm going to do it, because she's not asking for much. Then I realize she has no idea what I look like or even how old I am. I have absolutely zero guarantee that she'll pay me back at all, let alone in the way I'd like her to pay me back, because neither her nor I know if she is sexually attracted to me at all. So I tell her no, I'm not advancing money to someone I haven't even met yet. She didn't like that and I haven't heard back from her yet, and I'd be surprised if I hear back from her at all, let alone have a M&G with her this week like we discussed.

*College POT: Nice enough girl, met for dinner. She assured me in texts that the arrangement would be mutually beneficial, but there has been no discussion at all of specifics. We are planning on meeting up later this week, but no discussion of what kind of a date we're having. She's really attractive and I like her, but I have no idea where this particular relationship is going.

I'm currently planning a trip to the Windy City over my upcoming 3-day weekend, so I've been vigorously trying to find some attractive girls to keep me company while I'm there. If that happens, I will bring back a report.

[GeorgeRichmond]

Talking about identifying potential SBs
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Friends & brothers.

I am back to see if I can fin new SB. Was out of the game for past 6 month or so. Well...first few hits and getting msgs like.

"hey there, I'm interested in spending some nights with you in a hotel room with strawberries and champagne. We can be naughty, after all your my daddy.

My allowance for the first "playtime" will be $.

Email if interested".

WOW..sounds pros all over. I have seen Richmond is drying up or may be SBs are either pro or not much into the game.

[FredMoore]

Hello... I've been a long-time lurker here, but I've been in the bowl off and on for about three years.

The last time I saw her, she had a flat tire that she didn't get fixed for whatever reason, so she was using a portable air compressor to fill it when it got low. Well, she was trying to do this in my driveway at 11:00 pm, and I had to tell her to stop before she woke the neighbors. I made her go to a shopping center down the street to do it. She moved to Florida to live with other family members shortly after the last time I saw her, and I know she's been on backpage occasionally down there since then. She's also been arrested a few times too, including for drug possession. Not surprising at all.

Welcome to the posting department Johnny. Tell us about what you have going on at present. We all live vicariously and learn from each brother's success and failure.

If you have read the entire thread you will recognize your early SB as a classic Nando 1 . It is too bad that these girls spiral down the rabbit hole. Hopefully some of them recover and become productive and happy citizens. Many stay mired in the pursuit of a free ride and never recover. They can only ride on their looks and sex appeal for so long before father time catches up with them.

[Johnny 5]

Hello... I've been a long-time lurker here, but I've been in the bowl off and on for about three years.

Talking about identifying potential SBs who are really pros reminded me of my first long-term SB. I contacted her off of SD4 me, and we initially started talking about regular things. When the conversation turned to money, I told her what I was willing to pay. She replied by asking "for how long? Then she told me that she usually received a slightly larger amount for two hours. I should've realized at the time that it was a sign of a professional mentality, whether she was actually a pro or not. But we met at the amount I offered her, and she was a 10 in looks, and an 8 in the bedroom only because she didn't do the whole range of activities in the beginning. She didn't act like a pro at all, just a normal 19 year old who needed some extra money to pay for things her parents weren't helping her out with.

Anyway, after a few months, she was noticeably going downhill. Every time I would see her, she had some story about her living situation or some other drama. She also started calling me to ask for help paying some random bill, as if it were an emergency. Almost every time, I made sure I got something from her in return though. Some of her stories were really weird but plausible, and a couple of times I was able to verify them from publicly available information. But I could tell there was something more than what she was telling me, too, and I was never able to trust her more than what she had in front of me.

Then one day, I was browsing backpage and saw a picture of a girl that looked like her. I checked the number, and it was an old number that she had given me that she supposedly wasn't using anymore. After searching the numbers I had and the pictures some more, it turns out that she had been posting ads on there for several months. All of the previous ones were using fake pictures and a different age (older than what she actually was) -- that ad I saw was the first one using her real pics. So I confronted her about it the next time I saw her, and she first pretended not to know what I was talking about, then she said she wasn't really seeing anybody from there. Uh huh. We saw each other a couple of more times, but there was so much drama, she was becoming super flaky, she was letting herself go in so many ways, and it was more of a burden to deal with her with minimal fun. That was the end of her for me.

The last time I saw her, she had a flat tire that she didn't get fixed for whatever reason, so she was using a portable air compressor to fill it when it got low. Well, she was trying to do this in my driveway at 11:00 pm, and I had to tell her to stop before she woke the neighbors. I made her go to a shopping center down the street to do it. She moved to Florida to live with other family members shortly after the last time I saw her, and I know she's been on backpage occasionally down there since then. She's also been arrested a few times too, including for drug possession. Not surprising at all.