"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[FredMoore]

"I'm pregnant ".

Go dark and forget her. Does she know where to find you?

Re: Pictures.

I use fakes provided by an escort I used to bang. She found them and I have never had any SB question them.

HL's Loss.

Sorry for your loss HL. Another option is to offer the escort rate again. They all need money. Anytime I have taken a SB private has not worked out. She is getting her jollies with the new age appropriate BF and doesn't need you for that, but she might come back for the Dough. Tell her "Honey, I can either get a new SB and pay her, or I would much rather pay you. What do you think? ".

[UKnowWho]

I send out about 100 intro letters a month. I get at most 8 affirmative responses. Then try to meet 2 to 4 new girls a month. In my area there are that many new girls a month. If I raised it to $$ I would probably get about 30 affirmatives a month. But there is a direct correlation between the more you pay the less E factor you get.

Damn, count your blessings...in my area, I'd say my saved search for women 35 and under within 50 miles (no other criteria) returns about 20 new women each month, tops. If 8 out of 100 replied at $ and then one fourth to one half of those actually met, then I'd be looking at only meeting ONE new girl every five to ten weeks! And that's without any filtering based on appearance, and trust me, I believe that's far more necessary here than in Hollywood, haha.

[HollywoodGuy]

I send out about 100 intro letters a month. I get at most 8 affirmative responses. Then try to meet 2 to 4 new girls a month. In my area there are that many new girls a month. If I raised it to $$ I would probably get about 30 affirmatives a month. But there is a direct correlation between the more you pay the less E factor you get.

When I get rich again I,ll try it out. Till then I<ll go with what I can afford. And looks and performance do not go hand in hand. The up side is even if the performance is lacking you still get to be with a true hottie. But as I begin to age, get more perverted, and slower to get off, I need the skilled babes more than ever. But I,ll take a 7/7/9/9 over a 9/9/7/7 any day.

The quarterly report is coming up fast. And I have meticulous records to share. Wish I didn. T get sucked into the whole Bush bubble economy. I didn't save for the crash. Now I am living on wages, and still got to small family to support. Life sucks, but these girls make it worth living.

[HollywoodGuy]

She's two weeks late. We hooked up on Feb. 23. She was in my area for a wedding and we met up. We used condoms and she supposedly was on birth control. I saw her birth control pills laying on the table in the hotel room so I know she wasn't lying about being on them. She swears she hasn't been with anyone else. She said she's going to Planned Parenthood to get the Abortion pill tomorrow. She went Friday, but they have a 24 hour waiting period after they give you all the information, before you can have the abortion. I guess I'll find out if she goes thru with it tomorrow.

FYI, She said the $475 was for the ultrasound, the abortion pill, pain pills and the 2 week followup appointment. She also said she might be able to get the student discount and bring it down to about $425. She said she's definitely not having it, but people can change their mind..

For girls under 26 PP is free if you say you are indigent. And they don't ask for proof.

[Dsprdo]

Nobody likes to get scammed, but Revvo is right. You must deal with this at all costs and no matter the inconvenience. Being in the 15th year of CS for a one night stand, let me assure you that the alternative is not good, and you literally have zero say in the matter from now until at least the year 2032.

[Donwhite]

Did this just happen? If so you need to show your concern and attention. It would be worth it to talk to her a lot and spend a little time with her. Regardless of the drive and the cost. You need to go into full damage control mode. Sounds like it is tool late for the morning after pill.

Remember you have absolutely zero rights right now. Just think about that for a minute. The ball is completely in her court. Hopefully she is not a manipulative *****. I have had only one scare. But it was with the coolest chick on the planet and she was ok with taking the morning after pill. Which I had her do in front of me. But she would not have done an abortion.

Did not like the feeling of helplessness one bit.

On another note my little princess bought some items at Fredricks of Hollywood and sent me some photos. She loves to show off for me. She will be wearing them tomorrow when we meet.

Life is good in the bowl. At least for now. LOL.

Revvo.

She's two weeks late. We hooked up on Feb. 23. She was in my area for a wedding and we met up. We used condoms and she supposedly was on birth control. I saw her birth control pills laying on the table in the hotel room so I know she wasn't lying about being on them. She swears she hasn't been with anyone else. She said she's going to Planned Parenthood to get the Abortion pill tomorrow. She went Friday, but they have a 24 hour waiting period after they give you all the information, before you can have the abortion. I guess I'll find out if she goes thru with it tomorrow.

FYI, She said the $475 was for the ultrasound, the abortion pill, pain pills and the 2 week followup appointment. She also said she might be able to get the student discount and bring it down to about $425. She said she's definitely not having it, but people can change their mind..

[Revvo]

Did this just happen? If so you need to show your concern and attention. It would be worth it to talk to her a lot and spend a little time with her. Regardless of the drive and the cost. You need to go into full damage control mode. Sounds like it is tool late for the morning after pill.

Remember you have absolutely zero rights right now. Just think about that for a minute. The ball is completely in her court. Hopefully she is not a manipulative *****. I have had only one scare. But it was with the coolest chick on the planet and she was ok with taking the morning after pill. Which I had her do in front of me. But she would not have done an abortion.

Did not like the feeling of helplessness one bit.

On another note my little princess bought some items at Fredricks of Hollywood and sent me some photos. She loves to show off for me. She will be wearing them tomorrow when we meet.

Life is good in the bowl. At least for now. LOL.

Revvo.

[JZLizard]

Having paid for about 10 over the years I finally got a vasectomy.

Nice, it's the ultimate response to the pregnancy dilemma.

Her: I don't know how this happened but I'm pregnant and need -X- to cover the -y-.

Him: Who else have you been banging dear, I thought we were exclusive? I had a vasectomy a decade ago!

LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

Yeah, that brings up another point, it doesn't hurt to take a look at options available in her area for getting the cost down just to get a better perspective.

At the same time, I should say I would be very careful about suggesting things like what she should do, only because if she is telling the truth there are a gazillion things going through her head right now.

If true, the pregnancy / abortion issue is something that involves her body and if the tables were turned and we were getting ready to take some pill that had some effect on our sperm or nutsack, we probably wouldn't appreciate someone else saying "hey you need to get that drug cheaper via a Canadian mail order pharmacy where its been imported from China" or whatever. Ok, we're men so we already know about the cheaper options ... But female logic is different.

I'm just saying it's sensitive issue for most females so you want to approach everything with caution, and you won't win if you do anything to make the situation more volatile. Think about worst case scenario -- she spins out emotionally and says fuck it I'm having this kid and I'll see you in court for support. Avoid that nightmare at all cost. It will be hard for anyone to know the optimal way to handle it without knowing the girl's personality personally, so use your best judgement here.

Having paid for about 10 over the years I finally got a vasectomy.

[JZLizard]

Planned parenthood average cost about $$$ Low income qualified women in los angeles only have to pay $100.

Yeah, that brings up another point, it doesn't hurt to take a look at options available in her area for getting the cost down just to get a better perspective.

At the same time, I should say I would be very careful about suggesting things like what she should do, only because if she is telling the truth there are a gazillion things going through her head right now.

If true, the pregnancy / abortion issue is something that involves her body and if the tables were turned and we were getting ready to take some pill that had some effect on our sperm or nutsack, we probably wouldn't appreciate someone else saying "hey you need to get that drug cheaper via a Canadian mail order pharmacy where its been imported from China" or whatever. Ok, we're men so we already know about the cheaper options ... But female logic is different.

I'm just saying it's sensitive issue for most females so you want to approach everything with caution, and you won't win if you do anything to make the situation more volatile. Think about worst case scenario -- she spins out emotionally and says fuck it I'm having this kid and I'll see you in court for support. Avoid that nightmare at all cost. It will be hard for anyone to know the optimal way to handle it without knowing the girl's personality personally, so use your best judgement here.

[ChipandPutt]

Texts you never want to get from a sugar baby: Literally just took a pregnancy test and I'm pregnant. I don't know how since we used a condom and I'm on birth control but it happened.

If she's telling the truth, it's a less than 1 percent chance of happening. Either I have super sperm, or I'm being played for $475 in abortion pill money. So, do I pay it or wait four more weeks to take a paternity test? I would see to it if she was local, but she lives 8 hours away from me.

It appears that you are skeptical that she is telling you the truth (and should be). So it seems an offer to reimburse along with a copy of the paperwork would be the best move.

[HollywoodGuy]

I can only tell you what I would do -- tell her to do what she need to do, send you all original copies of paperwork and you will reimburse her at 2 x the rate. Yes a grand isn't cheap but if she's lying you pay nothing and if she's not lying, a grand will buy you both peace of mind that you got out of the situation, and peace of mind of not wondering whether or not you got rolled for half the amount.

And yes I've been in this situation, though technically not a SB (just a mistress that I occasionally helped back in the days when I was married... problem was she was in love with me so she had a much bigger reason than money to play me for a fool).

And don't let her tell you she doesn't have money for the upfront medical costs. I've never seen a healthcare provider that didn't have payment terms available.

Planned parenthood average cost about $$$ Low income qualified women in los angeles only have to pay $100.

[Donwhite]

I can only tell you what I would do -- tell her to do what she need to do, send you all original copies of paperwork and you will reimburse her at 2 x the rate. Yes a grand isn't cheap but if she's lying you pay nothing and if she's not lying, a grand will buy you both peace of mind that you got out of the situation, and peace of mind of not wondering whether or not you got rolled for half the amount.

And yes I've been in this situation, though technically not a SB (just a mistress that I occasionally helped back in the days when I was married... problem was she was in love with me so she had a much bigger reason than money to play me for a fool).

And don't let her tell you she doesn't have money for the upfront medical costs. I've never seen a healthcare provider that didn't have payment terms available.

She said she's going to put it on her credit card, She just wants me to pay her back. I am going to ask for documentation. I told her that I would send her the money once everything was taken care of.

[JZLizard]

Texts you never want to get from a sugar baby: Literally just took a pregnancy test and I'm pregnant. I don't know how since we used a condom and I'm on birth control but it happened.

If she's telling the truth, it's a less than 1 percent chance of happening. Either I have super sperm, or I'm being played for $475 in abortion pill money. So, do I pay it or wait four more weeks to take a paternity test? I would see to it if she was local, but she lives 8 hours away from me.

I can only tell you what I would do -- tell her to do what she need to do, send you all original copies of paperwork and you will reimburse her at 2 x the rate. Yes a grand isn't cheap but if she's lying you pay nothing and if she's not lying, a grand will buy you both peace of mind that you got out of the situation, and peace of mind of not wondering whether or not you got rolled for half the amount.

And yes I've been in this situation, though technically not a SB (just a mistress that I occasionally helped back in the days when I was married... problem was she was in love with me so she had a much bigger reason than money to play me for a fool).

And don't let her tell you she doesn't have money for the upfront medical costs. I've never seen a healthcare provider that didn't have payment terms available.

[HollywoodGuy]

I have read your techniques and you seem most successful; question, what is your average damage per date? Excluding dinner and incidentals?

Although I offer $ per date. If you add in everything (including dinner and incidentals) but excluding gas I am closer to $.3 per date overall for every girl combined. Mostly that is due to my ATF who I do spend more on. I recently stopped seeing my MILF due to the higher costs incurred from always needing to get a room. She is supposed to be getting a new place where that won't be necessary. But until then I have cut her off. Also most of my dates are basically spent in the FC so there are no dinners, etc. I only hangout with 2 of my girls. My ATF who I call my GF and my roommate. And in their cases all the money I spend goes to dinner, CVS, cel phone bill, and salon trips, etc. I never actually hand them any hard cash at all, and I mean never.

My roommate has a new SD that is averaging about $$ to $$$ a day to hang out with her. And my ATF makes about 2k a month after taxes at her job and lives rent free with her folks. So neither of them is exactly hurting. They are both basically debt free.

But I will say that this has only happened after 5 years of DAILY cruising and averaging 2 to 4 new meetups a month. I am too embarrassed to say what I spent before that. This month I even started up with a 5/6/9/9 at .5 just to bring down my costs. And I do wish I could go to $$ a date as I am missing out on a lot of 8, 9 and even 10 quality girls due to strict financial constraints and wanting to date daily. If I only wanted to date lets say 10 or 15 times a month, I would have no trouble going to $$ a date. But I get bored too easy and hate being alone. I really only have 2 interests in life and that is work and dating. I try to do both 7 days a week but usually average about 6 on the dating side.