"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Revvo]

Ok, as you can tell I am a senior member but I've been more of an escort and massage person. Today I took my first step into the world of SD / SB and I joined SA. I am looking for some guidance.

Before anyone asks yes I did my home work. I looked on google and read blogs and other websites. Let me know if you know of any other good sites to read. I also found a SB on SA and I did look up her pic on Tineye just to make sure it was not a fake ad. Tineye came up empty. I also tried to look for her name on this forum but honestly I don't know to look up shit on this website.

So here is my current situation.

I am getting a lot emails from SA.com and am thinking of meeting a girl named Felicity. She is white, 22 and lives in Midlothian. She has a husband which is kind of weird.

1. Should I get involved with a SB that is married? Or is he her pimp? Honestly, this arrangement is more like an escort arrangement but I am good with that.

2. Has anyone ever heard of Felicity. I have her SA I'd if anyone is interested.

Sorry for sounding like a noob but I am one when it comes to SD / SB. Thanks everyone.

Believe me everyone is a noob to this when they start this is very much a skill that comes with practice and lots of failures. I have met women that had husbands and boyfriends that did not know they were doing this. For a variety of reasons. Because they needed the money and the SO was just worthless. Or because they were in an abusive relationship and could not get out of it.

Just make sure you keep your identity concealed.

Why do you say it is an escort arrangement? Is she acting like an escort? What kind of words does she use? What does she look like? Have you asked her what she is looking for?

Send us more details and lets see if we can help.

Be careful out there.

Revvo.

[Revvo]

Gentlemen as many others before me have said thank you. Hollywood Guy, Reevo, Big Tigger and the rest I've read countless posts and have learned a ton. This year was a huge step for me I went from AMP's to BP girls to TER babes only to realize all I needed to do in order to be really satisfied was to step into the Bowl. I opened my SA acct on Sunday and sent 20 emails, that night I began chatting with 2 POTs right then but the next morning I began texting and speaking with 10 girls. I learned something very quickly most of the college aged girls 18-21 have a unrealistic expectation of what their time is worth they'll have $250 + expectations and a hotel, I'm like heck no, but a girl in her mid 20's with rent to pay understands the value of a couple hundred bucks. By the end of the week I've had 4.

Welcome to the brotherhood. And you are welcome. Read our exploits and trials with care. There is a lot of hard won and sometimes painful experience there. I think you are going to find that this is a exciting, thrilling, frustrating, scary, and addicting experience. I like to think of it kind of like hunting but like it used to be many years ago. We are out there with our wits, our experience, and yes our dollars as ammunition. Trying to secure that most elusive of all creatures. The amateur that is beautiful and sexy and fun.

Congratulations on your exploits so far. Sounds like you are making quick progress. When you say by the end of the week you've had 4 what do you mean? Do you mean you contacted 4, talked to them, met them or fucked them? There is a very big difference.

Send in some detailed reports for the brotherhood. This is a helluva lot easier when you report and express your adventures and get help from the brothers on here.

Be careful out there.

Revvo.

[BigTigger]

Got into a back and forth via text with her. She finally replied after I sent her a scathing text calling her disrespectful and a scam artist (which I knew she wasn't, just wanted a reply). Her reply was simply that she wasn't doing anything until she took her retest. This really doesn't explain why a person cannot say "Hello or Good Morning". Either way she called me annoying to both of them (I was right, they were talking).

I then reminded her, you can't take my money then expect me to not call or text you. So I was annoying because I called and text to check in and see how she was doing? Amazing. I wished her the best and just told her if she was really as honest as she claims to be, then just greendot me my money back! I then deleted her information and moved on!

BT.

[BigTigger]

I will give a much detailed update later. But here is my quick twitter updates.

-Had overnight on Friday.

-Included dinner, movie, drinks.

-True ages are 19, not 20.

-One was on period, so did the Tiggabounce twice with the other one.

-Very inexperienced, lots of questions.

-She absolutely wore me out!

BT.

[HollywoodGuy]

Ok, as you can tell I am a senior member but I've been more of an escort and massage person. Today I took my first step into the world of SD / SB and I joined SA. I am looking for some guidance.

Before anyone asks yes I did my home work. I looked on google and read blogs and other websites. Let me know if you know of any other good sites to read. I also found a SB on SA and I did look up her pic on Tineye just to make sure it was not a fake ad. Tineye came up empty. I also tried to look for her name on this forum but honestly I don't know to look up shit on this website.

So here is my current situation.

I am getting a lot emails from SA.com and am thinking of meeting a girl named Felicity. She is white, 22 and lives in Midlothian. She has a husband which is kind of weird.

1. Should I get involved with a SB that is married? Or is he her pimp? Honestly, this arrangement is more like an escort arrangement but I am good with that.

2. Has anyone ever heard of Felicity. I have her SA I'd if anyone is interested.

Sorry for sounding like a noob but I am one when it comes to SD / SB. Thanks everyone.

I bow to those who came before me. And Welcome Bro. This is a step up from MP's and Escorts, although they certainly have their place (almost hit one today).

[Ltnric]

Ok, as you can tell I am a senior member but I've been more of an escort and massage person. Today I took my first step into the world of SD / SB and I joined SA. I am looking for some guidance.

Before anyone asks yes I did my home work. I looked on google and read blogs and other websites. Let me know if you know of any other good sites to read. I also found a SB on SA and I did look up her pic on Tineye just to make sure it was not a fake ad. Tineye came up empty. I also tried to look for her name on this forum but honestly I don't know to look up shit on this website.

So here is my current situation.

I am getting a lot emails from SA.com and am thinking of meeting a girl named Felicity. She is white, 22 and lives in Midlothian. She has a husband which is kind of weird.

1. Should I get involved with a SB that is married? Or is he her pimp? Honestly, this arrangement is more like an escort arrangement but I am good with that.

2. Has anyone ever heard of Felicity. I have her SA I'd if anyone is interested.

Sorry for sounding like a noob but I am one when it comes to SD / SB. Thanks everyone.

[Showtime2020]

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[Showtime2020]

Gentlemen as many others before me have said thank you. Hollywood Guy, Reevo, Big Tigger and the rest I've read countless posts and have learned a ton. This year was a huge step for me I went from AMP's to BP girls to TER babes only to realize all I needed to do in order to be really satisfied was to step into the Bowl. I opened my SA acct on Sunday and sent 20 emails, that night I began chatting with 2 POTs right then but the next morning I began texting and speaking with 10 girls. I learned something very quickly most of the college aged girls 18-21 have a unrealistic expectation of what their time is worth they'll have $250 + expectations and a hotel, I'm like heck no, but a girl in her mid 20's with rent to pay understands the value of a couple hundred bucks. By the end of the week I've had 4.

[Rob Taylor]

I went on the SA Blog recently and was gagging after a few days. It is full of GPS SBs and pompous guys.I recommend against it. One frequent male poster apparently opined that the average Sugar need for a college baby is $3-4000 and that those who offer less are cheapskates and blue collar wannabes. Jumpin' Jehosephat! The girls all expect monthly salaries paid in advance. Entitlement is all around LOL.

In every market there is a high end, mid level and low end. In the escort market the low end is Backpage and or street workers.

The high end are high priced girls from agencies or erosguide and TER. These girls often look better naturally or by cosmetic effort are on time.

And less prone to P.S.ycho drama (cash and dash, pimps etc).

The SB market has a high end as well the girls on those blogs are most likely working class or middle class.

Woman with either decent income from parents or a pink collar / low level white collar, which gives them enough money to cover the basics.

But they want luxury items. These girls run about 1-3 k a month, and maybe about 2-4 k a month in places like NY (if they are super hott).

The guys on this forum are probably dealing with lower end to mid market girls, who don't always have enough.

Money to cover basics which is why you hear so many""My SB is about to get evicted stories"" each market has its customers.

These girls go for about 150-250 per meet.

There are alot of guys on this thread who would never see a street walker, but SW's are a way of life for some other guys.

To each his own.

[BikeRider]

I am jealous of the SDs out there whose SBs are already bi-experienced and can dig up the occasional third party. But what is a desperate SD to do in this situation.

HELP! Comments, suggestions, advice.

ASL.

ASL. The other brothers have said exactly what I would have said. You need to let her find the other woman.

I've had MFF's where I found the 3rd, and MFF's where my partner has found the additional woman. The latter have always been the best. There needs to be chemistry and trust between the women. If there isn't, well things can get ugly. This is especially true if your current partner considers the woman you found to be more desirable than herself.

Finding the proverbial "unicorn" (as bi single women who are willing to play with couples are called) isn't easy. The fastest route probably is to find a UTR girl who is willing. But, remember have your partner vet and approve of her.

Good luck!

BR.

[NUG33]

So, some of you Big Bossmen Daddies have unlimited funds out there, BUT for the rest of us junior daddies still making a living, I came up with an easy budgeting solution for my bowl expenses. I laid out a normal household budget, then figured out how much I could spend on the bowl, outside of normal expenses and savings. Then I setup a separate bank account with local small bank, and put my address as my work address. So no materials ever go to house. Now here's the key...I setup direct deposit for a specific amount out of my bi-weekly paycheck to go directly into the separate account. My SO has no idea and never looks at my paystub (I shred it when I get it). Also, no awkward explanations about large cash withdrawals or purchases on our joint account or CC's purchases to Victoria Secret or anything.

If there's money in the bowl account, have fun. If not, take some time off till you replenish the funds. But have discipline, and never steal from your "normal" account. Now here's the funny thing, if you have a regular sugar baby on allowance, she'll know payday better then you. My ATF RN-student loved payday weekend. Little history, met hot 21 YO white 8/9/10/9 off Craigslist about 8 months ago. She spoiled me for all other babies that have followed. Lived alone and was on my way to work. So I dropped by her place almost every morning and sometimes after work, spent an hour or two waking her and me up, by filling her holes, then headed to work or home. BUT payday was not only when she got her allowance, but we also made it a tradition to go somewhere nice that weekend. Whether to the beach for a night if I could sneak away, or just a really nice dinner and movie. She knew she would get a nice date, and the sex those nights were always extra special, mainly because she was a little tipsy and open-minded. Unfortunately, she recently graduated and moved north to be close to family, and I miss her dearly...

But anyways, I still follow my method. No money in the bowl fund, then wait till next payday. No exceptions. I also use the bowl money for other things I don't want to get asked about, like visits to strip club, etc..

[HollywoodGuy]

First of all, the diversity of the members on this forum is incredible. Someone did a survey not too long ago asking where everyone was located. Seems like every section of the good old US of A was represented. Amazing.

I don't post much in this forum, though have been dabbling in the bowl for about a year and half. Had two great twenty-something SBs for my first experiences. Both had skills that blew (pun intended) my mind. Both were students and as that situation often presents itself with terminal circumstances (graduate and move away, etc) they have left the fold. Last summer I made the acquaintance through SA of a 46 year old MILF. This woman is amazing. She's had kids but through the magic of cesarean, she is as tight as a 26 year old. She's in the midst of a nasty divorce so sometimes the conversations when we are together (about three times a month) slide into that. But I listen (been through one of those myself!) and it helps with the bonding we all seek as opposed to a pro provider. She has a manic sex drive that I find hard (pun intended again) to keep up with. But I please her and she pleases me. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, is off limits to her sexually speaking.

So here's my problem. She has told me that she is very, very bi-curious and wants to explore this with me in a FMF threesome. Yes. There is a God, right!! I've told her that this is every man's fantasy of course. So she is wanting this as much for me as for herself. But where do we find this elusive third party. CL is full of crazies and wackos, the only lesbian night spot in this part of the world is Babe's (those of you who know this area of VA know what that is) but you can only find butch dykes there. I know. Had Sunday brunch there one time years ago with my SO at the time and there was not a fem / girly-girly in sight (which is obviously what we are both looking for).

I am jealous of the SDs out there whose SBs are already bi-experienced and can dig up the occasional third party. But what is a desperate SD to do in this situation.

HELP! Comments, suggestions, advice.

ASL.

The girl always has to pick the girl. And then you"re expected to be grateful. LOL.. When I was young I did a few of these (my first wife was bi). I actually have a pair of roommates that I have done both separately, and once sorta together (made out with one while the other sucked me off). But I am only into one of them, so I am passing on the opportunity.

But good luck on hoping your taste in women is the same as your partners.

[Revvo]

First of all, the diversity of the members on this forum is incredible. Someone did a survey not too long ago asking where everyone was located. Seems like every section of the good old US of A was represented. Amazing.

I don't post much in this forum, though have been dabbling in the bowl for about a year and half. Had two great twenty-something SBs for my first experiences. Both had skills that blew (pun intended) my mind. Both were students and as that situation often presents itself with terminal circumstances (graduate and move away, etc) they have left the fold. Last summer I made the acquaintance through SA of a 46 year old MILF. This woman is amazing. She's had kids but through the magic of cesarean, she is as tight as a 26 year old. She's in the midst of a nasty divorce so sometimes the conversations when we are together (about three times a month) slide into that. But I listen (been through one of those myself!) and it helps with the bonding we all seek as opposed to a pro provider. She has a manic sex drive that I find hard (pun intended again) to keep up with. But I please her and she pleases me. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, is off limits to her sexually speaking.

So here's my problem. She has told me that she is very, very bi-curious and wants to explore this with me in a FMF threesome. Yes. There is a God, right!! I've told her that this is every man's fantasy of course. So she is wanting this as much for me as for herself. But where do we find this elusive third party. CL is full of crazies and wackos, the only lesbian night spot in this part of the world is Babe's (those of you who know this area of VA know what that is) but you can only find butch dykes there. I know. Had Sunday brunch there one time years ago with my SO at the time and there was not a fem / girly-girly in sight (which is obviously what we are both looking for).

I am jealous of the SDs out there whose SBs are already bi-experienced and can dig up the occasional third party. But what is a desperate SD to do in this situation.

HELP! Comments, suggestions, advice.

ASL.

Welcome brother. I am not that experienced in this a area but let me tell you what I have learned from my friends who have done this.

Let your SB do the looking. She will be much more able to put out the right vibe and attract the women.

And still I would craft a good ad on craigslist coming from her again. Then you can screen them together.

Enjoy. And keep writing.

Revvo.

[AllSeasonLv]

First of all, the diversity of the members on this forum is incredible. Someone did a survey not too long ago asking where everyone was located. Seems like every section of the good old US of A was represented. Amazing.

I don't post much in this forum, though have been dabbling in the bowl for about a year and half. Had two great twenty-something SBs for my first experiences. Both had skills that blew (pun intended) my mind. Both were students and as that situation often presents itself with terminal circumstances (graduate and move away, etc) they have left the fold. Last summer I made the acquaintance through SA of a 46 year old MILF. This woman is amazing. She's had kids but through the magic of cesarean, she is as tight as a 26 year old. She's in the midst of a nasty divorce so sometimes the conversations when we are together (about three times a month) slide into that. But I listen (been through one of those myself!) and it helps with the bonding we all seek as opposed to a pro provider. She has a manic sex drive that I find hard (pun intended again) to keep up with. But I please her and she pleases me. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, is off limits to her sexually speaking.

So here's my problem. She has told me that she is very, very bi-curious and wants to explore this with me in a FMF threesome. Yes. There is a God, right!! I've told her that this is every man's fantasy of course. So she is wanting this as much for me as for herself. But where do we find this elusive third party. CL is full of crazies and wackos, the only lesbian night spot in this part of the world is Babe's (those of you who know this area of VA know what that is) but you can only find butch dykes there. I know. Had Sunday brunch there one time years ago with my SO at the time and there was not a fem / girly-girly in sight (which is obviously what we are both looking for).

I am jealous of the SDs out there whose SBs are already bi-experienced and can dig up the occasional third party. But what is a desperate SD to do in this situation.

HELP! Comments, suggestions, advice.

ASL.

[Pats Fan1]

Well SB 2 is gone just like that. Apparently she's a pill head... Damn I'm going to miss her. Cool chick had some fun times and good laughs plus she is 9/9.5 across the board. So back on the hunt for me. I think I'll try SA this time. After Turkey day I'll be on the prowl. I still have SB1. I have had her since April. 3-4 times per month at 125. She is a solid 8 across the board but not as fun and emotionally there as SB2 was. I like settling into 2 girls that are consistently a 1 x per week visit. That works well for me and my schedule. We'll see if I can get there again.