"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[BikeRider]

I haven't posted much because I don't want to jinx what's fallen in my lap (literally).

Back in September, I reported on a POT that was a 10/10/ She's 19, AA, a cheerleader, bi-sexual, and a complete spinner just like HG likes them. The sad part is she's a plane ride away. The great part is I've managed to snag a new client where she lives!

We've now met several times, and she's definitely a 10/10/10. I was pretty amazed at her skills. She's not asking for $ any more. Even better, she's recruiting women to play with us / me. She's already set-up a date for me with one of her friends that's visiting my area, and we're playing with her blonde (also a young spinner) BFF when I visit.

The only costs are wine and dine although I suspect a corporate apartment is on the horizon.

I'm still keeping my bench, but brothers right now I'm in heaven. I'll focus on this one and her friends until I either die of a stroke, or they get tired of me.

[BikeRider]

So my new little Hottie referenced below. Is now my new little sugar baby. This is truly a lesson in probability. If I had to go through the SD site and find a POT that was not going to be getting fucked by me this would be her. She has gone from 5% to 100% in about 3 1/2 weeks.

...

Revvo.

Well done brother!

Paralyze RESISTANCE with persistence.

Woody Hayes.

[BigTigger]

Great Report, keep up the good work Revvo!

So my new little Hottie referenced below. Is now my new little sugar baby. This is truly a lesson in probability. If I had to go through the SD site and find a POT that was not going to be getting fucked by me this would be her. She has gone from 5% to 100% in about 3 1/2 weeks.

Reasons for not probable:

1. She is real hot.

2. Profile had a bad attitude.

3. She was demanding in her profile.

4. She wanted a lot of money.

5. She wanted an allowance right off the bat.

But I worked it with no expectations. And gave it very much a devil may care attitude. See story below. And today he shoots and he scores. So the good the bad and the ugly.

The ugly is she has a temper and is defensive. But on the other hand she is not mean or dishonest.

The bad. She is hurting for money and this always can be a potential problem. And she is hot. And you know my theory on hot women. She is a 9.5/9/8/9 .

The good. She fucks like a maniac, she is loyal, and is honest to a fault.

There is an old saying. And this goes double for women and triple for the babies. Look at what they do and not at what they say. If I looked at what this one said I would have been gone a long time ago. But her actions are good. She tells the truth. She does not try to work me. She trusts me such as leaving her purse in my hotel room. She fucks me well and with enthusiasm. So the story.

We met today. For breakfast since she could not meet in the afternoon. I kept my hotel from last night where I had fucked my little Colombian princess. So I saved myself on hotel costs. Nice 3 star hotel. With free parking and no resort fees for $62 divided by two visits. That is good. She had a little fender bender before coming to meet me so she was in a bad mood. In fact when we met I thought I might just leave her at the restaurant right here. I even told her so. This is the angry attitude. But I recognized her stress and just let it be. Then she cooled off and things got better. Slowly.

We went back to my hotel. And she was very nervous. She never had done anything like this before. (true amateur), and she had not had sex in a long time. (fresh) And she had never had sex with a man after only one meeting (very fresh). I was liking her more and more. So we finally get down to it. And things get really good. She is a great kisser. And that bodes well for the rest of it. She is not only submissive, but she is eager and anxious to get my dick out and start massaging it. I am taking my time and trying to get her good and ready but she is moving forward fast.

Now I have a theory on this. I believe these women are used to getting rushed and someone putting their dick in them before they are ready. And they think that is the way it is supposed to happen. If you can get them to slow down to the pace that a woman's body needs then the experience can get better. She had my cock in her mouth before I could say no. And was sucking it for all it was worth. And it was awesome. In fact I had to stop her to keep from exploding in her mouth. Because I wanted to fuck her also. Then I went down on her and licked that beautiful little pussy for all it was worth. And in no time she went from quiet and non expressive to very very expressive.

In fact she was wiggling around like a worm. And she got really really loud. So loud that I was worried she was going to alert the maid outside. That pussy got good and wet and by this time she was begging me to fuck her. And boys when I say tight I mean tight. I had to go in so fucking slow. Then when I was in the pounding began. And we both came her for the 2nd or third time.

This pussy was so tight, I could literally feel it grabbing onto my dick. That felt so fucking good. Then finally when I pulled out her little tight pussy held onto the end of the rubber like it was pinched. And pulled it off my dick. This has never happened even with my little girl next door. Who is really tight. It was great. So fucking great.

We have a winner my brothers. I am checking a lot of boxes off with this one. She is trustworthy. Honest. Loyal. Sexy. Beautiful. And fucks and sucks well.

This is coming at a good moment. Because my little girl next door is not showing much love. She has that strange disease allowance itus. Where once they start getting the allowance they are hard to locate. We will see. She has a lot of health problems and phone problems. But I am ready to cut her loose at this moment. But someone has to go. It may be her.

And I already had to let my MILF sweetheart POT go because she could not deal with me being married. And she is still on a sugar daddy site. For being an intelligent woman she sure is dumb.

Anyway back to my spunky hottie. I am set to meet her next week and it is only 150 per visit. And she is looking for apartments today. So very soon she will have her own place where I can go and fuck her without any hotel costs.

Life is good. At least for now.

Lets be careful out there.

Revvo.

[Revvo]

So my new little Hottie referenced below. Is now my new little sugar baby. This is truly a lesson in probability. If I had to go through the SD site and find a POT that was not going to be getting fucked by me this would be her. She has gone from 5% to 100% in about 3 1/2 weeks.

Reasons for not probable:

1. She is real hot.

2. Profile had a bad attitude.

3. She was demanding in her profile.

4. She wanted a lot of money.

5. She wanted an allowance right off the bat.

But I worked it with no expectations. And gave it very much a devil may care attitude. See story below. And today he shoots and he scores. So the good the bad and the ugly.

The ugly is she has a temper and is defensive. But on the other hand she is not mean or dishonest.

The bad. She is hurting for money and this always can be a potential problem. And she is hot. And you know my theory on hot women. She is a 9.5/9/8/9 .

The good. She fucks like a maniac, she is loyal, and is honest to a fault.

There is an old saying. And this goes double for women and triple for the babies. Look at what they do and not at what they say. If I looked at what this one said I would have been gone a long time ago. But her actions are good. She tells the truth. She does not try to work me. She trusts me such as leaving her purse in my hotel room. She fucks me well and with enthusiasm. So the story.

We met today. For breakfast since she could not meet in the afternoon. I kept my hotel from last night where I had fucked my little Colombian princess. So I saved myself on hotel costs. Nice 3 star hotel. With free parking and no resort fees for $62 divided by two visits. That is good. She had a little fender bender before coming to meet me so she was in a bad mood. In fact when we met I thought I might just leave her at the restaurant right here. I even told her so. This is the angry attitude. But I recognized her stress and just let it be. Then she cooled off and things got better. Slowly.

We went back to my hotel. And she was very nervous. She never had done anything like this before. (true amateur), and she had not had sex in a long time. (fresh) And she had never had sex with a man after only one meeting (very fresh). I was liking her more and more. So we finally get down to it. And things get really good. She is a great kisser. And that bodes well for the rest of it. She is not only submissive, but she is eager and anxious to get my dick out and start massaging it. I am taking my time and trying to get her good and ready but she is moving forward fast.

Now I have a theory on this. I believe these women are used to getting rushed and someone putting their dick in them before they are ready. And they think that is the way it is supposed to happen. If you can get them to slow down to the pace that a woman's body needs then the experience can get better. She had my cock in her mouth before I could say no. And was sucking it for all it was worth. And it was awesome. In fact I had to stop her to keep from exploding in her mouth. Because I wanted to fuck her also. Then I went down on her and licked that beautiful little pussy for all it was worth. And in no time she went from quiet and non expressive to very very expressive.

In fact she was wiggling around like a worm. And she got really really loud. So loud that I was worried she was going to alert the maid outside. That pussy got good and wet and by this time she was begging me to fuck her. And boys when I say tight I mean tight. I had to go in so fucking slow. Then when I was in the pounding began. And we both came her for the 2nd or third time.

This pussy was so tight, I could literally feel it grabbing onto my dick. That felt so fucking good. Then finally when I pulled out her little tight pussy held onto the end of the rubber like it was pinched. And pulled it off my dick. This has never happened even with my little girl next door. Who is really tight. It was great. So fucking great.

We have a winner my brothers. I am checking a lot of boxes off with this one. She is trustworthy. Honest. Loyal. Sexy. Beautiful. And fucks and sucks well.

This is coming at a good moment. Because my little girl next door is not showing much love. She has that strange disease allowance itus. Where once they start getting the allowance they are hard to locate. We will see. She has a lot of health problems and phone problems. But I am ready to cut her loose at this moment. But someone has to go. It may be her.

And I already had to let my MILF sweetheart POT go because she could not deal with me being married. And she is still on a sugar daddy site. For being an intelligent woman she sure is dumb.

Anyway back to my spunky hottie. I am set to meet her next week and it is only 150 per visit. And she is looking for apartments today. So very soon she will have her own place where I can go and fuck her without any hotel costs.

Life is good. At least for now.

Lets be careful out there.

Revvo.

[Revvo]

Not that I'm dumb enough to think they are not talking, but TheAthlete says to leave her alone, if she's not responding, then she's not interested. This entire thing has been weird from the moment I found out that I contacted the other. I did let her know that if she (theAthlete) changes her mind, to let me know. Otherwise, I'm moving on.

(SMH).

Bowling a gutter ball...

BigTigg.

Sorry this happened brother. Once they start this behavior they lose respect for you and then it does not end well.

This has happened to me a few times. And I think I have learned my lesson. But time will tell. I think that a lot of these babies justify it to themselves that since we are cheating on our wives it is ok for them to be douches to us.

I am always looking for ways to test / detect issues of loyalty with a baby. I am having concerns right now with my girl next door baby. Not looking good.

And we have a good history together.

Worried in Fla.

Revvo.

[Revvo]

Thanks for the welcome and words of wisdom from Revvo (my personal hero) Fred & J. Per your guys words, I have three flaws I'm working on. Setting expectations, working on my "game", and building my stable. Women always say I'm very good looking, but I was the skinny nerd in HS, and while I got bigger in military, never worked on my game. I was always the nice guy they wanted to date / marry after fucking you sugar daddies and fast talking jocks out there.

Which brings me to yesterday. I booked stripper lady for a quick car date, when spinner NA sends me text. I played it cool and replied hours later with quick text. She apologized for attitude over weekend, and wanted to see me. I set expectations, my sugar and her sugar, and setup meet for later. Had to cancel other date and she was sad, but I'll make it up to her. So I picked up NA, and pounded all three holes for two hours. She apologized again, said she was dealing with personal stuff but was happy with my gift, and everyone went home happy. Guys, this girl has the tightest and sweetest smelling pussy I ever had. Thinking I might hit it again tonight, if available.

My hope is that I continue to grow in the game as I post my experiences and learn from the masters. Thanks!

Nug my brother. That is how you do it! Awesome. Now you are getting the pussy (and the ass and the mouth) and at your price and with the right attitude.

Keep them happy and be good to them. But don't take any shit from them. They will not only like this. They will be turned on by it. The minute you become a "nice guy" they loose their attraction for you. And that is like kryptonite to the pussy.

Keep up the good work. And keep reporting.

Revvo.

[BigTigger]

My goal would be to get the goodies at least twice. Or get my money back (since she offerred). Both of which seem like a very very slim possibility.
BigTigg.

Not that I'm dumb enough to think they are not talking, but TheAthlete says to leave her alone, if she's not responding, then she's not interested. This entire thing has been weird from the moment I found out that I contacted the other. I did let her know that if she (theAthlete) changes her mind, to let me know. Otherwise, I'm moving on.

(SMH).

Bowling a gutter ball...

BigTigg.

[BigTigger]

Revvo and BT, you guys are banging it and are an inspiration to us all. I don't know how you keep it all straight (and afford it) .

I've been there before and it is difficult keeping them all paid and happy. This reminds me of a story about the pet monkey who saw this bowl of treats on the bench near his cage. The bowl had a narrow neck and as he dug in and ate he got even hungrier, so he got even bigger handfuls of candy making him even hungrier. It was never enough to sate him so he grabbed even bigger fistfuls of treats until finally he was unable to open his hand to let go of enough treats to get his hand out. Hours went by until his master came in to break the jar and get his hand out, but not in time to prevent the damage to his hand. So the end of the story is that he had to jack off with his other hand for a month until his wounds healed lololol. Anyway, when is too much?? I wish I knew. I know I want more than I have now.

I really am trying so hard to scale back. Problem is...even money-wise, I have a few that don't care about that. I feel so obligated to dick-them-down, LOL. Me and my ego. I am learning, that unless you completely jack up the relationship, they will in most cases be there for a good screwing.

MsLilMama hit me up today after being gone for 2 to 3 weeks. No apologies, no explaining, just "Hey things are better for me now, when can I see you?" I really should not indulge, but knowing me...I will and I've already told her "next week" (smh).

MsThickness hit me up yesterday asking to meet. Both of these I was completely ignoring.

BT.

[BigTigger]

Thanks for the welcome and words of wisdom from Revvo (my personal hero) Fred & J. Per your guys words, I have three flaws I'm working on. Setting expectations, working on my "game", and building my stable. Women always say I'm very good looking, but I was the skinny nerd in HS, and while I got bigger in military, never worked on my game. I was always the nice guy they wanted to date / marry after fucking you sugar daddies and fast talking jocks out there.

Which brings me to yesterday. I booked stripper lady for a quick car date, when spinner NA sends me text. I played it cool and replied hours later with quick text. She apologized for attitude over weekend, and wanted to see me. I set expectations, my sugar and her sugar, and setup meet for later. Had to cancel other date and she was sad, but I'll make it up to her. So I picked up NA, and pounded all three holes for two hours. She apologized again, said she was dealing with personal stuff but was happy with my gift, and everyone went home happy. Guys, this girl has the tightest and sweetest smelling pussy I ever had. Thinking I might hit it again tonight, if available.

My hope is that I continue to grow in the game as I post my experiences and learn from the masters. Thanks!

Good Work. Sometimes when they know you don't "need" it, then they are more inclined to "give" it!

You set a good standard and now you have the goodies and the price you want. Plus she feels bad, which means she'll always be trying to make it up to you!

Sweet Deal...welcum to the club.

BT.

[NUG33]

So I've had this funny day dream that I thought you gentlemen would get a good laugh from. Many of you out there are company owners or senior management. I'm personally in middle management for small privately owned Company. Co owned by multiple partners, but one main managing guy (Mr Big Boss man). He is older guy but good locking for 60, with trophy wife, and tons of money. In fact, company owns condo in downtown used for customers and big vendors, right in heart of young tight pussy metropolis. I'm 99% sure, other than his trophy wife, he has at least 2-10 HYG he supports and takes to condo often.

So my day dream...I walk into Mr Big Boss man office and sit down. I explain to him I need a raise of at least $1000-2000 a month. He responds, Nug why? You make good money as is. Well sir, I have me, my wife, and of course the 2.5 kids, the dog, and right now 2 sugar babies. But sir, if you gave me a raise, I could support at least another 2 or 3 sugar babies in desperate need of my dick and financial support. Please sir, for the HYG, they need me...Mr Boss man responds, NUG I have this problem too, and can sympathetize. Ok, your approved. Go forth and do your part to support these young ladies. NUG-Thank you sir!!

The following was a day dream, but might someday happen if I had enough alcohol and another job lined up. Thought this might get a couple laughs from the guys in my position and the Big Bossmen out there.

[BigTigger]

So just another example of being too soft and falling for the sob stories combined with the flakiness of younger babies.

Roommate and Athlete were about to get evicted. I gave $225 to avoid that scenario. This was a Monday. We had a Tiggabounced scheduled for that Thursday.

She failed a test in school that Tuesday and was in danger of not graduating. She then went almost complete radio silence since that time. I have gotten some updates via the Athlete, but the roommate has been very weird and non responsive. She did mention that Thursday would have been the last date for 2 weeks until she finished school. What she failed to mention is that she would not even say "good morning", during that time.

As of now, I'm counting that money as a loss and shaking my head at myself once again. I thought it was a scam, but emailing with theAthlete, she assured me it wasn't. Seems that this young lady can just be flaky in life and not the best communicator. I have monitored her login activity and she's not logged in to the site in over 2 weeks. So although it's not a scam, it was still a waste of money on my part. I will check in with her on occasion. My goal would be to get the goodies at least twice. Or get my money back (since she offerred). Both of which seem like a very very slim possibility.

It was very tricky, having two dates with a young hottie, who is about to get evicted because her roommate didn't cover her portion. Trying to get her to the Tiggabounce when she's completely stressed out about the money, her upcoming test, some drama her roommate was causing, etc. If I did not give the money, I pretty much needed to walk away from getting the booty. She didn't say that, but the situation dictated that. So I took the chance and at this point I'm wishing I would have walked away. But she was stacked and the little head just won over the big head.

Other Important Lesson
MsSlilmCheerleader was the backup. Met with her on that Thursday, did the shopping thing for my TiggaPad and she sucked my dry since she was on her period.

BigTigg.

[NUG33]

Thanks for the welcome and words of wisdom from Revvo (my personal hero) Fred & J. Per your guys words, I have three flaws I'm working on. Setting expectations, working on my "game", and building my stable. Women always say I'm very good looking, but I was the skinny nerd in HS, and while I got bigger in military, never worked on my game. I was always the nice guy they wanted to date / marry after fucking you sugar daddies and fast talking jocks out there.

Which brings me to yesterday. I booked stripper lady for a quick car date, when spinner NA sends me text. I played it cool and replied hours later with quick text. She apologized for attitude over weekend, and wanted to see me. I set expectations, my sugar and her sugar, and setup meet for later. Had to cancel other date and she was sad, but I'll make it up to her. So I picked up NA, and pounded all three holes for two hours. She apologized again, said she was dealing with personal stuff but was happy with my gift, and everyone went home happy. Guys, this girl has the tightest and sweetest smelling pussy I ever had. Thinking I might hit it again tonight, if available.

My hope is that I continue to grow in the game as I post my experiences and learn from the masters. Thanks!

[HollywoodGuy]

I went on the SA Blog recently and was gagging after a few days. It is full of GPS SBs and pompous guys.I recommend against it. One frequent male poster apparently opined that the average Sugar need for a college baby is $3-4000 and that those who offer less are cheapskates and blue collar wannabes. Jumpin' Jehosephat! The girls all expect monthly salaries paid in advance. Entitlement is all around LOL.

Also those blogs are filled with ringers to pump up the volume so to speak.

[Revvo]

First off, I want to say thanks to all the senior members and veterans that created this great thread for us guys later to follow and learn from. The bowl is a frustrating, yet wonderful adventure. Its awesome learning and taking my game to next level. Which is why I'm posting, I left and stopped using the pros a while ago, and switched to utr and non-pros, largely due to this thread.

So my first experience in the bowl was an ex-stripper who was still beautiful. She was actually a couple years older than me (I'm in late 30's). She would do any nasty thing I wanted, and sometimes shit I didn't want, she is still around, but I transitioned to the younger girls. And here is where I need help. Getting these girls to accept lower funds and stop acting like GPS. Like this weekend.

So I meet this cute little native american on craigslist last week. She responded to SD ad. Definite non-pro 7.5/9/9/8 nice cute spinner body, just my type. So we do MG Thursday, and I get tricked into dropping $200 at her favorite shopping place. Was thinking with little head. Thought I was going to get something in return, got a little play and head, but promised the world at FC next day. So Friday comes along, I grab nice hotel on beach for cheap, using hh points, pick up baby, and fun begins. Guys, I was 19 again I hit that at least 5-6 times, she was sore bad by morning. Thats the great part.

Bad. So I dropped $200 night before, bought alcohol for hotel room, and gave her $100 cash afterwards. She wasn't happy. She also spent night when not having sex, asking if I can buy this or that for her the next week. Well after my cash gift, she got pissed and wanted more. I told her no, you'll get more during next visit, I spent enough total on this one. She was NOT happy, I dropped her off and haven't talked with her since.

So I guess my question to you veterans and what I need to work on, is how I can find and attract quality baby material that's happy with what I think is a decent donation. So many girls want me to support them, and I try to explain I'm there to supplement their income.

Sorry if my first post is so long. Lots more fun stories to come. Enjoyed everyone else's stories so much, I have to give back. Thanks!

Welcome to the brotherhood and thanks for writing. Sounds like you had fun. First off don't beat yourself up. You had a hot young piece of ass and you were fixated on it. It happens. Its part of the learning experience and yours did not cost that much. My first SB was beautiful she was a 9/8/7/9 but she was a stripper she was expensive and she was a bit of a mess. I was paying 400 for the visit, 90 for hotel, 80 for meal, and at least 50 for drinks, she drank a lot and the good stuff. So you can see it was killing me. Now I rarely pay more than 150 and some I pay nothing.

But you have to look. And be patient. They are out there. In my area SA is full of pros, scammers, and GPS. So I prefer SDforme. It is a bit more direct. Also you have get off of fixating on one POT that will get you into the scarcity mentality. The key to this is abundance mentality. That will get you thinking more frugally. If you have some really hot piece of ass and it is the only thing in the world you want you will spend lots more. If you have two or three and a couple of POTs waiting for a landing slot. Your attitude is much much different. Look at my story below about the model that I am scheduled in the FC on Thursday for 150. She wanted 1500 allowance at first but that is now out the window. But my attitude was polite, firm, considerate, fun, and don't really need it. In fact I could take it or leave it. I stressed this to her a few times over a period of about three weeks. And it worked. And sometimes nothing works.

Get really used to rejection. I always state what I am looking for and it is a quality experience. I did a M&G with my very very hot Bisexual MILF POT about two weeks ago. I give her a 8/10/9/? . And I asked her outright keeping in mind that she used to be married to a millionaire and now has nothing. I asked her. What are you looking for. Her words were, a man of substance, that knows how to treat a woman, and no craziness and no drama. That was perfect. I then stressed to her that I am not rich. I do well but I am not rich. She emphatically told me that she is not looking for that.

In my mind I was jumping for joy. Here I have a really hot woman, that is not looking for a ton of money and she just wants to have fun. Now she is going through some shit and I may not be able to see her for several weeks. But that is ok. I am patient and just bide my time. Besides I have three others I have to service on a regular basis in the meantime.

Finally the age thing is big. The really young ones do not know what the fuck they want most of the time. They are clueless and expect some easy money. I think that our society and the Porn culture hugely overvalues physical beauty and youth. Tell me when you are fucking a woman, how well can you really see her anyway? Don't get me wrong I like good looking women. But the best experiences I have ever had were with women over 25 and many over 35. And I am talking about blow your mind off the charts sex and connection. Remember a quality experience.

So careful what you go after. The really young ones can screw up your perspective. Also I know it sounds crazy but stop watching porn and concentrate on the real thing. It is so much better. I quit watching it 18 months ago and do not miss it at all.

And keep writing. I love it.

Revvo.

[FredMoore]

I went on the SA Blog recently and was gagging after a few days. It is full of GPS SBs and pompous guys.I recommend against it. One frequent male poster apparently opined that the average Sugar need for a college baby is $3-4000 and that those who offer less are cheapskates and blue collar wannabes. Jumpin' Jehosephat! The girls all expect monthly salaries paid in advance. Entitlement is all around LOL.