"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**HollywoodGuy** · 11-17-13 22:54

Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]

After sitting through a horrible vanilla first date experience (vanilla meaning no explicit expectation of payment in return for pussy)...I just got a stark reminder that different payment methods are required depending upon the type of woman that is selling the pussy. It is never free.

I post the following question:

Is pussy the most valuable thing a woman owns?

A old friend of mine (now dead). Who was a gay gigolo that only married women for their money. And who at one time owned the largest home in Beverly Hills told me. "Taking money for sex was easy and usually low paying. But taking money without it was the true test of a pros worth." So to answer your question, the answer is no. And its obvious to me every time I see some nasty fugly old babe in BH with her loser rich husband. The smart ones know how to work it. The other persons emotions that is.

So the ability to play on ones emotions is far more valuable than pussy. All those knock out 10's that have been hitting me up this weekend for 4 and 5 benji's aren't living in Beverly Hills. The moral of the story. Keep it cool.

**SubCmdr** · 11-17-13 21:41

After sitting through a horrible vanilla first date experience (vanilla meaning no explicit expectation of payment in return for pussy)...I just got a stark reminder that different payment methods are required depending upon the type of woman that is selling the pussy. It is never free.

I post the following question:

Is pussy the most valuable thing a woman owns?

**HollywoodGuy** · 11-17-13 16:38

Originally Posted by Dsprdo [View Original Post]

So, HG, your follow up is asking "what was it that caused you to turn me down? Restating your offer and then going from ther? Or are you just saying, hey, I'm still here and interested?

I just mention that they turned me down in the past. But I am still interested. And could they please tell me what they are looking for. If it looks promising then I restate my offer in the next message.

**Dsprdo** · 11-17-13 16:29

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

But I haven't seen this much response since I stopped messaging the obvious pros earlier in the year. And maybe some of them are UTR. But at $ a meet who really cares? All 18 - 22 and fine.

So, HG, your follow up is asking "what was it that caused you to turn me down? Restating your offer and then going from ther? Or are you just saying, hey, I'm still here and interested?

**HollywoodGuy** · 11-17-13 16:02

But I haven't seen this much response since I stopped messaging the obvious pros earlier in the year. And maybe some of them are UTR. But at $ a meet who really cares? All 18 - 22 and fine.

**HollywoodGuy** · 11-17-13 14:41

My follow up letters have me swamped with interested girls. Many loose interest after they remember why they turned me down in the first place. But the others after having been worn down a bit by the realities of the sd sites are coming to their senses. These are all hotties. Nothing second rate. There are a lot of fake sd's out there. Or one niter dudes that don't really feel the needs of a true sb.

So go back and re-message all the girls you haven't communicated with in a month or more. Just ask them what they want without offering anything more than a sympathetic ear. If they come back GPS just ignore them. Don't negotiate. If they ask what can you do for them, stick to your original offer. I am being inundated with eager girls.

**HollywoodGuy** · 11-17-13 05:36

So after getting flaked on by the 19 year old 9/9 hottie earlier in the day I took a M&G from another girl that responded to my follow up letter.

I had already scheduled an evening date with a different (third girl) who I then rescheduled for Sunday.

So anyway I went to meet this 18 year old college student who I picked up from her dorm and went straight back to the FC for a 40 minute BBBJ. She would have gone another 20 minutes if I let her. Paid the usual $. She was an AA 7/9/9/8 (really a 7 but adding a point for duration) spinner (pictured). I told her if she couldn't fuck me on the next date there wouldn't be one ... So we will see, as she was uncertain of her feelings about that.

Her winning personality kept me rock hard the whole time as she was happy to do whatever I asked until the end. It was a little frustrating as I was horny as hell and really wanted to fuck.

So after only one day of follow up letters I had about 6 girls respond. 4 were GPS, but the other 2 were down. So I did the one and I am going to meet the other one tomorrow afternoon before she goes to work. (she looks to be about an 8/8).

**Revvo** · 11-16-13 22:20

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

I have definitely gotten very picky on photos myself. If there is no very clear pic of the face and another one of a head to toe shot I always request that before getting too carried away. Been burned more than once.

I can't tell you how many totally fat or just plain ugly POTs I have met and even fucked a few. Just do not settle for incomplete pics. If they refuse or blow you off there is your answer.

Revvo.

**HollywoodGuy** · 11-16-13 21:06

Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]

I agree with HG. In my into letter I request that they SEND me a Face Shot and a full length shot. Only time I've ever been burned is when I ignore my own rules. After receiving the photos...when they sit for their chemistry exam...it's never looks.

Still hitting them like I hit my tennis shots: "Hard and Deep".

Booyao!

Speaking of rules. I negotiated a $$ hottie down to $. Went to go meet her and she flaked. Said she got cold feet one block from the meet. Meet # 2 tonite.

**SubCmdr** · 11-16-13 18:00

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

I have definitely gotten very picky on photos myself. If there is no very clear pic of the face and another one of a head to toe shot I always request that before getting too carried away. Been burned more than once.

I agree with HG. In my into letter I request that they SEND me a Face Shot and a full length shot. Only time I've ever been burned is when I ignore my own rules. After receiving the photos...when they sit for their chemistry exam...it's never looks.

Still hitting them like I hit my tennis shots: "Hard and Deep".

Booyao!

**HollywoodGuy** · 11-16-13 02:37

After reading my own post about things getting tight I started to review my own MO about meeting girls online. What I normally do is just send my intro letter and that's it. If they don't respond it's over.

But I have narrowed my search to such a tight demographic (18 to 22, AA or mixed spinners, at least an 8/8 or better) that even in L.A. There are a limited number of girls to choose from. So I started sending follow up letters to my turn downs to meta question them about what they wanted and why did they turn me down.

To me a legitimate turn down could be for lack of sufficient funds on my part, that they are not attracted to me, or they think I am too promiscuous. All legitimate concerns.

So I re-messaged a few true hotties. I have gotten a few responses. And yes, some wanted far more than I could give. But so far it's mostly come down to their being overwhelmed with responses when they first signed up to the site.

Once they had a chance to filter through that and understand what I was proposing it all made more sense. So I have 2 m&g's for Saturday so far.

**BigTigger** · 11-15-13 23:05

Originally Posted by Spitfire [View Original Post]

So you haven't met them in person yet, but you've already scheduled an overnight?

I have plenty of photos, including full body pics. We've talked daily, texted and email daily. The first date is not a hotel date. The second one is scheduled for overnight, assuming the first goes as planned.

BT.

**BigTigger** · 11-15-13 23:04

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

If I am reading your posts correctly, you mean the booby call list.

This girl has been on and off the site for months. I see she moved from the L.A. Area down to san diego county.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profi...rnia-SugarBaby

I,m a slender guy and I like spinners, but I bet this is more the type that gets all the attention from most of you guys.

Actually most of the booty call list has small boobs. MsBigRed had big ones, but she has big but and belly too, lol...
BT.

**HollywoodGuy** · 11-15-13 13:59

Originally Posted by Spitfire [View Original Post]

I'm sure, but I meant he might be disappointed in their true appearance. Photos can be deceiving and he may not like them in person.

I have definitely gotten very picky on photos myself. If there is no very clear pic of the face and another one of a head to toe shot I always request that before getting too carried away. Been burned more than once.