"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**HollywoodGuy** · 07-29-13 01:02

Originally Posted by Hernando [View Original Post]

How about a Phillipina manage my sexual needs? $ 1 / hr sounds pretty daggone good!

My live in Pinay does OK by me. LMFAO. But seriously. I have managed a few SB's accounts. Great insight. If those guys knew they were messaging me I don't think they would have been too happy. Hope it was none of you. Not likely as I live in L. A.

UPDATE

This month I stuck to my 3 SB's like glue.

MILF. All we do is fuck. So not much to talk about. Been together almost 2 years.

Live In. Pinay Mistress. I,m her personal slave. But we have a lot of fun. 9 months so far but she was talking about moving possibly : (

Teen Stripper. Almost 5 months so far. Today a wannabe pot SD spent $$$$$ on her and got the pleasure of her platonic company. Better him than me.

To comment on the STD discussion. I will admit to being reckless in the past, but it's been a relief knowing I don"t have to be tested right now. I only have safe sex with my live in and the other two are exclusive to me for now.

**Hernando** · 07-29-13 00:34

Originally Posted by Wnde8 [View Original Post]

Does anyone have an assistant "manage" their sugar babies? (onsite / email / SMS). You can find people from the Philippines to work part time for $1 an hour; we use them at our company for admin work including customer service, and many people use them as personal assistants too.

How about a Phillipina manage my sexual needs? $ 1 / hr sounds pretty daggone good!

**Wnde8** · 07-28-13 23:19

Does anyone have an assistant "manage" their sugar babies? (onsite / email / SMS). You can find people from the Philippines to work part time for $1 an hour; we use them at our company for admin work including customer service, and many people use them as personal assistants too.

**BikeRider** · 07-28-13 20:37

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Brothers,

I think you all are missing the point, but maybe I'm the one who's not getting it. It is not only the STD one has to worry about, it is the possibility of passing it along to your wife / SO, and what I imagine will be the conversation that starts the End Of The World!

Whether one can live a reasonable life with AIDS or not, or how easy the treatment for these other scary diseases is, how do you tell your wife / children / inlaws / friends / colleagues how you got it? And no one believes it comes from toilet seats, Nando!

In the end, this may just be one of those topics, like politics or religion, where it is best to let things drop. I will continue to play it safe, and I hope never to read a post like Joe's on this thread ever again. Ask him if he would have done things differently and I bet the answer will be a resounding "yes"!

Peace,

Scott

Guys. If you're worried about the risks. Then don't play the game.

Yes condoms reduce the risk of many things, but they aren't 100% effective against HSV-1/2, HPV, and molluscum (not just for kids) etc. If you love DATY or BBBJ, then other STD's come into play as well.

If you're worried about a SO or a spouse, then there is no 100% way to keep them safe. Period. You can do risk management, and using condoms is a significant part of that plan. However, don't think just because you're using condoms your not taking risks.

Also- Plan B is essentially a 'Hail Mary'. Plan B's efficacy is 87. Compare that to withdrawal used effectively at 96% and condoms at 98% and you'll see what I mean. Over the years, I've only had to girl friends (before I was married) have to use Plan B. The first was an incredibly hot Korean MILF in LA who wouldn't agree to a condom. She didn't tell me until after I came that she wasn't on BC. The lesson I learned that night was that you always have the "talk" before going bare.

The talk involves two very important subjects. One. Are you on BC. Two. If you become pregnant will you have an abortion. The answers help me do risk management even though I use condoms.

**F Scott** · 07-28-13 19:05

Originally Posted by Hernando [View Original Post]

HIV and Hepatitis C.

Even nowadays HIV is manageable for a normal lifespan (see Magic Johnson) Hep B and C can become chronic and destroy your liver (death) but has successful therapies if diagnosed quickly.

ALL others are totally treatable and manageable. So you get Herpes? Cry me a river. I know bringing home an STD is hard to explain to the SO. You might prepare an explanation to give the SO if you get one (like oooh, my cubicle mate was using the same toilet I use and came down with all the STDs. Honey, should I take antibiotics to be safe?)

Herpes = sores for days to a few weeks. Inconvenient but not life threatening.

HPV (warts) = bumps that are treatable

HPV (carcinogenic) oral and pharyngeal cancers due to the virus (see Michael Douglas 'pubic service announcement) Yes, scary but get regular dental and oral checkups and don't do oral sex hahaha Seriously, dental dams might help but if you think condoms are a downer,

Gonorrhea =antibiotic shot and pill for one day

Chlamydia =antibiotic for a day.

Syphilis= rare but Penicillin shot.

Trichomonas = antibiotics for a day

Brothers,

I think you all are missing the point, but maybe I'm the one who's not getting it. It is not only the STD one has to worry about, it is the possibility of passing it along to your wife / SO, and what I imagine will be the conversation that starts the End Of The World!

Whether one can live a reasonable life with AIDS or not, or how easy the treatment for these other scary diseases is, how do you tell your wife / children / inlaws / friends / colleagues how you got it? And no one believes it comes from toilet seats, Nando!

In the end, this may just be one of those topics, like politics or religion, where it is best to let things drop. I will continue to play it safe, and I hope never to read a post like Joe's on this thread ever again. Ask him if he would have done things differently and I bet the answer will be a resounding "yes"!

Peace,

Scott

**ChiGuy606** · 07-28-13 18:57

Originally Posted by Hernando [View Original Post]

So you get Herpes? Cry me a river. I know bringing home an STD is hard to explain to the SO. You might prepare an explanation to give the SO if you get one (like oooh, my cubicle mate was using the same toilet I use and came down with all the STDs. Honey, should I take antibiotics to be safe?)

Nandoman,

To each his own, but if I were a non-married player in this game my attitudes would probably be a lot different.

As it stands, the thought of bringing home 'the gift that keeps on giving' to my SO, especially considering she is an UNWILLING PARTICIPANT in my activites is a moral-line I just cannot cross.

I honestly do not think there is any excuse I can come up with as to why Mr Happy is covered in infectious sores that she'd buy. And even if she did believe whatever I told her, no excuse would make good the fact that she may have been exposed as well (assuming of course one does actually get sex at home. Miracles are known to happen!).

**Hernando** · 07-28-13 18:31

HIV and Hepatitis C.

Even nowadays HIV is manageable for a normal lifespan (see Magic Johnson) Hep B and C can become chronic and destroy your liver (death) but has successful therapies if diagnosed quickly.

ALL others are totally treatable and manageable. So you get Herpes? Cry me a river. I know bringing home an STD is hard to explain to the SO. You might prepare an explanation to give the SO if you get one (like oooh, my cubicle mate was using the same toilet I use and came down with all the STDs. Honey, should I take antibiotics to be safe?)

Herpes = sores for days to a few weeks. Inconvenient but not life threatening.

HPV (warts) = bumps that are treatable

HPV (carcinogenic) oral and pharyngeal cancers due to the virus (see Michael Douglas 'pubic service announcement) Yes, scary but get regular dental and oral checkups and don't do oral sex hahaha Seriously, dental dams might help but if you think condoms are a downer,

Gonorrhea =antibiotic shot and pill for one day

Chlamydia =antibiotic for a day

Syphilis= rare but Penicillin shot.

Trichomonas = antibiotics for a day

**ChiGuy606** · 07-28-13 12:27

Just so no one forgets.

Originally Posted by JoesParty [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

I've thought long and hard over the last few days about whether to post this or not, and I eventually decided that maybe my story will do someone else here some good. Maybe it will serve as a wake up call.

I just found out that my 18yo HYB is positive for genital herpes (HSV-2).

I also found out that I have HSV-2 as well.

I won't get into all the details, because they are largely irrelevant. But I will say that I am a smart guy who did some very stupid things. I hope and pray that nobody else is doing the dumb things I've done, or if they are, at least they're doing them knowingly and with full understanding of ALL of the risks.

I last saw HYB almost two weeks ago. We were both feeling a bit under the weather; me with a cold, her with a sore throat. We went to the movies, but one thing led to another, the little head took over all thinking duties, and we ended up at a hotel. To make matters worse, I entered her without a condom. I did not finish, but it is what it is.

Over the next few days, we each felt progressively worse. My doctor did a throat culture, and that's how they found it in me. The pubic bumps and sores appeared shortly thereafter. They gave me an anti-viral medication, which speeds the healing, and I have a follow-up visit tomorrow to discuss long-term therapy.

HYB was oblivious. She says she does not have obvious sores, so they never tested her for it. At my insistence, we did anonymous testing through www.tstd.org Yesterday at a local lab. The results returned today.

I believe HYB contracted it from her other SD, because she finally confessed yesterday that she's been barebacking him for months. By coincidence, I had a negative test on September 13, which leaves only two other potential partners, both of whom I now have little reason to suspect. Plus, I was protected with each of them (aside from oral).

HSV-2 is a virus that has no cure. I will be stuck with this my entire life. It can be suppressed, to varying degrees, and outbreaks controlled with medication. But I always risk passing it on whenever I have unprotected sex. Although the risk of transmission is relatively low when there is no outbreak, the risk remains. The risk is also very low, but again not zero, for unprotected oral.

There is a high likelihood that this one terrible decision will ruin my marriage as well. I am currently working through how and when to tell my wife. I've decided she needs to know soon, as we were considering children in the next year or two. I will be lucky if she even considers keeping me around. (Thanks to the confidential brother who has been guiding me through all this.)

I know that in the interest of brevity I've created many gaps in the story and that you may have questions. I'll be honest in saying that I don't know if I will be able (or will want) to answer them all. You can post them here or PM me. Needless to say, my days in the sugar bowl are done.

All I can say is that I hope this is an eye-opener for some of you.

Regards,

Joe

**John G Smith** · 07-28-13 02:37

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Spartak,

I suppose I will agree to disagree with all you cowboys out there who ride without a saddle, but any buckaroos in the Chicago area, please pm me the profile numbers of your babies so I can steer clear.

I understand your perspective, but I'm not sure what exactly that would accomplish. You think if we bareback a SB in the Chicago area, you're in more danger? Regardless what we do with her, she could very well be barebacking her boyfriend / husband / lover / co-worker. Whether we saddle up or not with a SB, really shouldn't give you any more or less comfort. If you want any real peace of mind just always wear a cover (which you do) and have her tested regularly. Claiming some of us are putting you in danger is naive and misplaced blame. The real risk is from the girl herself. You have to understand her protection habits, her lifestyle, and have her tested. Just because no one has sent you a profile number of a particular SB in Chicago does not make her any less likely to have a STD or not practice BB in her personal life.

**Revvo** · 07-27-13 23:38

Here is one that took me. Won't give out the details because she may be lurking out there. But suffice it to say she is clever and you have been warned.

Profile says NC but she works Florida and appears to be moving around.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page...e&pmid=3505948

Revvo

**F Scott** · 07-27-13 22:44

Spartak,

I certainly understand the issue of risk, and agree that there are levels which we all decide for ourselves we can manage. But this just seems like hubris to me, plain and simple.

Have we so soon forgotten the sad story of our brother Joesparty? In my day, stds were called the gift that keeps on giving, and that seems just as relevant today.

I suppose I will agree to disagree with all you cowboys out there who ride without a saddle, but any buckaroos in the Chicago area, please pm me the profile numbers of your babies so I can steer clear.

Scott

**Spartak** · 07-27-13 22:14

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

In this day and age, bb just seems like a game of Russian Roulette, but with your dick.

I agree. But life is all about choosing a course with varying degrees of risk. And this is exactly why I've chosen the sb / sd route. Certainly a lesser amount of risk here than with an AMP / Stripper / Escort.

**F Scott** · 07-27-13 16:43

In this day and age, bb just seems like a game of Russian Roulette, but with your dick. Same potentially lethal outcome, though.

Just not getting it,

Scott

**HollywoodGuy** · 07-27-13 12:45

Originally Posted by John G Smith [View Original Post]

First off, I am insane.

Secondly, for me the reduced sensation with condoms makes it difficult for me to perform at my best. With condoms, I often have ED issues. I don't know if I'm allergic to latex or what, but for me there is a night and day difference between sex with condoms and sex without. For me, if I'm spending all this time and money on a SB on allowances, gifts, hotels and etc, it's a buzz kill when the actual sex is mediocre / sub-standard because I'm having issues with the condom. I still use condoms but I'm willing to take the risk going bare if the situation and the girl meet certain standards. I really do envy those of you who can have amazing sex with condoms. It would make this lifestyle a lot easier me if I could.

Before I can actually have intercourse with a new baby, we have to have the "talk". I only go BB. If a baby flat out refuses I have to respect that, but then I never see her again. So a number of m&g's end on the first date with oral or a HJ. I provide my current std report and vasectomy proof via email prior to every m&g. As many girls are equally concerned about birth control.