"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[HollywoodGuy]

Almost likewise. Topped only by asking my wife to marry me, and *not* going home early from strip clubbing that one night. The peace of mind it allows can not be undervalued.

/z

In L. A. 80% of girls are having babies without worrying about the dad being there. Especially the young ones. Should have done it years ago, I was worried it would affect my performance. Totally not true. And the pain was manageable. One week bad. Three weeks minor. By week five, nothing.

[ChiGuy606]

My general rule of thumb is if I am with a woman who is (or who used to be) accepting cash / gifts / etc in exchange for sex in any shape or form, no matter how 'ATF-like' she is, I keep it covered. Period. The surgically altered genitalia is my plan-B!

She's also most likely putting out for other guys who are also paying her & you never know what else THOSE guys may be doing on the side. (just read any other forum on this site besides this thread *shudder*).

I'm not saying anything can compare to BB, but there are many advances in condoms in the past few years that are a lot better than they used to be. Try out brands advertised as 'lambskin' or Lifestyles 'SKYN' brand, Trojan 'Bareskin', etc. They are not perfect, but much better than they used to be. Also try putting some lube on first before the condom, that makes it much more pleasurable as well.

Besides condoms + a little vitamin V make me perform like an absolute rockstar, and have turned more than one sugar-baby into a non-sugar fuckbuddy just because I can go so long & make them have multiple O's before I'm done.

[Zomby]

Vasectomy. Best move I ever made

Almost likewise. Topped only by asking my wife to marry me, and *not* going home early from strip clubbing that one night. The peace of mind it allows can not be undervalued.

/z

[HollywoodGuy]

May I suggest surgically altering ones genitalia in order to prevent conception.

Certainly there is a week or so of discomfort involved (coinciding with a few weeks of separation from one's sugar-babies) , however the end result is a lifetime of piece of mind!

(Making a mental note to myself to research masturbatory refractory periods, sounds like a hoot!)

-Chi.

Vasectomy. Best move I ever made

[Hernando]

There is nothing like the sensation of a wet pussy wrapped around your penis. Girls will do anything for money, guys for sex. (some that is)

There are calculated risks in everything worth doing.

Like JG, I pretty much can't get off with a wrapper on after the 1st meet with a SB.

[John G Smith]

Bareback? Just asking, but really? So many issues!

Staggered,

Scott

First off, I am insane.

Secondly, for me the reduced sensation with condoms makes it difficult for me to perform at my best. With condoms, I often have ED issues. I don't know if I'm allergic to latex or what, but for me there is a night and day difference between sex with condoms and sex without. For me, if I'm spending all this time and money on a SB on allowances, gifts, hotels and etc, it's a buzz kill when the actual sex is mediocre / sub-standard because I'm having issues with the condom. I still use condoms but I'm willing to take the risk going bare if the situation and the girl meet certain standards. I really do envy those of you who can have amazing sex with condoms. It would make this lifestyle a lot easier me if I could.

[F Scott]

Bareback?? Just asking, but really? So many issues!!

Staggered,

Scott

[John G Smith]

Re: pregnancy, it is important to know your receiver's attitude towards an unwanted pregnancy. It's better to pay for an abortion than 18 yrs of child support.

This is such great advice. Practitioners of the bare-arts should take note.

With my girlfriend SB, we had a little scare a few months ago. I did everything right on my end (pulled out, peed between rrounds, etc). But she was slightly late with her monthlies which freaked her out (and me too to be honest). During this time I found out any accidents she has, she will keep. I respect a woman's right to choose whatever, but obviously I can't have a little JGS floating out there for 18+ years. If there are any accidents, any SB with me needs to be willing to "end" the accident. Anyway, she wasn't pregnant but it was a pretty stressful situation for both particularly because she was going to keep the result of any accident. It made me realize that I need to find out the girl's philosophy on unwanted pregnancies BEFORE I engage in bare activities. If we share similar attitudes, then I just have to reduce my sugar activities for a month while I pay to end the unwanted pregnancy. If our attitudes are different, then I'm basically prebooking a spot on Maury Povich in a few years.

Question for Revvo. When you had to get the Plan B afterward, did you pull out or finish inside her the night before?

[John G Smith]

If she actually thinks that's effective birth control, her education leaves a lot to be desired. If not, then she could still be trying to trap you. If you believe that's effective birth control, then your education is lacking. Either that or you're letting the little head do your thinking.

The so-call "pre-cum" fluid contains sperm. It's certainly less likely that the lower volume in that fluid will impregnate her, but it's far from impossible.

Actually pulling out when done properly is only about 2% less effective than using a condom to prevent pregnancy. A condom is about 98% effective (when it doesn't break and spew all your sperm inside her) and pulling out is 96% effective. If you don't believe, read the Planned Parenthood site: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/hea...ethod-4218.htm

Yes with pulling out you need good control, but most of us are older and experienced and aren't spontaneously combusting teenagers.

It's just of course pulling out does nothing to protect from STDs, so that's where your real risk is. But as long as you pee betweens rounds, pulling out is very effective for pregnancy prevention and you don't have to worry about condoms getting loose or breaking.

[ChiGuy606]

May I suggest surgically altering ones genitalia in order to prevent conception.

Certainly there is a week or so of discomfort involved (coinciding with a few weeks of separation from one's sugar-babies) , however the end result is a lifetime of piece of mind!

(Making a mental note to myself to research masturbatory refractory periods, sounds like a hoot!)

-Chi.

You are absolutely correct with the risk of precum and the pullout method.

However, in my older years I have an absolute 5 seconds from the first ejaculatory spasm (the point of no return) until the appearance of ANY fluid at the urethral opening. I know you younger guys have 1 sec at best. Masturbation studies demonstrate your refractory period and it's important to know that. It's not foolproof but it's better than nothing.

Re: pregnancy, it is important to know your receiver's attitude towards an unwanted pregnancy. It's better to pay for an abortion than 18 yrs of child support.

[GeorgeRichmond]

Yeah I fucked up this week. Had a sleepover with one of my favorite SB's went bareback for the firsttime. Did not bother to check if she was on birth control. And sure enough she was not. She never even attempted to stop me. This chick really likes me. She is always trying to do things to please me. Will do anything I want. Made me wonder if she was trying to trap me. Very attractive. Thin and very flexible. Physically and emotionally. Then we are talking about it afterward and she tells me that she had an accident before with her ex husband and would not have an abortion. That is where she got her son from.

Amazing you brought this up. It happened on Tuesday. Maybe you guys can learn from another one of my fuckups.

Lets be careful out there.

Revvo

I agree. I was in NJ on business trip and met my SB for 2nd time. She wanted bareback and kept saying don't stop it is ok. I didn't ask why it is but. I decided to do it outside! She is great looking, average but beautiful looking. She could get 9 or 10 if she works on her body. Got hourglass figure and beautiful face, very lively. So I am sold. My problem is, I am getting emotionally attached. And now I know about her a lot. But real problem is she is asking my last name and real info about myself. Well, that is where I am having issues. Can a good SB accept us as SD (with no personal life info?) as-is? I doubt if all can do it specially the ones SBs who are new in this world.

Well be careful. As it is better careful and take precaution than sorry. I would say. Avoid it if you can. I need to learn based on this topic and feedback.

[FredMoore]

"Re: pregnancy, it is important to know your receiver's attitude towards an unwanted pregnancy. It's better to pay for an abortion than 18 yrs of child support." Nando.

Something I think is so bizarre is the SB's frequent lack of foresight in using Birth Control of any kind. This has happened a lot in my Quest. Why would a girl who is trolling for a SD who 99. 99% of the time is going to require sex not protect herself? (That excludes the obvious who is attempting to entrap a SD ). But none of the girls I've seen were desirous of a baby. To with They reacted very negatively when late or irregular.

[Dsprdo]

If you look at my ratings list these girls are all 1's (out of a possible 10). Fantasizing and wasting your time.

I agree. I usually respond to a wink with one email, because you never know, but quickly pulled the plug on these three. I have actually hooked up with one person who winked at me, for a reasonable amount of sugar, but in general it seems that if they are sending out winks to every guy on the site, they are not good prospects.

[Hernando]

If she actually thinks that's effective birth control, her education leaves a lot to be desired. If not, then she could still be trying to trap you. If you believe that's effective birth control, then your education is lacking. Either that or you're letting the little head do your thinking.

The so-call "pre-cum" fluid contains sperm. It's certainly less likely that the lower volume in that fluid will impregnate her, but it's far from impossible.

You are absolutely correct with the risk of precum and the pullout method.

However, in my older years I have an absolute 5 seconds from the first ejaculatory spasm (the point of no return) until the appearance of ANY fluid at the urethral opening. I know you younger guys have 1 sec at best. Masturbation studies demonstrate your refractory period and it's important to know that. It's not foolproof but it's better than nothing.

Re: pregnancy, it is important to know your receiver's attitude towards an unwanted pregnancy. It's better to pay for an abortion than 18 yrs of child support.

[HollywoodGuy]

Today must have been the day that all the crazy girls on SA sent out winks. I got several, and they all were out of their minds. The first lives 2200 miles from me and thought I might be interested in flying her out for a visit. Of course with a substantial amount of Sugar, and oh yeah, no sex. The next was a local, slightly chubby, mixed girl who said she was looking for an ongoing NSA SD. She wanted to get together today. She let me know that for $$$$ she would be willing to provide oral. For 1000, she could be able to see herself actually having sex. The last one was an attractive blond, whose profile said 5-10k per month and no sex right off the bat. I responded just to see what she would say, and she was happy to have drinks tonight for a modest honorarium of $.5. Who is giving these girls these ideas?

If you look at my ratings list these girls are all 1's (out of a possible 10). Fantasizing and wasting your time.