"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[HollywoodGuy]

Pussy is pussy. I like them anyway that they will agree to admit any appendage that they will accept. I prefer not wild and bushy.

I had to laugh. Reminded me of being back in the hippy days when they were all bushy

[HollywoodGuy]

REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO MEETING A TRUE POT SB.

Prefer AA or mixed.
Prefer 18 to 26.
Must be totally shaved.
Must be submissive to start. But will occasionally switch for the right girl later.
Must live within a 45 minutes drive.
Max height 5'5", maybe 5'7' for a real hottie.
Max weight 115.
Must have some similar sexual interests.
Must have a sweet personality and be intelligent
Must be willing to meet for $

REQUIREMENTS FOR A 2ND or 3RD DATE FOR A TRUE POT SB.

Must be an awesome kisser.
Pussy should taste like candy, or clean, or just a hint of that sexy smell that only a black girl has.
Prefer multi orgasmic
Must think I am funny.
Must think I am attractive and tell me.
Must have a willingness to improve her bedroom skills to my specific needs and desires.
Must understand I date multiple girls.
Must be ok with my roommate being home.

REQUIREMENTS TO BE ON ALLOWANCE.

Aside from the above.
Generally the quiet type.
Perfect hair, nails, makeup and attire which have to be approved by me.
Very affectionate and touchy.
The word no is used rarely
Must love cuddling forever.
Must be multi orgasmic and looking to increase on that through regular training
Must think I am handsome and sexy and tell me that constantly.
Must tell me they love me over and over.
Must be exclusive to me.
Have some kind of a life, school, job.
Be willing to allow for my time with others.
No jealousy or bad mouthing of my other girls. EVER.
Must treat my roommate with respect at all times. They don't have to be friends but sometimes they are.
Mostly the stay at home types. I don't go to clubs or bars. That's what her girls are for.
They also never have to cook, clean or do my laundry. In fact I won't let them.

REQUIREMENTS FOR A BOOTY CALL GIRL.

Any race
Any age.
Max weight 135.
Same height requirement.
Must be totally shaved.
Must live within a 45 minutes drive.
Must have some similar sexual interests.
Must be willing to meet for $
Must be willing to get me off one way or another.
Rarely repeat booty call girls. But sometimes I do.
They can be a flat out pro. No problem.
Ghetto no problem.
Nando 1 no problem.
On their period. That's a problem.

FINAL THOUGHTS.

These are only my needs not yours.
I am single and have some flexibility and no need to be discreet.
I am sure I could write more, but this isn't a quarterly report.
I break my own rules from time to time

[TreasureHunter]

How do you prefer your babes?

1. Totally shaved, waxed or laser-ed?

2. Jet strip.

3. Trimmed.

4. Furry.

For me its got to be # 1. I actually query them prior to an interview to make sure and let them know there will be no sexual contact if they do not comply. Most girls in L. A. Are 100% shaved so not too big a deal.

I ask the same question as well prior to meeting. I'm fine with 1 through 3.

[Revvo]

Funny you mentioned this. I just texted my ATF today and told her to make it clean for me.

She is always looking for ways to please me so. It makes her happy also.

Revvo

[FredMoore]

How do you prefer your babes?

1. Totally shaved, waxed or laser-ed?

2. Jet strip.

3. Trimmed.

4. Furry.

For me its got to be # 1. I actually query them prior to an interview to make sure and let them know there will be no sexual contact if they do not comply. Most girls in L. A. Are 100% shaved so not too big a deal.

Pussy is pussy. I like them anyway that they will agree to admit any appendage that they will accept. I prefer not wild and bushy.

[HollywoodGuy]

How do you prefer your babes?

1. Totally shaved, waxed or laser-ed?

2. Jet strip.

3. Trimmed.

4. Furry.

For me its got to be # 1. I actually query them prior to an interview to make sure and let them know there will be no sexual contact if they do not comply. Most girls in L. A. Are 100% shaved so not too big a deal.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hollywood,

Once again great stuff. Quick question.

What do you do to qualify the POTs? Is it a questioning thing? What specific things are you looking for?

Also on the STD report do you redact you personal info?

And you don't think this is too forward?

Thanks again,

Revvo

I will get to the qualifying later. But as to the std report. Yes I redact my last name. And every girl I have given that to has thanked me. Every single one. Plus it puts you onto the topic of sex in a healthy way immediately. And every girl wants to have good clean all american fun. Sugar babes in general are a little kinky. I figure any girl willing to date a guy 35 to 40 years older than her has got sex on the brain automatically.

[Revvo]

Hollywood,

Once again great stuff. Quick question.

What do you do to qualify the POTs? Is it a questioning thing? What specific things are you looking for?

Also on the STD report do you redact you personal info?

And you don't think this is too forward?

Thanks again,

Revvo

[FredMoore]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...g-mistake.html

Rich guys sugar bill. In american dollars thats a $7. 5 million dollar home. Ridiculous.

For a good looking. Not awesome 39 year old with fake tits. And all they did was fight? This is way better.

Perfect example of bad judgement in an otherwise smart as hell Master of the Universe. This man could have any girl he wants and he picks a freak, by his own admission. So we all should not judge ourselves too harshly since most of us are not as well heeled. Emotions are a funny thing and sometimes we can be self destructive.

[HollywoodGuy]

I have been the victim of many flakes since pursuing this little adventure. And it has been a source of great frustration. I am certain that I am not the only one. So to help myself as well as my brothers out.

Hi Revvo. Love your posts. While I do not disagree with this post let's look at it from a slightly different perspective. In the sugar bowl you are a salesperson. You are selling some girl on the idea that your goods are better than the competitors goods. In this post we are only talking about SB's. Not SW's, Strippers or Escorts of any kind.

Sales Call. Any part of the process prior to a Closed Sale.

Closed Sale. An exact time and date has been set for a M & G. This may be a coffee date or a motel date, car date, doesn't matter. Anything short of this is not a closed sale and so no flaking can occur.

Cancellation. The SB makes contact in some form to change the plans of the Closed Sale.

Flaked. The SB did not arrive at the destination at the agreed upon time and place. And there was no official Cancellation. Not even a one word txt.

In approximately 200 M & G's I have never been flaked on once. But I have been deceived about looks or upsold after a meet (another topic) due to poor qualifying. So I consider this a 100% closing rate. The average good sales person will close at 80% to 90%. The over eager sales person will close at 50. What makes the difference?

You send your initial intro letter to 20 pot SB's that are in your league. They are in your league based on comparable looks equality, interest level (personality compatability) or your ability to pay the going rate for the quality of goods and services offered. 7 girls write back to say that you sound interesting and that maybe you can move to the next level of negotiation. Do not over promise and stick to your budget. If you are casting a wide net most likely at least 3 will be slam dunks. At least one out of three will be a true non pro never did this before for real fresh off the farm SB. The other two will be UTR's, pros or seasoned veterans of some type.

Many SB's will answer in some way that may encourage you or say yes to almost any question you ask. It's easier to say yes than to say no. Eliciting a "yes" is not a Closed Sale. It may just be a way to avoid saying no. Many sales people do not pre-screen and pre-qualify enough to have a good close. It's more like a waiter in a Chinese restaurant that doesn't speak english saying yes when you ask if a certain item on the menu is any good. They never say no. Also initial short responses may occur due to txting while driving, being in the company of others, etc. But eventually a real convo must be started. If not just walk away. This is not a flake, just someone who is not interested.

Most girls will do anything to avoid a confrontation with a guy due to prior bad experiences. Not your fault but always keep in mind they are in the bowl because they are not happy about their lives in some way.

After a bit more messaging, txting, etc. You get to the actual live on the phone conversation. At this point you must do 2 things. Create a sense of urgency to meet asap within a take away environment. All decisions are based on emotion coupled with a financial return that equates to the matter at hand for both parties.

Once all this has been established and you feel a date and time has been set you are ALMOST there. Make sure you have an exact itinerary of their schedule for the day in question. Make sure their time is free and clear and only an absolute emergency can change things. Then make them repeat back to you exactly what, when and where they are agreeing to in no uncertain terms.

While this post could go on forever and be far more nuanced I am trying to keep it as short as possible. One more thought. There are 2 main types of guys out there. Hunters and trappers / fishers. I do a little of both. If the hunt does not produce an immediate Closed Sale, then I just set the trap or bait the hook and wait. I just walk away so to speak. I never appear to be over eager if I do not get the immediate desired response. It's much better to appear busy and have lots of choices. Real SD's do not grow on trees. It's supply and demand. I demand and they supply (or not). Either way I could care less. Just present the offer before the girl and let her decide. Don't sound salesy. No bragging, boasting or macho behavior. There is a new girl putting up her profile for the first time as you read this. Get there first, make your pitch, try for the close and walk away if you don't. Then let the call backs begin. Now you are in control.

Obviously this is a very general post and YMMV. Try different intro letters and track your results. Start a spread sheet and keep good notes. Build your pipeline and even make dates YOU may flake on (just cancel by txting). If your pipeline is big enough you could never meet all those girls anyway. But it looks good on your spreadsheet.

One last note. Always ask for a couple of pics (not nudes, just regular pics) and reply with a couple of yours (not bare in any way) along with a current std report and vasectomy report (if you have one). This will increase your closing rate.

[Revvo]

Dang! I hope I didn't end up overpaying. I registered at SA last week and went 2/2 in 48hrs. Average spend was $$.

Give us some details. Tell your story man. Don't leave us hangin.

We always try to help each other out on here. What seemed to work? Describe the babies.

Was it just a quick thing or long term potential?

2 for 2 in 48 hours thats awesome.

Revvo

[BigTigger]

#MsCosmetologist stood me up. She had been the most dependable of the bunch. Suddenly after two dates with the third in line for the TiggaBounce, she stops emailing and texting the day before she was supposed to drive up. Unfortunately because I had already prepaid for the room. I tried to no avail to get use out of it, but the 3 other SBs could not make that kind of move on short notice. I was so surprised by all of this, she's not returned one text since last Thursday. But she is another that smokes weed daily and I was trying to not be so judgmental. But again, the weed smokers have been the most undependable.

FreakyDentalAssitant as settled into her role as booty call friend. She's now sending x-rated videos to keep my attention. Very nice. If she would slim down some, she'd be in the running for my #1.

#MsIntelligentBeauty is having more issues with the University that requires more funds, but I've reached my non-Tiggabounce limit. If she'd move a little faster and give up the goodies, she'd get much more and would have these problems solved. She did finally send me a flirty picture that was very nice. So she's moving along in the right direction.

#MsPartyGirl wants to meet this week, but I can't. Between work and my two new CL finds, I'm not going to have the time.

#CL Finds.

#MsMarriedDeprived. 45 year old AA. Replied to my ad on CL, very nice body, tall (5'9 and then wears heels) and very well kept, sexy curvy body. Does not need any money, wants attention, companionship and a good screwing. We had a great 2 hour date that ended with some serious making out in her car with all body parts being touch by both. We'll probably meet again this week. She's has said that I can get the goodies on the next date.

#MsWhatABody. 27 year old AA. Replied to my ad on CL. She's prefect SB material. Nurse, making it with her own money, just needs a little help. Met her in person and looks better than her pics, moving her up to a "7" in the face department. 9.8 in the body department and 9. 5 in the personality department. It's a long story but we had a really long first date. So long it included two meals, lots of driving and ending with watching the game at her place. She has moved to the top of the list and we'll meet again on Wed.

BigTigg

[Revvo]

I have been the victim of many flakes since pursuing this little adventure. And it has been a source of great frustration. I am certain that I am not the only one. So to help myself as well as my brothers out.

I thought I might put together a little cheat sheet to help with the flaking problem. This is not all inclusive but it has the gist of the issues. Simply look at the characteristics below and select which ones your potential baby has. If she has more than two of these you are looking at t potential flake. If more than three you may want to consider moving on.

1. White and over an 8 on the looks scale.

2. Under 25 YO.

3. Asian and over a 7 on the looks scale.

4. Talked only about herself on the profile, such as spoil me, support me, take care of me, but did not mention what she will do.

5. Only uses one word answers on her responses to you or very short answers.

6. Takes more than an hour to respond to a text.

7. Does not have a job, or is only going to school casually such as not really pursuing a degree or profession.

8. Keeps unusual hours, such as out partying all night.

9. Cannot contribute to conversation. You have to do everything to keep it going.

10. Does not seem to have any outside interests. No passion or goal.

11. Nando 1's.

12. Strippers.

13. There appears to be drama or crisis in her life, such as boyfriend is mean to her, children from more than one father, etc.

14. Only uses one form of communication eg: texting, but will not or cannot talk on phone, or does not use email.

This list is not exhaustive. You may want to add or subtract from this. Because we are talking about women here. And even worse Sugar Babies. They are not going to be easy to nail down. Keep in mind that young beautiful women are being pursued on an almost constant basis. They may get hit on in person 10 or 20 times per day in a busy city where they see a large amount of the public. Then they are being inundated with offers on the SD sites. She may be juggling many men right up until and even after she meets you. Wouldn't you do that if you could? Hell some of us do that already.

Flaking is a part of the game. Just a little list to help deal with it. Kind of. Haha.

Be careful out there.

Revvo

[HollywoodGuy]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...g-mistake.html

Rich guys sugar bill. In american dollars thats a $7. 5 million dollar home. Ridiculous.

For a good looking. Not awesome 39 year old with fake tits. And all they did was fight? This is way better.

[HollywoodGuy]

The money attracts SBs. Of course. But many stay for more than the money. I started with a cute chubby SB who is a very intellectual college student. She was clearly into exploring her kinky side: getting blindfolded and tied up, spanked, teased and pleased. This girl can orgasm and squirt for hours on end to the point where I am totally physically exhausted and need additional help from some handy sex toys. I still give her presents and take her to eat etc. But we are well beyond the more usual arrangement of $ per date. I am the sexual highlight of her week and she is mine and so it goes. Life IS good my brothers

Yeah I wish I was more aware of all this sooner. LOL.