Massage Parlor Reports

**Dirty Old Guy** · 04-12-13 20:43

Shawn,

Thanks, that is helpful info.

Papa,

Don't need to reload. Like you said, as soon as the amount is depleted, I'll just throw it away.

And, it's not a gift card I want, I want the debit card. I found that gift cards, purchased with a credit card, are considered a cash advance, but that a pre-paid debit card is considered a purchase. MUCH higher interest rate with a cash advance.

Thanks for the help, Bud.

Tivo,

Who said anything about using it at an AMP? That's ALWAYS cash.

Thanks guys,

Dirty

**MinoTaurus** · 04-12-13 19:35

I don't get the logic to use a prepaid at an AMP. Why would you use a prepaid card in lieu of cash at an AMP or any place for that matter, where you can physically exchange "currency". Cash is king. Further, using a prepaid card (or any plastic. Whether debit card or credit card) at an AMP just makes their life difficult. They have to pay the transaction fees and of course then funds are "on the books" for tax purposes and finally, it is just a traceable form of proof that a transaction took place. None of these are good for them (nor you).

I can understand using a prepaid card for on-line / internet transactions at "questionable" web sites. I've done precisely this several times to purchase my "wang firming" drugs from an Indian pharmacy online. I don't want my credit card out there exposed to fraud (even though you are still only liable for 50$ max by law I'm pretty sure. Often bank policy is 0$ liability).

Bottom line, use cash locally. Use prepaid card online if you want identity and fraud safety.

**Papa Rotzi** · 04-12-13 19:25

ANY pre-paid brand card, where you load money on it at the register when you are buying the card, are not initially traceable. What happens (usually) is that in order to "reload" the card after the initial purchase / use, you will need to go and "register" the card with your name, address, etc. I know this is a fact if reloading with a check; not sure about if you reload with more cash, but I think that's the case with cash reload as well. I will make a few phone calls and update if there are corrections to the above.

I use cash most of the time and have not ventured into the pre-paid world. I'm just aware of the nuances based on my occupation.

UPDATE: I need to clarify that what you need to buy are Branded (e.g. Visa, M/c, AMEX) GIFT Cards. Those can typically be loaded up with up to $500 and they are used exactly like a credit or debit card. Use them and toss them once depleted. If you by a "Pre-Paid credit card" you will need to register the card BEFORE you can even use it. Check the packaging that the card is secured in to confirm what you are buying - or ask the cashier as you are checking out.

As to WHY you might use one? Many folks do not like to walk around with that much cash in their pockets all the time; especially if you have a nosey spouse. A Visa card doesn't display how much is available, but $500 in cash sitting on the dresser might create a few questions.

Originally Posted by Dirty Old Guy [View Original Post]

Papa,

Do you know which are the "generic","untraceable" brands of pre-paid cards?

Thanks,

Dirty

**NumberOnePerve** · 04-12-13 18:00

Originally Posted by Papa Rotzi [View Original Post]

This is no harder for LE to do on a registered pre-paid card than with a normal credit card. After all these are still co-branded Visa, Mastercard and AMEX cards. Very easy to grab personal info (if it's there, because you registered it so you can do reloads). And then LE drops by your home or office. The card / account gives up the reloads AND also ALL of the transactions: Where, When, How much. Same as a credit card. The ONLY way to avoid this data trail is to toss a pre-paid after it's initial load is used up and buy a new one. More expensive? Yes. Untraceable? Ditto. I have had conversations with D E A, F B I and H o m e l a n d S e c u r i t y and trust me: They HATE pre-paid cards for a reason.

I go so far as to have someone else buy these for me, and the prepaid phone that I use to contact the ladies. Not that I am paranoid, but everywhere has a camera on you when you buy these things and believe me face recognition truely works. I am not sure Scottsdale or Phx would go that far, but back east the FBI and locals did a five state bust on the shops that move these girls around.

The ones I give my number to is the prepaid, and same one I put their numbers in.

Hey we all have some special girls number. I still call Lowsa from ANFU and she has been from Cali, to Deleware to Hawaii since ANFU. I just stay in touch because when this talent comes back to valley I want to be first in line.

**ShawnGreen** · 04-12-13 17:22

Originally Posted by Dirty Old Guy [View Original Post]

Papa,

Do you know which are the "generic","untraceable" brands of pre-paid cards?

Thanks,

Dirty

I literally just bought one at WALMART to do an online purchase I didn't want use my CC for. They cost 3 bucks at a Walmart Money center which is upfront by customer service. Just don't register the card. You can go online and they will send you a card with your name on it but they want ALL your info including SS number. You can however buy it and use it without doing all that. Works fine as I have used them alot for little things and for 3 bucks it can be worth it. If you have any more questions you can PM me about them.

**Dirty Old Guy** · 04-12-13 07:55

Papa,

Do you know which are the "generic","untraceable" brands of pre-paid cards?

Thanks,

Dirty

Originally Posted by Papa Rotzi [View Original Post]

This is no harder for LE to do on a registered pre-paid card than with a normal credit card. After all these are still co-branded Visa, Mastercard and AMEX cards. Very easy to grab personal info (if it's there, because you registered it so you can do reloads). And then LE drops by your home or office. The card / account gives up the reloads AND also ALL of the transactions: Where, When, How much. Same as a credit card. The ONLY way to avoid this data trail is to toss a pre-paid after it's initial load is used up and buy a new one. More expensive? Yes. Untraceable? Ditto. I have had conversations with D E A, F B I and H o m e l a n d S e c u r i t y and trust me: They HATE pre-paid cards for a reason.

**Papa Rotzi** · 04-11-13 23:49

This is no harder for LE to do on a registered pre-paid card than with a normal credit card. After all these are still co-branded Visa, Mastercard and AMEX cards. Very easy to grab personal info (if it's there, because you registered it so you can do reloads). And then LE drops by your home or office. The card / account gives up the reloads AND also ALL of the transactions: Where, When, How much. Same as a credit card. The ONLY way to avoid this data trail is to toss a pre-paid after it's initial load is used up and buy a new one. More expensive? Yes. Untraceable? Ditto. I have had conversations with D E A, F B I and H o m e l a n d S e c u r i t y and trust me: They HATE pre-paid cards for a reason.

Originally Posted by Matrix Neo [View Original Post]

I wouldn't be shocked if this actually happened. Regardless, this is yet another reason why anyone involved in "hobbying" should be using CASH ONLY. Whether it be at a massage parlor or anywhere else.

**Dirty Old Guy** · 04-11-13 08:32

#1,

Good info, thanks.

It always amazes me when I hear about mongers using credit cards at a massage parlor. Ninety nine percent of us don't want family or friends to know that we do this, but then go and pay MMS with a payment method that is traceable back to "the real you".

If you are going to use plastic for MP's and other purchases, then Papa's suggestion is a very good one. But, the best one is Neo's,"CASH ONLY". Don't leave a back-trail. Think with the big one for a change!

Watch your ass!

Dirty

Originally Posted by NumberOnePerve [View Original Post]

Warning to all my other monger friends. Trust me this comes from a very good source inside LE.

Scottdale PD and Phx PD have been working together for several years and I guess due to budget restrictions or maybe they get spotted too easy because the only talk and don't expose themselves because of entrapment laws, they have now started an active credit card search of massage parlors.

In the one I know about, Massage Body Works on Shoen in Scottsdale, they pulled the credit card reciepts and found a. 4 charge for massage and. 6 for tip.

Long and short, they went to guys house, he fessed up and now girl got arrested and he is forced to testify or gets charged. Don't know about you but I don't want LE knocking on my door and asking the little woman if they can talk to me.

Some of these guys are just doing a job, others get their nut jamming you up. Most vice cops thinks this is funny shit and enjoy telling stories of how stupid some of the girls and we are.

Several reasons not to use a credit card.) the girls learn your real name. 2.) If you tip more than massage or equal to the cops are not stupid.

I am not new to this game, and am sure most of you don't need to read this message. Just an FYI what Scottsdale and Phx have teamed up to do.

Hey I'm not paranoid, but I don't park infront either.

A few people know me on this board even though I am new to posting.

I hope I have contributed something worth while other than another good place to hit.

A better name for me would be Torpedodude, has surfaced again.

**Papa Rotzi** · 04-11-13 01:29

You can buy a Visa Debit Pre-paid card and load up to $200. $500 in cash at the store register (amount limit is dependent on the card brand bought) Once the funds are used up on that card. THROW IT AWAY. If you register the card so that you can do reloads, that card will now be associated with your personal information and therefore traceable. If you buy / load a new card each time with cash at the store, that's not the case. The ability to track you only happens once you want to reload funds and "register" the card so that you can do so. It' will cost you $5 to $10 to buy a NEW card each time, but there will be no traceable information if you use pre-paid cards this way. Just letting you all know of options if you don't like carrying cash.

Originally Posted by Matrix Neo [View Original Post]

I wouldn't be shocked if this actually happened. Regardless, this is yet another reason why anyone involved in "hobbying" should be using CASH ONLY. Whether it be at a massage parlor or anywhere else.

**Matrix Neo** · 04-11-13 00:09

Originally Posted by NumberOnePerve [View Original Post]

Warning to all my other monger friends. Trust me this comes from a very good source inside LE.

Scottdale PD and Phx PD have been working together for several years and I guess due to budget restrictions or maybe they get spotted too easy because the only talk and don't expose themselves because of entrapment laws, they have now started an active credit card search of massage parlors.

In the one I know about, Massage Body Works on Shoen in Scottsdale, they pulled the credit card reciepts and found a. 4 charge for massage and. 6 for tip.

Long and short, they went to guys house, he fessed up and now girl got arrested and he is forced to testify or gets charged. Don't know about you but I don't want LE knocking on my door and asking the little woman if they can talk to me.

Some of these guys are just doing a job, others get their nut jamming you up. Most vice cops thinks this is funny shit and enjoy telling stories of how stupid some of the girls and we are.

Several reasons not to use a credit card.) the girls learn your real name. 2.) If you tip more than massage or equal to the cops are not stupid.

I am not new to this game, and am sure most of you don't need to read this message. Just an FYI what Scottsdale and Phx have teamed up to do.

Hey I'm not paranoid, but I don't park infront either.

A few people know me on this board even though I am new to posting.

I hope I have contributed something worth while other than another good place to hit.

A better name for me would be Torpedodude, has surfaced again.

I wouldn't be shocked if this actually happened. Regardless, this is yet another reason why anyone involved in "hobbying" should be using CASH ONLY. Whether it be at a massage parlor or anywhere else.

**NumberOnePerve** · 04-10-13 17:41

Warning to all my other monger friends. Trust me this comes from a very good source inside LE.

Scottdale PD and Phx PD have been working together for several years and I guess due to budget restrictions or maybe they get spotted too easy because the only talk and don't expose themselves because of entrapment laws, they have now started an active credit card search of massage parlors.

In the one I know about, Massage Body Works on Shoen in Scottsdale, they pulled the credit card reciepts and found a .4 charge for massage and .6 for tip.

Long and short, they went to guys house, he fessed up and now girl got arrested and he is forced to testify or gets charged. Don't know about you but I don't want LE knocking on my door and asking the little woman if they can talk to me.

Some of these guys are just doing a job, others get their nut jamming you up. Most vice cops thinks this is funny shit and enjoy telling stories of how stupid some of the girls and we are.

Several reasons not to use a credit card.) the girls learn your real name. 2.) If you tip more than massage or equal to the cops are not stupid.

I am not new to this game, and am sure most of you don't need to read this message. Just an FYI what Scottsdale and Phx have teamed up to do.

Hey I'm not paranoid, but I don't park infront either.

A few people know me on this board even though I am new to posting.

I hope I have contributed something worth while other than another good place to hit.

A better name for me would be Torpedodude, has surfaced again.

**WhiteSun777** · 04-06-13 15:09

Originally Posted by Quick Love [View Original Post]

Http://www.relaxolgy.com/

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs...ia-22/18274368

I'm hoping this review is not related to the links I posted above I'm still trying to get info on RELAXOLOGY so I can visit with more confidence.

I've posted about this place awhile back in July 2012, when I thought it was a new place. Back then I didn't even know what they were called, now it's Relaxology. Turns out they're still advertising as grand opening. I haven't been back since so I'm not sure if things changed. I had the flat rate which was limited. I did upgrade but entire service was rushed and why I haven't been back.

**Massage Dream** · 04-06-13 13:41

Are different and only good for an inexpensive but very well done massage.

http://www.cocoreflexology.com/Contact.asp

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/thp/3726863025.html

I have seen the "Relaxology" ads as well and it sure looks tempting for .5.

Originally Posted by Quick Love [View Original Post]

Http://www.relaxolgy.com/

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs...ia-22/18274368

I'm hoping this review is not related to the links I posted above I'm still trying to get info on RELAXOLOGY so I can visit with more confidence.

**Reallly Bored** · 04-06-13 11:51

So I had to see Mya again, and I called and made another appointment. You only need to make one an hour or so in advance. I was met by another girl, and was taken back to her room, where I waited face down naked. I waited for about five minutes when I heard the clicking of her heels coming down the hall. She greeted me very friendly, and started caressing my ass. She asked If I wanted oil or lotion, and I asked for lotion, and she said she would go get some. I said we really don't need any, and sat up. She walked between my legs, and it was on. Dress was on the floor in seconds, and she was bbbjing my cock. She complimented my unit several times, and actually got down to the base a couple times. I was just about to blow, when I stopped her and asked her to get on the table. SHe hopped on and laid back. I was going to eat her again, and she said, no, I need that cock inside me. So, we rolled on a jimmy and I was balls deep in seconds. Either she came twice, or sure acted like she did, (don't really care) , and then I asked her to get on top. She straddled me and I sucked on her right breast, then she moved my face over to her left, and started to moan. She leaned back a few times and took me in as deep as it would go, and I was just barely hitting bottom. God I love that feeling. She hopped off unexpectedly, and pulled off the jimmy, and said I have to have this cock again, and started sucking and deep throating as best as she could. I could have blown that way easily, as she was teasing my balls and ass, but her ass is way too spectacular not to hit that from behind. We got down and she hiked one leg up on the table, and I went to pound town. It usually doesn't take long, and I was seeing stars as I filled the cover inside her. She pulled out slowly, and took the jimmy off and disposed of it in a tissue, and the went to get towels, naked. She returned with two, and proceeded to clean up johnny ever so carefully. She excused herself to get dressed, and I dressed as well. She always meets you on the way out, and seems very appreciative of your business. I think I will be a regular.

**Quick Love** · 04-05-13 22:49

Originally Posted by Massage Dream [View Original Post]

Tried the place on W Indian School not far from the 101. I think "Dirty" reported on this one a while back. A full body massage is only $35 / hr so I figured I would give it a try as I love massages not matter what the ending is like. Stripped down to the bday suit and laid down. I think in this place you are supposed to leave your underpants on. But I didn't really know. I just got the feeling it was due to the way the lady said "you never been here?" followed by many giggles. She was old but if she had offered I would have let her play with my toys. After a lot of giggles from her I could tell this place is pretty strict. Plus when the boss walked by the curtains she kept looking and making the motion that she is under close surveillance. Great massage though.

Http://www.relaxolgy.com/

http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs...ia-22/18274368

I'm hoping this review is not related to the links I posted above I'm still trying to get info on RELAXOLOGY so I can visit with more confidence.