"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Spitfire** · 02-15-13 23:53

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

Well the crazy * has called my wife back at her work now. Wife was not there but called me to asked me about her. She gave wife two different names already. I asked wife who is it Kimberly or Elissa?

Wife said she does not know. Just left a message with receptionist that she needed to talk to her about Revvo. I said I don't know who it is never heard of either. Don't you think it is strange that there are two different names? She said she does not know.

I can tell she is suspicious. Asked me if there is anything she should know. I said no very nonchalantly. I asked her if she was going to call crazy * back. She said I don't know should I. I said I don't know.

That is where it is at now.

She is getting closer. 90% chance shit will hit the fan. I think I have found the one smart crazy criminal on the planet. I am fucked.

Revvo

If you know anything about her, then maybe you can use a pressure point of her own against her. For example, is she a single mom in the midst of a custody dispute? If so, you can say "do you really want this coming up?" As I said, just an example, there could be others.

But the best advice I can give you is go to the cops now and lay it out for them. Yes, it will hurt, but it's better than the alternatives in my opinion.

**Hernando** · 02-15-13 23:36

"Well the crazy * has called my wife " Revvo.

I hate to be the voice of doom, but all of us will be exposed if we do this long enough. The problem is that we become addicted to the lifestyle and the high that we get from it. It is much like alcohol or drug addiction. I have it bad and got exposed because I could not stop, or at least tone back to modest exposure.

You should call her (the tool) and inform her that you have told your wife, she is behind you, and will call the police if she bothers you or your wife again.

The other thing you might consider doing is throw yourself at her feet (wife) , confess a little bit, at least about this tool, and beg forgiveness. If she finds out it is better coming from you. Several of us here have gone through that trial.

Good luck Nando

**Rico80** · 02-15-13 17:18

Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]

All of my Garden Tools know I'm seeing others and they are too. I asked one to be exclusive and she said no. A interesting reality check for me.

I've have this discussion with all of my regulars. There seems to be a understanding that it is not a naturally exclusive relationship. You can buy pussy. But you can't buy the person. This is because of many factors. The main one is this: We are most likely significantly older than our Garden Tools and probably married. Our Garden Tools often has not given up on that dream for their own lives. They are not going to stop pursuit of that goal just because we are giving them a little cash. Some are honest enough to tell you this straight up. Others will sell you the idea you want.

I know this has been discussed before. But I think the natural structure of the relationship with a Garden Tool does not lend itself to exclusivity. After all if we wanted to be exclusive wouldn't we just keep fucking our wives or SO's? And wouldn't our Garden Tools instead become girlfriends and wives? Can a one sided relationship really work? It has nothing to do with the money. We give them the money in order to get the pussy. After the exchange is complete the reality is that they are free to sell pussy to the next person that comes along.

Unless you are providing for their every need and have them under lock and key, the only time you know your Garden Tool is not fucking someone else is when you have your dick in her. A harsh reality but much more likely to be closer to the truth than thinking she is exclusive to you.

Go balls deep & prosper!

SubCmdr Out

I believe that everyone should read and memorize this piece of profound advice. Had I known this before would have kept me from being hurt. Hurt in the wallet and heart. LOL. Aloha from Hawaii.

**Revvo** · 02-15-13 14:59

Well the crazy ***** has called my wife back at her work now. Wife was not there but called me to asked me about her. She gave wife two different names already. I asked wife who is it Kimberly or Elissa?

Wife said she does not know. Just left a message with receptionist that she needed to talk to her about Revvo. I said I don't know who it is never heard of either. Don't you think it is strange that there are two different names? She said she does not know.

I can tell she is suspicious. Asked me if there is anything she should know. I said no very nonchalantly. I asked her if she was going to call crazy ***** back. She said I don't know should I. I said I don't know.

That is where it is at now.

She is getting closer. 90% chance shit will hit the fan. I think I have found the one smart crazy criminal on the planet. I am fucked.

Revvo

**Blak Casper** · 02-15-13 13:51

Originally Posted by RavensFan [View Original Post]

She had a female cousin that works at a low cost motel close to her school, so whenever people check out a day early, Lily can use the room for free.

Are you able to get fresh / clean sheets and towels?

**Blak Casper** · 02-15-13 13:49

Originally Posted by BigTigger [View Original Post]

MsSuccessful had turned out to be a roaring success. Since she also pays for meals, rooms and other things, drives a car just a nice as mine, has an expense account, and tries to pay for my gas, LOL, I cannot honestly put her in the SB category.

All others are basically on hold, so I'm not sure I'll have much exciting to contribute for a while.

BigTigg

Good report, hold on to her as long as you can, I've had a few over the years that fit this description that I bailed on after awhile for one reason or another. Though they didn't come from / through the sugar world, in your case as long as she doesn't try to put you on "boyfriend / faithful / exclusive" status ride it as long as you can, haha.

**BigTigger** · 02-15-13 10:29

If we can help just one person score a nutt, then the board has fulfilled it's purpose. LOL.

Originally Posted by RavensFan [View Original Post]

Thanks for all the info you guys put in here, will never score this AA hottie without the info here. Thanks guys.

**RavensFan** · 02-15-13 01:04

Hi guy, from my last post I said I score an AA girl from sd4m (lets call her Lily) in my area, and guess what, I think I struck GOLD.

So she txt me on Tuesday, ask me if I can meet her on Wed evening. I had nothing in plan so I said yes, and that was ALL I HAD TO DO.

She had a female cousin that works at a low cost motel close to her school, so whenever people check out a day early, Lily can use the room for free. So on Wednesday she set up everything and tell me to meet her at the motel. I met her at the parking lot, she bought carryout for me and her. We walk in together and she chat with her cousin for a little and pick up the key (asked if she can get her female cousin in for a 3some but she firmly said no) got in the room, had dinner together, relax for a movie, shower together and hit the main event. After we are done, I asked her how much was the dinner and if she needs help to take care of the room, she said no, the room is free and dinner didn't cost much. She told me just to give her the $ we agreed on. $ plus. 3 was all I had with me so I gave it all to her. She was very thankful and told me I could stay the nite with her, I told her no because I have to work the next day.

The only bad thing about this girl is she is a one pop wonder. She cums easily (or at least she acts like she is) and she cums 3-4 time during my one pop. She needs a little break everytime she cums so by the time I finish my first pop, is almost an hour. By then she is all tire out and said she can't take it for another hour.

I m planning to see her again this weekend, she said there is a good chance people will check out early on Sunday and we can use the room on late Sunday nite.

My first SB and I got lucky, I guess I will lay low for a bit until I m done with Lily. Thanks for all the info you guys put in here, will never score this AA hottie without the info here. Thanks guys.

**RavensFan** · 02-15-13 01:00

Hi guy, from my last post I said I score an AA girl from sd4m (lets call her Lily) in my area, and guess what, I think I struck GOLD.

So she txt me on Tuesday, ask me if I can meet her on Wed evening. I had nothing in plan so I said yes, and that was ALL I HAD TO DO.

She had a female cousin that works at a low cost motel close to her school, so whenever people check out a day early, Lily can use the room for free. So on Wednesday she set up everything and tell me to meet her at the motel. I met her at the parking lot, she bought carryout for me and her. We walk in together and she chat with her cousin for a little and pick up the key (asked if she can get her female cousin in for a 3some but she firmly said no) got in the room, had dinner together, relax for a movie, shower together and hit the main event. After we are done, I asked her how much was the dinner and if I need to take care of the room, she said no, the room is free and dinner didn't cost much. She told me just to give her the $ we agreed on. $ plus. 3 was all I had with me so I gave it all to her. She was very thankful and told me I could stay the nite with her, I told her no because I have to work the next day.

The only bad thing about this girl is she is a one pop wonder. She cums easily (or at least she acts like she is) and she cums 3-4 time during my one pop. She needs a little break everytime she cums so by the time I finish my first pop, is almost an hour. By then she is all tire out and said she can't take it for another hour.

I m planning to see her again this weekend, she said there is a good chance people will check out early on Sunday and we can use the room on late Sunday nite.

My first SB and I got lucky, I guess I will lay low for a bit until I m done with Lily. Thanks for all the info you guys put in here, will never score this AA hottie without the info here. Thanks guys.

**BigTigger** · 02-14-13 22:25

MsSuccessful had turned out to be a roaring success. So much so, that I'm going to have to cease talking about her on this board. She should have been on AM instead of a SD site. We are fin full blown affair mode. We've done the Tiggabounce 3 times in the last 3 days. I've been able to get her gifts, but it is nothing SD like. Since she also pays for meals, rooms and other things, drives a car just a nice as mine, has an expense account, and tries to pay for my gas, LOL, I cannot honestly put her in the SB category.

I am working on the stunning one with the DDs. She's only 21 and very inexperienced. She's been ready to do the Tiggabounce, but as you can tell MsSuccessful has had me busy. I've see her 3 times, but the last 2 were very brief. I've given her some funds, to keep her interested. I also stopped by with some Valentine's day goodies. That went over very well. I can't see this being long term, but I've got to hit it a few times for posterity.

All others are basically on hold, so I'm not sure I'll have much exciting to contribute for a while.

BigTigg

**BigTigger** · 02-14-13 22:11

I think your cover will hold. I had to be much more elaborate with mine, so as long as you sell it as the be-wildered victim, you should be fine. Make sure to say you are worried about being targeted too. Be careful using the "prostitute" word. That could set off some bells. There are a number of people who's want to scam you, especially the way this economy is. So you may not have to use that word.

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

I think I need to do a prep story for the warden in case this ***** gets through. Warden knows that I was out late that night. Told her I was with clients. I think what I will tell her is "that there was this weird woman there that was flirting with one of the other guys and they got into and argument. I think she was a prostitute. But they ended up getting into an argument when she propositioned him for money. At that point she stormed off and we just laughed it off. But now this guy is getting stalked by this woman. And he is freaking out. You know I wonder if this is who stole my credit card? Because this was at about the same time that my card was lost." Do you think that cover story will hold?

**FredMoore** · 02-13-13 22:26

Holy shit Nando! What a disaster and a wake up call for us all. As has been said before this is a risky business, but so is motorcycle riding, parachuting, and rock climbing. My GT #1 is broken and cancelled on me at the last minute last night. We just don't hit it off sexually so it looks like we are on the outs. I have put up with a lot working too hard for the pussy that should be a sure thing. Her replacement is on deck this weekend.

The Rat is a supreme emasculate pussy and demonstrates the worst of humanity. Unfortunately there is no way to find a guy such as this. He should be looking for young boys instead perhaps.

Pot #3

Is an AA HCG 8/8? She is my 1st AA and I am excited. She has a JLo butt and looks like she could give me a run for my money. She is from SA.

Pot #4 and 5.

Are from SDFM and one is a HCB at 7/8? And the other (s) are a pair of lesbians who want some man flesh. Pot is probably too optimistic a term at this stage of the courting. They are probably not real pots until the M&G is scheduled and possibly consummated.

**SubCmdr** · 02-13-13 21:33

All of my Garden Tools know I'm seeing others and they are too. I asked one to be exclusive and she said no. A interesting reality check for me.

I've have this discussion with all of my regulars. There seems to be a understanding that it is not a naturally exclusive relationship. You can buy pussy. But you can't buy the person. This is because of many factors. The main one is this: We are most likely significantly older than our Garden Tools and probably married. Our Garden Tools often has not given up on that dream for their own lives. They are not going to stop pursuit of that goal just because we are giving them a little cash. Some are honest enough to tell you this straight up. Others will sell you the idea you want.

I know this has been discussed before. But I think the natural structure of the relationship with a Garden Tool does not lend itself to exclusivity. After all if we wanted to be exclusive wouldn't we just keep fucking our wives or SO's? And wouldn't our Garden Tools instead become girlfriends and wives? Can a one sided relationship really work? It has nothing to do with the money. We give them the money in order to get the pussy. After the exchange is complete the reality is that they are free to sell pussy to the next person that comes along.

Unless you are providing for their every need and have them under lock and key, the only time you know your Garden Tool is not fucking someone else is when you have your dick in her. A harsh reality but much more likely to be closer to the truth than thinking she is exclusive to you.

Go balls deep & prosper!

SubCmdr Out

**SubCmdr** · 02-13-13 20:58

Originally Posted by Hernando [View Original Post]

" Most of these girls don't want to be girlfriends. And they like playing around. Just like the guys " Hollywood Guy

" you can demand her to be just yours. If not. Just accept it and enjoy the time you have with her." Euro

A real life scenario :

SB "dates " multiple guys one or two nights / week each, disguising this fact from each SD.

Each guy thinks (and cares) that he is the one and only. She is THAT good

SD " A" is single and thinks she is his real life girlfriend and get's suspicious of her movements

He hires a Private Eye

PI follows her and writes a report on each and every SD she saw, including each guy's personal information. Family members, financials, business, etc.

Enraged SD "A" calls wife of each with the news.

Wife goes ape shit.

So your SB who is a carefree multifucker just like us, unbeknownst to her and us, is causing the outing of all parties involved. She doesn't even have to know who you are, the PI will find all of it out.

Oh SHIT!

SD A is not a man. He is a *****! A completely lame mother fucker that needs to be put out of his misery. He blew everyone else shit up because he couldn't handle his pussy. SD A should have dealt with the pain of his betrayal in private and just moved on instead of messing up everyone else's lives or fun. Wow! What a complete rat!

Nando, you are a better man than I am. SD A needs to be taken care of. He is lucky it wasn't me. Cause I got at a App for that!

SubCmdr Out!

**Revvo** · 02-13-13 19:39

Guys I think I got a big problem. Remember in an earlier report that I told you I went on a meet and greet and dinner with a crazy one. And when I stepped away from the table she signed my name and got a look at my credit card. Huge mistake. I fucked up big time on this one.

Well she appears to be totally batshit crazy. She had stitches on her wrists like someone who had attempted suicide. After the aborted M&G where she wanted me to put her up in a nice hotel for the weekend, just leave her there, of course we did not do anything. I left and I thought it was on good terms never got into it with her never insulted her. But I could see in her crazy mind. She was pissed. She was not able to scam me for more than drinks and dinner. I immediately canceled my card as lost or stolen. And mentioned lost credit card to the warden in passing.

So after that she sent me emails, texts, tried calling me and sending me messages through SA. I reported her to SA for her antics and they booted her from the site. I blocked her on Google Voice. Then I did not hear anything for a while. But I was worried that she had my full name. Then a week later she sends me this email saying that she has filed a police report and that my family and me are in the hands of the police. Fucking crazy!

At almost the same moment. I get this message from one of the people I work with that he received this email from a person that used to work at our same previous company asking how to find me. He did not know the person asking about me so he asked me about it and I said I don't know him and just don't respond to it. The eerie thing about it is the person asking was looking me up on linkded in and had the same last name as the crazy *****. I shut down my linked in account. It had old stuff on it.

Then I heard nothing for about a week. And then today. I come home and there is a registered letter notice for me to pick up at the post office. And a voice message from a woman calling for myself or my wife. She knows my wifes and mine first and last name. Just says to call back no message. It is a number from an area code in the same city where I met the crazy *****. No one was home so I called the number via Google Voice and an old lady answered and I asked for the person asking for me. She told me it must be her daughter and gave me her name. She was not home now. I looked her up on PIPL and it had as one of her aliases the name of the crazy *****!

I immediately did a call block on my home phone for both numbers. Guys I am really spooked on this one. And I did not even do anything.

I think I need to do a prep story for the warden in case this ***** gets through. Warden knows that I was out late that night. Told her I was with clients. I think what I will tell her is "that there was this weird woman there that was flirting with one of the other guys and they got into and argument. I think she was a prostitute. But they ended up getting into an argument when she propositioned him for money. At that point she stormed off and we just laughed it off. But now this guy is getting stalked by this woman. And he is freaking out. You know I wonder if this is who stole my credit card? Because this was at about the same time that my card was lost." Do you think that cover story will hold?

What do you guys think? I am really spooked on this one. This may be serious problems. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If you need to PM please do.

Man I had not even done anything.

Revvo