"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**HollywoodGuy** · 09-26-12 17:32

Originally Posted by Dog Rice [View Original Post]

Bros,

Please bear w / me if this does not fit this thread. I am still a newbie on this.

Had my first M&G, and things are going into a right direction. Need some comment / advice from bros here w. Are. T this SB. Texted w / the SB at night, and she was flirting w / me a bit and sent a nude pic to me. I then asked about uncovered BJ and asked her whether she can show me her test result. (I usually go w / all covered, but would like BBBJ if possible. Just me being chicken.) She said that she tested regularly, but last test was several months ago and no print out. She then said she can go to get AIM test if I pay. (I googled AIM, and it stands for Adult Industry Medical). After that, several questions came to mind: Was she in the Adult Industry before? Or Was she like a semi-pro?

Would like to hear some comment from experts here.

Don't talk about sex before a m&g. We are all adults. And its going to happen anyway if its meant to be. I like to focus on something a little softer to start. A shared interest of some sort. Like kissing.

**HollywoodGuy** · 09-26-12 14:57

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

My brothers,

At the risk of getting tossed out of the club, I feel I must weigh in on the recent turn some posts to the Logbook have taken. In my opinion, the thing that separates this thread from all the others on the site that I am familiar with is that it is not just a "notching post", but a real forum for the exchange of knowledge, experience, wisdom gained in the trenches, and yes, anecdotes of successes and failures, all in the pursuit of that most elusive of quarries, the true sugar baby.

Now before some of you start to compose your replies that "isn't it all pay-for-play, even in marriage", I just don't want to walk down that alley at this point. Let's agree to disagree on that.

But if you are knowingly bagging a pro, no matter where you have met her, your report just isn't helpful, in my opinion. I think any one of us is familiar with the procedure, and the reason most of us are here, and not on the many "escort report" threads, is that we are looking for something more rarified. Fly fishing vs bait casting, if you will. Again, this is my own approach, and a wide open blog such as this is a living, evolving thing, so it may just be evolving away from my particular viewpoint. If that is the case, so be it. However, as I said, I think this is the most literate, informative, helpful and insightful place on the site, and I for one would love to see it stay that way.

I realize I have exposed the throat, as it were, with what I have written, so if you disagree with my opinion, have at it. It's only cyberspace, after all.

Peace,

Scott

My last post was with a girl that represented herself a sb. But turned out to be a pro. Being she was 21 I thought I might have a chance. As far as my philosophy on mining for gold. Like my old boss used to say. If you have a lot of quantity there is going to be some quality in there. So out of the last 80+ girls I have interviewed in the prior 12 months there were a few 100% true non-pros. Total sb materiel. And those are the ones I spend the big money on.

But my time is limited and so after maybe 1 to 5 emails I go to a meet. For me this is more cost effective overall. I am not into a big pre-screening process. Also my experience is you can never know if you have chemistry or a non pro with out a face to face meet so to speak. And even if it isn't sb materiel its still a roll in the hay. Also posting the fake non pros helps keep someone else away from them. If a true sb is what they are looking for. I have been the "first" a few times. And always strive for that. So really there is no disagreement here.

And I have posted some tricks of the trade in my posts so far and will continue to do so. All feedback is welcome. Love this place.

**Dog Rice** · 09-26-12 11:56

Bros,

Please bear w / me if this does not fit this thread. I am still a newbie on this.

Had my first M&G, and things are going into a right direction. Need some comment / advice from bros here w. Are. T this SB. Texted w / the SB at night, and she was flirting w / me a bit and sent a nude pic to me. I then asked about uncovered BJ and asked her whether she can show me her test result. (I usually go w / all covered, but would like BBBJ if possible. Just me being chicken.) She said that she tested regularly, but last test was several months ago and no print out. She then said she can go to get AIM test if I pay. (I googled AIM, and it stands for Adult Industry Medical). After that, several questions came to mind: Was she in the Adult Industry before? Or Was she like a semi-pro?

Would like to hear some comment from experts here.

**Dog Rice** · 09-26-12 11:06

Scotty and other "master" bros,

Sorry about my post. Will tune down my report and try to report useful info instead of logbook type. Probably will make another mistake, and please feel free to correct me and ask me to shut up.

Trainee Dog

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

My brothers,

At the risk of getting tossed out of the club, I feel I must weigh in on the recent turn some posts to the Logbook have taken. In my opinion, the thing that separates this thread from all the others on the site that I am familiar with is that it is not just a "notching post", but a real forum for the exchange of knowledge, experience, wisdom gained in the trenches, and yes, anecdotes of successes and failures, all in the pursuit of that most elusive of quarries, the true sugar baby.

Now before some of you start to compose your replies that "isn't it all pay-for-play, even in marriage", I just don't want to walk down that alley at this point. Let's agree to disagree on that.

But if you are knowingly bagging a pro, no matter where you have met her, your report just isn't helpful, in my opinion. I think any one of us is familiar with the procedure, and the reason most of us are here, and not on the many "escort report" threads, is that we are looking for something more rarified. Fly fishing vs bait casting, if you will. Again, this is my own approach, and a wide open blog such as this is a living, evolving thing, so it may just be evolving away from my particular viewpoint. If that is the case, so be it. However, as I said, I think this is the most literate, informative, helpful and insightful place on the site, and I for one would love to see it stay that way.

I realize I have exposed the throat, as it were, with what I have written, so if you disagree with my opinion, have at it. It's only cyberspace, after all.

Peace,

Scott

**SubCmdr** · 09-26-12 00:14

F Scott,

"I disagree strongly with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire.

SubCmdr out.

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

My brothers,

At the risk of getting tossed out of the club, I feel I must weigh in on the recent turn some posts to the Logbook have taken. In my opinion, the thing that separates this thread from all the others on the site that I am familiar with is that it is not just a "notching post", but a real forum for the exchange of knowledge, experience, wisdom gained in the trenches, and yes, anecdotes of successes and failures, all in the pursuit of that most elusive of quarries, the true sugar baby.

Now before some of you start to compose your replies that "isn't it all pay-for-play, even in marriage", I just don't want to walk down that alley at this point. Let's agree to disagree on that.

But if you are knowingly bagging a pro, no matter where you have met her, your report just isn't helpful, in my opinion. I think any one of us is familiar with the procedure, and the reason most of us are here, and not on the many "escort report" threads, is that we are looking for something more rarified. Fly fishing vs bait casting, if you will. Again, this is my own approach, and a wide open blog such as this is a living, evolving thing, so it may just be evolving away from my particular viewpoint. If that is the case, so be it. However, as I said, I think this is the most literate, informative, helpful and insightful place on the site, and I for one would love to see it stay that way.

I realize I have exposed the throat, as it were, with what I have written, so if you disagree with my opinion, have at it. It's only cyberspace, after all.

Peace,

Scott

**EuroInCincy** · 09-25-12 23:57

Scanning over the personal logs of the last star dates I see a few members of the crew who seem to go for quantity. It seems they are very interested in making notches. That is probably a function of age, younger than me, but just reporting notches here, even though it is good for that crew members ego, does not really help with the journey we make to find the perfect sb, the one who is fairly long term.

Just keep the 'notch post' for your local boards just as we sometimes find great sb on craigslist or the back page, these quick conquests should be on the mentioned on the local boards.

Lets try not to clutter the logs here.

Give me a bit more engine power Scotty.

**EuroInCincy** · 09-25-12 23:52

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

My brothers,

At the risk of getting tossed out of the club, I feel I must weigh in on the recent turn some posts to the Logbook have taken. In my opinion, the thing that separates this thread from all the others on the site that I am familiar with is that it is not just a "notching post", but a real forum for the exchange of knowledge, experience, wisdom gained in the trenches, and yes, anecdotes of successes and failures, all in the pursuit of that most elusive of quarries, the true sugar baby.

Scott

Scotty, I agree, a Course modification is needed, where is Subcmdr's sonar to direct us into the right lane?

I am staying on the old course, of not bagging pro's, and if I would do so, it has no space in this log here.

We all know about GPS syndrome and please no need to come up with mountains of data you encountered. Commander running silent again?

I am on full warp again, encountering many planets, which do take time to explore, but most are not the right M class planets.

**F Scott** · 09-25-12 19:49

My brothers,

At the risk of getting tossed out of the club, I feel I must weigh in on the recent turn some posts to the Logbook have taken. In my opinion, the thing that separates this thread from all the others on the site that I am familiar with is that it is not just a "notching post", but a real forum for the exchange of knowledge, experience, wisdom gained in the trenches, and yes, anecdotes of successes and failures, all in the pursuit of that most elusive of quarries, the true sugar baby.

Now before some of you start to compose your replies that "isn't it all pay-for-play, even in marriage", I just don't want to walk down that alley at this point. Let's agree to disagree on that.

But if you are knowingly bagging a pro, no matter where you have met her, your report just isn't helpful, in my opinion. I think any one of us is familiar with the procedure, and the reason most of us are here, and not on the many "escort report" threads, is that we are looking for something more rarified - fly fishing vs bait casting, if you will. Again, this is my own approach, and a wide open blog such as this is a living, evolving thing, so it may just be evolving away from my particular viewpoint. If that is the case, so be it. However, as I said, I think this is the most literate, informative, helpful and insightful place on the site, and I for one would love to see it stay that way.

I realize I have exposed the throat, as it were, with what I have written, so if you disagree with my opinion, have at it. It's only cyberspace, after all.

Peace,

Scott

**HollywoodGuy** · 09-25-12 18:28

Met this one on SD4me. And there are a lot of non pros on those sites. But not this one. Total pro. But her spinner body. 5.6. 103 lbs got my attention and kept my attention for the full hour. The pros (no pun intended). Hollywood area. Drove to my house. Big juicy pierced clit. Total spinner body. Came fast from the DATY. The cons. Loosened up a bit after she came. No DFK. And nothing uncovered. Kind of a toothy smile. But a nice girl. May repeat one day. Not sure. Total damage $. Not sb materiel

**Dog Rice** · 09-25-12 14:14

I am getting quite a lot of responds from GPS (after getting on SA for 2 days).

Here are some of my encounters on pot SBs (GPS) :

- 23 yrs hot blonde: responds w/$$$$$-$$$$$$$ per visit. I responded w / my budget. She was willing to low it down due to "tough time", but still not within my budget, and she can't host (more $$ on me). Responded to reiterate my budget. She also told me that no need to dinner or outing. (sounds like an escort to me)

- 37 yrs blonde: long responds explaining to me that the norm is $$$$$k to $$$$$$$k per month. Speechless.

- 24 yrs hot blonde: responds starting w/ (previous arrangement was $k per visit) and asking what I have in mind. I actually just ignored her.

- 28 yrs asian: exchanged some text, and told me,"I can tell you now I'm not cheap hon when it comes to arrangement".

- 22 yrs hot blonde: responds w/$$k-$$$k a month. I am getting tired to respond.

- 38 yrs hot MILF: responds w/$.2k to $.5k a month. I responded w/"allowance per date" type, and reiterated my budget.

Many GPS. Need to keep my little head out of all of those discussion.

**HollywoodGuy** · 09-25-12 01:11

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

Here is a quick cut and paste to save a little time. When the girls are pushing for answers early on. Please change the words so we all don't sound like a bunch of robots. I don't so the endless emails and txting. I try to KISS as much as possible prior to a m&g.

"so, as to what kind of an arrangement am I looking for. Until we get to know each other it's impossible to say and too premature to think about. I have had a # of first dates off this site and a few that led to something more (monthly allowances). So anything is possible with the right person."

Or.

"if I met someone and we really liked each other, then it could turn into something more. I have been meeting people off this site for some time now and a few times it did get serious (monthly allowance). So I guess anything is possible."

Please reword for your own use. And have fun

Good spelling doesn't hurt either.

**HollywoodGuy** · 09-25-12 01:10

Here is a quick cut and paste to save a little time. When the girls are pushing for answers early on. Please change the words so we all don't sound like a bunch of robots. I don't so the endless emails and txting. I try to KISS as much as possible prior to a m&g.

"so, as to what kind of an arrangement am I looking for. Until we get to know each other it's impossible to say and too premature to think about. I have had a # of first dates off this site and a few that led to something more (monthly allowances). So anything is possible with the right person."

Or.

"if I met someone and we really liked each other, then it could turn into something more. I have been meeting people off this site for some time now and a few times it did get serious (monthly allowance). So I guess anything is possible."

Please reword for your own use. And have fun

**BigTigger** · 09-25-12 00:29

It's good to see so many newbies and great reports. I love this thread, we actually tend to help each other out. My activities have been all over the place. Currently working on one Coed-Cutie. 21 hot body be cups and cute bottom. M&G went great, a 2 hour breakfast at a nice hideaway spot. Her monthly damage amount is very reasonable, especially if I can actually see her once a month. We have date #2 setup this week. Dinner / Movie and prob a little making out to keep my night reasonable. .

I have another 30yr old SB who is definitely the young MILF type. Nice rack and cute body. I'll be seeing her 2 to 4 days a month. I've already had the TiggaBounce with her from the first M&G. Great attitude and wonderful personality. I'll be keeping her around for a while. Damage is also minimum there.

I met one on SA and one on sddie.

**F Scott** · 09-24-12 17:49

Originally Posted by John G Smith [View Original Post]

But before I start thinking entirely with the little head, I just wanted to make sure I'm not completely crazy to entertain the idea of an explicit video chat and I wondered if anyone has done anything similar.

John,

To me, it sounds like a great idea, until it doesn't! Whenever we start out on a new relationship with a Shiny New Baby, everything is sweetness and light! Naked pics of me in the mirror of my bathroom at home? Sure! Skype with me in my office with the door closed? Ok! Naked video chats in the den at home while the wife is out of town? You bet! Hot with two "t's", right?

Now imagine those same things, saved on a scorned or dumped or just vanished baby's hard drive, three months after the breakup, when she hasn't been able to set anything else up, and the rent is past due, and she's acquired a little bit of a coke habit as well. If she doesn't already have an idea who you really are, she's going to start looking, and what if she finds you? All it takes is one polite waitress bringing back your credit card receipt and thanking you by name, and now you're totally vulnerable.

I"m not sure I could sleep well, if at all, knowing that shit was out there on me! I sent a sext with pic to a baby in my early days, and immediately regretted it, since the arrangement didn't go anywhere, but now there was this photo of me, in our master bathroom, that even if she were half blind my SO could identify.

As fun as it sounds, I wouldn't do it, or at least wouldn't do it mutually. If she wants to send you a video clip of her petting the kitty, by all means encourage it. You have way more to lose than she does, and there is no such thing as mutually-assured destruction in the Bowl. Daddies always lose bigger!

Just my opinion, but I think a reasonable one nonetheless. Brothers?

Scott.

PS - In other news, yes, I have had a run of really bad luck lately. 2 psychos, several no shows, several no thanks, one who I put a lot of work into and then who just vanished, and the rest just didn't do it for me, even after a few dates and some making out. I guess I'm getting pickier in my old age, though shouldn't it be the other way around? Who knows?

In a real shitty turn of events, my ATF, the one who broke my heart, is back on SA, and so far has read but not replied to my three messages, so I think I'll send about 15 to 20 more, and if still no answer from her, I'll begin to get the hint! Ah well, this is the way things go in this strange but wonderful world.

My life has not been entirely baby-free, however. Naughty Brit and I have had several get-togethers, I've had a couple one and dones, and have had very good luck on the road, so all in all, I can't complain. If I could just manage to get my local situation sorted out, I'd be a happy fellow indeed.

I have several m&gs set up for this week, including what I hope will be a delightful picnic on the lakefront tomorrow, so I remain optimistic, despite my recent performance, or lack thereof.

Lastly, the magnificent Polo is making sounds as if our riding lessons are finally able to resume. Kids are well back in school, husband is back at work, family stuff is underway and under control, and her little pony is apparently missing Scottie and me something fierce. Hooray for me! I wondered if we might incorporate all our tricks into one fantastic lesson - tooth paste, scarves and spanking, and was met with an enthusiastic yes. She even hinted that she might have a few more ideas, but what those could be I can't, at this point, fathom. I may have to double up on my meds, Good Lord! I'll be sure to file a report. I enquired after the current freckle count, and apparently I will just have to tally then myself! Giddy up, I say!

On a final note, I'm glad to see so many new, and active, brothers contributing to what must surely be the best thread on the entire site. Some guys have tried to get something similar going up in my neck of the woods, but they are concentrating solely on CL and BP, and so are only scoring hookers pretending to be babies, if that.

Keep up the good work, my friends, and Nando, sorry to hear how things stand for you at the moment, but glad to see you posting again. There aren't that many of us old members still reporting to the clubhouse it seems, but maybe that's the way of things. Who knows?

I will do my best to accumulate valuable and contributory information and experiences in the coming months.

Peace,

S

**Dog Rice** · 09-24-12 15:23

Chatting w / more pot SBs and I think I can answer my own question: Most of the pot SBs I chatted with are okay w/"allowance per session" model after I said,"we don't know each other yet, so would like to keep "per session" model initially". .

Got some very good feedback from some brothers here about the CPO. (Thank you!) Definitely need to stick w / the budget and keep the thinking out from the little head. Was able to negotiate down some of the pot SBs down as well. Trying to setup M&G w / several pot SBs and see whether we can go anywhere. Wish me luck. .

Originally Posted by Dog Rice [View Original Post]

Folks,

Thank you for this thread. Learned a lot from here. Just got a membership on SA. Already getting some chatting w / some SBs.

Got one MILF (GPS type) asking for 5-7k monthly and telling me that this is the norm. Thanks for this thread, I politely told her that I don't believe that is the norm.

What is the typical way for allowance (per session or monthly in advanced )? I don't think any SB would want monthly towards the end of the month. I personally prefer per-session, but seems that some SBs do not like per-session (seems like a Nado#2. Escort type).

After reading thr. This thread, it seems like per session allowance is ranging $ to $$$ in average. ? (Still learning the CPO. Metrics.)

Any expert here can provide some of your experiences?

Thanks in advance