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  1. #4304
    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    Well, there are more likely scenarios.

    First of all, chlamydia can lie dormant in the body for many years causing a low grade infection without symptoms. Second, men can have chlamydia and not know it, and pass the germ without experiencing symptoms themselves.

    Yes, technically you can get it from BBBJ but from what understand it's less likely then you having it for quite a while and not feeling it and then all of the sudden it decides to act up, kind of like a cold sore.
    Possible I suppose. But in this case a particular lady that I had been with called me up the next day to inform me that she just found out that what she had thought was strep throat that she had had for several days, was actually chlamydia. I developed symptoms (ie slight itching and discharge) several days later, was tested positive for it, and received treatment. It may have been a coincidence, but it seems to me that the timing would suggest that I got it from her. But like I said, that's one incident out of four or five "dates" per week for 20 years. So obviously, the odds are in our favor.

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.

  2. #4303
    A few months back (when I was partaking somewhat frequently) I was fairly sure I had a dreaded Herpes blister on my pene / sack area from a BBBJ as I got it about a week later. Turns out it was only an ingrown hair from manscaping. LOL Whew! Scared me a bit.

    I was always curious to know how many mongers here have caught anything from oral. Would like to take a poll.

    Personally, I rarely ever DATY a pro for that very reason. Seems to me that is much more risky than receiving BBBJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ho Hunter 328  [View Original Post]
    I actually did get chlamydia once from a BBBJ, I hadn't engaged in FS with anyone for several months at the time, so the BBBJ was the only way I could have contracted it. But considering that's once in 20 years of mongering, and literally over one thousand different girls, I'd say that's not bad in the grand scheme of things.

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.

  3. #4302
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    Posts: 2080
    Well, there are more likely scenarios.

    First of all, chlamydia can lie dormant in the body for many years causing a low grade infection without symptoms. Second, men can have chlamydia and not know it, and pass the germ without experiencing symptoms themselves.

    Yes, technically you can get it from BBBJ but from what understand it's less likely then you having it for quite a while and not feeling it and then all of the sudden it decides to act up, kind of like a cold sore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ho Hunter 328  [View Original Post]
    I actually did get chlamydia once from a BBBJ, I hadn't engaged in FS with anyone for several months at the time, so the BBBJ was the only way I could have contracted it. But considering that's once in 20 years of mongering, and literally over one thousand different girls, I'd say that's not bad in the grand scheme of things.

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.

  4. #4301
    Quote Originally Posted by Fly Dangler  [View Original Post]
    There was a time that may have been true, but in the case of gonorrhea that's no longer the case. Up until recently I was involved in epidemiologic investigations involving antibiotic resistant gonorrhea, and it's really starting to get scary.
    Resistant to all antibiotics, or just the cephalosporins?

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.

  5. #4300
    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    Moreover I never knew anybody who heard of anybody who got a venereal disease from DFK, BBBJ or the like.
    I actually did get chlamydia once from a BBBJ, I hadn't engaged in FS with anyone for several months at the time, so the BBBJ was the only way I could have contracted it. But considering that's once in 20 years of mongering, and literally over one thousand different girls, I'd say that's not bad in the grand scheme of things.

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.

  6. #4299
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    Posts: 2080
    What we're doing here is not safe in general. All of us can get sick as a result of it and get arrested. I realize that it is possible to get venereal disease from kissing. I'm sure that historically worldwide there have been cases when it actually happened but! I've never heard of anybody who have actually got it either from kissing or from oral sex, besides maybe getting a flu. Moreover I never knew anybody who heard of anybody who got a venereal disease from DFK, BBBJ or the like. I also know that it is much more likely to get sick from touching then from kissing. All the skin diseases, crabs, herpes in earlier stages of break out, etc. Does it mean that we should all just stop and find ourselves in the church? Not in a million years.

    When you go to the dentist's the fact that they make you sign a form saying that there is miniscule possibility that you can die from a tooth being pulled doesn't mean that there is even a remote possibility of that. It doesn't mean that in a history of humanity it never happened though so there is always that risk.

    So let's put all this fear-mongering it in perspective gentlemen.

    If you don't like DFK or BBBJ or what have you. Fine, to each his own. You sure will have wider choice of providers. If you want some warmth out of your session however and not just a hole to work on, I'm pretty sure that if provider doesn't do DFK more then likely you won't be getting that warmth too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fly Dangler  [View Original Post]
    There was a time that may have been true, but in the case of gonorrhea that's no longer the case. Up until recently I was involved in epidemiologic investigations involving antibiotic resistant gonorrhea, and it's really starting to get scary.

  7. #4298
    Quote Originally Posted by Ho Hunter 328  [View Original Post]
    Most studies show that your main risks in unprotected oral sex include chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, and herpes. All but herpes are easily cured with antibiotics.
    There was a time that may have been true, but in the case of gonorrhea that's no longer the case. Up until recently I was involved in epidemiologic investigations involving antibiotic resistant gonorrhea, and it's really starting to get scary.

  8. #4297
    Quote Originally Posted by Usedj  [View Original Post]
    I always wonder about the safety of DATY, DFK, BB. Etc. Think about it, from down there and up there. Especially if the provider meet others before you that day, or the days earlier. Is DFK really a good idea? Obviously the lady doesn't care even though she is more at risk, and that's probably why many don't do it. I actually sometimes respect and like that since it could make me safe, or so I think.

    Somebody is more in the know may give more insight about this, I hope.
    It's kind of like comparing "less-lethal" weapons and firearms. Any time bodily fluids are exchanged there is a risk. Obviously some activities pose more risk than others. It's all about the level of risk you're willing to accept. Some activities are more risky to one party than the other (ie BBBJ or DATY). Most studies show that your main risks in unprotected oral sex include chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, and herpes. All but herpes are easily cured with antibiotics.

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.

  9. #4296

    Are BBx, DFK, DATY, etc, Safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cpcdman  [View Original Post]
    Reading your post I totally agree with your thought process and what you're looking for with a lady and totally respect what you are looking for in an appointment.

    Looking back I should have said don't waste my time I shouldn't speak for everyone just myself.

    Obviously every lady is different there are ladies that I see that are what you speak of very laid back and like to take things slow and then there are a couple of ladies I see that are on the wild side. Depending on what I'm looking for in an appointment that is who I'll see.

    As for your BB comment I'm not sure what you mean, as far as oral that's what I look for, but for full service I always play safe.
    I always wonder about the safety of DATY, DFK, BB. Etc. Think about it, from down there and up there. Especially if the provider meet others before you that day, or the days earlier. Is DFK really a good idea? Obviously the lady doesn't care even though she is more at risk, and that's probably why many don't do it. I actually sometimes respect and like that since it could make me safe, or so I think.

    Somebody is more in the know may give more insight about this, I hope.

  10. #4295

    Great Post

    Reading your post I totally agree with your thought process and what you're looking for with a lady and totally respect what you are looking for in an appointment.

    Looking back I should have said don't waste my time I shouldn't speak for everyone just myself.

    Obviously every lady is different there are ladies that I see that are what you speak of very laid back and like to take things slow and then there are a couple of ladies I see that are on the wild side. Depending on what I'm looking for in an appointment that is who I'll see.

    As for your BB comment I'm not sure what you mean, as far as oral that's what I look for, but for full service I always play safe.

    I will say that her pics are very nice and very suggestive, I find that a lady who has pictures that aren't quite as upfront showing all of her assets, that are more suggestive showing what she has but in a subtle way are more to my liking makes me wonder what's underneath! Love to want! LOL!

    By the way I sent you a PM.

    Have a great weekend!

    Quote Originally Posted by Stressed Out  [View Original Post]
    Hi CpCdMan. As usual appreciate the cents you threw in. I would like to add a disclaimer to what you said though. You said that unless a girl is GFE don't waste our time. And I acknowledge that most are probavbly looking for that. Well I for one am not looking for a lady that is GFE in the literal SBS so the pics and descriptions are not a waste of time to me and I'm sure many others. (and please let's not get into the whole argument about what is and what isn't as I've been through a thousand of them in my 30+ years doing this.) My wishes are simple and maybe it comes with age but I am not a fan of BB anyway. To me covered is certainly fine and doesn't take away from the session. There are many reasons for it including the fact that it is not necessary for me to enjoy the session but simply put I wish to be on the 'safer' side of things. It has nothing to do with the girl but I have known several that were with a 'clean' lady and ended up with a take home. In both cases the lady had been tested very recently and been clean. So anything can happen and is not worth my waiting 3 weeks for something to happen or not.

    For me a great session involves a nice massage, kiss and cuddle time (doesn't have to be DFK) , some conversation and a nice climax to a successful ending. It doesn't have to be 'hot, groping, sweaty, fall off the bed sex'. I've actually had a few sesions where it was mostly a 'petting' session and we got lost in it and never got to the ending and it was just as enjoyable as others. (Deb can attest to that. LOL)

    Of course the problem is that most of the ladies out there prefer the former style and finding those that like the slower GFE (kiss, cuddle, talk, massage-the things that you do with a girlfriend. But not all things I understand) are few and far between. Again my age is probably showing but I just think there is more to sex than getting in and getting out.

    While I do agree with you that we are all sick of paying good money for less than stellar service to me just because she isn't a BB GFE doesn't mean she is providing less than stellar service to MY standards. Yes upselling, shorting time, fake pics. Yes I agree with you.

    So the pics for 'non' GFE' ladies aren't a waste of my time and isn't sucking me in. If I like what I see I call and ask if she does do what I like. If yes great if not that's fine too. Besides I do appreciate seeing cute and sexy girls even if I'm not going to go out and see them. Again that's just me appreciating one of god's creations.

    Just a few cents from good ole SO. BTW if anyone does know any ladies of the type I mentioned please let me know! SO

  11. #4294

    It's all relative!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cpcdman  [View Original Post]
    "

    Great pics but to bad she's not GFE.

    You can show all the "spread" shot's you want to suck in all of us you want but when a lady isn't GFE honestly don't waste our time.

    I just looked on the RT website and I'd like to know what is "light GFE" that's a new acronym.

    Either a lady is GFE or she's not. Everything I've heard about her is that she rushes appointment's and she upsells.

    So typical of RT girls.

    Kat can say what she wants,"Well if you booked her through us she'd be GFE", that's BS.

    I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired of paying good money for less than stellar service.

    Just my 2 cents.
    Hi CpCdMan. As usual appreciate the cents you threw in. I would like to add a disclaimer to what you said though. You said that unless a girl is GFE don't waste our time. And I acknowledge that most are probavbly looking for that. Well I for one am not looking for a lady that is GFE in the literal SBS so the pics and descriptions are not a waste of time to me and I'm sure many others. (and please let's not get into the whole argument about what is and what isn't as I've been through a thousand of them in my 30+ years doing this.) My wishes are simple and maybe it comes with age but I am not a fan of BB anyway. To me covered is certainly fine and doesn't take away from the session. There are many reasons for it including the fact that it is not necessary for me to enjoy the session but simply put I wish to be on the 'safer' side of things. It has nothing to do with the girl but I have known several that were with a 'clean' lady and ended up with a take home. In both cases the lady had been tested very recently and been clean. So anything can happen and is not worth my waiting 3 weeks for something to happen or not.

    For me a great session involves a nice massage, kiss and cuddle time (doesn't have to be DFK) , some conversation and a nice climax to a successful ending. It doesn't have to be 'hot, groping, sweaty, fall off the bed sex'. I've actually had a few sesions where it was mostly a 'petting' session and we got lost in it and never got to the ending and it was just as enjoyable as others. (Deb can attest to that. LOL)

    Of course the problem is that most of the ladies out there prefer the former style and finding those that like the slower GFE (kiss, cuddle, talk, massage-the things that you do with a girlfriend. But not all things I understand) are few and far between. Again my age is probably showing but I just think there is more to sex than getting in and getting out.

    While I do agree with you that we are all sick of paying good money for less than stellar service to me just because she isn't a BB GFE doesn't mean she is providing less than stellar service to MY standards. Yes upselling, shorting time, fake pics. Yes I agree with you.

    So the pics for 'non' GFE' ladies aren't a waste of my time and isn't sucking me in. If I like what I see I call and ask if she does do what I like. If yes great if not that's fine too. Besides I do appreciate seeing cute and sexy girls even if I'm not going to go out and see them. Again that's just me appreciating one of god's creations.

    Just a few cents from good ole SO. BTW if anyone does know any ladies of the type I mentioned please let me know! SO

  12. #4293

    Don't take offense

    No, you're right I haven't seen any of your girls, but I have 2 very good friends who have and I know what they tell me is the truth they have no reason to lie.

    The only lady that you represent that was a true GFE experience and a wonderful young lady was Autumn you can read her 2 reviews and most likely figure out who one of my friends is. I will in the very near future make an appointment to see Autumn based on what I've been told but your other ladies that my friends have seen I will pass on.

    I guess everyone is looking for something different but for me and the other hobbiest's I know are all looking for GFE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kit Kat  [View Original Post]
    Believe it or not, but there are gentlemen who are not looking for GFE.

    As for your other comments, I take great offense, especially from someone who I don't believe has ever actually been a client of ours (please correct me if I'm wrong). If you have a specific issue with one of my girls who you have actually seen yourself, then please tell me, and I'll do what I can to fix it. But please do not make such general statements about girls that you have never met. If you're looking for GFE, please mention that when booking your appointment. If you're trying to schedule with a girl who is not GFE, we'll suggest you see someone else. If you still decide to see her, don't complain you weren't happy because she wasn't GFE. It's like buying a sports car instead of a pickup truck, and then complaining that it can't tow your trailer.

    Xoxo Kat oxox

  13. #4292
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    Posts: 2080
    I'm 100% with BaconBits here. If they are over 18 we shouldn't be worrying about their parents. People differ, their life paths differ. Some are born president's children, others are born into families and / or end up in such situations when becoming a provider is far from the worst outcome. The fact that Choir Boy may not be able to relate to it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. After all chances are Choir Boy can't relate to being a president's kid too. It doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

    It happens trust me and usually it happens when people are between 13 & 20.

    I have little doubt that Kat with her apparent organizational skills and diligence checks to make sure that they're all over 18 and unlike us she knows their real names. I wouldn't concern myself with her parents if I'd be you Choir Boy. I'd think of what would she be doing if she hadn't had a body to sell. Think about all the male children that end up in similar situation and don't have that option. I bet you wouldn't want to run into them at night. Chances are, Katie on the other hand is pretty harmless.

    And teachers? What teachers?

    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits  [View Original Post]
    No offense. But the moral dilemma you are having seemed to have happened after you logged in, clicked on the forum and then clicked on the pics. You might want to not watch football if you can't stand men hitting each other. Likewise, don't click on escort reviews if seeing hot young ladies bothers you.

    What would her parents think? What would your parents or significant other think if you were paying to touch strange woman? You may want to answer the later first.

    BB

  14. #4291
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    Look, obviously if there is a gray area the providers or their handlers will try to play with it to turn it to their advantage. It's only natural. It's called spinning your business and complaining about it is pointless.

    The other acronyms like BBBJ, DFK and the like have no gray area about them. If you want real GFE experience don't ask if she offers GFE, ask if she offers DFK. To me, that's a sign of quality of time you're going to have. Even if you don't like to DFK, if she doesn't offer DFK. Chances are you're going to be singing Domo arigato, Ms. Rob&1086; to After you leave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Usedj  [View Original Post]
    GFE.

    Full GFE.

    Light GFE.

    GFE +

    Or whatever the modifier around the "GFE"

    The things is that by seeing it at their web sites or in their ads, you almost know what you would expect. For some people, they care more about if the girl is "Hot" or not to their standard. For me, I care less about DATY or CBJ or BBBJ, of course it's nicer to have BBBJ than CBJ, but the hotness takes over for the decision.

  15. #4290

    GFE or.

    GFE.

    Full GFE.

    Light GFE.

    GFE +

    Or whatever the modifier around the "GFE"

    The things is that by seeing it at their web sites or in their ads, you almost know what you would expect. For some people, they care more about if the girl is "Hot" or not to their standard. For me, I care less about DATY or CBJ or BBBJ, of course it's nicer to have BBBJ than CBJ, but the hotness takes over for the decision.

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