"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**AliasSM** · 02-29-12 23:28

It's great to see a few new contributors to the forum, and that some of the old pros are still providing advice and encouragement. I don't have much else to contribute since last week. The warden is back in the house and opportunities have to be carefully scheduled. I got my first "not sure if I can continue to do this" message from a 30 yo that I have been seeing occasionally since November. She wouldn't have lasted much longer in my lineup anyway, but it was interesting to hear her reasons that our meetings were starting to get to her conscience.

My mid-20s hot blond SB that has been playing hard to get does at least continue to correspond with email new have only met once and she the FC is still but a distant dream. I've been trying to line up that important 2nd meeting all week before the trail gets too cold, but without success.

Scott, I'll be in your fine city next week on business. Let me know if there is any discards that you feel like tossing my way to make my week go faster. I'll have to delay any more playing around the home town for another week until inget back to town.

No dates set for this week. And I'm in withdrawal. You all didn't warn me that this hobby is so habit forming.

Stay safe and keep the posts coming.

Alias

**Mr Strict** · 02-29-12 21:11

Hello all. Been lurking on the thread for a few months now and decided it's time to contribute. Like others before, I found the thread by accident, found it incredibly fascinating and read it cover to cover. Since then, I have PM'D several senior thread members with comment and questions and even created an account on one of the popular SD / SB sites. And while it's been strange at times, it continues to be a hell of a ride and loads of fun! The results so far:

MSSB#1."24" y / o, tall, thin, gorgeous AA baby in Richmond. I write "24" because upon getting her phone number, the standard Google search turned up her true name, age and address. She is actually 28 but she looks 24 so I'm good with it. Met at local notel suggested by her, talked like old friends, drank wine and played naked games. Has the most incredibly perfect tits I've have played with in some time! She was pretty good but had weird rules (no head without a medical clearance but I could deposit my load wherever I wanted on the outside. Really?) She was more semi-pro than a true UTR SB but she was fun, we clicked and damage was ok. Will see again at some point as a fill in.

MSSB#2. 43 y / o, tall, thin, blond hair, blue eyed MILF. She really wanted to meet so we set up a quick "meet and drink" because of time constraints. She was much prettier than her pics, we clicked, had a great time hanging out, made out and groped in car, and then the weirdness started. First of all, for the entire time, she kept getting texts every 10 minutes. Finally she said it was her daughter. She wanted to know how it was going because she knew mom was out on a "date" to meet her first SD! Apparently, she told everyone what she is doing. Kids. Aunts. Friends. Everyone! Yikes! Then the subject of sugar came up. And since she was sitting on my lap in the car, it was rather hard to deflect that one. Now, this lady is in real straits. Not a Nando-1 type, but lost her job, in a horrible divorce and lives with relatives. When I offered $$, she reacted like I kicked her in the flower! B*tch is poor as hell and she was apparently insulted? Really? Oh, did I mention she has 6 kids! Not exactly HYB material but whatever. So we talked, worked it out and agreed to meet later. And I will meet her later because we clicked and she does seem to have skills (see 6 kids above).

So, still trying to fill up my line up card and hoping one day to be like Mr. Scott. Thanks to all for the great information passed and I will try to contribute whatever info I can to the effort in the future.

**BigTigger** · 02-29-12 20:26

Ok, so I'm obviously keeping myself way too busy. Today I get a reply to my CL ad from 2 latinas. One was ok, but the other was very pretty. Here is the link to the non-pro post. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post1393246

Anyway, right when I'm thinking that I'm on an incredible string of success. Then the stunning. I mean "stunning" to the point of making me uncomfortable and intimidated TB that I referred too many posts ago http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post1370427, texts me back, I call her and we talk and the chemistry picks up right where we left of. It's spring break next week, so opportunities abound. She has a nice personality and a body to die for. 5'7, spinner with curves. Ooohhh MY. I had almost given up on her. Anyway we have a normal date setup for Monday and I'm just happy to get her attention for those few hours. This one is a long term investment, our last date was over a month ago. My head is still spinning, just thinking about tasting that pudding. Wow!

So let me recap:

Thurs. Tiggabounce with hottie in Richmond ($)

Fri. Tiggabounce with 20 year old in Md (.4)

Sun. Meet-and-greet with 2 Latinas looking for a SD. They come as a pair. Wooohooo (.4)

Mon. Lunch date with Ms so damn beautiful (.40)

Mon night. Tiggabounce with TB who's a little chubby, but great personality. (.4)

Next Thurs. Evening date with brick house TB in NJ. (.60 she's driving 2 hours each way. If she gets the Tiggabounce, then $.5)

-This is how I keep from getting too obsessed with one.

This board has been great, it's going to be my downfall at some point, but until then, look out for T. I. Double. Ger. Er!

BigTigg

**Spitfire** · 02-29-12 19:35

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

Thanks for helping me to keep things in a lighter perspective. Like, OMG, I was so totally stressing out about this!

I had planned to keep the appointment in any event. Although these babies are playing at grown-up games, it is important to remember, at least in this case, that she is barely 21. I think I am prepared for most eventualities, with the possible exception of "I want to have your baby". Brrr, that one gives me the willies!

I am guessing, like life, it will be more complicated than any of us can surmise from the outside. We are having lunch at that gastro-pub / inn that I have posted about before. My thinking here is that if it is a kiss-off, at least I will have a great lunch, and if it is not, perhaps they will have a room for us.

At least I have my Polo mom to look forward to on Monday. I have informed her of my desire to change venues and she is down with that."I'll bring some candles" is about the only thing she said that I can genteelly quote here, but she apparently has a keen interest in the Wild West, as she mentioned something about riding little Scottie like a bronco. Yay! Or should I say "yippee ki yi yay"?

What a life!

Scott

Good Luck. I suspect the topic will be along the lines of 'I have strong feelings for you', followed up by a large financial request. Cynical, I know!

**F Scott** · 02-29-12 18:12

Originally Posted by Hernando [View Original Post]

" Scot, you have been so important to me for months and I really care about you.but I must move on with my life because my parents said I can't date anyone over 25.Life is soooooUNFAIR! I HATE my parents! They just don't understand! Anyway-I hope you understand. SNIFF! I LOVE you SCOTT.I will NEVER forget you! SNIFF!

Gentlemen,

Thanks for helping me to keep things in a lighter perspective. Like, OMG, I was so totally stressing out about this!

I had planned to keep the appointment in any event. Although these babies are playing at grown-up games, it is important to remember, at least in this case, that she is barely 21. I think I am prepared for most eventualities, with the possible exception of "I want to have your baby". Brrr, that one gives me the willies!

I am guessing, like life, it will be more complicated than any of us can surmise from the outside. We are having lunch at that gastro-pub / inn that I have posted about before. My thinking here is that if it is a kiss-off, at least I will have a great lunch, and if it is not, perhaps they will have a room for us.

At least I have my Polo mom to look forward to on Monday. I have informed her of my desire to change venues and she is down with that. "I'll bring some candles" is about the only thing she said that I can genteelly quote here, but she apparently has a keen interest in the Wild West, as she mentioned something about riding little Scottie like a bronco. Yay! Or should I say "yippee ki yi yay"?

What a life!

Scott

**Magic Rat** · 02-29-12 17:38

"Get A Room". FYI I'm working at home today and the SO dropped by very unexpectedly. I really am working, but I would never chance that in my place or hers. It's definitely worth the $50 or whatever.

Nando. Man you're scaring the shit out of me and I'm not even the one involved! Good luck Scott! We've all either been there or will be if we continue in this little pastime we love.

**Hernando** · 02-29-12 17:13

-she has been doing some deep thinking and has some things she wants to say to me."

Well Scotty, the time you have wished for perhaps is nigh. Don't forget, you were / are crazily in lust with this girl. Hear her out and don't make any relationship changing statements at the moment. Give yourself time to absorb things. Now to me, it sounds like a kiss off. She might have been thinking that she owes you more since you had such a great relationship for so long. So it could go like this " Scot, you have been so important to me for months and I really care about you.but I must move on with my life because my parents said I can't date anyone over 25.Life is soooooUNFAIR! I HATE my parents! They just don't understand! Anyway-I hope you understand. SNIFF! I LOVE you SCOTT.I will NEVER forget you! SNIFF! Dude.don't miss that appointment. You need to keep us posted!

On the other hand, it could go something like this. Daddy-I have been thinking a lot about US, and I have realized how much I love you. When do you think the divorce can be final? I really want to have your baby!

Don't miss that APPOINTMENT!

**F Scott** · 02-29-12 16:44

Originally Posted by BigTigger [View Original Post]

Dude, get a room. If something goes wrong, you will be so mad you did not spend the money on a room. Don't let the pudding cause you to take unnecessary risks. Ask yourself if you are ok with the worse case scenario (hubby comes home and has weapons in the house). Not to mention you lose the ability to be completely worry free at her place.

BigTigg

Tigger,

I will do as you say. I had never thought of the possibility of hubby coming home for a quick one and finding little Scottie in his spot. Awkward!

Thanks,

Scott

**BigTigger** · 02-29-12 16:29

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

I am scheduled to visit my Polo baby on Monday. The kids will be in school, the husband will be at work, and she promises that I will be drained bone dry by the time I leave her house. Life is good!

Scott

Dude, get a room. If something goes wrong, you will be so mad you did not spend the money on a room. Don't let the pudding cause you to take unnecessary risks. Ask yourself if you are ok with the worse case scenario (hubby comes home and has weapons in the house). Not to mention you lose the ability to be completely worry free at her place.

BigTigg

**F Scott** · 02-29-12 15:58

Gentlemen,

I am scheduled to visit my Polo baby on Monday. The kids will be in school, the husband will be at work, and she promises that I will be drained bone dry by the time I leave her house. Life is good!

Scott

**Member #5055** · 02-29-12 11:02

Got WB3 now firmly on the hook.

Nice 30's divorced and just in her first apartment by herself. Is not interested in any long term problems, and is after married men who will be discrete, give her what she needs physically, and also some financial help as she has got herself an apartment that is a little too much for her $$ comfort!

Met her outside her apartment complex as I was in the area, she definitely liked me (you can tell when they want you) and I can tell she wants to get in the FC soon! Once she gives me her schedule we will fix a time and I will report afterwards.

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As far as my $$ tactics, after reading this thread, I basically followed much of the advice:

1. Never discuss sugar during first messages on SA.

2. If the SB does bring it up, respond with "I really do not like to discuss sugar, but let me say I am a generous man, and we both have to be comfortable with each other"

3. Once we meet in the FC, I assess the sugar donation. Generally I leave. 8 to $ for older MILFs, but I suspect CSB that are YH would be more $.5 ish.

4. In a nutshell, I start LOW, if they do complain, I can say I will do more next time. That is assuming there is a next time for some! Many seem VERY happy with the. 8.

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This is fun. I can see why you all enjoy it. It is the chase. The pursuit. Of course we are not as honorable as we should be. But it is about the FC. Right!

Happy Fishing.

GW

**BigTigger** · 02-29-12 02:43

Had 3rd date with my new #1 hottie. 29 yr old in in Richmond. Dinner, movies nothing extravagant. Thanks to mother nature could not get my groove on. Funny thing is, she's not much into dfk until she has slept with a person, very different. She is however beautiful and let my hands do plenty of roaming. Next date is hotel date. Damage was. 40 and I put some gas in her tank.

BigTigg

**Zman429** · 02-29-12 02:19

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

I have a luncheon set with my ATF for Thursday, at which we are going to have a heart-to-heart about "us." Apparently she is not pregnant, thank you baby Jesus, but she has been doing some deep thinking and has some things she wants to say to me.

I am not entirely sure what this portends, but here is where I'm at currently: if she didn't want to see me anymore, she could have stayed invisible. While I know her last name, where she lives and where she works, I would not have run her to ground. What would that have served?

Conversely, if she were just looking for money, why the ominous-sounding agenda?

My thoughts she's either going to drama sell you on more money or let you go otherwise it'd be business as usual. I agree with golfcart, cancel and let her go you're way to involved, FYI been there done that more than once. Including with a girl that looked just like the office hottie I used to work with.

**Zman429** · 02-29-12 02:08

Originally Posted by UKnowWho [View Original Post]

Hey guys, after checking out this thread from time to time for a while, I'm dipping my toe in the water on SA and have a few questions I hope I can get your opinions on.

One is whether you guys think, discretion concerns aside, sharing your pic with a potential SB is a good idea or not. I've been making plans to meet one PYT for dinner tomorrow night, but in the email I sent her to set the time for our meeting, I also let her see a photo of me, thinking it might make her more comfortable. Now I haven't heard back from her and I'm worried she was expecting George Clooney or something. Have you found it to work better to not send a pic and hope to charm her in person?

The second is about the flow of girls on the site. I notice in my search results that the vast majority of the girls haven't logged in in a month or more, and their last login usually isn't too far from their signup month. Do you think this is because they've found an SD and are no longer looking (but may be back in the future) , or because they weren't finding what they wanted on the site and gave up? Basically I'm wondering whether it's a waste to look through and contact older profiles.

Thanks

SA is free to the babies so I suggest concentrating on babies that have logged on recently. You might also find the older profiles are better.

**UKnowWho** · 02-29-12 01:30

Hey guys, after checking out this thread from time to time for a while, I'm dipping my toe in the water on SA and have a few questions I hope I can get your opinions on.

One is whether you guys think, discretion concerns aside, sharing your pic with a potential SB is a good idea or not. I've been making plans to meet one PYT for dinner tomorrow night, but in the email I sent her to set the time for our meeting, I also let her see a photo of me, thinking it might make her more comfortable. Now I haven't heard back from her and I'm worried she was expecting George Clooney or something. Have you found it to work better to not send a pic and hope to charm her in person?

The second is about the flow of girls on the site. I notice in my search results that the vast majority of the girls haven't logged in in a month or more, and their last login usually isn't too far from their signup month. Do you think this is because they've found an SD and are no longer looking (but may be back in the future) , or because they weren't finding what they wanted on the site and gave up? Basically I'm wondering whether it's a waste to look through and contact older profiles.

Thanks