"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[LuckyLou]

Lou,

Please elaborate.

Scott

I may have used the term inappropriately but basically I mean don't put anything out on the net. Any service that hosts your information (google, yahoo, microsoft, whatever) will retain it forever and you have no control over it. If you have a journal on your laptop or a thumb drive it can "disappear" quickly and permanently if need be. Just because you are using firefox in private mode does not mean that your IP Address isn't being tracked by the sites you go to. Everything comes back to that IP Address when someone with an agenda wants to go looking. At least that is my understanding of how things work.

LL

[Spitfire]

A link to some potentially useful apps if you have a smart phone.

http://madamenoire.com/79635/7-trifl...shouldnt-have/

[Fixinit]

Fix, I'the say you have a first class SB on your hands.

Expect to be two-timed (just like she is being) , expect it to be happening right now, it goes with the territory, so take what you get for what it is, making it easier to keep your emotions in check, and don't sweat anything.

Have a good time for as long as it lasts, expecting that it will not, because it won't.

Being a bachelor I am able to keep a diary of events with no difficulty. I find it alerts me to a trend taking shape before I would otherwise notice.

Read all 50 pages of this board. You will see yourself in many of the situations. It will help you see around the corners.

I appreciate your advice Golfcart. I understand what it is but it is hard not to get emotionally involved. I am going to ride it out and enjoy it the most I can.

I have been reading up on the entire thread and this information is very helpful.

Welcome to the Sugar Board Fix. We look forward to your contributions.

Sounds like you stumbled into a Sugar Daddy situation without knowing it years ago. It sounds great for you and hopefully you can keep it going. She is dirt cheap in the sugar world so enjoy that. One word of advice, don't pay her more for longer sessions, like overnight. You don't want her to value herself by the hour. Although, it has been going on for two years so you must have honed this relationship pretty well.

You are correct. I never really knew much about the Sugar Daddy world until I came across this thread. Hopefully it continues how it is going.

Not knowing it I have been good about keeping the donation fairly consistent. I actually just got back from the first overnight with her and she was good with $.

I do give her an advance from time to time, which I know I shouldn't, but she has always made good on it.

Fix,

Both are legendary and mythical and I believe you have stumbled on both. Enjoy it and live for the moment. Much of what Golf Cart says is probably true but we all create our own realities to a certain degree so I prefer to take a more Zen view and accept whatever comes my way. Send a note every once and a while from the promised land to keep all of us other grunts on the front lines motivated and inspired.

LL

I do think I have found a good situation and will do my best to keep it going. The first overnight was a great time and am looking forward to the next one.

Have fun and thanks for all of the valuable information.

Fix

[F Scott]

At least not in the Cloud. You are only asking for trouble.

Lou,

Please elaborate.

Scott

[LuckyLou]

Golf,

You've just given me an idea. I have an SD-dedicated email account with yahoo that I try and get the babies to use rather than the site. I only access it on-line using Firefox private browsing, so I'm pretty sure there is nothing resident on my computer once I log off. There is a notepad and calendar function with the account. This might be a good place to keep such information as you are describing, along with phone numbers, etc. I also have a pay-as-you-go phone, but it that were ever discovered by my SO, I'd have lots of 'splainin' to do.

I throw this out to the collected wisdom of the brotherhood: how do you all handle the storage of this kind of information?

Scott

At least not in the Cloud. You are only asking for trouble.

[Varoom]

Sum. Be*tch Golf.

I was wondering when the movie is coming out on these 1200 pages. Then I read that ALL notes are not on the Golfster's escapades. Still impressive; nice work.

Mine is a word document on my laptop and is currently 1,200 pages. I do a back up every night using a keychain drive and even email myself a copy as an attachment before going to bed. I enter things using certain phrases so the search feature will be effective.

Understand that's not 1,200 pages of personal conquests.

[F Scott]

Golf,

You've just given me an idea. I have an SD-dedicated email account with yahoo that I try and get the babies to use rather than the site. I only access it on-line using Firefox private browsing, so I'm pretty sure there is nothing resident on my computer once I log off. There is a notepad and calendar function with the account. This might be a good place to keep such information as you are describing, along with phone numbers, etc. I also have a pay-as-you-go phone, but it that were ever discovered by my SO, I'd have lots of 'splainin' to do.

I throw this out to the collected wisdom of the brotherhood: how do you all handle the storage of this kind of information?

Scott

[Golfcart]

Got it! I am that way at work. I call it my "daybook." I've got 32 years worth of them, and it is invaluable, as you say, to go back and track down some useful piece of information or idea. If I kept a Baby daybook, it could easily wind up as Exhibit A in my divorce proceedings!

Scott

Mine is a word document on my laptop and is currently 1,200 pages. I do a back up every night using a keychain drive and even email myself a copy as an attachment before going to bed. I enter things using certain phrases so the search feature will be effective.

Understand that's not 1,200 pages of personal conquests.

[F Scott]

I don't know about being provocative or intreguing. I've always been a note-taker and I simply jot down notes of all my interactions, phone conversations, time together, in chronological order. Probably 90% is summarizing what she says. It's my way of listening to her, of being mindful of her point of view on this or that. As the relationship evolves my notes evolve.

There was an occasion in the past I thought I was being played by a girl. I went back to my notes and saw signs of it earlier that I hadn't picked up on myself. So I knew. It wasn't just a suspicion. I knew it was time to disappear.

Got it! I am that way at work. I call it my "daybook." I've got 32 years worth of them, and it is invaluable, as you say, to go back and track down some useful piece of information or idea. If I kept a Baby daybook, it could easily wind up as Exhibit A in my divorce proceedings!

Scott

[Golfcart]

Golf,

This is a provocative and intriguing statement. Please expand. What trends do you notice, and then how do you respond?

Scott

I don't know about being provocative or intreguing. I've always been a note-taker and I simply jot down notes of all my interactions, phone conversations, time together, in chronological order. Probably 90% is summarizing what she says. It's my way of listening to her, of being mindful of her point of view on this or that. As the relationship evolves my notes evolve.

There was an occasion in the past I thought I was being played by a girl. I went back to my notes and saw signs of it earlier that I hadn't picked up on myself. So I knew. It wasn't just a suspicion. I knew it was time to disappear.

[Hernando]

So Scott, what did you decide to do about the vixen threatening the sanctity of your ATF? Ironically we are true to our lovers but not to our wives. It is a very Latin thing. I felt so guilty stepping out on my ATF that I closed down the shop and am true to just her.

SA seems to have a higher quality girl than SD4me.at least as far as education and absence of drama. I like their Blog that someone directed me to. Thanks. When I see the Drama queens on the SD site it sends chills down my spine. I can't ever imagine going back to the Skanky Hos I used to see. But I guess I should never say never.

[F Scott]

Hey Nine and Buck,

Welcome to the wonderful world of Sugar Babies! It is, as you say, so far superior to the escort / MP scene, that I predict once you are a true convert, you will never even think of them again. Take the time to read the entire thread, if you have not already. There is a wealth of invaluable information here to help you in your pursuit of these elusive creatures.

Also, unlike many threads on the forum, you will find that everyone here is more than willing to share intel, techniques, approaches etc. The only request is that you reciprocate when you have valuable information of your own.

Good luck to you both. It takes time, patience and thought to be successful, but the payoff is well worth it.

All the best,

Scott

[BuckDancer]

This thread amazes me. As an attached man in Charlottesville, I've been trying to find the.

Elusive baby in town. I figure there has to be a couple in a college town right?

I will keep reading and researching and at least living vicariously thru you fellas.

For now. Wish me luck in my hunting.

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[NineBalling]

I just want to thank this board for putting the spark back into my sex life. I am from the Hampton Roads area and the escort scene down here is as slim to nil. Most are 30-something, dried-up old bar flies. Recently, I just got bored with the escort scene. The waiting in the hotel parking lots, the obvious treat of LE always looming, the blah blah blah just got too fucking tedious. Even got to the point where even while I was banging some escort, I was trying my damnest just to cum and get out of there.

This board inspired me to try out the SA site. Been on there almost one month and have already had a fuck session with a 23 year old college student. The experience was sooooo much better than the supposed "GFE" those high volumn escorts provide.

And the funny thing is I enjoy the "chase" almost as much as the actual sex. Each girl is different, and you have to be crafty to read them, talk them up the right way to get the panties off. Reminds me of my college frat party days.

You guys rock! Thanks a ton for the board which allowed me to hit the SA site not totally blind and green. I have used some of the techniques that are scattered throughout the posts. I have a couple of good prospects on the line as we speak. Good possibility that I will get "willy" wet again this weekend!

[CantWinLosin]

What happens is this. When you cancel your membership you get top posted as if you were brand new. That tends to generate a lot more hits. Much like the babies, new guys get the most hits. I also think they have scam profiles on their as well to induce you back but that's just a theory.

SA is not a bad fishing ground but I have found the women on it, particularly in Philly / NYC (I live in Philly) tend to have huge expectations of allowances and are not as willing with time. My best success has ironically been waitresses at diners and lower end chains. They usually really need money and if you take time to build a bond and then broach the topic, they are much more willing and it is much more fun.

This is not exclusive to SA, or the SB sites. *ALL* of the dating, friend-finder and similar sites do it too; it's the attempt to lure you back to paying status. Example: I was a paying member of Match dot com for a couple of years. Sent a lot of emails, but only got new-contact emails from women about once every 6 months or so. HUGE waste of money. So I canceled. Within a week, I got a notice that I had received an email on the site, which of course I had to pay another month's worth to even see who sent it. And of course it was from some lady out of state, with a very generic "liked your profile" line. What a scam. So I updated my profile to clearly indicate that I was dropping my paying membership because it was a ripoff and would not be able to read any emails sent to me, and again canceled. Within a week I got another email, which I ignored. That was well over a year ago. And about every other month, just like clockwork, I get notified of another new email on that site, which I also ignore. I've read articles where the guy who started Match admitted to several of this sort of schemes, and he acknowledged that it's SOP for all the pay sites. It's after all a for-profit business.