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[Member #4772]

Hi has anyone tried Stacy or provider?

http://www.playtimeescorts.com/model...713/Stacy.html

She has a couple of good reviews from the other boards

[Pubb69]

I learned a long time ago that posting here probably wasn't one of my wiser decisions. It's very obviously a "boys club", and once the novelty of having a girl around wears off, and she actually starts speaking, that becomes very apparent. Some of you are obviously more accepting than others, but there are others who seem to resent having a providers view around here. Maybe it makes them nervous thinking that a provider they've seen may say something about them, or maybe it just interferes with their own issues by giving a voice to the women they've learned to objectify (this does go both ways, as many providers also objectify their clients as well). But in spite of knowing that it often isn't a good idea to post, because some will find fault with whatever I do, I still find myself being drawn to it. Maybe I'm just too stubborn for my own good. Or maybe I'm actually trying to improve my business by getting feedback from my clients, and offering them insight into why there are some areas in which progress may be slow, or in which I simply have no control. Or maybe it's a combination of the two, which honestly is the most likely.

Yes, I have had issues with girls in the past. But so has every other agency out there. If anyone knows where I can find a bunch of young attractive women who are all willing to work, so that I can interview them all and only pick out the best, please let me know. Preferably without having to resort to traveling to other countries, or dealing with certain organizations who bring women from other countries for that purpose. Until that happens, I have to work with what I get. If you guys only knew how many girls I turn down weekly that are looking for employment. I'd say only one in ten actually seems good enough for me to work with them, sadly at least 50% of them turn out to not have been worth my time. But I try to give people a chance to prove themselves, Jack says that's one of my biggest faults.

To paraphrase Professor Bernardo de la Paz; I try to live perfectly in an imperfect world, aware that my effort will be less than perfect yet undismayed by self-knowledge of self-failure.

Xoxo Kat oxox

Maybe your just full of shit.

[Needf]

Hi has anyone tried Stacy or provider?

http://www.playtimeescorts.com/model...713/Stacy.html

[Kit Kat]

Having gone missing for a day or two I just thought I'd catch up a bit and as usual throw in a couple of cents. As any LT poster / lurker knows I have certainly had my differences with KK over time but I have ALWAYS respected her for posting here. As can be seen by reading some of the responses no matter what she says she will be praised for her honesty or villified for her thoughts. It seems that most providers who do post quickly learn it is not a wise thing to do.

I learned a long time ago that posting here probably wasn't one of my wiser decisions. It's very obviously a "boys club", and once the novelty of having a girl around wears off, and she actually starts speaking, that becomes very apparent. Some of you are obviously more accepting than others, but there are others who seem to resent having a providers view around here. Maybe it makes them nervous thinking that a provider they've seen may say something about them, or maybe it just interferes with their own issues by giving a voice to the women they've learned to objectify (this does go both ways, as many providers also objectify their clients as well). But in spite of knowing that it often isn't a good idea to post, because some will find fault with whatever I do, I still find myself being drawn to it. Maybe I'm just too stubborn for my own good. Or maybe I'm actually trying to improve my business by getting feedback from my clients, and offering them insight into why there are some areas in which progress may be slow, or in which I simply have no control. Or maybe it's a combination of the two, which honestly is the most likely.

Yes, I have had issues with girls in the past. But so has every other agency out there. If anyone knows where I can find a bunch of young attractive women who are all willing to work, so that I can interview them all and only pick out the best, please let me know. Preferably without having to resort to traveling to other countries, or dealing with certain organizations who bring women from other countries for that purpose. Until that happens, I have to work with what I get. If you guys only knew how many girls I turn down weekly that are looking for employment. I'd say only one in ten actually seems good enough for me to work with them, sadly at least 50% of them turn out to not have been worth my time. But I try to give people a chance to prove themselves, Jack says that's one of my biggest faults.

To paraphrase Professor Bernardo de la Paz; I try to live perfectly in an imperfect world, aware that my effort will be less than perfect yet undismayed by self-knowledge of self-failure.

Xoxo Kat oxox

[Joe Fish]

I've spoken with quite a few providers, both with RT and independent or with other agencies, and I stand by my comment that it's a matter of acting. I'd say that 40% is a good estimate of those who are good enough to fool the vast majority of clients.

Xoxo Kat oxox

Well, I guess we'll have to disagree on the subject and move forward. Having said that, if you happen to hire any new, good-looking actresses that can play a hott girlfriend role to the max, let me know. Maybe you should advertise RT online in Hollywood. Just a thought. Have a great day Kat.

[Nrlmus]

Send me an email, and we'll see if we can work something out. Assuming you'd like to see me or one of my girls of course.

Which according to DSM-IV is a symptom of Dissociative Disorders. Maybe the best providers are the ones that are the most screwed up. The ones who can act so well, that they can even fool themselves.

Xoxo Kat oxox

I may at some point take you up on that. It's obviously got to also be an in-call.

In regards to your other assertion, well, I'm reckon you yourself might agree that it also depends a bit on a client. I reckon that with some clients you yourself behave differently then with others. It's only human.

As for the best being the most screwed up? Oh, that's a sure 'no'. Some I'm sure are screwed up no matter how they behave but the best usually are the ones who get a kick out of the whole situation. Of the fact that they're doing something "naughty", adventurous, or in any which way they want to think of it. Who do it, as I read,"for the love of art". I personally met only 2 that would qualify here. One I knew intimately (as a friend) , so there is no reason to think she was faking since when she was talking about her clients, her eyes lit up with such a sexual energy that I had a hard time controlling our "friendship". The other one was definitely not faking too.

But those are relatively rare. By the data gathered from anonymously surveying chicks in Moscow, they are about 15% They imagine themselves as "mysterious ladies of the night", the alter ego of all women, the ones that can provide men with that "experience of a lifetime". I'd say that on that probably no more then about 25% of them are actually right, since women often skew their ideas of what men want to their own desires. That by the way, also includes most of the working girls who try to make sure that when you leave them you're thinking exactly in that way. Most of clients however, I reckon would still be happy from the sheer appreciation of her effort, even if with that the girl goes into a totally wrong direction.

As for the most screwed up, well, of course, that's the ones with enormous guilt trips, that have a great beef with the way their lives turned out, and would definitely rather do something else but still can't handle the office routine all the same, or are on drugs or. Whatever.

[Stressed Out]

Having gone missing for a day or two I just thought I'd catch up a bit and as usual throw in a couple of cents. As any LT poster / lurker knows I have certainly had my differences with KK over time but I have ALWAYS respected her for posting here. As can be seen by reading some of the responses no matter what she says she will be praised for her honesty or villified for her thoughts. It seems that most providers who do post quickly learn it is not a wise thing to do.

TBH the whole discussion of GFE sometimes gets out of hand. While some do prefer that girl who typifies the holy grail of GFE acc to the Bart scale (BBBJ, DFK, DATY ect) those ladies are few and far between. And if you take the 'acting' ladies out of the equation (yes KK is right here) it is even far fewer. To 'verbally maim' girls for not fitting this definition (yes even for a 200 donation fee) is rather useless. If you want the true GFE they are out there. Find them. Most of the BP, Tazlist and agency ladies out there are not 'GFE' even if they advertise they are. And as far as KK's girls. Hell they are so young that they probably don't even know what it is like to be a 'girlfriend' to someone. To me personally it is more important that the person I am with just gives me the attention and is 'in the room' with me so to speak. I don't care if she is faking the 'friend / lover' part cause I got to tell ya almost oll of us gents are too. I just want an honest effort, the full time and not answer the phone and make other appointments while I'm there.

As far as advertising 'out of agency' a quick check of ads and you realize that many providers who are part of an 'agency or referral service' also advertise on their own. I'm not sure there is a fundamental way to stop that. However to me the more concerning / discerning fact would be that if a girl does advertise on her own for clients her behavior would / should be looked at. If when getting clients on her own she upsells, shorts time, doublebooks, is unsafe or acts in a negative manner that shows her 'real colors' than I would have a hard time keeping her. Not only would it show negatively on my business but it would tell me that I couldn't trust her. Again just my. 02.

[Kit Kat]

Sorry Kat but your assertion of 99% of providers 'acting' when they're offering a GFE is way off base. I'd say it's closer to 60/40 and that's just my guess, as is yours. You have no proof, other than your own experiences and your girls from RT. Unless a customer is brain-dead (which I'm sure some are that have this as a 'hobby') , one can know if a girl's having a good time with her client (not acting) or she's merely going through the motions. I can tell you personally that over the years, more than a handful of girls that offered a GFE to me were clearly enjoying themselves just as much as I was. Now if you were to say you're directing a movie and your girls were 'acting' their part, then I'd say you're right but seriously, 'making progress with GFE?" I don't buy it.

As for your claim that a provider's experience with a girl will be different if they're booked thru your agency versus via her own independent ad, why would you even bother hiring a girl who when left to her own vices upsells and double-books? That's the mentality of a girl who clearly doesn't care at all about who she's screwing, pardon the pun.

I've spoken with quite a few providers, both with RT and independent or with other agencies, and I stand by my comment that it's a matter of acting. I'd say that 40% is a good estimate of those who are good enough to fool the vast majority of clients.

Xoxo Kat oxox

[Kit Kat]

I usually don't use my real name with providers. I use allies. So if you have to match the name to the number you won't be able to allow me in.

Send me an email, and we'll see if we can work something out. Assuming you'd like to see me or one of my girls of course.

All may know that it's an act but some get into their roles so deep that they may actually turn their acting into reality.

Which according to DSM-IV is a symptom of Dissociative Disorders. Maybe the best providers are the ones that are the most screwed up. The ones who can act so well, that they can even fool themselves.

Xoxo Kat oxox

[Member #4772]

http://gabriella89.escortfiles.com/gallery

Spoke with her says her rate is $500 / hr and not full GFE.

Decided to pass.

Anyone else seen her?

It seems she was NOT getting $500 like she expected. Changed her name to Ally / Allison on BP went from outcall to incall in South Boston (Not a great area to visit). Then her rate droped to $300 then $250, then $200 and the latest is $150 for one shot and your out. Still not GFE even though she tells U on the phone she is. She also runs it like a factory one after the other.

I pass no matter how cheap the rate is

[Nrlmus]

As long as you have at least two references (which judging by your posting history shouldn't be a problem) , we really wouldn't need any personal info beyond a name and number.

I have heard of providers falling for clients before, and I know that it is fairly common. Especially among those providers with some history of abuse. Although my personal experience has been more the other way around, and I've actually had to stop taking appointments from clients who were becoming too attached. A couple of them I'd even call stalkers, and were a large part of why I had to move and stopped offering incalls.

As for knowing if a provider is faking it or not, I'll respond with a quote from Game of Thrones."You're not fooling them, they just payed you. They know what you are, they know it's all just an act. Your job is to make them forget what they know." In my opinion, being a good provider is just as much about being a good actress as it is about any physical techniques.

I've actually been meaning to watch Secret Diary of a Call Girl. I loved Billie Piper in Doctor Who (HH says I'm the hottest geek he's ever met).

Xoxo Kat oxox

I usually don't use my real name with providers. I use allies. So if you have to match the name to the number you won't be able to allow me in.

By as it may, I'm sure falling for him or for her happens both ways. Obviously more clients fall for providers then the other way around just by the sheer fact that (usually) providers see more variety of clients then clients see providers. If you look at percentages however, you'd probably find it relatively even. Also clients usually have better control on the situation then do providers. If a client feels that a provider begins to act more like GF then GFE, and he doesn't welcome it. He just doesn't call that provider anymore. The providers however would usually have a harder time getting a grip on the situation before it gets out of control because to the provider the client is a source of income. Having been on both sides of the obsessive-compulsive (not with providers but.) , I know how it feels to be obsessing over someone and to have someone be obsessing over you. Usually, there isn't much fun in either case for both parties although I've seen some exceptions.

In regards to knowing when provider is faking and when not. It depends on a provider. Some should do Hollywood, others wouldn't even be able to do Bollywood (no offense to Indian musicals intended but let's be real here). When provider is a good actress, you can get a burst of positive energy that would keep you productive and useful for months. More often then not though, we are all regular people of regular talents. Providers are no different. All may know that it's an act but some get into their roles so deep that they may actually turn their acting into reality.

Anyway, I think I get your general taste in films Kit Kat. You may actually not going to like Secret Diaries or or may like it but before watching the film what you may want to do first is to go to a bookstore and read first couple of paragraphs of Diary of a London call girl by Belle de Jour, the book that miniseries apparently follows closely. The interesting aspect of a film is something that I already knew or rather suspected. Many women actually enjoy many if not most of the aspects of being a provider. In our politically correct world one usually can't say it aloud because it goes against the gospel but you know that analogy: acts like a duck, etc. LOL

[Davehter]

As for knowing if a provider is faking it or not, I'll respond with a quote from Game of Thrones."You're not fooling them, they just payed you. They know what you are, they know it's all just an act. Your job is to make them forget what they know." In my opinion, being a good provider is just as much about being a good actress as it is about any physical techniques.

I've never met Kit Kat, and I disagree with some of the posts she makes (I believe she sometimes searches for excuses, when the reality is that other agencies do a better job getting girls, for whatever reason) , but. anyone Who quotes Game of Thrones is awesome. Period. End of story.

Plus that scene was freakin' hot.

For those that haven't seen it, google around.

[IceCreamMan33]

I'll respond with a quote from Game of Thrones."You're not fooling them, they just payed you. They know what you are, they know it's all just an act. Your job is to make them forget what they know." In my opinion, being a good provider is just as much about being a good actress as it is about any physical techniques.

I've actually been meaning to watch Secret Diary of a Call Girl. I loved Billie Piper in Doctor Who (HH says I'm the hottest geek he's ever met).

Xoxo Kat oxox

Game of Thrones, can't wait for that to start up again. We geeks need entertainment besides hobbying!

[Joe Fish]

In the "real world" you have that luxury, because if you fire someone, there are 20+ people waiting to take that job. But in this world, that's simply not the case. Finding young, attractive women willing to do this is not easy.

As for GFE, it's also not nearly so simple. As much as you would all like to believe, and as much as we try to convince you otherwise, it really is just an act 99% of the time. That is the harsh reality that very few providers will admit to clients. Acting, of any kind, takes practice and dedication. Some learn it faster than others, to some it comes easy, and some need to learn to suppress their own personality and feelings in order to outwardly become what is desired. A lot of providers actually start to develop dissociative disorders as a result of their job. I know this isn't really what you all want to hear, and the majority of you probably don't care why some girls do more than others, or why some are better than others. You just care about the results. But then that's why we're paid as well as we are, because you don't need to think about our feelings.

I'm sure that was a lot more information than expected, and I apologize if my honesty offended any of you. But I hope that I've answered your question regarding "making progress with GFE". I'm sure this will probably be one of my less popular posts, but I always try to give you guys honest answers.

Xoxo Kat oxox.

I'm sure it's a lot more than you expected, and I hope I've answered your question regarding.

Sorry Kat but your assertion of 99% of providers 'acting' when they're offering a GFE is way off base. I'd say it's closer to 60/40 and that's just my guess, as is yours. You have no proof, other than your own experiences and your girls from RT. Unless a customer is brain-dead (which I'm sure some are that have this as a 'hobby') , one can know if a girl's having a good time with her client (not acting) or she's merely going through the motions. I can tell you personally that over the years, more than a handful of girls that offered a GFE to me were clearly enjoying themselves just as much as I was. Now if you were to say you're directing a movie and your girls were 'acting' their part, then I'd say you're right but seriously, 'making progress with GFE?" I don't buy it.

As for your claim that a provider's experience with a girl will be different if they're booked thru your agency versus via her own independent ad, why would you even bother hiring a girl who when left to her own vices upsells and double-books? That's the mentality of a girl who clearly doesn't care at all about who she's screwing, pardon the pun.

[Member #5013]

I've never met Kit Kat or any of her girls. But I think she deserves a +1 for her honesty in this post. Kat, since some of us actually do care about these girls, I'd love to hear what we could say or do to help them relax, be themselves and not mess up their own heads.

I've decided to avoid the hotel-based rotating aamps because I believe it supports a system that's inherently bad for many of the woman. Maybe I am naive, but I'd like to believe it's possible to participate in this hobby in a way that is not harmful to the women I pay for pleasure. Kat's posting was a reminder to me that it's sometimes not as simple as just avoiding aamps.

You think Kat deserves a +1 because of her honesty? This person is making money off of someone selling their ass and now she deserves the Nobel peace prize? I don't know her or her ladies. I don't know or care if they are GFE ladies or not. The reality is that the providers are as messed up as we are. Bottom line. I don't expect a GFE. If it happens, cool. Otherwise, oh well.

You want a real GFE. Get a girlfriend. I want a provider to be kind, respectful and at least act like I'm in there. You guys sound pathetic crying to a pimp about why her ladies aren't hugging you afterwards.