"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Literal2** · 05-20-11 06:08

Originally Posted by Coolhand2 [View Original Post]

Met CSB6 today. After some talk, some making out, we head to the bed. She was even more stunning naked then clothed. Long hair to her waist; a J. Lo body (leaner then J. Lo but with same wide hips and great ass.) *

I had forgotten what a tight 23 year old pussy was like. * I gave her some sugar, she thanked me profusely and wanted to know when she would see me again.

Damn, Cool, that girl sounds like a FINE piece of ass. Congratulations!

**Coolhand2** · 05-20-11 00:10

Originally Posted by Literal2 [View Original Post]

She wasn't a fake after all. She has a little belly fat but is curvy and young, probably close to the 23 she claims. Can't compare with sb 18 of course, but she does love it when I make her bring her knees way up towards her chest, spread her thighs wide apart and pull her pussy lips way open so I can access her clit with my tongue. This gets her all worked up and then she moans and groans until she comes while I fuck her. Just what I needed to lighten my obsesson with sb 18.

When I was a 19 year old young man in the service, I was stationed in France. I was all gaga over my first piece of French ass. My old Sargent said to me: "Son, the best cure for really good pussy is more pussy." I guess it's still true.

**Coolhand2** · 05-20-11 00:00

Met CSB6 today. After some talk, some making out, we head to the bed. She was even more stunning naked then clothed. Long hair to her waist; a J. Lo body (leaner then J. Lo but with same wide hips and great ass.) She hasn't had kids, so the body was firm all over. I don't know where to start. When she gave oral, she showed she had wonderful skills. When she received oral, she was incredibly responsive. When I told her I wanted that pussy, she actually said to me: "I'm not sure if that's a good idea. You won't be able to stand it."

I had forgotten what a tight 23 year old pussy was like. She was right, it was all I could do to stand it. It was the best I have had in a long long time. But I had to show her that us old guys still had game so I proceeded to try to break her in half. The view of her under me with those gorgeous thighs spread wide was a glorious sight. I spent the whole time in mish because I couldn't give up that view. She was a great dirty talker, something that I love, which had me going stark raving crazy. Any way I think you get the picture. When we finished, she could hardly walk and I had muscles hurting that I forgot I had. I gave her some sugar, she thanked me profusely and wanted to know when she would see me again. I had overstayed my pass and I just made it in before the warden. I had to go sneak some aspirin before I got asked why I was acting so funny.

Lit is right about a lot of things, but one thing he is absolutely right about: that early 20's pussy is fantastic.

**Literal2** · 05-19-11 15:19

Originally Posted by Varoom [View Original Post]

Just heard this joke and it seems befitting of the SB topics discussed here. Hope you enjoy as I did.

Advice to an Old Guy.

An old guy (not in the best of shape) was working out in the gym when he spotted a sweet young thing. He asked the trainer that was nearby "What machine in here should I use to impress that sweet thing over there?"

The trainer looked him up and down and said "I would try the ATM in the lobby".

Bada Bing.

Funny and very true. Money is the best aphrodisiac.

What I'm seeing is that many sbs assume that if you are an old guy and you are on the sd site you have sugar and will spend it on them so they don't ask for it. Not all are like this of course. I think the closer to being a pro an sb is, the more likely she is to ask about sugar. The less experienced ones are uncomfortable talking about it.

**Varoom** · 05-19-11 10:53

Just heard this joke and it seems befitting of the SB topics discussed here. Hope you enjoy as I did.

Advice to an Old Guy.

An old guy (not in the best of shape) was working out in the gym when he spotted a sweet young thing. He asked the trainer that was nearby "What machine in here should I use to impress that sweet thing over there?"

The trainer looked him up and down and said "I would try the ATM in the lobby".

Bada Bing.

**Literal2** · 05-19-11 09:54

About two weeks ago I contacted 10 new sbs and fucked two of them within the week. There was no talk of sugar in advance. I exchanged 4-5 emails and a brief phone call with each before meeting them in the fucking chamber (aka hotel).

A week ago I contacted 5 new sbs. Three responded and I fucked one. Another was willing to meet at the fucking chamber after our lunch but I was no longer interested. I exchanged 4-5 emails and one brief call with each of these two. No sugar was discussed in advance, although the one I passed on did tell me how needy she was. The third was a 20 year old who dropped me after 2 emails.

Also during the past week I fucked two previously unfucked sbs with whom I had been emailing for months. In both these cases I had sent them a little sugar in advance. There were a few phone calls, one girl met with me in February but then wouldn't come to the fucking chamber. The other played phone tag endlessly and when she agreed to meet it was the hotel first time. These two sbs are my side benefits from my older approach involving lots of emailing and buttering up before zooming in on getting the girl alone somewhere Mr Johnson has access.

Both approaches can work and now two sbs I'd advanced a little sugar to long ago without success have opened their pussies.

However the newer approach has the advantage of being much quicker: 1. Contact new girl with short email praising her profile and suggesting a meeting. 2. When she asks for pic, give her code but challenge her seriousness about sb / sd relationship with someone like me. 3. If she responds positively, suggest meeting at hotel.

That's it. No mention of sugar. No beating around the bush. This has worked for me with the last four sbs. The one I passed on insisted on lunch first but knew the next step was the fucking chamber and said she would go there.

It's possible I am better looking than the average aged horned toad, but I doubt it. I may be getting good at writing short emails but this comes with practice.

**Spitfire** · 05-19-11 09:34

Originally Posted by Biggers [View Original Post]

Care to Out her so us fellow SD's don't make the same mistake with her. Or at least say what site you contacted her from and what city. We can probably figure it out from there.

Charlotte, NC on seeking arrangement. If anyone is planning to see someone from that area, PM me and I'll let you know if it's the same woman.

**Literal2** · 05-19-11 08:43

Originally Posted by Dr. Monger [View Original Post]

So do you have a recommendation for a particular SD site? You can PM me if you wish.

Well apparently on the site I am on looks matter, because of all the negative responses I get after I send it. Maybe you are just better looking than you think. Also, whether a picture is posted, or I send it, I doubt the result will be different. And I am terrible at altering photos, and definitely don't want photos of me on the web, even if password protected. Could I really get away with blurred photos? That is something I would consider.

Understood.

I am thinking that maybe a prepaid credit card is the way to go, if it will work on the site. That would render the payment untraceable (pay cash at point of origin.) Plus, if they try to bill over the amount on the card, it will get rejected. OTOH, you may not be able to use a pre-paid. I will look into it..

One sb told me she used prepaid cards on the sd4me site which is the only one I know anything about. Other mongers may find other sites work better for them.

**Literal2** · 05-19-11 08:38

Originally Posted by fscott [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

I'm not sure what I will eventually learn from this, but I have created a sugar baby profile on SA website and am getting messages like crazy. In the two hours that my "profile" has been live, mind you with no picture, I have gotten 20 emails, mostly from my area, but a couple from far out of state. What I can tell you so far is that they are all extremely sensitive and gentle. No mention of sex, no mention of anything other than having fun, finding a caring, loving relationship, etc etc. It makes me almost want to date them. LOL. They are all, to a man, multi-millionaires, by the way. I guess the point I am trying to make is that in order to snare an SB we might have to write like one.

This confirms my belief that the girls are swamped with emails from guys. So you have to stand out from the crowd if you want to snag a babe. How to do that is what we all try to figure out. One thing for sure is you need to be persisitent.

Keep up the good work on your end, and I will share any other observations I can glean from my undercover work.

Scott

Thanks for your good data but please, don't everybody rush out and create fake sb profiles.

**Literal2** · 05-18-11 19:55

She wasn't a fake after all. She has a little belly fat but is curvy and young, probably close to the 23 she claims. Can't compare with sb 18 of course, but she does love it when I make her bring her knees way up towards her chest, spread her thighs wide apart and pull her pussy lips way open so I can access her clit with my tongue. This gets her all worked up and then she moans and groans until she comes while I fuck her. Just what I needed to lighten my obsesson with sb 18.

**Dr.Monger** · 05-18-11 17:31

Originally Posted by Literal2 [View Original Post]

Interesting post, Herr Doktor. The photo helps for sure. I don't think it matters much what you look like. I suppose there are exceptions. You can put it in a password protected gallery on the sites. You can also edit the photo enough to conceal your identity if you want.

The goal should be not to throw any good money anywhere unless penetration has been achieved. Sometimes a little sugar in advance may help things along but it's a gamble.

This site is notorious for being hard to quit once you sign up. You have to weigh the good (many babes) against the bad (costly).

So do you have a recommendation for a particular SD site? You can PM me if you wish.

Well apparently on the site I am on looks matter, because of all the negative responses I get after I send it. Maybe you are just better looking than you think. Also, whether a picture is posted, or I send it, I doubt the result will be different. And I am terrible at altering photos, and definitely don't want photos of me on the web, even if password protected. Could I really get away with blurred photos? That is something I would consider.

I am thinking that maybe a prepaid credit card is the way to go, if it will work on the site. That would render the payment untraceable (pay cash at point of origin.) Plus, if they try to bill over the amount on the card, it will get rejected. OTOH, you may not be able to use a pre-paid. I will look into it.

I think a change in strategy is in order as well. I have been trying to establish something whereby a more permanent arrangement is called for, and possibly even a little travel (fuck-cations). Maybe just trying to arrange trysts in local hotels will work better. A lot to think about. And perhaps a CL post is in order again. I reviewed my mail from those efforts last night, and really it was an effective tool.

Dr. Monger.

**F Scott** · 05-18-11 14:18

Gentlemen,

I'm not sure what I will eventually learn from this, but I have created a sugar baby profile on SA website and am getting messages like crazy. In the two hours that my "profile" has been live, mind you with no picture, I have gotten 20 emails, mostly from my area, but a couple from far out of state. What I can tell you so far is that they are all extremely sensitive and gentle. No mention of sex, no mention of anything other than having fun, finding a caring, loving relationship, etc etc. It makes me almost want to date them. LOL. They are all, to a man, multi-millionaires, by the way. I guess the point I am trying to make is that in order to snare an SB we might have to write like one.

On another note, two or three babies on the line at the moment, but none landed as of yet. Most of the problem is my hectic schedule at the moment. One baby that looks particularly promising has sent me several nude shots that have gotten little Scotties attention. He is urging a meet at the soonest possible opportunity, and I find myself in agreement. My hesitation is that the image info indicates the pictures were taken in 2002. A lot can happen between then and now. We shall see.

Keep up the good work on your end, and I will share any other observations I can glean from my undercover work.

Scott

**Literal2** · 05-18-11 10:35

My mind has been obsessed with that 22 year old vagina and firm little ass ever since I fucked her. To clear my head I hope sb11 opens her pussy for me later today. However, I think back to an earlier experience at the short pump hotel when I was stood up. I forget the sb number but she confirmed and reconfirmed and then didn't show. This was like in February I think. I left the room and went to a bar where there was a pretty young co ed with long brown hair having a drink by herself. SB 18 reminds me of her. Two young men were at the bar between me and the girl. I said to one of the guys,"That lady is alone, you should do something." He said to me,"My friend already tried, she's not interested." I said WTF to myself and told the bartender to ask the girl if an old man could buy her a drink. He did. She laughed and beckoned me over. We sat and talked a while cordially and then I left. I was really pleased with myself. The young guys failed where I succeeded. It never occurred to me the girl would let me fuck her but I now think I should have asked her. Some young girls won't fuck older guys but clearly some will. But ya got to ask.

**Literal2** · 05-18-11 10:23

Well well. SB11 is a 23 year old student she says. Very pretty brunette. Can't tell much about body from pic on site, so maybe dumpy or flat, but she claims to be slim. She has appeared and then disappeared from my inbox for months. I assume she's been off fucking other sds and had about written her off when she contacted me again a few days ago. Or maybe I contacted her again, I forget. She says she will enter my fucking chamber this afternoon. We will see.

**Literal2** · 05-18-11 10:19

Originally Posted by Dr. Monger [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

More recently, I have been using an internet site, but with little to no success. I do not have a picture up, and invariably the first thing they do is ask for a picture. The communication then ceases, or they say "you're cute but not my type". .

Interesting post, Herr Doktor. The photo helps for sure. I don't think it matters much what you look like. I suppose there are exceptions. You can put it in a password protected gallery on the sites. You can also edit the photo enough to conceal your identity if you want.

I have looked at SeekingA and SD4Me which seem to have more prospects, but I am concerned about the same kind of non-responses I am currently getting, and to be blunt, throwing good money after bad....

The goal should be not to throw any good money anywhere unless penetration has been achieved. Sometimes a little sugar in advance may help things along but it's a gamble.

P. S. ... Also, SD4Me claims a 3 day free trial, but you need to give a credit card. It that legit?

This site is notorious for being hard to quit once you sign up. You have to weigh the good (many babes) against the bad (costly).