"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Varoom]

My experience over the last couple of years is that all of the major moderately-priced chains may send you advertising in the postal mail after you stay with them... and it's hard to talk away as "postal spam" something addressed specifically to you and saying "Thanks for your recent stay with us!" For this reason, I always give them my work address, which I can confirm with my business card. Junk mail to me there requires no explanation.

CWL:

Have you noticed these mailing or questionaires being from any specific brand of hotel?

I based my posted opinion on 30 or more stays at hotels with 0 mail. These are typically lower end motels, Quality, Motel69, Super8, etc. Not one piece of mail to date.

[CantWinLosin]

Paying cash does not mean that one would or should give false info upon registration. In fact most hotels when you pay cash will want to see an I'd, so not advisable to give false info. Most hotels that mongers are going to and paying cash know that it isn't you and your wife up in the suite, nor do they care. As long as you pay and practice quiet enjoyment of their premises. Leaving everything in tact when you depart. For the most part you aren't going to receive any mail wanting you to confirm how your stay was. They already KNOW if was GREAT.

Lit 2. Thanks for clarifying some of the rules of the SB road. Helpful and very interesting.

My experience over the last couple of years is that all of the major moderately-priced chains may send you advertising in the postal mail after you stay with them... and it's hard to talk away as "postal spam" something addressed specifically to you and saying "Thanks for your recent stay with us!" For this reason, I always give them my work address, which I can confirm with my business card. Junk mail to me there requires no explanation.

[Literal2]

... she fucked like a mink, most often cried after the 'O', particularly the second one and was only the second woman I have ever had, when her hips rocked, her puzzy “crawled” inside like a snake.

Damn I have to get me one of those.

[Varoom]

Several mongers recommend checking out with cash to avoid the credit card record. That may work. I wouldn't falsify a registration because I think that's illegal.

Paying cash does not mean that one would or should give false info upon registration. In fact most hotels when you pay cash will want to see an I'd, so not advisable to give false info. Most hotels that mongers are going to and paying cash know that it isn't you and your wife up in the suite, nor do they care. As long as you pay and practice quiet enjoyment of their premises. Leaving everything in tact when you depart. For the most part you aren't going to receive any mail wanting you to confirm how your stay was. They already KNOW if was GREAT.

Lit 2. Thanks for clarifying some of the rules of the SB road. Helpful and very interesting.

[Literal2]

Several mongers pm'd me about how I manage sb relationships. The more we share our experiences the more we will all learn. My responses to the questions may be different from others with just as much experience.

1. Do I use my real name with the babes?

No.

2. How do I handle paper trail at hotel?

I pay with a credit card that's billed online. Could this be accessed by a divorce lawyer or by leo? Probably. My focus is on avoiding legal proceedings in the first place. Several mongers recommend checking out with cash to avoid the credit card record. That may work. I wouldn't falsify a registration because I think that's illegal.

3. Do sb's try to get hooks into me and then up the ante?

One girl asked for more money each time we met. I just said sorry, no. I didn't make a big deal out of it and she didn't stop seeing me.

4. How do I disentangle from an sb?

I don't get entangled. I never let them think the relationship is anything other than temporary, even though its fun for both of us.

5. How much allowance, how often paid?

This varies a lot. I probably spend more on sb's than others (I'm lucky to be able to) because I want the girls to have a reason to want to see me instead of another guy. I can't compete with younger guys in some ways but I can in this way.

6. Do I worry an sb will rat me out to the warden?

Yes. The risk is real: a few years ago I saw a 23 year old beginner agency escort in Canada several times. I told her I was divorced. The sex got better and better but I failed to notice signs she'd started making plans for us. I kid you not. One night, she figured out how to find me and called me at home, to surprise me I guess. My wife answered. The girl was furious and totally ratted me out. Luckily, the warden thought it was a crank call. Who would think an agency escort would behave like that? But she did. So I try to avoid giving sb's personal data and I don't let them think I'm single.

[Literal2]

Lightning struck to find so many fine qualities in such a hot package. We met monthly for four hours. Half the time she came to me. Half the time I went to her. In the entire 2 ½ years every time was just like the first time. In love? Not on your life. If I were in love I would want to spend all my time with her. A woman around a lot, anyone around a lot, is not my thing. I have a reclusive side. I was always happy when it was time to return to our lives. I would not have fit into her life or she mine.

You may be tougher than I am, Golf. I start to get involved with these girls if I see them more than a few times. What the sb / sd usasg sites have allowed me to do is to date-fuck more than one girl at a time which is what I seem to need to stay objective.

By the way, my personal belief is that the way to a woman's heart is through her vagina and if she allows you access a few times she is likely to get involved emotionally even if you don't.

Just my opinion.

[Varoom]

Gents.

I am not from your area but kept seeing the SB thread show up on the Front Page with posted comments.

So today I clicked onto the thread and began reading. Then I had to go back 3 pages to get the jist of the discussion, then back 6 or 8 pages. Fascinating discussions.

This has been the most interesting read. Glad you guys are having so much fun with the chase of the SB's and wish you much success in obtaining the desired prize. Again, great read!

Varoom

[Golfcart]

I had a SB for 2 ½ years. She was the hottest woman I've ever been around, the smartest and the woman with the biggest heart. The lesser considerations, she frucked like a mink, most often cried after the 'O', particularly the second one and was only the second woman I have ever had, when her hips rocked, her puzzy “crawled” inside like a snake. I did not want more and fortunately for me she was 24 years younger and could make no assumptions. I was pretty sure she had others which didn't bother me. We got together monthly, enjoyed our time and I put a gift in her purse on the ride down the elevator. So she was a SB or she was an UTR escort. The last two times I noticed she wasn't able to stay as long, but that happened to me a couple of times also. Then it was getting to be about that time again and we were texting to arrange our next get together and the following day I saw her wedding mentioned on a girlfriends social network site. So that was the end of that. A husband creates a whole different risk. He's a lucky man, but on full time duty. I doubt I'll find another her.

This has to be a classic story. You may not find another one like her, because it sounds like you were at least a little bit in love with this particular girl, but I believe a lot of the sbs on the website are looking for just this kind of relationship with an sd. It's not for me because I don't want to risk emotional involvement which would happen to me for sure in this kind of long term affair, but it sounds like it was great for you.

Lightning struck to find so many fine qualities in such a hot package. We met monthly for four hours. Half the time she came to me. Half the time I went to her. In the entire 2 ½ years every time was just like the first time. In love? Not on your life. If I were in love I would want to spend all my time with her. A woman around a lot, anyone around a lot, is not my thing. I have a reclusive side. I was always happy when it was time to return to our lives. I would not have fit into her life or she mine.

[Literal2]

Lit, you are right. I joined this SB4U and all I received are mails from girl way further than the north pole. You know you will never meet anyone that far away anyway.

The ones that's close by never return emails. What the heck is that?

The girls from far away are just hoping to find someone dumb enough to travel to see them or pay them to travel. For example, two bi-sexual girls in Russia told me they would come over for a week and make me happy if I just send them enough money to travel, put them up in a hotel or an apartment, feed them and give them a big allowance. Maybe they were just trying to trick me out of money and the girls didn't really exist, or maybe some guys are rich enough to bring them over for a visit. Not me.

As to the nearby girls that don't reply. It's like any other kind of picking up girls. You have to contact enough girls and make yourself attractive enough by your presentation (your profile and emails) to get them interested in talking to you. If they don't reply, keep changing your approach until they do.

Thats about the best I can do RM. Good luck.

[Richmond Mas]

Often when they reject you without saying anything they just delete your email on the site. You can tell when they have read your email and when they haven't and you can tell when they have looked at your profile. You can also tell when they delete your email. If they delete it without reading it after they have looked at your profile, it's probably the worst response. I agree its rare to get an actual rejection email.

Lit, you are right. I joined this SB4U and all I received are mails from girl way further than the north pole. You know you will never meet anyone that far away anyway.

The ones that's close by never return emails. What the heck is that?

[Literal2]

I should have made clear that I am only familiar with the email feautures of the sd4me site. I don't know if the other sites' email works the same way or not.

[Literal2]

I've had zero luck there. All these sites "pad their rosters" with shills and / or profiles for non-existent people, but the site you mentioned does seem to be pretty blatant.

My best luck was on CL before they closed the "adult jobs" section. There are some SB types in the "casual encounters" section, but you have to do a LOT of weeding to find the real blades of grass. I re-wrote my profile on the SD4Me site and I'm finally getting some responses to emails, though not from the ones I would prefer. And I got my first actual rejection email last night, where someone I had written on the site replied to say no thanks. That's a rare one.

Often when they reject you without saying anything they just delete your email on the site. You can tell when they have read your email and when they haven't and you can tell when they have looked at your profile. You can also tell when they delete your email. If they delete it without reading it after they have looked at your profile, it's probably the worst response. I agree its rare to get an actual rejection email.

[Literal2]

Has anyone had any luck with the Sugarbaby4U site. I signed up but have not paid. So far I've seen mainly out of state and what looks like TGTBT.

I hadn't heard of this one before. Thanks.

[Literal2]

Stay positive, things will turn your way.

I agree with this.

[Literal2]

I had a SB for 2 ½ years. She was the hottest woman I've ever been around, the smartest and the woman with the biggest heart. The lesser considerations, she frucked like a mink, most often cried after the 'O', particularly the second one and was only the second woman I have ever had, when her hips rocked, her puzzy “crawled” inside like a snake. I did not want more and fortunately for me she was 24 years younger and could make no assumptions. I was pretty sure she had others which didn't bother me. We got together monthly, enjoyed our time and I put a gift in her purse on the ride down the elevator. So she was a SB or she was an UTR escort. The last two times I noticed she wasn't able to stay as long, but that happened to me a couple of times also. Then it was getting to be about that time again and we were texting to arrange our next get together and the following day I saw her wedding mentioned on a girlfriends social network site. So that was the end of that. A husband creates a whole different risk. He's a lucky man, but on full time duty. I doubt I'll find another her.

This has to be a classic story. You may not find another one like her, because it sounds like you were at least a little bit in love with this particular girl, but I believe a lot of the sbs on the website are looking for just this kind of relationship with an sd. It's not for me because I don't want to risk emotional involvement which would happen to me for sure in this kind of long term affair, but it sounds like it was great for you.