Thread: Is Big Jay a Serial Antagonist?
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08-31-05 23:00 #29
Posts: 5309Final Disposition
Greetings everyone,
After careful consideration of the poll results and the comments from the Forum Members, I have decided to take the following action.
Big Jay has been given his own thread, where I have moved all of his reports and those reports from other Forum Members who directly responded to or quoted his reports. Those of you who wish to join him in his new section are welcome to to so.
I appreciate everyone's involvement in helping me identify the true perpetrators of the discord in this forum. Perhaps now, everybody can get back to the subject of this Forum, which is:
"The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex."
Thanks,
Jackson
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08-28-05 23:05 #28
Posts: 174Originally Posted by Pwhipped
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08-28-05 00:18 #27
Posts: 60Can you lock this thread?
Jackson,
Since you've already made your decision and the usefulness of this thread is over, can you lock it? It's just a gripe session now.
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08-27-05 18:19 #26
Posts: 3659PsyberZom
The rules are not being enforced, as we all can see.
Overt Serial Antagonists are easy to identify. Usually they start trouble almost from their 1st report, and after antagonizing a few people and subsequently having their reports edited, they quickly reach the Forum's maximum number of three Personal Attacks and are automatically banned.
PW
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08-27-05 09:10 #25
Posts: 1339Re : Why????
Originally Posted by Ivaf100
Well , your career here is certainly off to a Great Start , Ivaf100 !!
First , you insult Jackson
Then , you apparently didn't *R*T*F*F* , or you would have realized that ALL of the people who voted against Big Jay were opposed to his single 'Rape' reference ; but that the Purpose of this Poll was to determine whether he is a Serial Antagonist , as defined here =
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/an...ntagonists.php
B·J clearly is NOT a Serial Antagonist by this definition
[ see = http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...0&postcount=16 ]
So in the end , Jackson demonstrated the Wisdom of Solomon in his decision to restrict B·J to his own thread
This way , you oh·so·sensitive Souls here who didn't grow up on a steady diet of LookingForLefty , can easily avoid him — I guess it was just Too Much to ask you guys to simply add him to your 'Ignore' List
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08-27-05 02:27 #24
Posts: 221Why???
Jackson,
I am a long time monger and a lurker on your great Forum. This is my first post, I couldn't stand it anymore. I know it is not good to question the owner,But what the hell were you thinking? I don't understand how you could say Big Jay didn't rape the woman. He said he did and never denied it. Why did you even bother to have a vote. You went with the choice with the least number of votes and totally ignored the ignored the wishes of the overwhelming majority of voters.
Ivaf100
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08-26-05 09:17 #23
Posts: 3659Second thought, my own thread??
I used to see and read what Nibu posted, then saw he was given his own thread, I thought then it was a privilege, and an honor for posting so much, but now it seems that is it is a punishment as with with Jay???
I do not believe this is any type of punishment or deterent. Hell, Jackson, please give me my own section, then when someone wants info, they can go there to see it. I can post all kinds of reports, links and info. I can read the other threads, then go to my own personal area and post answers and do what I want.
Or am I missing something here??? I this a deterant or a privilege, I guess I do not know the rules pertaining to a separate thread? Help, explain please. PW
Originally Posted by Pwhipped
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08-26-05 08:42 #22
Posts: 3659I must agree on Jay per your rules
He did not violate this rule that is clearly posted:
"No Flaming: Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member"
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08-25-05 21:25 #21
Posts: 580Great decision Jackson. Can you do something about the people who repeatedly post CL photos of girls they have never seen in the Photo Gallery. It's annoying and they are blatantly disregarding the rules you have established. The Los Angeles - Craiglists Reviews section is a prime example. Thanks.
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08-22-05 16:29 #20
Posts: 962Originally Posted by JMG
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08-20-05 18:50 #19
Posts: 241Big Jay should go
He'll probably just sign up again but maybe he'll tone down his posts.
The thing is, that message he sent is fuel for any that oppose the hobby. I disagree with someone's post about it being fuel for the 'right wing'. They get horny too. And don't think your local left wing group wouldn't ban your local AMP if it will help get them elected. It works both ways.
The real issue here isn't what Big Jay did or didn't do. It is his attitude toward women. If that's being 'sensitive' then so be it. He did say the word rape and if you take it out I don't think his sentence 'still works' as implied by Jackson. And what he said after, about her crying etc. He raped her in his mind if not for real and more importantly gives sick minds like his support for their way of thinking. We're just not about that here. We can't be about hurting women like that.
I wonder, when people complained about his post, did he ever take it back? Explain what he meant etc.? I'm not going to research it. That one post was enough for me to cast my vote.
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08-20-05 17:56 #18
Posts: 249I'm with The Don
Talking about rape (and about women in general) in the celebratory and degrading manner which big j does should be this forum's equivalent of talking about bombs in an airport. Do it, and you're forcibly removed from the place instantaneously. And based on the writings in this thread, it seems that most people here feel similarly about this.
I'm not sure that j can be fully defined as a serial antagonist, -- he's not picking on other forum members directly but his posts do have a highly antagonistic quality. He's also a self-proclaimed asshole, and admits that he has no desire to behave differently.
My feelings are that regardless of whether jay's posts are "serially antagonistic" or not, he brings nothing to the table. And while I commend you, Jackson, for running this forum as somewhat of a democracy, there is absolutely no need for the rules or judgements of the forum to be fair to anyone. There need be no free speech here. This is ultimately your forum, and you've been doing a great job of running it and maintaining a very high standard. Because of that we've all been rewarded with a huge membership and a fantastic community that we all enjoy on a regular basis. Your demand for high standards keeps the information quality exceedingly high, the writing quality very high and the community generally friendly and respectful. It keeps us all coming back day after day, year after year -- your high standards are the best part of this forum.
The behaviour of big j has no place here, and it never will. And if big j is actually behaving in the way he states he is in his posts, it's my humble opinion that he has no place on this planet, much less on this board. He is nothing.
My vote: do the right thing for this community -- show him the f****** door.
jmg
Originally Posted by The Don ATL
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08-20-05 09:42 #17
Posts: 3659Wazoo said it
It is that he is not what this board needs, that is the main reason to ban him
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08-20-05 09:38 #16
Posts: 1339Remember LookingForLefty ??
Big Jay doesn't even come close to being a 'Serial Antagonist' , as defined in http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/an...ntagonists.php , to wit =
" Individually, [ A Serial Antagonist's ] reports would not appear to be deliberately antagonistic, yet he consistently seems to find himself in the midst of arguments with other forum members, at times even playing the role of the victim. "
So , I voted for =
" No, I believe his writing style does provoke people, but not to the point of requiring action "
If YOU think he does meet the definition , post a Link to even one of his messages were he attacks &/or finds him·self in the midst of arguments with other Posters here
And to those of you who merely object to the Content of B·J 's Posts =
Heck , there was a guy on the Milwaukee Board named LookingForLefty — since retired — who constantly wrote about ass·raping Hookers , and he never came close to getting Banned . Read some of his Posts here for yer·selves ; may·be they'll give you a little 'perspective' on the 'Problem' of Big JayLast edited by PsyberZombie; 08-27-05 at 09:14.
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08-15-05 15:21 #15
Posts: 1807Get rid of him.
Does he think that we are a society reject self help group?