AMP Tips and Guidelines

[Daty Dave]

Great guide US Traveller I agree with being polite to the women giving you a massage. I have only been to 4 amps all in different cities and was offered FS in all 4 (beginners luck). I am new at this and started out with BJ's at the first two and 1/2 n 1/2 in the next two. Your guide has given me some new ideas and they will help in the future.

I told the women that I had not been there before but that I had been to others in other cities. I was very polite and when it came to the "is there anything else" part I said yes, but acted like I was a little afraid that she was a cop and asked politely to see her breasts. They all agreeed and let me caress them (which I did gently). At that point I told them what I wanted and they agreed. The first two tried to sell me on FS but I just wanted a BJ.

I also spent a lot of time reading about the different locations and women before I left for my trips and I identified potential places with addresses and printed map quest maps. I knew what the price should be ahead of time and it was pretty close to what I paid.

I was hooked after the first time and I would be pooer then hell if they had AMPs where I live in SLC. Now I just hope for business trips to AMP friendly places like Warren/Youngstown Ohio (My 3rd time was very good and I still smile when I think of July)

[Big Kahuna]

Bluishballs,

I have never seen it happen, a refund.

Not to say it doesnt exit but I have not seen it in 20+ years.

BK

If an older woman in her 30s does the massage and you ask for a younger one, but there are none, can you ask for a refund or is that too rude? This is like 5 minutes into massage.

[USTraveller]

Interesting question, bluishballs. Personally, I've never found the need to leave an AMP due to the looks of the lady. I find the girls in their 30's more attractive than a lot of the younger ones. Also, I find the technique of the girls in their 30's a LOT better than the ones right off the boat. Part of the appeal of the AMP is a good massage followed by other stuff. If the massage is good, most of the time your head is down anyway, then you'll be ready for the extras. I'd take experience over looks in an AMP. But that's just my opinion.

As far as asking for a refund, you already paid for a massage, not for a beautiful lady. Asking for a refund may or may not work. If you don't plan on going back, ask for a refund. If you don't get it, get the rest of your massage, then leave with out requesting extras. Call the experience the cost of an education and don't go back to that establishment. Maybe they'll get the hint and get younger, better looking ones.

Also, try asking to meet the girl giving you the massage before the massage starts. If that's not possible, you can leave before money exchanges hands.

Your best bet is to search and find one you like, with the best selection of girls at ages you like. Then, remember their names and ask for them when you go back. Remember to post about the good AND the bad experiences in the city portions of the forum, that way, you'll help others find good places and avoid the bad ones.

If you ever ask for a refund, let us know how it goes. You have me curious now.

-USTraveller

[bluishballs]

If an older woman in her 30s does the massage and you ask for a younger one, but there are none, can you ask for a refund or is that too rude? This is like 5 minutes into massage.

[Gag23]

This wont' apply to everyone, but this is what I do- or did before I moved to Iowa where there aren't any AMP I used to frequest the AMP close to military bases. I quickly learned that the girls quickly got over thinking you were a cop if you were in the army. If you don't have a military ID, say you contract for the base (anything: mechanical, delivery, gardening).

Like I said, this wont' work for everybody depending on where you live.

Have fun

[J Schwanger]

Jackson,

Is it possible to start a new thread concerning the history of the AMP?

Such a thread would discuss:

--When did the modern AMP start? Although this board goes back a decade, surely someone could know when the AMP's first originated.

--Where did they start? Probably first in cities with large Asian populations such as SF and NYC. But in the last decade they've become a truly nationwide phenomenon. Did this happen all at once, or were there a few cities from which individual AMP firms branched out?

--Why do the Koreans dominate this industry? Could it be due to 1) ease of travel visas from SK 2) continued military presence and war wives 3) the economic miracle of SK in the last 40 years which might've left behind rural and/or uneducated SK women. Japan and to a lesser extent the Philipines fit that description, but they don't dominate this trade in the way the koreans do. Will chinese-run AMP's soon create a better ( and cheaper) model and overtake the K-AMP?

--Are there a few families controlling the AMP's? If so, does this meet the standard for an example of the economic system of an oligopoly.

--How often is the talent moved to other AMP's
And are they shiipped only to localites within the family network?

--What determines the price structure? Is it Real Demand? Or the escort market? Has the price been resistant to price inflation?

Thanks

Hi,

I'm not sure what you are asking.

As a Forum Member, you are welcome to start your own thread on any subject that interests you.

Thanks,

Jackson

[486qaz]

Just abit of advice that worked out well with me. I am no expert by any means. If you are asked if you have been there before just say yes. I dont think they remember everyone that comes there. Then if they ask what you got last time, just tell them everything. Sometimes they dont even discuss price till after the session is over. The first time I went I said I had been there before and I asked for a certain girl( got the name from this site) then once she had strattled me massaging my back, I just turned over, she grabbed my package and asked what I got last time, I told her everything she left the room the came back and immediatly began licking the boys. Great time that was!

[LarryS1352]

Very good guide. I post in the San Diego section and visit AMP's almost exclusively.

Being a regular really gets you special treatment. What I always do is place 5 Jacksons under my wallet in full view. When the gal enters the message has been sent. I have virtually a 100% track record of FS. By far and away this is my best tip to newcomers. I have been doing AMP's for 15 years.

Now another tip I have shared on the San Diego board. I bring a small box of chocolates with me and give to the Mamasan saying it's "for the gals." Several places have nicknamed me Candy Man, and when the gals come into the room I never have a problem.

The toughest place for me has been Las Vegas. I have gotten full service when others don't, but it's a tough market. Warren Ohio is fantastic. Table shower, Sauna, massage and FS for $60 plus $100. The best. North San Diego County has been hot, and still is for regulars.

What other areas can people comment on?

[Joe Coodidge]

Like you USTraveler, I also prefer AMP's than finding street walkers. I've always had good experiences and even if FS or HJ is not provided, usually I get a pretty decent massage...

[zavon]

That's an exceptional and wonderfully detailed guide. I thought I'd add my little bit and will post more specifically in my hometown forum.

What always works best for me is to follow your guidelines but when the MamaSan leaves and then the chosen lady comes in, I simply hand her $120 and then wait a moment. That is usually all I need to do. Then she'll usually say "get undressed or would you like a bath/shower" If she doesn't offer the bath/shower then I specifically request it. That is for several of the reasons you posted but I also believe it gives you an idea of the type of service the young lady will be providing.

In many cases, the bath/shower was as much fun as everything else. Plus - if the lady seems to be spending a lot of time cleaning the anal area, then you can probably bet she may slide into rimming during the "soft" portion of the massage.

Also - when they ask if you want a "hard" or "soft" massage - DON'T CHOOSE ONE - you'll short-change yourself. Tell her you like a bit of both. That way, if she is any good at all, you'll get a proper LMT type massage to get the kinks out of your aching back and then you'll get the ever so pleasureable "soft" massage.

And lastly, I agree that AMP's are the way to go. I use to figure that I could do about 3) SW's for 1)AMP and in the long run, it's a better deal. More comfortable, cleaner, safer and almost always so very much better.

I have never spent more than $125 for complete FS in New Orleans and in many cases I had GFE's. There were several times when some would want to cuddle afterwards, a couple that I had seen more than once would get into deep french kissing...of cousre, some just did their job and that wasn't bad either.

I also agree about treating them with respect and civility. If their English is up to it, I try to converse...ask about where they are from and if they miss it.that sort of thing.

I got to know the MamaSan at Tokyo (closed and reopened) in NO. She wa fluent in English and not the normal MamaSan in that she also worked. She was a little older and a tad thick around the middle but she had the most beautiful natural breasts and she was always so wonderfully warm, erotic and thourough. Her little trick for rimming was to, of course, was the area thoroughly but then she would swab your opening with a bit of vaseline beore she put her tounge in. The frist time I was ever rimmed was by her and it was just about the most erotic feeling I've ever had.

I even remember one time I came and she was on her way out to go shoppping. I told her I'd come back another day cause I wanted her and noone else. She then brought me in and said if I did a favor for her, then she'd delay her shoppping for me. The favor was that after she bathed me, I had to bathe her and give her a return massage.

Sorry to go on but I just wanted to add to the wonderful guide posted and help support it.

[Ausse Salt]

G'day mates,

Good crackerjack advice (once again from US traveler), the only thing I'd throw in is you should get a hard-on during the table shower. The mum & girls like this for two reasons. First, it loosens them up from the thought of you being LE (although nothing is a sure thing), and second, it shows that you're "ready to have a go" and the girl knows that she won't have to work you for a half-hour and wonder.

A well-timed hard-on always lines you up for extras.

Beaut of a trick of US Travelers, telling the mum you usually go to the other tatshack across towne & want to give this place a try today. Right-clever bloke he is.

Salty

[Sam Says]

U S Traveler,

This guideline is the most complete one i have ever seen! I used it to get me started on AMP'S amd have never regretted it.

Many thanks,

Samsays

[USTraveller]

Here are some tips and etiquette for visitors looking for extras in an AMP (Asian Massage Parlor). I'm one who prefers the AMPs to the other mongering options because they seem to provide a safe and relaxing environment. I wanted to share some general information in a number of sections and decided to do it here instead as more people are likely to view it and add on. I hope this can help any newbies to AMPs or jog the memory of AMP experts to dish out some tips of their own.

1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside - Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your ID. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.

2) Entry into the AMP - Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say hello to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.

3) Become a Repeat Customer - This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times, "have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.

3a) Get/Present a Business Card - Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.

3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer - If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. and have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!

3c) If you are a new Customer - You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.

3d) Prove you are not LE - If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP - Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Use Provided "Purse" - Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

6) Bring your own condom - The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

7) Shower Etiquette - Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

8) Enjoy the Massage - It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.

9) Lose the Towel - If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

10) Become Aroused - Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

11) Wait to Flip Over - At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip" - The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (i.e. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.

13) The Fun Part - When she returns (or starts), it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

14) Variations - If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

15) Happy Ending - After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.

16) Be Polite - I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f**k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

17) Learn the Language - If you can learn Korean/Chinese/etc., you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.

18) Post Your Experience - We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP/Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team".

Disclaimer: This is just based on my experience in AMPs in a few cities as well as some tips I saw on this forum. I don't claim to be an expert. Feel free to add on your own tips and direct others from the City forums you post in to this section. Next time someone asks "any advice for visiting an AMP for the first time", you can point them here and hopefully others will share their tips and advice. I'm always looking for new tips too. I did this over a year ago in the old forum and thought I'd start a new thread here to help out everyone who goes to AMPs.

-USTraveller