Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ

[JZLizard]

Normally I don't do this, but I thought it was worth making an exception. I am providing a link to a series of posts on sugar baby addiction that is in another thread. The conversation I'm targeting originally was posted to the Richmond SB thread, but was later moved into the more general sexual addiction section.

When that conversation was going on, I noticed the posts disappeared, but at the time thought they were simply deleted and saw no indicator where to find them. Kind of unfortunate because the original topic that came up specifically involved an addiction to SA itself, however I do understand some of the challenges of moderation and why they could be seen as being common ground with the subject of sexual addiction.

I mostly just wanted to provide here an entry point to that discussion. In the event that the subject of sugar site addiction arises again in the Richmond thread, this should help everyone find any moved posts on the subject more easily.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post3109284

The one thing to realize as you view that thread is that some of the posters may not even be participants in the Richmond thread, or may not be involved in the sugar scene at all, they may be talking about addiction to BP girls, escorts, etc. And at least to me the motives for quitting each scenario (or perhaps I should say the act of choosing one scenario over the other in the first place) would be very different. To others there may be enough overlap between the topics to treat them interchangeably.

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To ignore a poster you'd prefer not to read, click on their name, View Profile, and select Add To Ignore List on your left.

You will not see posts from them and they will be unable to send you private messages.

It takes far less time to perform this simple action than it does to complain or instigate problems with the user you disagree with.

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F Scott post #1993: a list of best practices for staying anonymous.

SubCmdr post #1802: why not to let someone stay in a hotel room you booked.

John G Smith post #2646: ways your real name or address might be revealed.

BigTigger post #2648: changing hotel reservation names.

John G Smith post #2697: protecting your identity.

F Scott post #2721: secret identity approach recap.

John G Smith post #2726: using Google Voice for an alternate phone number.

BikeRider post #4024: looking up SB info.

JeezLizard post #8119: more anonymity suggestions.

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Literal2 post #136: building anticipation.

Droo89 post #1211: be respectful, talk sugar, don't fear rejection.

Literal2 post #190: managing the relationship.

John G Smith post #2749: multiple "Yes"es needed to get to the FC.

ChiGuy606 post #4128: make them comfortable to help convince them.

BigTigger post #5325: appeal to the woman in her.

FredMoore post #5779: business deal, setting tone.

John G Smith post #6214: defining "success" and goals.

John G Smith post #6319: enjoying the chase, being direct.

JeezLizard post #7024: time and work needed.

FredMoore post #7654: negotiations and requirements.

JeezLizard post #7674: women and negotiating.

RubberyMan post #7704: curiosity, convincing, game, and keeping you in mind later.

DogSun post #7713: physical hints.

HollywoodGuy post #7714: screening, persona, and game.

JeezLizard post #7722: understanding how women think.

LandonR post #8451: we're in control and set the rules.

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HollywoodGuy post #203: the ideal target personality.

Hernando post #783: the "Nando #" category system.

John G Smith post #1987: the "Ideal SB Experience".

Literal2 post #1665: SB financial motivations.

Hernando post #378: Expanded category descriptions.

HighCotton post #4955: common types of SBs.

FredMoore post #5894: Pros and cons of age groups.

JeezLizard post #7876: Dancing vs sexual ability, and AA tendencies.

HollywoodGuy post #7877: AA tendencies.

DirtyDeeds38 post #8796: Lessons learned about many SBs.

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HollywoodGuy post #2107: getting agreement for sex on the first date.

JeezLizard post #6179: playing the "Sure, I'll go shopping" card.

JeezLizard post #6610: girls asking for rough sex.

DirtyDeeds38 post #6611: more rough sex.

JeezLizard post #8701: the value of staying fit and exercising.

FyrGuy33 post #8957: attractiveness of kissing and going down.

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Literal2 post #89: frequency of locations.

FredMoore post #4357: acceptability of cheap hotels.

F Scott post #4358: avoiding paper trails.

FredMoore post #6529: going to their place instead of a hotel.

HollywoodGuy post #6575: check-in handling.

HollywoodGuy post #7204: meeting location recount.

IluvSmellyFish post #7921: booking sites and date costs.

IluvSmellyFish post #7931: M&G / hotel / FC location options.

IluvSmellyFish post #8483: booking timing.

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AliasSM post #2768: Pricing lessons learned.

AliasSM post #1975: Price range, and inability to give less later.

John G Smith post #1938: economics and setting expectations.

JoesParty post #1979: good guys get cheaper agreements.

Zomby post #1996: Followup thoughts on an Ideal SB and allowance.

SubCmdr post #2114: tie cash to desired important things.

Hernando post #412: expectation categories.

Golfcart post #416: never discuss gifts.

Hernando post #497: prices per date.

Hernando post #659: long-term costs and agreeing up-front.

Golfcart post #692: giving reasonable sugar.

F Scott post #981: non-cash sugar, and juggling SBs.

F Scott post #2514: no first M&G gifts, value of small tokens.

John G Smith post #2598: focus on covering her expenses.

John G Smith post #2769: getting the whole SB experience, bidding strategy.

F Scott post #2938: giving cash and extras.

John G Smith post #2962: monthly / meet totals, Green Dot, paying expenses.

BigTigger post #3798: tips for finding low sugar SBs.

HollywoodGuy post #3907: non-cash gift ideas.

BigTigger post #3908: extra gifts for the first date.

Revvo post #4505: SB savings.

FredMoore post #4568: payment guidlines (PAYGO, performance, limits).

Dolato post #5235: stating facts rather than "negotiating".

Showtime2020 post #5238: date prices, useful planning questions.

HollywoodGuy post #5259: sticking with a particular limit.

HollywoodGuy post #5387: gift plus covering room etc.

HollywoodGuy post #5729: per-date expense sums.

JeezLizard post #5773: post-date contacting, making dates fun and skipping discussion.

Dsprdo post #6198: offer success rates.

JeezLizard post #6447: pay cut demotivations.

John G Smith post #6460: cash+giftcards, physical gifts.

John G Smith post #6729: asking what they're looking for.

FeelGoodMd post #7003: responding to high expectations.

Dsprdo post #8284: up-front mentions, no sugar for M&G.

FyrGuy33 post #8457: SD controls rates, not SB.

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John G Smith post #1808: M&G advantages and planning.

AliasSM post #1810: necessity of M&Gs.

TravelinSD post #1813: value of M&Gs.

Varoom post #226: finding common ground and deciding.

Magic Rat post #346: "no expectations"+respect approach.

CantWinLosin post #2515: no up-front sugar for M&Gs.

FredMoore post #4207: purpose is getting a feel for each other.

FredMoore post #5114: nail down expectations at the M&G.

FyrGuy33 post #5905: setting expectations up front.

IluvSmellyFish post #8281: finding chemistry can mean less sugar needed.

FyrGuy33 post #8410: pay for expenses, but not showing up.

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Posts on how to handle contacting girls, setting up profiles, and handling initial negotiations. Note that these are in the order I found them, not chronological order:

John G Smith post #2285: red / green / pro flags in profiles.

F Scott post #2288: more red flags.

GuyWoodson post #1687: general SA guidelines / approach.

John G Smith post #1898: getting additional info via FB profiles, and unequal identity concerns.

HollywoodGuy post #2088: First version of his stock contact message.

John G Smith post #2233: screening guidelines and approaches.

HollywoodGuy post #2246: direct approach and what girls want.

John G Smith post #2250: caution with message wording.

SubCmdr post #2409: blunt approach to intentions.

Obx Fun post #15: general approach.

ThudPucker post #24: honesty in intentions.

Literal2 post #75: filtering time wasters.

Literal2 post #233: general approach.

Literal2 post #294: more approaches.

F Scott post #300: thoughts after posting a fake SB profile.

BigTigger post #405: approach for using the AM site.

Literal2 post #914: getting an agreement.

Coolhand2 post #918: first-time meetings right at the FC.

F Scott post #941: contact using words from their profile.

HollywoodGuy post #3320: approaching sugar as a salesperson.

HollywoodGuy post #4222: looking for a "friendly handshake" on the sale.

Revvo post #4711: adjusting your approach to match their expectations.

F Scott post #5015: polishing your profile and first message.

Revvo post #5116: being patient with an "abundance mentality".

Pats Fan1 post #5340: confidence and contacts.

UKnowWho post #5583: avoid "spoiled" and "pampered".

John G Smith post #5997: asking for pics to help filter prospects.

JeezLizard post #6101: organizing and tracking prospects.

DirtyDeeds38 post #6189: filtering and contacting approach.

DirtyDeeds38 post #6395: mentioning sugar and handling expectations.

FredMoore post #6396: making expectations clear.

John G Smith post #6397: caution with negotiating money.

FotoGuy1970 post #6693: answers to approach questions.

HollywoodGuy post #6956: Second version of his stock contact message.

ThirdCoaster post #6974: consistency between profile and message.

F Scott post #7787: quickly contacting new additions to the site.

JeezLizard post #8243: explanation for girls saying "I won't do. " in their profiles.

HollywoodGuy post #8252: Third version of his 5 Steps message.

HollywoodGuy post #8296: templates for mentioning donations.

HollywoodGuy post #8850: selectiveness and negotiating.

HollywoodGuy post #8978: Responding to a GPS request.

[Zcochran00]

As promised, I'm going to put together some collections of links to useful posts earlier in the main thread. We'll start with some definitions, a link to an earlier attempt to index useful posts, and some tips on formatting posts:

Common Acronyms and Phrases on the USASG SB Richmond Thread

(collected by HollywoodGuy on his "Five Steps" page at http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivesteps):

BCG. Booty call girl.

The Bowl. Short for sugar bowl.

FC. Fuck chamber.

GPS. Golden pussy syndrome.

HCB. Hot college babe.

HYB. Hot young babe.

M&G. Meet and greet.

Nando 1 - lowest level girl with a lot of drama.

POT. A potential SB.

SA - seekingarrangement.com.

SD4 M - sugardaddyforme.com.

SO. Significant other.

UTR. Under the radar (a pro on the down low).

Girl Rating System

(per post #4363 and post #7265).

Four numbers: Face / body / personality / skills or body / face / personality / skills.

Three numbers: face / body / skills (having the personality and skills in one number).

Previous Index Posts

SubCmdr post #2773. Points back to earlier posts on terms, security, rating systems, and gifts.

Post Formatting Help

USA uses the vBulletin forum software, which allows posts to be formatted using a set of tags called BBCode. There's at list of formatting tags at https://www.vbulletin.org/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode. Note that the "URL option" format doesn't seem to work on this board. I also have no idea why the board adds extra blank lines and mangles single-letter words.

On the other hand, there's a very useful tag for linking to specific posts on the board without using an entire URL. Enter it like this:

[post=1694021]link description text here[/post] , where the post number is found at the end of the link you can copy from the upper-right corner of each post (like http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post1694021).

There are some useful tools for writing formatted posts out there. I'm writing this in BBCEditor from http://fenixproductions.dcmembers.com/bbc/ , and there's others as well.

[JZLizard]

The title says it all. This thread exists as an index to the ever-growing monster thread.