Streetwalker Reports

I just wanted to say, I got caught up in a sting and the girl definitely got in my car. LE or decoy, whatever you want to call it, the statement "LEO WILL NEVER enter your car" could be misleading guys into a false sense of security.

Be safe out there.

Frogiii.

[QUOTE=Gilfoyle;3260219]The law is pretty vauge. The word "gesture" is used and by the fact that you stopped and looked at her is interpreted as signaling her or soliciting a prostitute. Trust me on this as I was caught under this technicality. The lawyer explained the law is completely left vauge so that it is left to interpretation. Especially in the detroit city. Yes, even a sneeze could be labeled as "Offer to engage". That said, a LEO WILL NEVER enter your car. Even if you stopped and said "I thought you were someone else" constitutes an "Offer to engage" and it is left upto the lawyer & prosecutor to work out how much you end up paying to hash it out in the courts. Keep in mind the system is setup such that they want to make money from this. This whole ordeal cost me 3. 5 g in 2007.

Sorry Tommy but there is no silver bullet or bullet proof method to avoid LEOs. I thought I was untouchable since I been doing this on weekly basis for 15 years near Wayne State and Triangle areas (those were the good old days). Then I was caught. The best risk free is to not to SW, meet at notel and dream all you want. Although I said that, I won't lie that picking a SW is extremely fun and heightens the intensity. The adrenaline runs high when picking a SW.

Best of luck and be safe folks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CyberFrogiii;3261381]I just wanted to say, I got caught up in a sting and the girl definitely got in my car. LE or decoy, whatever you want to call it, the statement "LEO WILL NEVER enter your car" could be misleading guys into a false sense of security.

Be safe out there.

Frogiii.[/QUOTE]Decoy. SW work with LE too. LE probably watched you the whole time. That's why MDL said scout around before you scoop. You'll miss out on some, who get scooped by careless mongers, but better safe than sorry.

As Jd said, MDL speaks the truth.

[QUOTE=SlickJr;3261424]Decoy. SW work with LE too. LE probably watched you the whole time. That's why MDL said scout around before you scoop. You'll miss out on some, who get scooped by careless mongers, but better safe than sorry.[/QUOTE]

Did the decoy actually get in your car and drive off with you before they busted you. ? Personally I have never actually seen a confirmed case where a police decoy actually got in and drove off with a guy. Now I have seen on cops where a decoy will step in a guys car and they will bust him before he closes the door and drives off. A good way to protect yourself is offer the girl a ride drive off 2 or 3 blocks before doing the cop check etc. There is actually case law that allows you give a girl a ride regardless if she is working girl or not. There is law called statutory interpretation that the law libraries have. Now if the cops did choose to bust you there is probably a you can fight this get the case dropped or win. Go hire a aggressive attorney and have him file a bunch of motions. Then go to the arraignment, plead not guilty and ask for a trial. They may drop the case then or you wait till start of the trial and see if they drop it then. If not you can always change your plea to guilty. The prosecutor will not hold it against you.

[QUOTE=CyberFrogiii;3261381]I just wanted to say, I got caught up in a sting and the girl definitely got in my car. LE or decoy, whatever you want to call it, the statement "LEO WILL NEVER enter your car" could be misleading guys into a false sense of security.

Be safe out there.

Frogiii.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CyberFrogiii;3261381]I just wanted to say, I got caught up in a sting and the girl definitely got in my car. LE or decoy, whatever you want to call it, the statement "LEO WILL NEVER enter your car" could be misleading guys into a false sense of security.

Be safe out there.

Frogiii.[/QUOTE]I've seen a sting on John are where the decoy was at Sammy D's and she got in and by the time they got to 8 mile they were swarmed with the Sheriff's deputies at the gas station. The same female rides around with another dep in a SUV.

I personally won't think about scooping a chick that I have never seen on the stroll before. I have to get some intel on her first whether it be just scoping her out for a few days or asking another SW the 411.

This is quite surprising. Did the guy actually drive 8 mile before they stopped him. ? My guess is that he did not get more than a block before they pulled them over.

[QUOTE=Jbfe147;3261883]I've seen a sting on John are where the decoy was at Sammy D's and she got in and by the time they got to 8 mile they were swarmed with the Sheriff's deputies at the gas station. The same female rides around with another dep in a SUV.

I personally won't think about scooping a chick that I have never seen on the stroll before. I have to get some intel on her first whether it be just scoping her out for a few days or asking another SW the 411.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hargow20;3262042]This is quite surprising. Did the guy actually drive 8 mile before they stopped him. ? My guess is that he did not get more than a block before they pulled them over.[/QUOTE]From the pick up to being pulled over is 1 block exactly. It blew my mind when I saw it because I had the same thought as you did.

Any clues what she looks like??

[QUOTE=DExplorer;3259490]Got off work at 5 and headed down the Ave, saw two girls out a WSW and a LSW. Scooped the WSW and after LEO checks and intros found a nice quiet spot. Goes by the name Jaelyn. Damn but that girl can suck dick. She really got into it, change speed and technique multiple times. After multiple times of being ready to pop when I finally let go she took every drop. Did spit, but well worth the. 2. Unfortunately, no phone but I'll definitely repeat.[/QUOTE]

A real LEO will not put their lives in danger by going inside your car. A decoy might do that. But the point I was making is despite whether she enters your car or not, the law is vauge where even if you stop, look at her and go constitutes a "gesture" for offer to engage. As always be safe and there is no bullet proof method to stay safe.

[QUOTE=Jbfe147;3261883]I've seen a sting on John are where the decoy was at Sammy D's and she got in and by the time they got to 8 mile they were swarmed with the Sheriff's deputies at the gas station. The same female rides around with another dep in a SUV.

I personally won't think about scooping a chick that I have never seen on the stroll before. I have to get some intel on her first whether it be just scoping her out for a few days or asking another SW the 411.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if pretending to be UBER driver and picking someone up, just pull over and say "I am your uber driver. Jennifer?" LOL. Is there a grey area that can be exploited in here?

[QUOTE=Hargow20;3261594]Did the decoy actually get in your car and drive off with you before they busted you. ? Personally I have never actually seen a confirmed case where a police decoy actually got in and drove off with a guy. Now I have seen on cops where a decoy will step in a guys car and they will bust him before he closes the door and drives off. A good way to protect yourself is offer the girl a ride drive off 2 or 3 blocks before doing the cop check etc. There is actually case law that allows you give a girl a ride regardless if she is working girl or not. There is law called statutory interpretation that the law libraries have. Now if the cops did choose to bust you there is probably a you can fight this get the case dropped or win. Go hire a aggressive attorney and have him file a bunch of motions. Then go to the arraignment, plead not guilty and ask for a trial. They may drop the case then or you wait till start of the trial and see if they drop it then. If not you can always change your plea to guilty. The prosecutor will not hold it against you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gilfoyle;3262917]A real LEO will not put their lives in danger by going inside your car. A decoy might do that. But the point I was making is despite whether she enters your car or not, the law is vauge where even if you stop, look at her and go constitutes a "gesture" for offer to engage. As always be safe and there is no bullet proof method to stay safe.[/QUOTE]This is true Gil. Decoy to me is 'SW working for le'. Instead of UC. UC will never get in the ride. My bad if a I confused anyone with my wording.

[QUOTE=SlickJr;3262962]This is true Gil. Decoy to me is 'SW working for le'. Instead of UC. UC will never get in the ride. My bad if a I confused anyone with my wording.[/QUOTE]Well I know what I see almost every day over there and this one is not a decoy she's a sheriff's dep. She got in a car, sorry this isn't 1970, it's a new day, new rules and LE don't play fair.

[QUOTE=LetsTry12;3262676]Any clues what she looks like??[/QUOTE]Here's a pic of her.

[QUOTE=Jbfe147;3263013]Here's a pic of her.[/QUOTE]She's a little thinner now (the candy) and seemed closer to blond, but yeah, that's her. Still amazed by her skills and enthusiasm.

Here's your confirmed case. She was on the corner in front of the Ratskeller on the Are. I turned down the side street. She got in. I proceeded to the stop sign then made a left right into a hornet's nest. All of that is history for me now, but I learned alot. Many of my mistakes I found in the USASG rule book after the fact. Good stuff in there. Good advice from members here as well.

Frogiii.

[QUOTE=Hargow20;3261594]Did the decoy actually get in your car and drive off with you before they busted you. ? Personally I have never actually seen a confirmed case where a police decoy actually got in and drove off with a guy. Now I have seen on cops where a decoy will step in a guys car and they will bust him before he closes the door and drives off. A good way to protect yourself is offer the girl a ride drive off 2 or 3 blocks before doing the cop check etc. There is actually case law that allows you give a girl a ride regardless if she is working girl or not. There is law called statutory interpretation that the law libraries have. Now if the cops did choose to bust you there is probably a you can fight this get the case dropped or win. Go hire a aggressive attorney and have him file a bunch of motions. Then go to the arraignment, plead not guilty and ask for a trial. They may drop the case then or you wait till start of the trial and see if they drop it then. If not you can always change your plea to guilty. The prosecutor will not hold it against you.[/QUOTE]