Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Ryan1979;5634622]The "implied" is only a carrot IMO. The strippers I've gotten lucky with straight out tell me what they'll do in or out of the club.[/QUOTE]In most cases I'd agree with you, but I've also seen plenty of extras w / no mention of it, as well as the really blunt ones who leave nothing to the imagination. LOL.

[QUOTE=Ryan1979;5634622]The "implied" is only a carrot IMO. The strippers I've gotten lucky with straight out tell me what they'll do in or out of the club.[/QUOTE]This is true. Most girls who are willing to do more will say it because they know guys will pay for it. Honestly to me going to the strip club is just a different type of fun that is different from MP, escorts. Meeting a girl that you think is crazy hot and seeing what she's into. Sometimes she's straight forward and you know what you're getting. other times it takes more time, patience, and $. If you are willing to put that effort/$ it could become something worth it. And I don't think this stands just for dancers, but for most providers. That's why its always YMMV.

[QUOTE=AJaxer11;5636212]This is true. Most girls who are willing to do more will say it because they know guys will pay for it. Honestly to me going to the strip club is just a different type of fun that is different from MP, escorts. Meeting a girl that you think is crazy hot and seeing what she's into. Sometimes she's straight forward and you know what you're getting. other times it takes more time, patience, and $. If you are willing to put that effort/$ it could become something worth it. And I don't think this stands just for dancers, but for most providers. That's why its always YMMV.[/QUOTE]That was my exact appeal for strip clubs as well, but now I'm lazy and literally get more bang for my buck at the spas. I've brought a few girlfriends and spa girls to strip clubs. They were totally fascinated and some have replicated a strip tease and lap dance for me at the spa and out of the spa. Giggity giggity goo!

Wed night.

Really good vibe at the new owner and management club.

While some of the previous dancers are still there (Mandy) it's pretty much a total redo.

Previously the endless nagging for tips upon coming off pole, sometimes 3 within a minute of each other has been greatly scaled back for the better.

Average age also much lower, and from what I've been told this is across all the main SD strip clubs.

Very relaxed. Accommodating staff.

The dancers it was a good variety of fat, skinny, toned, all colors.

[QUOTE=AJaxer11;5633662]Agreed, it was a great time. The only reason I mention YMMV is because I know for a fact there will be people who read my post, go to Cheetah's and expect a girl to put out. It's not that simple. It's all about chemistry and how comfortable they are with you, and actually whether they are even open to doing anything. I've had a couple similar expenses at expose but the girls aren't as hot there IMO.[/QUOTE]In no way shape or form is this an intended "counter" to AJaxers posts on Cheetahs because he has all along said YVMV and given solid reasons for his reviews.

Congrats, and all it takes is one fantastic.

That having been said, my purpose in posting is if others in addition to action were looking for a good supply of very nice eye candy, imo they have fallen way down since 3-4 years ago. By that I mean whether one gets action or not, previously they had a bunch of nice and nice looking dancers. Now, not so much. Repeat, imo. A lot of blah personalities to go with the meh looks. Just in general. Obviously AJaxer caught a good one and I did have a good interchange with a couple that I might be back to sample. Don't be hatin, I'm not saying they are all 3's and 4's but if one likes to find some stunners I'm not seeing them as previously.

[QUOTE=AJaxer11;5630490]I found my way into Cheetah's yesterday as I had an appointment to see a provider but had some time to kill before. I went in early in the evening as the evening shift was just getting started. I've been there often enough over the last couple years that I recognize most of the faces, but the girl who was dancing was someone I haven't seen before. Big MM titties, petite and skinny with a nice sizeable and proportional butt. We made eye contact as she was dancing and I did my duty of throwing a few ones on the stage and went back to my seat. She comes around after her dances and we start to chat. I came in there with the self expectation of not getting dances and just tipping stage dancers as I am just trying to kill time but this girl convinced me otherwise. We make our way back to the VIP (5 songs /15 min for 100) and we are the only ones back there. She starts dancing, and guys there is not many better feelings than having a young hottie grinding her ass and tits all over you. She let's me introduce myself to her body and we are having a great time. All of a sudden she reaches into my pants and starts jerking me off while putting her tits in my mouth. Was not expecting that! She keeps going and she finishes me off under my pants. Fuck, now it's a whole mess. She sneaks to the back to grab some napkins and I clean myself up. I get up to leave, thinking that our time was up but she pushes me back down and we chat and flirt for a few more songs. I thank her for the experience. I was thinking "fuck. She's going to want way more cash for that and I didn't come here planning for that. I ask her how many songs was that? She says 5. I could have swore it was at least 7. I hand her 5 jacksons and a wad of 1's that I've been carrying around. Thank her for the great time. She gives me her number and told me to come back next week for her as she's going to be out of town for a week. I very well might.

I very rarely have these type of encounters at Cheetahs as I feel like they are pretty strict but this girl definitely proved me wrong. Now put Cheetahs back on the radar for me. If you want to know more information, drop me a PM. Don't bother messaging me if you aren't a regular contributor of this forum.[/QUOTE]Went there today, tried the ice box with a girl, didn't get more than I expected. Not as lucky as you. The 100 $ five song is the best deal since the 'private room' is not that 'private'.

But afterall a good trip, watch some shows, throw some dollars, some private dance, fully relaxed.

(BTW the taco outside is really good. Everyone who when there should try it LOL.).

I have said this in a PM, and I'll say this here, if anyone has the urge to throw $350 at a lady in the icebox, just know you always have the option of going to Hong Kong and getting a lap dance for $23 plus $1 tip to the mesero. In Hong Kong, the ladies' goal is to persuade you to go upstairs with her, where she'll suck your cock CBJ. The lap dances there are as naughty as you both can agree it to be.

For the sake of convenience, and you want or need to stay stateside, if you want to spend $300 at Cheetahs, far better to take 3 ladies to the VIP. What I like to do is see if you can negotiate with the lady. Instead of $100 for 5 songs, see if they would be game for $120 for 7 songs. If they are game to the latter, that lady becomes an instant favorite.

Regarding the taco stand just outside Cheetahs, tried it once, excellent! I also highly recommend it!

However, it reminded me too much of Hong Kong's set up. Love the outside taco stand! Carne asada ($1.75), adobada ($1.25), and birria ($1.25) tacos all day!. Next time I visit, I also need to try their birria sopa ($1.50). There's also an awesome pancake stand up the sidewalk ($1.25).

Cheers.

[QUOTE=HaiwaiPaowang;5660843]Went there today, tried the ice box with a girl, didn't get more than I expected. Not as lucky as you. The 100 $ five song is the best deal since the 'private room' is not that 'private'.

But afterall a good trip, watch some shows, throw some dollars, some private dance, fully relaxed.

(BTW the taco outside is really good. Everyone who when there should try it LOL.).[/QUOTE]

Icebox is really deceptive. I've fell for it a number of times back in the day. What I learned is that girls who are going to do more things in VIP / Icebox tend to be more upfront. If anytime a girl says something like "you'll have to try it to find out" yeah nothing's going to happen. I do agree that the VIP with 3 girls is a much better option. I have negotiated and even had 10 songs for 150 $ in there once cause we were talking and enjoying each other's company.

TJ is definitely the better deal in all aspects. I don't speak a bit of Spanish but even then I was able to have a good time the few times I went. Due to the nature of my job going across the border is a bit more difficult for me so I tend to not really go anymore these days.

[QUOTE=CuriousJo8;5661430]I have said this in a PM, and I'll say this here, if anyone has the urge to throw $350 at a lady in the icebox, just know you always have the option of going to Hong Kong and getting a lap dance for $23 plus $1 tip to the mesero. In Hong Kong, the ladies' goal is to persuade you to go upstairs with her, where she'll suck your cock CBJ. The lap dances there are as naughty as you both can agree it to be.

For the sake of convenience, and you want or need to stay stateside, if you want to spend $300 at Cheetahs, far better to take 3 ladies to the VIP. What I like to do is see if you can negotiate with the lady. Instead of $100 for 5 songs, see if they would be game for $120 for 7 songs. If they are game to the latter, that lady becomes an instant favorite.

Regarding the taco stand just outside Cheetahs, tried it once, excellent! I also highly recommend it!

However, it reminded me too much of Hong Kong's set up. Love the outside taco stand! Carne asada ($1.75), adobada ($1.25), and birria ($1.25) tacos all day!. Next time I visit, I also need to try their birria sopa ($1.50). There's also an awesome pancake stand up the sidewalk ($1.25).

Cheers.[/QUOTE]That make sense. Unfortunately I'm in a similar situation as AJ, kinda busy here. One day I definitely need to find a holiday to visit TJ.

I doubt you can get extras here due to the fact its only that lounge with the booths, and the manager comes in every 2 songs. I did overhear this cute asian girl not so lowkey offering to meet up for massages to a guy while sitting near the stage, didn't get a chance to speak with her or catch her name.

Long time monger, 38 years, rare poster. With regards to Cheetahs I have been an off and on regular for 20 years. I am obviously not a spring chicken. I have had bbciv with 3 girls in VIP room multiple times, many BBBJ's. You need to have some game and know the right girls through a lot of trial and error. You can have a really good time there on the right occasion. I used to have the same luck down at the Body shop before it closed. Good luck out there.

Hi all,

As mentioned in the title I'm a newcomer to the strip club scene. I'll be alone in San Diego next week and would like to experience some clubs. From what I've read in the forum, Cheetahs and Pacers are the most reviewed ones. However, I'm open for other recommendations.

Do you have any tips on how to approach to these places? Oh, and BTW, does anyone how could I arrive to the clubs using public transport?

Thanks a lot!

Anyone ever check out Adult Emporium on Convoy? (A parking lot over fom Med Men dispensary.) Sign said there was nude dancing, though I'm guessing it's probably just meth-milfs making some bucks.

[QUOTE=HordePrime;5712930]Anyone ever check out Adult Emporium on Convoy? (A parking lot over fom Med Men dispensary.) Sign said there was nude dancing, though I'm guessing it's probably just meth-milfs making some bucks.[/QUOTE]When I went there 7 years ago, they had private dances. More like a theatre style than a strip club. Not sure if Covid has affected it though. The Jolar adult store off University hasnt had dancers in the past 2 years. Just give them a call and ask.

[QUOTE=DarkGable1262;5697760]Long time monger, 38 years, rare poster. With regards to Cheetahs I have been an off and on regular for 20 years. I am obviously not a spring chicken. I have had bbciv with 3 girls in VIP room multiple times, many BBBJ's. You need to have some game and know the right girls through a lot of trial and error. You can have a really good time there on the right occasion. I used to have the same luck down at the Body shop before it closed. Good luck out there.[/QUOTE]What I like about Cheetas is if you aren't as suave or not into skanky strippers, you can just prance over to Angel Spa next door and if you like the girl, I've gotten a BBBJ, DATY, FIV, DFK, CFS for less then $2 and a decent massage as a bonus. Of course YMMV but in general they have a full menu.

[QUOTE=DarkGable1262;5697760]Long time monger, 38 years, rare poster. With regards to Cheetahs I have been an off and on regular for 20 years. I am obviously not a spring chicken. I have had bbciv with 3 girls in VIP room multiple times, many BBBJ's. You need to have some game and know the right girls through a lot of trial and error. You can have a really good time there on the right occasion. I used to have the same luck down at the Body shop before it closed. Good luck out there.[/QUOTE]I've been going there also for about the same time. I also have gotten bbciv and bbjcim with a few girls in the VIP room. It was better before they made the other side dance room with more VIP dance stalls. Also it depended which shift and manager was working at the time. One girl I took to the VIP after I was done with her told me she was getting locked up again because she violated her parole.

[QUOTE=DarkGable1262;5697760]Long time monger, 38 years, rare poster. With regards to Cheetahs I have been an off and on regular for 20 years. I am obviously not a spring chicken. I have had bbciv with 3 girls in VIP room multiple times, many BBBJ's. You need to have some game and know the right girls through a lot of trial and error. You can have a really good time there on the right occasion. I used to have the same luck down at the Body shop before it closed. Good luck out there.[/QUOTE]I miss the Body Shop. I had lots of action in the private booths / rooms back in the days. Lots of young hotties that also became escorts.

[QUOTE=HordePrime;5712930]Anyone ever check out Adult Emporium on Convoy? (A parking lot over fom Med Men dispensary.) Sign said there was nude dancing, though I'm guessing it's probably just meth-milfs making some bucks.[/QUOTE]It's just a peep show setup like the used to have at Jolar. Girl gets nude and fingerblasts herself behind plexiglass while you rub one out. No chance for extras. I suppose it's always possible somebody here has lured them away for some off the clock fun, but I doubt it. If anyone else knows better, please feel free to correct me.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5719321]I miss the Body Shop. I had lots of action in the private booths / rooms back in the days. Lots of young hotties that also became escorts.[/QUOTE]I know when Body Shop closed, a number of those ladies ended up working at Pure Platinum. I know there were at least a couple I'd definitely hit up if I knew they were escorting these days. Haha.

[QUOTE=DarkGable1262;5697760]Long time monger, 38 years, rare poster. With regards to Cheetahs I have been an off and on regular for 20 years. I am obviously not a spring chicken. I have had bbciv with 3 girls in VIP room multiple times, many BBBJ's. You need to have some game and know the right girls through a lot of trial and error. You can have a really good time there on the right occasion. I used to have the same luck down at the Body shop before it closed. Good luck out there.[/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, what was your tip for the BBCIV experience plus the cost of the VIP room?

Anybody gotten any extras here??

[QUOTE=WeedInSd420;5754530]Anybody gotten any extras here??[/QUOTE]I don't even know when they are open anymore. I drove by last night and the security gate around the patio was pulled closed.

Various websites say open after 9 PM on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Back in the day you would get a lap dance in the back but they had a security camera on you.

[QUOTE=JitMarc;5713041]When I went there 7 years ago, they had private dances. More like a theatre style than a strip club. Not sure if Covid has affected it though. The Jolar adult store off University hasnt had dancers in the past 2 years. Just give them a call and ask.[/QUOTE]Private shows rather than dances.

A picture of the booth.

[URL]https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/adult-emporium-san-diego?select=m_WgkSYPydqRTwT9Z7ZJqg[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jaysd80;5716040]I've been going there also for about the same time. I also have gotten bbciv and bbjcim with a few girls in the VIP room. It was better before they made the other side dance room with more VIP dance stalls. Also it depended which shift and manager was working at the time. One girl I took to the VIP after I was done with her told me she was getting locked up again because she violated her parole.[/QUOTE]Can you give an example of one that still works there? =) maybe to get lucky as well.

[QUOTE=DemrWeb;5775675]Can you give an example of one that still works there? =) maybe to get lucky as well.[/QUOTE]Go in and talk to girls and make your own moves and try to make something happen. Every situation is YMMV.

[QUOTE=AJaxer11;5776607]Go in and talk to girls and make your own moves and try to make something happen. Every situation is YMMV.[/QUOTE]So true about every situation is different and YMMV. I hear guys getting disappointed after going to a strip club or massage parlors / spas because they read posts / reviews and expect the same experience / treatment. Guys still PM me and ask how many visits it took with a certain provider before the menu opened up, or how they can get a nonFS massage girl to become their UTR and provide extras. It's call having chemistry and YMMV! You have to just go and see the girls and develop rapport and make the ladies feel comfortable.

So true indeed. I used to go to strip clubs while on business trips. Lived in Chicago where the scene was pretty awful, although a had friends at various places and we'd do take-out. In other towns, Detroit, Houston, Tampa, Jax, MSP, West Palm and other places in So Fla, New York, Philly. Each place had it's one style and vibe. But the common theme, is to relax and be friendly. I'd lay back and sit at the bar. Since I'd be new in town, I often would ask a girl how the "place works" and what are the rules? The girls would usually be pretty direct about what was available. Think of it as trying to pet a deer. No sudden moves. Let her come to you. I'd also walk over to the stage and tip the dancer. Then retrun to the bar.

All that said, I've generally moved on to AMPs. I learned to speak Chinese and I could have a nice chat with the girl. I would usually go to a non-he place and make friends. See them on their days off. Eat, go shopping. Then eventually to a their apartment. Once again its a long game. There was a time when I would walk thru Chicago Chinatown with a girl and have to be careful what street I was onto avoid being spotted by another friend. Other tips. Use WeChat to add friends to your contact list. It includes translation and it is easy to set up meetings. Also make sure you have Google Translate on your phone.

In all these cases, be prepared. I always had hats, generic viagra, and a knowledge ot all the no-tels in Chicago. Be clean. Be friendly. Listen to them. Take your time.

Bob.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5777216]So true about every situation is different and YMMV. I hear guys getting disappointed after going to a strip club or massage parlors / spas because they read posts / reviews and expect the same experience / treatment. Guys still PM me and ask how many visits it took with a certain provider before the menu opened up, or how they can get a nonFS massage girl to become their UTR and provide extras. It's call having chemistry and YMMV! You have to just go and see the girls and develop rapport and make the ladies feel comfortable.[/QUOTE]

Dropped by here after invited by a girl I met at a different club. What I noticed at least Sunday night is that it had about 4 high end hotties and all of two dudes as patrons. Not sure what the deal is with this club. Lap dance area is pretty well lit and doesn't feel like a place for easy extras but who knows. Maybe a better VIP booth somewhere else, similar to cheetahs? Simply the small club feel to it with the main area not even with tables and the sale of lottery tickets up front makes it feel 'shady' enough that extras might be easy to get but I don't know. Anyone patronize expose pre pandemic? How was it?

Your wisdom and and gentle manner are apparent. I practice what you preach, but still appreciate your posts as it reinforces my thoughts and still pick up a few pointers. The ability to speak Chinese, Korean a little Thai, Japanese and Vietnamese is a huge advantage in the AMP world especially if you've also got a little game. You're a true gentleman and a scholar in the world of mongering.

[QUOTE=Bob521;5778925]So true indeed. I used to go to strip clubs while on business trips. Lived in Chicago where the scene was pretty awful, although a had friends at various places and we'd do take-out. In other towns, Detroit, Houston, Tampa, Jax, MSP, West Palm and other places in So Fla, New York, Philly. Each place had it's one style and vibe. But the common theme, is to relax and be friendly. I'd lay back and sit at the bar. Since I'd be new in town, I often would ask a girl how the "place works" and what are the rules? The girls would usually be pretty direct about what was available. Think of it as trying to pet a deer. No sudden moves. Let her come to you. I'd also walk over to the stage and tip the dancer. Then retrun to the bar.

All that said, I've generally moved on to AMPs. I learned to speak Chinese and I could have a nice chat with the girl. I would usually go to a non-he place and make friends. See them on their days off. Eat, go shopping. Then eventually to a their apartment. Once again its a long game. There was a time when I would walk thru Chicago Chinatown with a girl and have to be careful what street I was onto avoid being spotted by another friend. Other tips. Use WeChat to add friends to your contact list. It includes translation and it is easy to set up meetings. Also make sure you have Google Translate on your phone..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Habeed;5789151]Dropped by here after invited by a girl I met at a different club. What I noticed at least Sunday night is that it had about 4 high end hotties and all of two dudes as patrons. Not sure what the deal is with this club. Lap dance area is pretty well lit and doesn't feel like a place for easy extras but who knows. Maybe a better VIP booth somewhere else, similar to cheetahs? Simply the small club feel to it with the main area not even with tables and the sale of lottery tickets up front makes it feel 'shady' enough that extras might be easy to get but I don't know. Anyone patronize expose pre pandemic? How was it?[/QUOTE]Years ago, I used to get dances from one hottie who would rub me through my pants until I came. She was actually the manager's gf, and she had to leave the club after they split up. Since then, I've never gotten extras, though I haven't really tried either. Expose is mainly notable I think for being the main club in SD to bring in porn stars as feature dancers. Pre-pandemic a lot of my faves came through, like Kayden Kross, Jenna Haze, Jillian Janson. During the pandemic, the star level I think has declined, with most of the feature dancers being "professional pole dancers" I've never heard of, though Kenna James still comes through. The porn stars were usually what I went to the club for, and obviously you weren't getting intimate with them without spending absurd sums. The regular girls on those nights did not generally impress me, with the exception of Mexican Jessica, who does fbsm services outside the club and has been discussed in that thread. It could be the hottest ones intentionally did not work the porn star nights. I've heard that happens because they think it's a waste of their time, since everybody is just there to see the porn star, though I'd think that should drive up business for everyone.

Any one visited this place after COVID?.

[QUOTE=Mack619;5790629]Any one visited this place after COVID?.[/QUOTE]Nope. From my own history, its sounds like D team all day erry day. And running into a classmate that worked there. She was not cute or good at dancing! Woof!

But then again, I missed Cindy Starfall and Katana Kombat (YIKES!) when they daance there before they dance a weekend at Deja Vu Tijuana.

[QUOTE=Dwykz619;5790834]Nope. From my own history, its sounds like D team all day erry day. And running into a classmate that worked there. She was not cute or good at dancing! Woof!

But then again, I missed Cindy Starfall and Katana Kombat (YIKES!) when they dance there before they dance a weekend at Deja Vu Tijuana.[/QUOTE]They had four very pretty Latin young ladies very thin (8's), two black girls one tall thin (8) and a slim thick (8), one Caucasian young lady (7).

Surprising most had poll skill that were very good. Lap dance was ok. All but two were very friendly, two were extra friendly.

[QUOTE=Mack619;5792611]They had four very pretty Latin young ladies very thin (8's), two black girls one tall thin (8) and a slim thick (8), one Caucasian young lady (7).

Surprising most had poll skill that were very good. Lap dance was ok. All but two were very friendly, two were extra friendly.[/QUOTE]I had a dance with a tall thick white girl with glasses. They just posted her on IG, but I forget her name. Was super chill, pole skill was pretty good.

Been a minute since there has been posts. Anyone knows what's the good 1-4 on best SD spots and potential. Benefits? Or recent YMMV experiences?

[QUOTE=SteadyWins;5857312]Been a minute since there has been posts. Anyone knows what's the good 1-4 on best SD spots and potential. Benefits? Or recent YMMV experiences?[/QUOTE]Everyone has their types.

Chris will definitely help lead you to your type. Don't be shy about telling him what kind of dancer you like.

Great customer service.

Got a dance on my way home with Maria. I grazed her pussy over her panties and she whispered in my ear it's a Ben to touch. Anyone have any experience with her? What else is on the menu? DM me if you have some info. Thanks.

[QUOTE=B0N3R;5916688]Got a dance on my way home with Maria. I grazed her pussy over her panties and she whispered in my ear it's a Ben to touch. Anyone have any experience with her? What else is on the menu? DM me if you have some info. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's called "Golden Pussy Syndrome" (GPS).

Once you discover the magical world of 'Asian Massage Parlors' -You'll forget all about stupid Strip Clubs, and never look back! ~Your Welcome.

[QUOTE=Jaguar300ZX;5917121]It's called "Golden Pussy Syndrome" (GPS).

Once you discover the magical world of 'Asian Massage Parlors' -You'll forget all about stupid Strip Clubs, and never look back! ~Your Welcome.[/QUOTE]Don't agree with that at all on any level. They are completely different experiences. I guess if you only want to get to a HF or full service as fast as possible a MP is a good choice. But lap dances and the experience of a strip club can be 10 times more sensual and erotic than a MP. The tease and buildup and interaction is just different and can be quite enjoyable. Nothing wrong with MPs but they are not even remotely similar experiences. Plus there is much greater variety in a strip club to find a girl that really is your type and gets you going.

Get the best of both worlds.

If you want both the boom boom and the strip club action, there is always Hong Kong.

People have different moods for different things. Some people like quick fucks, others like the tease and thrill of something more. Then there are guys who think the thought of crossing the border to surround yourself with sexually eager young women is a pain in the ass and not worth the effort and parking. To each their own.

[QUOTE=JohnnySD;5917822]Don't agree with that at all on any level. They are completely different experiences. I guess if you only want to get to a HF or full service as fast as possible a MP is a good choice. But lap dances and the experience of a strip club can be 10 times more sensual and erotic than a MP. The tease and buildup and interaction is just different and can be quite enjoyable. Nothing wrong with MPs but they are not even remotely similar experiences. Plus there is much greater variety in a strip club to find a girl that really is your type and gets you going.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jaguar300ZX;5917121]It's called "Golden Pussy Syndrome" (GPS).

Once you discover the magical world of 'Asian Massage Parlors' -You'll forget all about stupid Strip Clubs, and never look back! ~Your Welcome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=B0N3R;5916688]Got a dance on my way home with Maria. I grazed her pussy over her panties and she whispered in my ear it's a Ben to touch. Anyone have any experience with her? What else is on the menu? DM me if you have some info. Thanks.[/QUOTE]