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06-19-22 13:15 #287
Posts: 49You Hague's are all morons. Decriminalize drugs. Yeah, OK. While we're at it, let's put more guns in schools to stop school shootings. Let's arm the kids and give them heroin. You guys go to great lengths to defend junkie ******. Junkie ****** are not even human.
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06-19-22 10:05 #286
Posts: 769Originally Posted by Budd2 [View Original Post]
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06-19-22 09:32 #285
Posts: 1078Many Americans
Originally Posted by Budd2 [View Original Post]
C92.
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06-19-22 08:29 #284
Posts: 892Religion, legalization
These two areas are also big problems. Religion's beliefs are primarily (in reality) to control people thru fear of spending eternity in hell. A fantasy created by religionists that cannot be proven or disproven due to its nature. And, women support it because religion attempts to control the natural and biological desires of men.
Legalization in piecemeal fashion will never work because the other governments, state and federal, won't legalize drugs, and even if they did they would and will tax the hell out of it, just like alcohol and tobacco. If the government would just get the hell out of restricting drugs, and I mean local, state, AND federal, the problem would naturally decrease.
No smuggling. No gang wars over turf. No dealers glorifying drug use in order to increase their profit.
That wouldn't mean people wouldn't still use drugs. Always have always will. However, it would cost so much less to be able to buy whatever from your local pharmacy that crime would be dramatically reduced. After all, many men are addicts and they steal and do whatever they have to do to support their habits. Also, purity would be controlled, and for those who want to get off drugs their would be so much money available from the savings of not having hundreds of thousands in prison that it wouldn't be a problem.
Cheech.
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06-19-22 07:49 #283
Posts: 1272100% correct
Originally Posted by Asmoth [View Original Post]
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06-19-22 06:16 #282
Posts: 59Portland is latest example of why legalization fails.
There always seems an excuse or reason for failure. Until some city can be successful in legalizing drugs and not end up killing a bunch of people or increasing crime, I can't support it. I don't believe governments have the ability to manage anything well. Feel free to identify any successful transition for legalized drugs.
Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]
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06-19-22 03:25 #281
Posts: 850My two cents.
The problem is as described by the admin and cheech but also tied to one other thing in politics.
Religion.
We have too many politicians who dictate that sex is bad and paying for it is against the ideals of a made up rule book from ancient history.
This is just one of the examples of why they shouldn't allow religion to have any sway in politics and need to actually SEPARATE church and state from one another.
If they didn't have to pander to the all these religious groups they wouldn't give two shits ultimately about hookers and johns fucking.
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06-18-22 14:55 #280
Posts: 1078Amen
Originally Posted by Cheech1 [View Original Post]
C92.
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06-18-22 08:36 #279
Posts: 892Decriminalization
I agree with Admin. Not too many people know about Anslinger, in fact he was trying to keep his power and position as all government employees do, as the end of prohibition, (another miserable failure,) was going to end his job, power, and the employment of thousands of "Revenue Agents" who he controlled. Its not that they were too stupid to see that prohibition failed and created the greatest revenue generating opportunity the various mobs had ever seen, its that they didn't want to lose the power.
Not only does criminalization of substances people want create hundreds of thousands of jobs, think prisons, cops, social workers, and everyone involved, but it also creates addicts, because now that the material is only available on the black market, the cost of that material skyrockets and creates mass earning opportunity. That then causes the people at the street sales level to want to create more addicts to increase there profits.
I could go on. At length.
But none of these problems we have today existed on a significant level prior to criminalization.
Cheech.
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06-18-22 08:01 #278
Posts: 4936Yes there is
Originally Posted by DBrown656 [View Original Post]
https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug...ecord-straight
FYI "forced stays in rehab" is just a different kind of jail. Before Harry Anslinger made up all the lies about drugs and got them criminalized so he could get a job people used to be able to walk into a drug store and buy what they wanted, then they went home and took it and went to work the next day. I've been sober forever, availability of drugs doesn't make addicts, lack of community and childhood trauma is what creates addicts.
Before you throw out the next "but I don't want to pay for their drugs" line, for what you are currently spending to jail addicts you could give every junkie in the world all the dope they would ever use plus give them a place to live and still spend less tax payer money. It wouldn't be as satisfying as knowing you were locking those scumbags up but it would be less money.
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06-18-22 07:39 #277
Posts: 59Portland decriminalized drugs
Overdose deaths increased by 41%.
Murders increased 109%.
Addicts shooting up in public on the streets.
There is no perfect answer.
Maybe decriminalization could work if drug treatment was mandatory and forced stays at drug recovery centers with mental health support.
For some, the drugs have already destroyed any chance at recovery.
Originally Posted by Chunks92 [View Original Post]
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06-18-22 01:34 #276
Posts: 144Prevention
Originally Posted by Chunks92 [View Original Post]
"A social community beat the power of drugs. ".
"Mother Theresa, not someone often quoted in medical journals, said, 'If you want to change the world, go home and love your family. '.
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06-17-22 19:20 #275
Posts: 1078Eloquently said
Originally Posted by Navritol [View Original Post]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWpAJ4Lcu4Q
At the end of the day, they are branded as felons and put in the cages the elite have crafted for them, and no matter how hard they try, they can't make enough money at the jobs they can get as felons so they fall right back into addiction. Representing the cages that Morgan Freeman deserved everyone to be freed from. The difference between addiction and non addiction is all about environment. If people were all living comfortably and not worried about how to pay for necessities, all of this suffering would be non-existent. Here is an article that proves just that. Decriminalize.
https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/vie...bout-addiction
C92.
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06-17-22 00:55 #274
Posts: 144No man is an island
Originally Posted by Chunks92 [View Original Post]
"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. ".
We all will die: the bell will toll for each one of us.
https://www.yourdailypoem.com/listpoem.jsp?poem_id=2118
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06-16-22 14:00 #273
Posts: 313Originally Posted by CleveLoser [View Original Post]
As expressed in another thread I believe, or maybe it was even here, this is part of the unseen toll of the drug epidemic. People die from infections, complications, suicide. The toll on families and society at large.