Unreliable providers list

[RoadWarrior615]

Correct the Gubmit has our unlimited resources but by making it more difficult for obtaining search warrants across local, state, federal, and international it makes it hard to flip the switch in a moments notice. For instance you mentioned IP address for that I use TOR (The Onion Router) which gives me an egress with different IP address each time I use it and also can be changed in mid-flight I can use international or domestic egress points. I also make sure the GPS isn't enabled on phone I use (app, burner, etc.).

So yes they have unlimited resources to come after us but in the end they are like us with chicks. If a chick takes to dang long to setup a hookup and when you get there you find was misdirecting you to the wrong place you / we say screw it ain't worth the time.

I have personally had to enable CALEA on some of my equipment before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commun...nforcement_Act

Just want to add on, using apps like Gv or any other voip app, once you download it on your phone and use the app, they have your real phone number, phone IP and phone mac and serial number and most of time they can see your accounts on your phone. The app developers can see all of that including GV.

Alot of you do not know that.

So basically if your using a app for your ghost number your already busted. I made some apps that are in the app store. I can see the mac and serial number and IP address of the phone, I can see their real number and email account names.

[Robert1122]

Yes I did make a massively massive mistake here and obviously do not recommend but let my stupid mistake be your guide to not make it. I would ask that if anyone knows which hotel she is at each day you PM it to me there may have been a report made about a theft.

I have found out more info about her that I can't post here but just know this if you avoid you will have a happier life.

She has a medical issue when scared she goes into a seizure and that is how she ended up in my home. All I wanted was a car BBBJ but some cops passed by our location with lights and sirens on traveling real fast through the neighborhood and I wondered aloud if they were after us.

When I realized the weren't I turned back to the job at hand and I saw that she was shaking real bad in the passenger seat unable to talk or move voluntarily and after a few minutes I realized she was having a seizure. I didn't want to leave her alone without anyone to look over her because what can happen to a non-monitored person having a seizure. So I took her back to my place carried her to my bed (shaking all the way) and for the next 5 to 6 hours I made sure she didn't choke on any vomit if she did vomit also made sure that she didn't bite and swallow her tongue.

So she repaid me for watching over her by removing my dead parents wedding bands from a chest of drawers in my second bedroom.

I can deal with shit disappearing that I can replace but I can't replace those rings. I am willing to let by gones be by gones if I knew where she may have pawned them so I could buy them back no questions asked. They are simple and plain with very low value other than what they mean to me and my family.

I hope the ADMIN doesn't delete this post.

Sounds like her cummer was stuck.

[Ktucky79]

Well you could just say you found her on the sidewalk while driving down the road and take her phone with you when you drop her off at the hospital.

When I was going through everything in mind (post mortem) I asked myself what would if took her to the hospital then I thought oh yeah cameras and license plate on camera.

If happens again with another chick I'll just have to see how handle it.

Thanks for the feedback.

[Jman3848]

When I was going through everything in mind (post mortem) I asked myself what would if took her to the hospital then I thought oh yeah cameras and license plate on camera.

If happens again with another chick I'll just have to see how handle it.

Thanks for the feedback.

Damn Bubba. Just Damn.

[CashBubba]

Yes I did make a massively massive mistake here and obviously do not recommend but let my stupid mistake be your guide to not make it. I would ask that if anyone knows which hotel she is at each day you PM it to me there may have been a report made about a theft.

I have found out more info about her that I can't post here but just know this if you avoid you will have a happier life.

She has a medical issue when scared she goes into a seizure and that is how she ended up in my home. All I wanted was a car BBBJ but some cops passed by our location with lights and sirens on traveling real fast through the neighborhood and I wondered aloud if they were after us.

When I realized the weren't I turned back to the job at hand and I saw that she was shaking real bad in the passenger seat unable to talk or move voluntarily and after a few minutes I realized she was having a seizure. I didn't want to leave her alone without anyone to look over her because what can happen to a non-monitored person having a seizure. So I took her back to my place carried her to my bed (shaking all the way) and for the next 5 to 6 hours I made sure she didn't choke on any vomit if she did vomit also made sure that she didn't bite and swallow her tongue.

So she repaid me for watching over her by removing my dead parents wedding bands from a chest of drawers in my second bedroom.

I can deal with shit disappearing that I can replace but I can't replace those rings. I am willing to let by gones be by gones if I knew where she may have pawned them so I could buy them back no questions asked. They are simple and plain with very low value other than what they mean to me and my family.

I hope the ADMIN doesn't delete this post.

I was texting to the number listed in the ad yesterday and finally got a response and it appears that the number belonged to a chick that was helping her out by posting her ad and taking calls for her. The chick texted back that she is no longer helping her and she removed her number from Jewel's ad. When I saw her she had her phone and number which was in her ad about 3 days ago.

Not sure if anyone else texted her but she is losing her support network bit by bit.

Later Taters.

[Ktucky79]

She has been discussed in BP reviews about having two ads and her services several months ago. You may want to do some searches before seeing a girl it may save you from TOFTT when someone has already seen her.

Should known called two different ads two different numbers yet same voice answers both times. Go to the incall very nice apartment complex girl answers door doesn't anything like any of the ads pics should of walked away but already had time invested and she was ok definitely not the 30 or 36 the ads say guessing closer to 40. This one was a TOFTT / the price was the only truthful thing about the ad.

[CashBubba]

Oh don't get this wrong. Having a monger phone and GV number is about keeping yourself private from the girls and the craziness of the world they live in.

If you think such a set up is going to keep you hidden from the Gubmint, you have another things coming. Buddy of mine who was a cop, now a shyster pointed out to me years ago, that the Gubmint has unlimited resources and IF they want to find you, the can & will find you! On a solicitation charge, LE ain't gunna spend the money to track you down, but if it involves a death or something that makes the news, then the incentive is to find you. So best to behave as a good citizen and recognize the protection one is getting is keep the SW world in one box and your life in another. Never the two shall meet!

Problem is that we use our burner phones or GV numbers to do things we don't think about that help make you trackable. Set up that GV number or Burner phone from a computer at home with a known IP addy? How about at work or a public library with a sign0in sheet? Download some apps that "need" access to the GPS section of the phone? Go buy anything, go on social media or anything else associated with your real identity with the burner? Pay cash regularly at the same location each month for the burner phone? I'm sure there are many ways I can't think of that end up making one track-able / traceable by a determined foe with unlimited resources.

Don't fool yourself that your good cleverness is ALL protective. When one lets them self get in hubris like that is usually when trouble finds you.

Anyway, stay safe and good luck!

Correct the Gubmit has our unlimited resources but by making it more difficult for obtaining search warrants across local, state, federal, and international it makes it hard to flip the switch in a moments notice. For instance you mentioned IP address for that I use TOR (The Onion Router) which gives me an egress with different IP address each time I use it and also can be changed in mid-flight I can use international or domestic egress points. I also make sure the GPS isn't enabled on phone I use (app, burner, etc.).

So yes they have unlimited resources to come after us but in the end they are like us with chicks. If a chick takes to dang long to setup a hookup and when you get there you find was misdirecting you to the wrong place you / we say screw it ain't worth the time.

I have personally had to enable CALEA on some of my equipment before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commun...nforcement_Act

[CashBubba]

Well if you were willing to drive her to your home and watch over her for 6 hours then you ought to be willing to drive her to the nearest Emergency Room or Firehouse and drop her on the curb there? Not sure what the "Good Samaritan" laws are in KY, but less likely to face charges trying to get her help than leaving her on a curb where she might die and by passers catch your plate number or you show up on some traffic cam.

But none-the-less, yeah, props for sharing your story as a warning to others. We are always learning in this hobby.

Stay safe!

When I was going through everything in mind (post mortem) I asked myself what would if took her to the hospital then I thought oh yeah cameras and license plate on camera.

If happens again with another chick I'll just have to see how handle it.

Thanks for the feedback.

[BigDukeCpa]

Should known called two different ads two different numbers yet same voice answers both times. Go to the incall very nice apartment complex girl answers door doesn't anything like any of the ads pics should of walked away but already had time invested and she was ok definitely not the 30 or 36 the ads say guessing closer to 40. This one was a TOFTT / the price was the only truthful thing about the ad.

[KaintuckMan]

Can you put it back minus the link? if not PM me the notes I added so I can re-post them.

I did you a favor by deleting the message. After seeing you post her real name with Facebook page I said to my self (WTF). You sure wouldn't want somebody posting your real name? Idk what A2 is going to do but I'm saying to everybody Don't Fucking post real names. Stay sober.

[Cephlapod Love]

Yeah maybe but it doesn't matter since that number goes to a person who is a figment of someones imagination. I never ever use my real number, I use throw away number including but not limited to Google Voice, numbers from VoIP. Ms (https://voip.ms/), Trac Fones, and various other apps and devices. The hardest ones to track are from https://voip.ms/ because the company and it's Telco media gateway and other VoIP switching network equipment is in another country called Montserrat. Google it and you'll see why it is a very good place to get numbers from.

Oh don't get this wrong. Having a monger phone and GV number is about keeping yourself private from the girls and the craziness of the world they live in.

If you think such a set up is going to keep you hidden from the Gubmint, you have another things coming. Buddy of mine who was a cop, now a shyster pointed out to me years ago, that the Gubmint has unlimited resources and IF they want to find you, the can & will find you! On a solicitation charge, LE ain't gunna spend the money to track you down, but if it involves a death or something that makes the news, then the incentive is to find you. So best to behave as a good citizen and recognize the protection one is getting is keep the SW world in one box and your life in another. Never the two shall meet!

Problem is that we use our burner phones or GV numbers to do things we don't think about that help make you trackable. Set up that GV number or Burner phone from a computer at home with a known IP addy? How about at work or a public library with a sign0in sheet? Download some apps that "need" access to the GPS section of the phone? Go buy anything, go on social media or anything else associated with your real identity with the burner? Pay cash regularly at the same location each month for the burner phone? I'm sure there are many ways I can't think of that end up making one track-able / traceable by a determined foe with unlimited resources.

Don't fool yourself that your good cleverness is ALL protective. When one lets them self get in hubris like that is usually when trouble finds you.

Anyway, stay safe and good luck!

[JohnnyTheWad]

Yeah maybe but it doesn't matter since that number goes to a person who is a figment of someones imagination. I never ever use my real number, I use throw away number including but not limited to Google Voice, numbers from VoIP. Ms (https://voip.ms/), Trac Fones, and various other apps and devices. The hardest ones to track are from https://voip.ms/ because the company and it's Telco media gateway and other VoIP switching network equipment is in another country called Montserrat. Google it and you'll see why it is a very good place to get numbers from.

I appreciate you pointing out a possible flaw in the plan but that is one area I am very good at after all I am a VoIP Engineer and I know where the cracks in the system are. The biggest crack that people do not know about is the text servers, you delete your text message from your phone but it remain on the servers for a minimum of 90 days and depending up how often they flush the servers it can take up to 365 days before the mandatory flush and delete takes place. So texts can be subpoenaed much later than voice, voice only last as long as it takes you to say it nobody maintains an archive of the RTP media streams they are just way too big to afford the servers for that. But messaging takes only a few KB.

I forgot there is one entity that can afford to record all RTP media streams that cross the open internet and that's the NSA.

Good info, thanks Bubba. I utilize the approach in the first sentence and half. My number comes back to nobody. Has never had my name connected to it in anyway. Not my real name anyway. So the NSA can go fornicate themselves LOL. Thanks again bro.

[Cephlapod Love]

Here the real bad part which is the lesson learned. If I have a chick in the car for a date and something happens to her my best and safest long term option is to set her on the curb in the grass and drive off never looking back never caring about her no matter what. Sad lesson but it is the lesson I learned.

Well if you were willing to drive her to your home and watch over her for 6 hours then you ought to be willing to drive her to the nearest Emergency Room or Firehouse and drop her on the curb there? Not sure what the "Good Samaritan" laws are in KY, but less likely to face charges trying to get her help than leaving her on a curb where she might die and by passers catch your plate number or you show up on some traffic cam.

But none-the-less, yeah, props for sharing your story as a warning to others. We are always learning in this hobby.

Stay safe!

[CashBubba]

And your phone number is the last one on her phone?

Yeah maybe but it doesn't matter since that number goes to a person who is a figment of someones imagination. I never ever use my real number, I use throw away number including but not limited to Google Voice, numbers from VoIP. Ms (https://voip.ms/), Trac Fones, and various other apps and devices. The hardest ones to track are from https://voip.ms/ because the company and it's Telco media gateway and other VoIP switching network equipment is in another country called Montserrat. Google it and you'll see why it is a very good place to get numbers from.

I appreciate you pointing out a possible flaw in the plan but that is one area I am very good at after all I am a VoIP Engineer and I know where the cracks in the system are. The biggest crack that people do not know about is the text servers, you delete your text message from your phone but it remain on the servers for a minimum of 90 days and depending up how often they flush the servers it can take up to 365 days before the mandatory flush and delete takes place. So texts can be subpoenaed much later than voice, voice only last as long as it takes you to say it nobody maintains an archive of the RTP media streams they are just way too big to afford the servers for that. But messaging takes only a few KB.

I forgot there is one entity that can afford to record all RTP media streams that cross the open internet and that's the NSA.

[WhenWhen]

Here the real bad part which is the lesson learned. If I have a chick in the car for a date and something happens to her my best and safest long term option is to set her on the curb in the grass and drive off never looking back never caring about her no matter what. Sad lesson but it is the lesson I learned.

And your phone number is the last one on her phone?