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  1. #1504
    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacDaddy  [View Original Post]
    10 to 15 years ago, a hobbyist devised the definition. It made sense to me.

    "When I first started hobbying 4 years ago, I was dismayed how the term "GFE" was bandied about. Some ladies that I dated based on reviews were far, far, from GFE. The reviewer, I decided afterwards, was simply using the term to say he had a nice time, which is fine.

    BUT, and always recognizing YMMV, I never had a GF that didn't DFK, or allow DATY, or give BBBJ. When these 3 acts come with enthusiastic FS, I define the experience as 100% GFE on the Saint Bart Scale. For every item missing, 10% is deducted. I usually don't like to be specific in a review about the acts I enjoyed. It can unnecessairily put a lady "on the spot" with the next hobbyist. "you did ABC for him, so why not me?" That's not fair to her.

    So, the SBS has just enough ambiguity to protect her, yet describe my experience. For example, I recently posted a review of Lisa from Eye Candy. She was 70% on the SBS. As I think all know, my ATF Badgirl is 100% on the SBS. Top's Penelope, with me, was 80%GFE, which reflected my YMMV as I've subsequently read others found her to be 90%GFE. IMO, this is usually all the detail required for the reader to get a good idea of the service level, subject to YMMV.

    Now, sometimes extras are available that go beyond 100%GFE, and might not be allowed by your civilian GF. The two most common examples are Greek and BBBJTC. Actual CIM. To me whether she spits or swallows, it doesn't matter. These are handled in a review with a " or "Plus" for each act. Missy, I've written and many have enjoyed, is famous for her Plus ending. So Missy's 100%GFE+ or 100%GFE Plus. The Plus Missy earns is undefined, but all get the picture. Aussie Amber takes it one Plus further, to what I think of as a PSE. She's 100%GFE++ or 100%GFE Plus, Plus. Again, I think one gets the picture, and doesn't need the actual details. I've had rare dates that actually earned as many as 4 Plusses. More were awarded for spending the night "on the house", and for allowing pictures (hear that Nurse? I suppose they could also be awarded for actions that don't interest me. Be&the, or golden showers, etc.
    Amen, brother!

  2. #1503

    Re Iliana90% GFE

    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacDaddy  [View Original Post]
    10 to 15 years ago, a hobbyist devised the definition. It made sense to me.

    "When I first started hobbying 4 years ago, I was dismayed how the term "GFE" was bandied about. Some ladies that I dated based on reviews were far, far, from GFE. The reviewer, I decided afterwards, was simply using the term to say he had a nice time, which is fine.

    BUT, and always recognizing YMMV, I never had a GF that didn't DFK, or allow DATY, or give BBBJ. When these 3 acts come with enthusiastic FS, I define the experience as 100% GFE on the Saint Bart Scale. For every item missing, 10% is deducted. I usually don't like to be specific in a review about the acts I enjoyed. It can unnecessairily put a lady "on the spot" with the next hobbyist. "you did ABC for him, so why not me?" That's not fair to her.

    So, the SBS has just enough ambiguity to protect her, yet describe my experience. For example, I recently posted a review of Lisa from Eye Candy. She was 70% on the SBS. As I think all know, my ATF Badgirl is 100% on the SBS. Top's Penelope, with me, was 80%GFE, which reflected my YMMV as I've subsequently read others found her to be 90%GFE. IMO, this is usually all the detail required for the reader to get a good idea of the service level, subject to YMMV.

    Now, sometimes extras are available that go beyond 100%GFE, and might not be allowed by your civilian GF. The two most common examples are Greek and BBBJTC. Actual CIM. To me whether she spits or swallows, it doesn't matter. These are handled in a review with a " or "Plus" for each act. Missy, I've written and many have enjoyed, is famous for her Plus ending. So Missy's 100%GFE+ or 100%GFE Plus. The Plus Missy earns is undefined, but all get the picture. Aussie Amber takes it one Plus further, to what I think of as a PSE. She's 100%GFE++ or 100%GFE Plus, Plus. Again, I think one gets the picture, and doesn't need the actual details. I've had rare dates that actually earned as many as 4 Plusses. More were awarded for spending the night "on the house", and for allowing pictures (hear that Nurse? I suppose they could also be awarded for actions that don't interest me. Be&the, or golden showers, etc.
    I have to admit you present a well thought out thesis on GFE and the use of + for extra services I assume you also consider willingness to bring second provider and "really bi" I'm sure they also count as ++.

    Using the standard what a real girlfriend may actually do there most likely would be no BJ covered or bareback at all.

    The bottom line with providers like iliana if they provide an enthusiastic sensual session and have erotic skills that make me want to come back for more that is all that matters maybe she could not be rated a 10 by the standards of the other site or 100% GFE but the sum total of performance is in the 8 or 9 range for sure and a 90% of anything is a "A" rating. Based on that I consider her a superior provider.

    I look foward to your definition of pse.

  3. #1502

    GFE Definition (long)

    10 to 15 years ago, a hobbyist devised the definition. It made sense to me.

    "When I first started hobbying 4 years ago, I was dismayed how the term "GFE" was bandied about. Some ladies that I dated based on reviews were far, far, from GFE. The reviewer, I decided afterwards, was simply using the term to say he had a nice time, which is fine.

    BUT, and always recognizing YMMV, I never had a GF that didn't DFK, or allow DATY, or give BBBJ. When these 3 acts come with enthusiastic FS, I define the experience as 100% GFE on the Saint Bart Scale. For every item missing, 10% is deducted. I usually don't like to be specific in a review about the acts I enjoyed. It can unnecessairily put a lady "on the spot" with the next hobbyist. "you did ABC for him, so why not me?" That's not fair to her.

    So, the SBS has just enough ambiguity to protect her, yet describe my experience. For example, I recently posted a review of Lisa from Eye Candy. She was 70% on the SBS. As I think all know, my ATF Badgirl is 100% on the SBS. Top's Penelope, with me, was 80%GFE, which reflected my YMMV as I've subsequently read others found her to be 90%GFE. IMO, this is usually all the detail required for the reader to get a good idea of the service level, subject to YMMV.

    Now, sometimes extras are available that go beyond 100%GFE, and might not be allowed by your civilian GF. The two most common examples are Greek and BBBJTC. Actual CIM. To me whether she spits or swallows, it doesn't matter. These are handled in a review with a " or "Plus" for each act. Missy, I've written and many have enjoyed, is famous for her Plus ending. So Missy's 100%GFE+ or 100%GFE Plus. The Plus Missy earns is undefined, but all get the picture. Aussie Amber takes it one Plus further, to what I think of as a PSE. She's 100%GFE++ or 100%GFE Plus, Plus. Again, I think one gets the picture, and doesn't need the actual details. I've had rare dates that actually earned as many as 4 Plusses. More were awarded for spending the night "on the house", and for allowing pictures (hear that Nurse? I suppose they could also be awarded for actions that don't interest me. Be&the, or golden showers, etc.

  4. #1501

    Gfe

    Quote Originally Posted by CoralSands  [View Original Post]
    I do not recall ever using the term GFE in my posts.

    In fact you referred to as Iliana as 90% GFE what ever that means.

    I prefer to read reviews to see what to expect than rely on ambiguous term GFE.
    Sorry. My post was not directed at you. (Wrong click tagged on to yours).

    Someone else asked if Iliana was GFE.

  5. #1500

    Iliana GFE

    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacDaddy  [View Original Post]
    Any provider doing CBJ is NOT a GFE.

    Guys liking CBJ is ok, but any provider claiming to be GFE with CBJ is only kidding herself. Providers using that term say they are GFE to attract clients.

    I, and I think most guys, prefer BBBJ and CBJ is a show-stopper. No malice, just my 2 cents.
    I do not recall ever using the term GFE in my posts.

    In fact you referred to as Iliana as 90% GFE what ever that means.

    I prefer to read reviews to see what to expect than rely on ambiguous term GFE.

  6. #1499

    GFE? Pse?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacDaddy  [View Original Post]
    Any provider doing CBJ is NOT a GFE.

    Guys liking CBJ is ok, but any provider claiming to be GFE with CBJ is only kidding herself. Providers using that term say they are GFE to attract clients.

    I, and I think most guys, prefer BBBJ and CBJ is a show-stopper. No malice, just my 2 cents.
    I gave read many discussion as to what is GFE.

    I concede there are many who define GFE as BBBJ with no other explanation. And that's fine. What about cum / swallow?

    I ask what do you call a provider that will suck dick bare back but not kiss or fiv or daty?

    I have read often from providers that define GFE as the experience one mite have with a new girlfriend or a lover they have not seen for a long time. Not the ho who grabs the donation counts it in front of you starts the egg timer to ring when the time is up give a quick BBBJ to get hard and then tells you can only go doggie and rushes you out of there in half the time you paid for. What do we call that? Not GFE I hope.

    By that standard what is pse is it just BBFS?

    I do not expect to ever see a exact definition of either term.

    I think there are more than two categories of escort but if I were to limit to two kinds it would be good and bad.

    We are painfully aware that so many escorts post borrowed pictures to attract attention.

    That is why the presence of review sites that give the details of the type of encounter to expect and that pictures are accurate are more important than any ad banner or general term.

    Sounds a lot like the definition of ponorgraphy can't define it but I know it when I see it.

  7. #1498

    Gfe

    Quote Originally Posted by CoralSands  [View Original Post]
    My experience with Iliana much the same nice girl nice skills usually outcalls so if you catch her on a incall good deal.
    Any provider doing CBJ is NOT a GFE.

    Guys liking CBJ is ok, but any provider claiming to be GFE with CBJ is only kidding herself. Providers using that term say they are GFE to attract clients.

    I, and I think most guys, prefer BBBJ and CBJ is a show-stopper. No malice, just my 2 cents.

  8. #1497

    Re iliana

    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacDaddy  [View Original Post]
    She has oThER reviews and when I saw her for an hour, more than a year ago, she was about 90% GFE. No real liplock kissing and CBJ.

    Her current rates are 300/ hr, 250/ hhr. Steep for me with no BBBJ and it's not a knock against her. Her pics are real and she is a sweet person.
    My experience with Iliana much the same nice girl nice skills usually outcalls so if you catch her on a incall good deal.

  9. #1496

    Iliana

    Quote Originally Posted by MightySpearsman  [View Original Post]
    Iliana has an ad on Backpage and it's ok to mention that here, in fact there's a board here on USA SG for reviewing Backpage ladies (also one for Craigslist ladies).

    I realize that you may not want to post every last intimate detail, but how about some general info, such as:

    Are the photos in her BP ad real? And current?

    Does she appear to be 27 years old (the age listed on BP), or older?

    How much time did you spend with her. A quickie? A half-hour? Full hour? Was she a clock-watcher?

    Did you pay the rates listed on her web site? Or did she try to upsell you or beg for a tip?

    Was she GFE? PSE?

    Thanks in advance for responding to at least a few of the above questions.
    Sorry I'm relatively a newbie.

    Will post on BP page with link later.

    In a nutshell pics real accurate and recent would be surprised if over 30.

    No BBBJ CBJ only.

    Eager to please unrushed up up sell very GFE.

    She can also do dirty talk strap on play and be a dom so she says I'm more a fk CBJ cfs daty cfs type myself.

    Fun time.

    300 hr.

  10. #1495

    Iliana

    Quote Originally Posted by MightySpearsman  [View Original Post]
    snip

    Was she GFE? PSE?
    She has oThER reviews and when I saw her for an hour, more than a year ago, she was about 90% GFE. No real liplock kissing and CBJ.

    Her current rates are 300/ hr, 250/ hhr. Steep for me with no BBBJ and it's not a knock against her. Her pics are real and she is a sweet person.

  11. #1494
    Quote Originally Posted by Driller523  [View Original Post]
    Saw Ilianas ad on the oThER site.

    Upscale location south of Hartford.

    Sweet cool chick.

    Fun time everything covered.

    Definite repeat.

    She days here all week can't wait to pay day.
    Iliana has an ad on Backpage and it's ok to mention that here, in fact there's a board here on USA SG for reviewing Backpage ladies (also one for Craigslist ladies).

    I realize that you may not want to post every last intimate detail, but how about some general info, such as:

    Are the photos in her BP ad real? And current?

    Does she appear to be 27 years old (the age listed on BP), or older?

    How much time did you spend with her. A quickie? A half-hour? Full hour? Was she a clock-watcher?

    Did you pay the rates listed on her web site? Or did she try to upsell you or beg for a tip?

    Was she GFE? PSE?

    Thanks in advance for responding to at least a few of the above questions.

  12. #1493

    Iliana incall

    Saw Ilianas ad on the oThER site.

    Upscale location south of Hartford.

    Sweet cool chick.

    Fun time everything covered.

    Definite repeat.

    She days here all week can't wait to pay day.

  13. #1492

    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous95  [View Original Post]
    Looking intel on Isabella or Diamond Ladare. She's been posting on eros locally for a bit, but a Google search on her number nets no reviews. She claims to be an ex dancer. Her photos on CV actually shown her face. Anyone seen this girl?
    Saw her a few years ago under the LaDare name. She was on Eros back then and based in the New Haven shoreline area.

    Totally GFE.

    She took a break of some sort and came back as Isabella this past Fall.

    BMD.

  14. #1491

    Isabella or Diamond Ladare

    Looking intel on Isabella or Diamond Ladare. She's been posting on eros locally for a bit, but a Google search on her number nets no reviews. She claims to be an ex dancer. Her photos on CV actually shown her face. Anyone seen this girl?

  15. #1490

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks6  [View Original Post]
    http://hartford.backpage.com/FemaleE...le-now/9274430 The same girl, 100 lbs ago. Filty room, said 'that time of month' despite promising GFE on phone. A mess. Having bad luck lately in Hartford. Trying to make sure my fellow enthusiasts don't have same. If you've had better luck w anyone, please mail me. Be safe.
    I never make an attempt with an advertiser that won't even put a name for herself in her ad. Thats just an arrogant way of saying "hey suckers, call 'm e". Anyway, bro, been there. Thanks for the heads up. You've helped a lot of people here from wastin their time.

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