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  1. #5913

    A Little Wary

    I saw this ad on Saturday and replied via e-mail. She said she was available this Friday and Saturday. We agreed on Friday, and she said she would send me her address on Friday morning. Now I am a little suspicious, given there is no phone number and all of our communication has been through e-mail. Also, this her only ad posted on BP and her prices seem a little out of whack. What do you guys think? My antenna is up and I think this is something to avoid. I have her e-mail address, you can pm me for it if think you have any info. Thanks and be careful out there.

    http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs...sages/16166590

  2. #5912
    I guess I figure that when there is no equity, no appreciation, that is when I figure they are playing me for a fool. So no. For them, no respect, no dollars.

    Quote Originally Posted by NotDave  [View Original Post]
    I had that attitude of frickin' Lap Dog and was overly helpful. It was taken as a sign of weakness and I was treated horribly. Certainly, the initial response may have been positive but in every case things deteriorated quickly and I was taken advantage of, abused and cheated.

    Now, I do nothing for them. Why? Because when I help them there is no equity, no appreciation.

    The last girl I handed an extra 60 to told me to call her again and she only wanted 100 instead of 160, but then she never answered my calls and that is just the way it is. They feel entitled. They are already in too much control but that's the way it is.

    And we've all been overly generous and now places like the hills of Arkansas where they should be 40 and 100 available are all now 200 to 250 for a half an hour!

    What's more many times I should have walked because there was gross representation and I should have been the one getting compensated because that was a woman I would never notice or look at in the wild.

    These transactions only work in one direction and they are becoming more screw jobs by but cases every day.

    Don't feed the animals too well. You might just get bitten.

    I no longer offer to write reviews because they always more upscale a bit and no longer have time for me. I say let 'them sit and wait and don't help them.

    Certainly treat them with respect and don't abuse them but remember who works for whom and keep them in their place. Otherwise, we are creating monsters.

  3. #5911
    Quote Originally Posted by STLguy1980  [View Original Post]
    I am sure it will come the shock of no one, except Recap, that Erica pulled ANOTHER NCNS last night. Texted her a few days ago to set it up and she kept in great contact making sure we were still on. Texted her before I left telling her I was on the way for our date and she asked to push it back by 15 minutes or so.

    I told her it was no problem as long as she didn't cancel and she promised not to. Got to the hotel and texted her. Nothing. Called her. Nothing. Left a message. Nothing.

    It is now Saturday morning and I have not even seen an attempted apology message. For those who remember how bad Summer was at scheduling, she at least apologized for it and owned up to it. Anyway, the only way she is going to stop doing this is if people stop calling her and her business dries up.
    I'm ashamed to admit this but I had 3 different appointments with this girl over a 2 week period. I would drive across the city to what ever hotel she was at and each time I get there, no answer. At first I thought maybe it was me so I started calling from different numbers.

    I just concluded that ultimately, she's a kid. A kid that's playing games. Yeah, I would have went a couple of times per week to bang her sexy 18 year old Ass until I got tired of her but I'm done.

  4. #5910

    Don't Feed the Animals

    I had that attitude of frickin' Lap Dog and was overly helpful. It was taken as a sign of weakness and I was treated horribly. Certainly, the initial response may have been positive but in every case things deteriorated quickly and I was taken advantage of, abused and cheated.

    Now, I do nothing for them. Why? Because when I help them there is no equity, no appreciation.

    The last girl I handed an extra 60 to told me to call her again and she only wanted 100 instead of 160, but then she never answered my calls and that is just the way it is. They feel entitled. They are already in too much control but that's the way it is.

    And we've all been overly generous and now places like the hills of Arkansas where they should be 40 and 100 available are all now 200 to 250 for a half an hour!

    What's more many times I should have walked because there was gross representation and I should have been the one getting compensated because that was a woman I would never notice or look at in the wild.

    These transactions only work in one direction and they are becoming more screw jobs by but cases every day.

    Don't feed the animals too well. You might just get bitten.

    I no longer offer to write reviews because they always more upscale a bit and no longer have time for me. I say let 'them sit and wait and don't help them.

    Certainly treat them with respect and don't abuse them but remember who works for whom and keep them in their place. Otherwise, we are creating monsters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stlhustla  [View Original Post]
    A few years back on this board, there seemed to be a running theme of "don't spoil a ho". Repeatedly hobbyists were slammed for over-paying, and for tipping. The idea was that if you paid them well and treated them right it would make the charge more and make it tough on all of us.

    I never liked that idea. I have a soft spot for the girls, their life is a lot tougher than mine. A little extra cash means a lot more to them than it does to me. If a girl does a good job and mainly, if she does not try to play me for a fool, I treat them with great respect both on a friendly and financial level.

    But even with the best of them, I understand the difference between the paid temporary relationship we have and any real depth of emotion or physical response they may seem to have. I am glad when they appear to have a good time, it really puts a damper on it if she laid there like a fish. But I have no illusions that "she is really into it" or "she enjoyed it as much as I did. " Think of the lengths we go for a good "pop". If they enjoyed it as much as us, OUR phones would be blowing up and we would be lining our pockets with 20's.

    When I read these reviews, sometimes I have to chuckle. I really am not interested in a review of how good you think you fucked her, no matter how good you think you are, I am not going to pay you for your services. And neither will she. I appreciate information regarding no shows, false advertising and smelly, grimy boxes and apartments. If a review sounds like a commercial or a hobbyist boasting on his Casanova ways I pretty much disregard the review and seek out experiences from more well-grounded realistic hobbyists.

    So my philosophy is to spoil the girls, give them cash and gifts, pay them complements, treat them with respect, I think they deserve it and it will make my time with them a lot more enjoyable. But when I am on this board, I tell it like it is, give the info on the girl, not on me. Really sick of hearing how hard of a time they had with your massive johnsons and how well you rocked their worlds.

    Lets share the information that is useful and helps us support the girls who really earn both the money and the respect.

  5. #5909
    Not trying to bust your chops or anything Recap but, are you posting from some 1870's teletype machine? Your posts have more periods than the end of the month in a french girls' boarding school. Just curious as it has always made me wonder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Recapacitar  [View Original Post]
    I met Bella today and Wow! This Puerto Rican princess is simply amazing.

    To make a long story short. Communication was very easy with her. I called, set up the appt, she contacted me after she got out the shower and I headed up to her room.

    She was in an upscale hotel and when I knocked on the door she greeted me with a big smile. I gave her the donation. She undressed. I undressed and we both got in bed.

    She stood up on her knees in the bed and so did I. We were face to face and I could not resist kissing her. As we were kissing she grabbed my schlong and start straddling it. It felt so.

    Good while we were kissing. She then bent down and gave me and awesome BBBJ. It was just what the doctor ordered because I was so freakin horny.

    After sucking my "man of war" for a while, I then laid down and put the cover on and sucked it a little more. She then asked what I wanted to start with and went straight for.

    RECAP STYLE. I first sucked her breasts a little and then she grabbed my "Peter" and put the head of my German Solder in her juice box. Her puss was so amazingly tight as I started to work my way in! It felt like virgin puss. The sign of a good lay.

    And even for a tall girl, she is very flexible. She took in every inch of my rod like a true champ and really appeared to have enjoyed it.

    After RECAP Style, we changed positions to Doggie. I had to pound that sweet rump of hers just so I could see the tattoo of Miss Kitty dance as I pounded into her rear.

    After a while of doggie, I then switched to Jockey. I stuck my wang back into her tight puss and she grabbed the sheet tightly. I think she really loved Jockey and so did I. She then.

    Lifted her ass as I made sweet passionate love to her puss with every thrust. As I laid on her back pumping into her sweetly, I would also grab her rear cheek and pull it to the side so.

    I could get into her deeper. And in the process she turned her head to the side so that I could kiss her.

    After a heavy workout, I finally popped and it felt so good. My mind was finally clear and my wanker was free from all it's pressure.

    There's nothing like getting some "heritage. " It feels so good.

  6. #5908
    Quote Originally Posted by Stlhustla  [View Original Post]
    Thanks. That's good info. How close to the photos she posted is she?
    Her pictures are pretty accurate.

  7. #5907
    Quote Originally Posted by STLguy1980  [View Original Post]
    Here is the funny part about this whole discussion. If you research her reviews there are very limited reviews on her. The only two with even a semblance of credibility are Recap (who I am pretty sure thinks she is his gf based on the reviews and white knighting) and a guy out of KC who has reviews all over the midwest but no other ones in St Louis except the two for Erica.

    The other guys on the other site, in the locked thread, have so few posts I am not sure they can be trusted.

    Anyway, I think she should be ignored and let the same two guys try to supply her bf and her's habit from here on out.
    What? She's not my girlfriend? LOL. I beg to differ. LOL. They.

    All are my girlfriends. .

    What do you mean the other guys on the other threads can't be trusted? There are enough trusted guys here that said sometimes she's a NCNS so perhaps those other guys CAN be trusted. LOL.

    Erica is a cool chick to me and I suspect others. I personally don't have a problem with her. I love the sex. I love her attitude.

    And I like how she makes me feel. Yes, she is one of my favorites, but then I see a lot of other girls too.

    With any girl, if you're spending your money on them and they.

    Don't treat you the way you want to be treated, then take your.

    Cash and move on. You'll find 1, 2, 3 or more that will.

  8. #5906
    Quote Originally Posted by STLguy1980  [View Original Post]
    Good god Recap, you better go feed your horse. He is going to be tired carrying around his fearless white knight all week.

    Also, hard returns are bad in a post on this site. Unless you were writing a poem then, bravo.
    Now that is funny. Boom.

  9. #5905

    Erica review

    Thanks. That's good info. How close to the photos she posted is she?

    Quote Originally Posted by BadBoy2014  [View Original Post]
    I have seen her few weeks ago. She is a nice girl, but she wasnt all that. I saw her late at night, that's probably why she didn't cancel our appointment. She is a cute girl, but I think there are better choices out there. I probably won't repeat.

  10. #5904

    A little bit of realism.

    A few years back on this board, there seemed to be a running theme of "don't spoil a ho". Repeatedly hobbyists were slammed for over-paying, and for tipping. The idea was that if you paid them well and treated them right it would make the charge more and make it tough on all of us.

    I never liked that idea. I have a soft spot for the girls, their life is a lot tougher than mine. A little extra cash means a lot more to them than it does to me. If a girl does a good job and mainly, if she does not try to play me for a fool, I treat them with great respect both on a friendly and financial level.

    But even with the best of them, I understand the difference between the paid temporary relationship we have and any real depth of emotion or physical response they may seem to have. I am glad when they appear to have a good time, it really puts a damper on it if she laid there like a fish. But I have no illusions that "she is really into it" or "she enjoyed it as much as I did. " Think of the lengths we go for a good "pop". If they enjoyed it as much as us, OUR phones would be blowing up and we would be lining our pockets with 20's.

    When I read these reviews, sometimes I have to chuckle. I really am not interested in a review of how good you think you fucked her, no matter how good you think you are, I am not going to pay you for your services. And neither will she. I appreciate information regarding no shows, false advertising and smelly, grimy boxes and apartments. If a review sounds like a commercial or a hobbyist boasting on his Casanova ways I pretty much disregard the review and seek out experiences from more well-grounded realistic hobbyists.

    So my philosophy is to spoil the girls, give them cash and gifts, pay them complements, treat them with respect, I think they deserve it and it will make my time with them a lot more enjoyable. But when I am on this board, I tell it like it is, give the info on the girl, not on me. Really sick of hearing how hard of a time they had with your massive johnsons and how well you rocked their worlds.

    Lets share the information that is useful and helps us support the girls who really earn both the money and the respect.

  11. #5903

    Erica

    I have seen her few weeks ago. She is a nice girl, but she wasnt all that. I saw her late at night, that's probably why she didn't cancel our appointment. She is a cute girl, but I think there are better choices out there. I probably won't repeat.

  12. #5902

    Erica

    Quote Originally Posted by STLguy1980  [View Original Post]
    Here is the funny part about this whole discussion. If you research her reviews there are very limited reviews on her. The only two with even a semblance of credibility are Recap (who I am pretty sure thinks she is his gf based on the reviews and white knighting) and a guy out of KC who has reviews all over the midwest but no other ones in St Louis except the two for Erica.

    The other guys on the other site, in the locked thread, have so few posts I am not sure they can be trusted.

    Anyway, I think she should be ignored and let the same two guys try to supply her bf and her's habit from here on out.
    Amen to that!

  13. #5901
    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDurden01  [View Original Post]
    To me a NCNS is a pretty big deal. My time means something. If someone does it once I am done with them. These girls are asking for a decent amount of money for a fairly short amount of time. The least they can do is show up or call to cancel beforehand.

    I wish more people stuck to the one and done with the NCNS gals. If so it would certainly happen a hell of a lot less. Unfortunately people still see them which just enables such behavior.

    I mean really they can't pick up the phone for 1 minute to call and cancel.
    Here is the funny part about this whole discussion. If you research her reviews there are very limited reviews on her. The only two with even a semblance of credibility are Recap (who I am pretty sure thinks she is his gf based on the reviews and white knighting) and a guy out of KC who has reviews all over the midwest but no other ones in St Louis except the two for Erica.

    The other guys on the other site, in the locked thread, have so few posts I am not sure they can be trusted.

    Anyway, I think she should be ignored and let the same two guys try to supply her bf and her's habit from here on out.

  14. #5900

    Ncns

    Quote Originally Posted by Recapacitar  [View Original Post]
    Over 85% of the providers have that issue. Some are worse than.

    Others. A couple of years ago I finally started to see how bad it.

    Really was just from the sheer amount of girls I was seeing. Unfortunately, this is part of the dark side of the hobby that's unavoidable.

    Erica is a popular chick that guys want to see regardless. If.

    She wasn't, these negative posts wouldn't keep coming up about NCNS when it's been documented on all 3 boards that.

    It happens. You have to understand going into the game that.

    This is a possibility. One of my favorite girls to this date, did a.

    NCNS to me the first time. Instead of getting into a hissy fit about it, I tried again. The sex was amazing and I remained friends with this chick even though she periodically would do.

    The same stuff. Some girls have a lot of crap going on in their.

    Lives so you either deal with it or you don't. I chose to deal with it. My choice. Regardless of.

    The NCNS, she was worth it to me. I'm sure many mongers have similar stories.

    Over the years, I've met several popular girls that NCNS and most.

    Have done it at least once. It's just the nature of the hobby.

    There are very few perfect situations with providers or with women in general. But to meet the ones you want to see, always.

    Be prepared for the unforseen. It goes with territory. And remember, they didn't grow up dreaming to sell their body for.

    Money. Understanding this, makes my approach to the hobby.

    A little different.
    To me a NCNS is a pretty big deal. My time means something. If someone does it once I am done with them. These girls are asking for a decent amount of money for a fairly short amount of time. The least they can do is show up or call to cancel beforehand.

    I wish more people stuck to the one and done with the NCNS gals. If so it would certainly happen a hell of a lot less. Unfortunately people still see them which just enables such behavior.

    I mean really they can't pick up the phone for 1 minute to call and cancel.

  15. #5899
    Quote Originally Posted by STLguy1980  [View Original Post]
    Good god Recap, you better go feed your horse. He is going to be tired carrying around his fearless white knight all week.

    Also, hard returns are bad in a post on this site. Unless you were writing a poem then, bravo.
    I'm not sure if I agree with you on this. I don't think recap is defending their actions, just rationalizing who and what we deal with in this game.

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