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Dr Manhattan
05-09-21, 00:55
Anyone ever take the deep dive with this one? 400 is a steep price for a bodyrub, so I'm going to assume it's a polite way of advertising upscale FS.

If that's "mature," I'd pay just to see if she stacks up in person.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/209789

Moejoo
05-09-21, 08:22
Anyone ever take the deep dive with this one? 400 is a steep price for a bodyrub, so I'm going to assume it's a polite way of advertising upscale FS.

If that's "mature," I'd pay just to see if she stacks up in person.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/209789\All pictures in the same dress, that figure, tan, and face. That woman is quite a stunner but she will not be the one knocking at your door.

MistralRider79
05-10-21, 14:56
Anyone know what's going on with that site? Seems to not be working right pulling up ads from other cities / States, and also pictures of people with license selfies? Just wondering if its time to look elsewhere. https://sumosear.ch/images/tags/chicago-il/female-escorts.

LoveSmallPerky
05-11-21, 09:45
Three girls to one guy? Or three guys to one girl?A 3 some has 3 people, not 4. So mit would be 2 girls /1 guy or 2 guys /1 girl.

JustToPlay70
05-11-21, 12:48
Been researching Ms Sensual. I read that she is in an apartment in Des Plaines now. Is that where you saw her? Do you think it is worth the 1.6 she advertised?

Thanks for your help.


I assume you mean her?

https://chicago.rubratings.com/198301

I saw her a month ago. She's real. And yes, she took some of my info but I haven't been blackmailed yet. I'm always anxious about doing that, and maybe I should be more guarded. But she seems legit. Pics are more or less accurate, though she seems a bit more voluptuous in person than the pics suggest.

For the first session, don't expect anything more than an insanely awesome FBSM with the standard HE. I think she's a licensed MT, so if nothing else you will definitely feel good afterward. The HE was crazy good, too. She used techniques I'd never seen before.

Anyway, I felt safe enough visiting her, and she told me about other services she offered afterward. If you're interested in things beyond FBSM, I'm pretty sure she provides whatever it is, because she does offer quite a bit after the first session. I plan to see her again, and that's really all I can say about that. Good luck in whatever you decide to do!

Ron M
05-11-21, 17:17
A 3 some has 3 people, not 4. So mit would be 2 girls /1 guy or 2 guys /1 girl.Just asking for clarification. Thanks.

Jc2490
05-12-21, 01:25
Anyone know what's going on with that site? Seems to not be working right pulling up ads from other cities / States, and also pictures of people with license selfies? Just wondering if its time to look elsewhere. https://sumosear.ch/images/tags/chicago-il/female-escorts.It's doing the exact same thing on my computer, plus 90% of the time, if you enter a number, it gives me a bad gateway message.

George Stark
05-12-21, 14:18
It's doing the exact same thing on my computer, plus 90% of the time, if you enter a number, it gives me a bad gateway message.Seems ok to me. I saw one ad that was just a pic of a girl's identification, with gibberish for wording. Revenge post? Whi knows?

Hobby Lover
05-13-21, 17:26
When I saw her it was at a notel. Very good massage and she takes care of setup so its nice. Room dark with a soft red light etc.

I'd guess she is 45-50. Good massage. I may take her up on more. Not sure. I tend to like variety and bouncing around though.


Been researching Ms Sensual. I read that she is in an apartment in Des Plaines now. Is that where you saw her? Do you think it is worth the 1.6 she advertised?

Thanks for your help.

TheWimp
05-13-21, 17:42
Been researching Ms Sensual. I read that she is in an apartment in Des Plaines now. Is that where you saw her? Do you think it is worth the 1.6 she advertised?

Thanks for your help.I've seen her for outcall about 2 years ago. She is short, heavy. She wore black jeans and black t shirt. She took control of my session by closing the door of my bedroom yet we were alone. I was not attracted to her at all. She provided an ok massage and standard ending. If she would offer more I would not accept. I don't recommend her at all.

ElGoloso
05-16-21, 12:47
Just had a early bird session with a young Latina provider this morning in the Cicero area. She's tiny and fun. I met her through Twitter and verified through kik. She's a sexy little thing and enjoys what she does. If you want info inbox me.

Al Melrose
05-17-21, 02:49
Just had a early bird session with a young Latina provider this morning in the Cicero area. She's tiny and fun. I met her through Twitter and verified through kik. She's a sexy little thing and enjoys what she does. If you want info inbox me.Inbox is full.

CrewMan7
05-17-21, 08:37
Just had a early bird session with a young Latina provider this morning in the Cicero area. She's tiny and fun. I met her through Twitter and verified through kik. She's a sexy little thing and enjoys what she does. If you want info inbox me.Your inbox is full.

ElGoloso
05-17-21, 09:02
Inbox is full.Inbox empty.

ElJefe69
05-17-21, 10:12
Just had a early bird session with a young Latina provider this morning in the Cicero area. She's tiny and fun. I met her through Twitter and verified through kik. She's a sexy little thing and enjoys what she does. If you want info inbox me.I'll take her number.

Dddubs2
05-17-21, 12:17
Just had a early bird session with a young Latina provider this morning in the Cicero area. She's tiny and fun. I met her through Twitter and verified through kik. She's a sexy little thing and enjoys what she does. If you want info inbox me.Would like info if you don't mind.

YDiner14
05-17-21, 12:41
I use a texting app for discretion like many of us do. Sometimes I don't use it enough so I lose the # and need to get another one. I have a newer number that I've only been using a few weeks now. Recently I had some "free" time coming up so I researched who I wanted to try and see using my normal vetting routine, reading reviews, etc. I came up with a list of 5 or 6 girls and only contacted ladies with same day listings. Some of them I had seen before. To my surprise no one was responding. Weird, ok, sometimes you don't hear from a couple of them but all of them? Or they will respond and say they are booked, etc. But this was all crickets. They just posted they were available within a couple hours ago. So I went to plan B because the little guy was now taking over thinking. Bingo, I hear from plan b and she asks for a picture. I say hell no. She replies with a screen shot from some app called Mr. Number with several negative reviews of the phone number I am currently using. Wow, this was eye opening for me. I told her I understand but that is not me and I just got the number. No reply from her so I move on and hit the old stand by X. So two things here. I changed the number but how do I know if I have another crappy number? And for all mongers out there acting like asses to these ladies, you are not only possibly screwing things up for yourself but for us good guys! Be nice!

AssMann82
05-17-21, 14:15
To the girls.

If you say you're a freak you can't follow it up with a dozen NOs. Same with Nasty, you can't be nasty and so No Anal.

I know they aren't reading this just had to get it off my chest.

AngelBravo
05-17-21, 15:05
Just had a early bird session with a young Latina provider this morning in the Cicero area. She's tiny and fun. I met her through Twitter and verified through kik. She's a sexy little thing and enjoys what she does. If you want info inbox me.Sent as well, if your Inbox is full just send me a PM or post the info; at this point if she's looking for work just make a post about it otherwise you'll be drowned in messages.

ChgoGuySouth
05-17-21, 21:41
Any info on what LEO has to put in an ad before it can be considered entrapment? I avoid any ad that describes actual sexual services. But can LEO say just massage in the ad, then get you at the location they are setting up the sting?

Chicago41
05-17-21, 21:48
Any info on what LEO has to put in an ad before it can be considered entrapment? I avoid any ad that describes actual sexual services. But can LEO say just massage in the ad, then get you at the location they are setting up the sting?Entrapment doesn't exist in Cook County. You might as well try to get off by saying you were under mind control by a magician. They're all activists trying to save hookers because "they're all victims of trafficking".

Wirelessone
05-17-21, 21:53
Any info on what LEO has to put in an ad before it can be considered entrapment? I avoid any ad that describes actual sexual services. But can LEO say just massage in the ad, then get you at the location they are setting up the sting?The crime is you showing up after making an appointment and offering to pay for a sex act. The only right after you have been handcuffed is the right to remain silent so do so, shut up. LEO's going to seize your car no matter what so now if you're married or used the girlfriends car, try explaining that to either one of them. The courts give LEO a wide berth before entrapment enters into the picture.

There not going to let you go if you 'just tell what's happening' so again shut up. I once responded to an ad several years ago off Backpage, the girl called me told me several explicit sex acts should perform and the cost, I told her oh ok, let me call you back in ten minutes. Of course I did not because with that explicitness of detail I felt it was a LEO set up. I've never called another ad since then, plus man oh man I see some of the trolls you guys ask info about and I think, you want to pay to see that, unbelievable.

By the way, shut your mouth if you get busted.

DWaits
05-18-21, 01:10
I don't remember reading any reports from mongers who post here who have been busted. I assume that long-time hobbyists have avoided getting busted because (A) the big head usually wins out and (B) LEO really isn't that active compared to other stuff that keeps them busy. But I think the car towing bit helps make another argument for parking a couple blocks from the locale. I would assume LEO isn't parking two blocks away. If they are watching; they are out front. So walking up to the spot could be identified as walking from an uber or having taken a bus or the L. But that's just speculation on my part.

Also, anyone know the percentage of stings that happen at apartments versus motels / hotels? Seems like most of the media reports are the latter.

Jayp80
05-18-21, 04:02
Any info on what LEO has to put in an ad before it can be considered entrapment? I avoid any ad that describes actual sexual services. But can LEO say just massage in the ad, then get you at the location they are setting up the sting?If I went to angieslist booked a maid and in the middle of her cleaning she says I'll give you a BJ for a extra $100 that would be entrapment because my intent wasn't to pay for sex. How do you argue you went to stg, mega personals, bigtitmidgets.com or asiansluts.com . But your intent wasn't to pay for sexual activities? Does the content of the ad really matter?

Chicago41
05-18-21, 10:15
By the way, shut your mouth if you get busted.The only things someone should be saying are "I'm exercising my right to remain silent" and "I want my lawyer". Repeat those until the lawyer is there and then let the lawyer do all of the talking.

Fit312
05-18-21, 10:49
Also, anyone know the percentage of stings that happen at apartments versus motels / hotels? Seems like most of the media reports are the latter.I haven't heard of any customers getting busted in Chicago for either going to a massage parlor or an Asian apartment. A fair number of the girls who work at those places have been busted, a couple of them twice. I got busted with a pound of pot as a kid and the cops claimed that I could walk if I ratted out my dealer. I wouldn't do it anyway, but keep in mind that it's often illegal to lie to the authorities (obstruction of justice, etc.), but it's often legal for them to lie to you. I am not a lawyer, but this video is evergreen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

ElGoloso
05-18-21, 11:13
Ok so after sharing her info and talking it over with her. I need the mongers that I have shared info with to contact me again. I got her number and her permission to share. From my end I need only seniors to contact me. Regulars must have something to trade with if not you will be ignored.

LoveSmallPerky
05-18-21, 12:00
Any info on what LEO has to put in an ad before it can be considered entrapment? I avoid any ad that describes actual sexual services. But can LEO say just massage in the ad, then get you at the location they are setting up the sting?It is LEO approaching / offering you something illegal when there is no history of you doing that act before. Think back with the DeLorean drug deal, The DEA informant approached Delorean knowing he needed investors to save his company and arranged the deal knowing that he did not agree to anything illegal. When he realized it might be drugs and tried to cancel the Informant threatened his daughters life. Records, notes and recordings were manipulated, destroyed to hide that he did not want anything illegal.

Easy way to understand is that they place the ad for suggestive sexual services and you replied. They did not approach / call you asking you visit so it was all on you. NO Entrapment. If you have a history / record of seeing escorts the Entrapment "excuse" will not work because you have participated, busted / warned in the past.

It may not seem fair that you can't lie to them but they can lie and say anything to you to trip you up BUT that is where your right to remain silent comes in play. A good thing to remember, once you invoke your right to remain silent / request a lawyer, do not say anything else. They will try the older trick to just chat with you and if you reply they can try to use that as you decided to waive your right to remain silent and slowly steer you to what they want. Anything you say can be used and what your lawyer says can not.

Wenger
05-20-21, 08:15
Today is Chinese Valentines day, or I Love You day. Getting ready for my phone to blow up with miss you requests from the spa's I haven't been to lately.

-w.

ElJefe69
05-20-21, 09:23
Ok so after sharing her info and talking it over with her. I need the mongers that I have shared info with to contact me again. I got her number and her permission to share. From my end I need only seniors to contact me. Regulars must have something to trade with if not you will be ignored.I thought I had sent you a message last week but I didn't. I would be interested in this girl.

ChgoGuySouth
05-20-21, 13:07
Today is Chinese Valentines day, or I Love You day. Getting ready for my phone to blow up with miss you requests from the spa's I haven't been to lately.

-w.I didn't know that. Got two texts this morning like that. LOL.

Mr Charmo
05-20-21, 19:31
Has anyone thought of sending in a fake, photoshopped I'd and screen material to girls, when they ask? I have one that wants Is and stuff from work. Think I'm just going to photoshop it.

I created a fake work I'd and got a work car out of the city impound, it worked! I had gotten towed while fucking a girl downtown LOL.

Mr Charmo
05-21-21, 00:55
Any guys still up, looking for a group hit mission? Last minute. Send me a private message. Known established super seniors only.

Mr Charmo
05-21-21, 01:24
I know, I know, we've brought this up and discussed a few times before. Any guys interested in splitting an apartment, between about 4 or 5 guys? Split the rent. My idea is to keep it around 200 a month, cash, anonymous. Unlimited access to the place, but set time slots for each guy. Details can be figured out.

We can also eventually host poker nights, sports nights, couples swap, girl sharing, MFM, GB's. But that can be worked in eventually. The main objective is just an apartment that guys can use to entertain a young lady. I am thinking someplace in the north side of the city, not far from downtown. I may have a couple of options already.

Send me a message, serious interest only, please.

Jayp80
05-21-21, 08:46
Has anyone thought of sending in a fake, photoshopped I'd and screen material to girls, when they ask? I have one that wants Is and stuff from work. Think I'm just going to photoshop it.

I created a fake work I'd and got a work car out of the city impound, it worked! I had gotten towed while fucking a girl downtown LOL.I mentioned this on a previous post from another user, fake work I'd, LinkedIn and business cards. Pretty sure you can get everything done pretty cheap, for LinkedIn if you say you're an accountant for example, join accounting groups and you'll start getting connections from recruiters and random people.

AngelBravo
05-21-21, 13:01
I know, I know, we've brought this up and discussed a few times before. Any guys interested in splitting an apartment, between about 4 or 5 guys? Split the rent. My idea is to keep it around 200 a month, cash, anonymous. Unlimited access to the place, but set time slots for each guy. Details can be figured out.

We can also eventually host poker nights, sports nights, couples swap, girl sharing, MFM, GB's. But that can be worked in eventually. The main objective is just an apartment that guys can use to entertain a young lady. I am thinking someplace in the north side of the city, not far from downtown. I may have a couple of options already.

Send me a message, serious interest only, please.This is just a recipe for disaster; Renting a place means collecting rent between 4-5 people for 6 months to 1 year min. That's just the financial difficulty, you haven't even discussed water bills, heating bills, electric bills; furthermore there will always be one person that uses the place the most and another that hardly uses it. All of this is illegal so when shit goes down finger pointing will commence and someone is eventually tied to the lease who will go to jail for someone else's behavior. What's to stop a person from being too loud and getting the cops called on them; what if things go south. The rest of the people will be stuck paying this rent. The entire thing is a wonderful idea in concept but an absolute shit show among strangers off the internet. This only works between a very tight group of friends that know and trust each other very well. It won't work in any other situation.

Ron M
05-21-21, 13:41
Sounds great in theory. A bad idea in reality as someone already stated.

An Air B&B would be a safer and non drama choice.

Mr Charmo
05-21-21, 19:50
I mentioned this on a previous post from another user, fake work I'd, LinkedIn and business cards. Pretty sure you can get everything done pretty cheap, for LinkedIn if you say you're an accountant for example, join accounting groups and you'll start getting connections from recruiters and random people.Yeah, like I said, I already pulled it off on the City of Chi LOL. Fire up the good old Adobe!

Kabs3714
05-22-21, 10:26
Sounds great in theory. A bad idea in reality as someone already stated.

An Air B&B would be a safer and non drama choice.Definitely wouldn't be opposed to an Air BnB funhouse night. Everyone brings some loot and we pre book a group of ladies who are comfy with the idea and each other.

Jimjamesx
05-22-21, 11:13
This is just a recipe for disaster; Renting a place means collecting rent between 4-5 people for 6 months to 1 year min. That's just the financial difficulty, you haven't even discussed water bills, heating bills, electric bills; furthermore there will always be one person that uses the place the most and another that hardly uses it. All of this is illegal so when shit goes down finger pointing will commence and someone is eventually tied to the lease who will go to jail for someone else's behavior. What's to stop a person from being too loud and getting the cops called on them; what if things go south. The rest of the people will be stuck paying this rent. The entire thing is a wonderful idea in concept but an absolute shit show among strangers off the internet. This only works between a very tight group of friends that know and trust each other very well. It won't work in any other situation.I would only do it with my homies no strangers. Just get a suite at a big chain hotel. Look up Residence Inn or Sonesta Suites.

Jayp80
05-22-21, 13:27
This is just a recipe for disaster; Renting a place means collecting rent between 4-5 people for 6 months to 1 year min. That's just the financial difficulty, you haven't even discussed water bills, heating bills, electric bills; furthermore there will always be one person that uses the place the most and another that hardly uses it. All of this is illegal so when shit goes down finger pointing will commence and someone is eventually tied to the lease who will go to jail for someone else's behavior. What's to stop a person from being too loud and getting the cops called on them; what if things go south. The rest of the people will be stuck paying this rent. The entire thing is a wonderful idea in concept but an absolute shit show among strangers off the internet. This only works between a very tight group of friends that know and trust each other very well. It won't work in any other situation.Doubt you have much legal exposure for what the other guys do when you're not there, flight attendants and pilots do this all the time. Best option would be to make everyone pay up for the year so you don't have to hear monthly sob stories about how a dude that bangs 3 hookers a week can't pay his $200 portion of rent on time. Where the idea breaks down is when guys want it at the same time and trying to decide who needs to reschedule and who can have it. I knew a guy who had an essentially unfurnished condo in the hood that he paid cash for (50 k) that his wife didn't know anything about that he used to bang his side chicks.

Mr Charmo
05-23-21, 16:25
I am being asked to join a couple in the west burbs, but I am currently out for a girl who would be interested in SWAP couple fun.

Girl is in her early 30's, the guy is in his late 30's. Pretty chill, open vibe.

Anybody interested, have a girl that is open to SWAP, hit me up direct.

Mr Charmo
06-07-21, 18:10
Anybody have any info on getting an abortion? A 19 yo friend is 3 months pregnant. Says she's in a tough spot, no money. Anybody have any info on how / where she can get an abortion? Any info would be appreciated.

I know this isn't the correct thread, but decided to post in a rush, heading out.

Wirelessone
06-07-21, 18:21
Any guys have any info on getting an abortion? I just chatted with a girl, whose 19 yo friend is 3 months pregnant. Says she's in a tough spot, no money. Anybody have any info on how / where she can get an abortion? Any info would be appreciated.

I know this isn't the correct thread, but decided to post in a rush, heading out.I'm not a fan of PP but I also understand. It's worth the friend calling, explaining her situation and have them explain her options.

Fit312
06-07-21, 19:22
Anybody have any info on getting an abortion?https://www.fpachicago.com/ is the biggest clinic downtown.

Wirelessone
06-07-21, 20:07
https://www.fpachicago.com/ is the biggest clinic downtown.Probably at little to no cost as well, bring proof of income last 90 days pay stubs or unemployment stub and I think you need a utility bill or unopened bank statement etc some unopened mail with address that matches their government i.d. should do it

And if you need to see a doctor as well bring proof of income, unemployment etc. You'll wait all day and maybe into the night but won't cost you much, same low cost for meds as well after doctors visit.

ChgoGuySouth
06-09-21, 11:37
I am being asked to join a couple in the west burbs, but I am currently out for a girl who would be interested in SWAP couple fun.

Girl is in her early 30's, the guy is in his late 30's. Pretty chill, open vibe.

Anybody interested, have a girl that is open to SWAP, hit me up direct.I've had a lot luck at the bars in Naperville. Met couples there and single females. All of them were mature.

NJohnston
06-09-21, 15:42
I've had a lot luck at the bars in Naperville. Met couples there and single females. All of them were mature.If you have just a little game, there is definitely some things to be found in the bars in and around Naperville. Especially couples.

DrRobotNik
06-09-21, 21:47
Anyone stayed here before? If so, any issues with security or the front desk if having a girl visit for an outcall to me?

ChgoGuySouth
06-09-21, 22:17
If you have just a little game, there is definitely some things to be found in the bars in and around Naperville. Especially couples.Yes, still need a little game and etiquette.

Ron M
06-09-21, 22:42
Doesn't take much game to pick up women in their 40's or older. They're probably at the bars hoping a guy will try picking them up.

TitSucker
06-10-21, 13:30
Yes, still need a little game and etiquette.I have etiquette, but no game.

GMan25
06-10-21, 14:29
Anyone stayed here before? If so, any issues with security or the front desk if having a girl visit for an outcall to me?I've stayed there. It shouldn't be a problem, especially if you meet her at lobby doors etc. Have her dress normal and not like-- you know, suggestive.

DrRobotNik
06-10-21, 18:27
I've stayed there. It shouldn't be a problem, especially if you meet her at lobby doors etc. Have her dress normal and not like-- you know, suggestive.I'm assuming the place requires a key for the elevators so I'll just meet her in the lobby. Was more concerned on if the the front desk staff or security will care or not.

ElJefe69
06-10-21, 19:19
I'm assuming the place requires a key for the elevators so I'll just meet her in the lobby. Was more concerned on if the the front desk staff or security will care or not.The front desk does not care. They are well aware that prostitutes come to the hotels to either stay there and entertain or visit someone staying there.

Datsurman
06-15-21, 23:01
Anybody check this place out?

https://www.vagaro.com/waxman/staff

PM if any interesting experiences.

Getreal
06-16-21, 00:57
I do not know where to post this, either here or in escort reviews. But do references ever expire? I have had a few old references tell me, since I haven't seen them in a while that they can't vouch for me. Seems strange to me.

FirstTimer7
06-16-21, 01:53
I do not know where to post this, either here or in escort reviews. But do references ever expire? I have had a few old references tell me, since I haven't seen them in a while that they can't vouch for me. Seems strange to me.YMMV but why would they spend time verifying you if you arent a regular or give them business.

GoHomeSmiling
06-21-21, 18:12
Posting here because cicero thread is dead.

Anyone ever visit Bare Assets? Look like a 24-hour toy store and arcade. Anyone know what the setup is or if anything ever happens there (you know -scrabble, pancake breakfasts, etc.) ? Can't tell if they have a theater (so guessing not). Might head out and report back but given what and where it is, seems like it gets overlooked here. Maybe that is for good reason.

DrPepper2976
06-21-21, 20:29
I do not know where to post this, either here or in escort reviews. But do references ever expire? I have had a few old references tell me, since I haven't seen them in a while that they can't vouch for me. Seems strange to me.People can only remember so far back, usually in my experience a provider's reference is good for 6 months or so, unless you were a frequent / recurring client, then it was a year.

Chicago41
06-22-21, 10:28
People can only remember so far back, usually in my experience a provider's reference is good for 6 months or so, unless you were a frequent / recurring client, then it was a year.For good reason, too. After a lot of time passes and she hasn't seen you she has no idea if your profile was taken over by cops or sold to robbers, or if you turned into an abusive creep in the meantime.

Moejoo
06-22-21, 11:01
I do not know where to post this, either here or in escort reviews. But do references ever expire? I have had a few old references tell me, since I haven't seen them in a while that they can't vouch for me. Seems strange to me.How many hundreds of guys have they seen since they last saw you, do you really expect them to remember what kind of guy you were. If you review a girl today and don't see her again for a few years would you still vouch for her being the same as when you reviewed her?

Getreal
06-23-21, 22:52
How many hundreds of guys have they seen since they last saw you, do you really expect them to remember what kind of guy you were. If you review a girl today and don't see her again for a few years would you still vouch for her being the same as when you reviewed her?OK I get it thank you.

Mayor Quimby
06-24-21, 00:36
Posting here because cicero thread is dead.

Anyone ever visit Bare Assets? Look like a 24-hour toy store and arcade. Anyone know what the setup is or if anything ever happens there (you know -scrabble, pancake breakfasts, etc.) ? Can't tell if they have a theater (so guessing not). Might head out and report back but given what and where it is, seems like it gets overlooked here. Maybe that is for good reason.I do not know about now, but in the past that was a place you'd go & stand in a booth & watch a lady dance / strip behind a glass screen. I have no idea if they still have dancers. Might as well stay home & watch porn hub, LOL.

Sagka
06-28-21, 17:00
Is keeping up with rs2 k still worth it?

HansWehr
06-28-21, 17:16
Is keeping up with rs2 k still worth it?I think it is worth it to get your foot in the door somewhere. It helped me get into XOC and MA very quick.

DevMonkey
06-29-21, 11:17
https://tryst.link/escort/katrina

If anyone has been seeing my post, I was able to meet Katrina. She has told me what is going on and that she is pregnant. I was respecting her wishes, but she would only reach out to me to see her either when I was starting work or during lunch. I got to see her only to take her out for lunch and cover the hotel room with the understanding I would see her that night.

She would then blow me off and text me the next morning saying she lost WiFi or had fallen asleep. I am tired of her now after 4 days and I believe she is now just avoiding me when I never got to actually spend time with her.

Guys, please avoid her. She is using drugs, has her life in all chaos, and she will just cash and dash if possible. If you do arrive at her location, she won't answer her door or she would just ask you to wait to clean her room or something. She is just trying to throw as many excuses.

AVOID!

KingOfJong
06-30-21, 17:23
Hello.

I am new to hiring an escort and I was wondering what is the best place to find an escort in Chicago. Are there any good websites or agencies? I looked at some of the local escort agencies like ECE Chicago but they don't open until 5 pm or have fake adds. I was hoping to get an escort in the morning. I found a girl on Eros.com but I don't know how trust worthy Eros.com is. This girl is sexylatinadriana and she has website and twitter page. I am not sure if she is legit? What agency or website is used most often in Chicago to hire escorts?

Thank you.

Hater
07-03-21, 09:02
Hello.

I am new to hiring an escort and I was wondering what is the best place to find an escort in Chicago. Are there any good websites or agencies? I looked at some of the local escort agencies like ECE Chicago but they don't open until 5 pm or have fake adds. I was hoping to get an escort in the morning. I found a girl on Eros.com but I don't know how trust worthy Eros.com is. This girl is sexylatinadriana and she has website and twitter page. I am not sure if she is legit? What agency or website is used most often in Chicago to hire escorts?

Thank you.New to the hobby sucks only non-reputable providers will take you. Best thing to do first is to join https://rs2k.ch/ or p411.com.

Also those places have girls that will accept you after you join there service. https://www.michellesescorts.com/ And https://modelingave.escortbook.com/ have girls working in the morning starting 10 am or 11 am. Good luck!

BearsFan78
07-03-21, 12:43
Hello.

I am new to hiring an escort and I was wondering what is the best place to find an escort in Chicago. Are there any good websites or agencies? I looked at some of the local escort agencies like ECE Chicago but they don't open until 5 pm or have fake adds. I was hoping to get an escort in the morning. I found a girl on Eros.com but I don't know how trust worthy Eros.com is. This girl is sexylatinadriana and she has website and twitter page. I am not sure if she is legit? What agency or website is used most often in Chicago to hire escorts?

Thank you.The sites I mainly use to find girls tryst, skipthegames, listcrawler, adult search, and eros. If you put "Chicago escorts" in your search bar it will pull up the most searched escort sites in the area.

DrPepper2976
07-03-21, 12:45
Hello.

I am new to hiring an escort and I was wondering what is the best place to find an escort in Chicago. Are there any good websites or agencies? I looked at some of the local escort agencies like ECE Chicago but they don't open until 5 pm or have fake adds. I was hoping to get an escort in the morning. I found a girl on Eros.com but I don't know how trust worthy Eros.com is. This girl is sexylatinadriana and she has website and twitter page. I am not sure if she is legit? What agency or website is used most often in Chicago to hire escorts?

Thank you.Hater had good tips, to follow up: when you're new its best to stick with agencies instead of independent providers as you're less likely to be ripped off. I would hold off on Eros since they've gotten less reliable unless you want to see a porn star. If you really want to go independent I would recommend https://tryst.link/ because they need to be verified, and on the rare chance you do get ripped off they can be reported and booted (but hopefully you have the extra money since independents tend to cost more. If you're not sure you can come back here and ask about the provider.).

Other agencies to recommend:

ECE and michelles are alright.

Another is https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/.

ElGoloso
07-08-21, 11:10
OK so I finally Golgotha a better way to contact her and said to pass her number around. Seniors feel free to reach out to me. Sorry only seniors at the moment cause I'm not trying to have her out that much cause she is my regular still and I have a thing for her as well. Inbox me for her number.

Head First
07-09-21, 10:06
I do not know about now, but in the past that was a place you'd go & stand in a booth & watch a lady dance / strip behind a glass screen. I have no idea if they still have dancers. Might as well stay home & watch porn hub, LOL.I broke my mongering cherry at the one on Halsted. I dropped (way too) many tokens to watch naked dancers while jerking off. Fell in lust a few times. Lorena was my atf. For years I followed her around to all the different spots she worked at. She eventually got divorced and I met her up at Show Palace one night where she danced exclusively for me all night long and then took me back to her place in Janesville where I shot 3 loads into her. Those were the days.
When I first started going there (early 90’s) it had a different name. Does anyone recall?

ThroatSeek77
07-09-21, 12:25
New to the hobby sucks only non-reputable providers will take you. Best thing to do first is to join https://rs2k.ch/ or p411.com.

Also those places have girls that will accept you after you join there service. https://www.michellesescorts.com/ And https://modelingave.escortbook.com/ have girls working in the morning starting 10 am or 11 am. Good luck!
Hater had good tips, to follow up: when you're new its best to stick with agencies instead of independent providers as you're less likely to be ripped off. To add a bit of nuance to this thought process and offer a look on the other side of the coin: I've been on and off in this hobby for 8-9 years. I began as a complete, young newbie on backpage. I joined P411 in 2015 and never used it, the site didn't have much activity. I know the purpose of P411 is for verification but I stayed away from high dollar escorts because I couldn't afford it. I never used it as verification for anything and honestly never saw any escort who had verification rules. But I've had encounters with "low" dollar escorts who didn't require verification and later down the road saw them transform themselves into "high" dollar verification escorts.

P411 recently reactivated old members for free after the pandemic, I checked the site out again and didn't see anything I liked on there. I mainly stayed on Backpage / Listcrawler for the past 8 years and I developed an eye and a method to weeding out girls. Patience is key. I also developed a red flag method for meeting up with new faces. There's always a key giveaway and I have several personal rules and I'll walk away / leave at a hint of anything off. And I've had some really good experiences with low dollar local freaks who are not "professionals" and didn't last long publicly posting ads but continued to see regulars including me. After watching these sites for years, I know the girls that have been posting every day for months / years and I mainly hunt for complete newbies, but you have to know what to look for.

I figured out after a few years that finding good "cheap" throat is a safer bet than good "cheap" FS. "Low" dollar for me is $80-$250, which is still a good amount of money in my book, but also basically the bottom range for this hobby. Prices have crept up a ton even since 2019, and I think it's because the girls know it's a drought compared to years prior.

In my book, the perfect meet for me is a girl who just needs extra cash on the side but she works a regular job. I once had a southside Family Dollar manager doing incalls out of her apartment who would have leg shaking orgasms just from giving ME head. $80 bbj only swallower.

I've only been in one dangerous encounter in all my years, in 2020 involving transgenders in an apartment incall that threatened to get violent when I noticed they weren't women and I started walking out. They got loud, threatening to taser me and I had to run out. Would've been dumb on them if they actually did because it was their apartment incall. Never seen anything crazy like that before or since. I seek BBJ so when it comes to BBJ I've had a couple trans who aren't up front about that fact, looking for you to just get to the location and just agree to get head from them, no thanks.

One thing I can say for sure: the drought of girls is real. Listcrawlers has been slow since 2019. That's the main reason I'm here. The glory days are over. Now these women can get money from men without actually having sex and I think that's the issue.

Fit312
07-09-21, 14:03
When I first started going there (early 90s) it had a different name. Does anyone recall?Puss in Booths.

RichardILove69
07-09-21, 16:11
OK so I finally Golgotha a better way to contact her and said to pass her number around. Seniors feel free to reach out to me. Sorry only seniors at the moment cause I'm not trying to have her out that much cause she is my regular still and I have a thing for her as well. Inbox me for her number.Whats her number or does is she online? Senior here.

StanleyStankas
07-09-21, 17:41
How many hundreds of guys have they seen since they last saw you, do you really expect them to remember what kind of guy you were. If you review a girl today and don't see her again for a few years would you still vouch for her being the same as when you reviewed her?A pro girl and I have known one as a "friend" in a way when I first moved back into the city, would keep files. However, just like the provider changes her details on a regular basis, one really never knows who the hobbyist really is or even begin to remember. I mean I follow one girl who used to travel into chicago land on occasion, originally from new orleans and now on the east coast. Now she is well into her upper 40's and she started in her 20's. How many dongs has she had inside her? Thousands? So yea there is a quick stale date on both sides of the fence. What once was a good provider may have now washed out on drugs or drink and still barely at the game just to feed her habits. And on the other side with identity theft someone that she used to see and remembers might have had their credentials taken by uncle LEO. So everyone is cautious and re-screens.

George Stark
07-10-21, 01:20
And I've had some really good experiences with low dollar local freaks who are not "professionals" and didn't last long publicly posting ads but continued to see regulars including me. After watching these sites for years, I know the girls that have been posting every day for months / years and I mainly hunt for complete newbies, but you have to know what to look for.

Now *that* is some really interesting stuff. I'm going to have to give that some thought. I've mostly avoided brand new girls with no reviews, but what you say makes a lot of sense. Thanks!




One thing I can say for sure: the drought of girls is real. Listcrawlers has been slow since 2019. That's the main reason I'm here. The glory days are over. Now these women can get money from men without actually having sex and I think that's the issue.

Have to agree about the drought. It was way easier in late 2018, early 2019. And the reason you give makes sense. Cam/only-fans - just don't do it.

Econ911
07-10-21, 14:52
So quick question for all the people here. Do you give personal info out to providers & agencies that ask for verification? Just quick example. There is a girl who I would've to see that works for an agency. Agency is asking for a lot of info, like full first and last name, employer, picture of I'd, etc. Just doesn't seem like a great idea.

What's the general rule to follow here? Seems. More and. More good providers are asking for info for screening.

LuxiMudi
07-10-21, 16:49
So quick question for all the people here. Do you give personal info out to providers & agencies that ask for verification? Just quick example. There is a girl who I would've to see that works for an agency. Agency is asking for a lot of info, like full first and last name, employer, picture of I'd, etc. Just doesn't seem like a great idea.

What's the general rule to follow here? Seems. More and. More good providers are asking for info for screening.I've given my I'd / work info to pretty much every agency in Chicago at this point and never had any problems, but I also don't have a wife and boss to worry about LOL.

StanKost
07-10-21, 19:13
So quick question for all the people here. Do you give personal info out to providers & agencies that ask for verification? Just quick example. There is a girl who I would've to see that works for an agency. Agency is asking for a lot of info, like full first and last name, employer, picture of I'd, etc. Just doesn't seem like a great idea.

What's the general rule to follow here? Seems. More and. More good providers are asking for info for screening.I had sent copies of my DL and work I'd although I use an old badge from a job in another state and haven't had any issues so far. Obviously I'm very selective to whom I'll send my personal info but reputable agencies and well reviewed escorts or well known porn stars are relatively safeThere is always a risk of a hack or selling your info or a provider getting hooked on drugs and trying to extort you desperate for $$. I usually cover parts of my DL and or work I'd and often times is enough but some agencies or escorts are adamant about a thorough check The good thing is that once you pass the verification process you'll have access to all the agency girls and with indies they will want to verify you every time for a first visit. Different hobbyists have different threshold for risk like some will visit drug houses for cheap bare pussy and I'll never go there and similarly some will never send their DL and others will. I'd never give my info to a SA girl

ThroatSeek77
07-11-21, 14:40
Now *that* is some really interesting stuff. I'm going to have to give that some thought. I've mostly avoided brand new girls with no reviews, but what you say makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

Have to agree about the drought. It was way easier in late 2018, early 2019. And the reason you give makes sense. Cam/only-fans - just don't do it.It's actually sad, a shame really, how far downhill the Chicago scene has fallen considering how big Chicago + surrounding suburbs + NWI is. In 2019 and prior you could just go on listcrawler and find some random young girl with no "escorting" experience trying to do something for some money. I've had countless great experiences with young 18 - early 20's girls who just needed money. And if it was a bad encounter we're only talking like somewhere around $60-120. Once a girl has experience selling herself, because it's "cheap" she also has bad experiences from shady men. She may be just "done" with it after a short stint. Ideally you need to get to her before all of that transpires.

Nowadays, finding organic new ones is real tough. It's been tough in general for years now, like you said. - One thing I have learned though (from seeing it happen), a lot of times new ones will only post one ad, and it might only be up for a few hours. If you miss that window of opportunity for grabbing the number, it's gone. It's literally a hunt.

I wish I was more organized in my past. I lost a lot of numbers and contacts that I could still have if I actually was determined to keep track of it all with a spreadsheet or something. Now I have all this hindsight because of the sad state of the game.

Eric1975
07-12-21, 11:29
It's actually sad, a shame really, how far downhill the Chicago scene has fallen considering how big Chicago + surrounding suburbs + NWI is. In 2019 and prior you could just go on listcrawler and find some random young girl with no "escorting" experience trying to do something for some money. I've had countless great experiences with young 18 - early 20's girls who just needed money. And if it was a bad encounter we're only talking like somewhere around $60-120. Once a girl has experience selling herself, because it's "cheap" she also has bad experiences from shady men. She may be just "done" with it after a short stint. Ideally you need to get to her before all of that transpires.

Nowadays, finding organic new ones is real tough. It's been tough in general for years now, like you said. - One thing I have learned though (from seeing it happen), a lot of times new ones will only post one ad, and it might only be up for a few hours. If you miss that window of opportunity for grabbing the number, it's gone. It's literally a hunt.

I wish I was more organized in my past. I lost a lot of numbers and contacts that I could still have if I actually was determined to keep track of it all with a spreadsheet or something. Now I have all this hindsight because of the sad state of the game.Had to chime in. The scene isn't any better to your north either. Your post is spot on. Was only a few years ago was able to get the 18 to 23 range fairly easy. The ones at that age are quite competitive as far as materialistic things go. Always have to have the better clothes or cellphone or whatever than their friends. Well all that costs money and a retail job ain't going to cut it with their tastes, so it was fairly easy to scoop them up. So what changed?

GMan25
07-12-21, 14:38
So quick question for all the people here. Do you give personal info out to providers & agencies that ask for verification? Just quick example. There is a girl who I would've to see that works for an agency. Agency is asking for a lot of info, like full first and last name, employer, picture of I'd, etc. Just doesn't seem like a great idea.

What's the general rule to follow here? Seems. More and. More good providers are asking for info for screening.There is no law against giving your personal info to someone. How many people already have my info in the contacts of their phones? With that said, I would never discuss anything over the phone or text etc. Can I see you today could be a request to sit and have coffee, or to get a legit massage? Someone already posted if the sig other finds out it could get messy, but from a legal standpoint, there is no harm in someone having your info.

LongDStyle
07-12-21, 15:10
Had to chime in. The scene isn't any better to your north either. Your post is spot on. Was only a few years ago was able to get the 18 to 23 range fairly easy. The ones at that age are quite competitive as far as materialistic things go. Always have to have the better clothes or cellphone or whatever than their friends. Well all that costs money and a retail job ain't going to cut it with their tastes, so it was fairly easy to scoop them up. So what changed?You can blame only fans for one. Girls are starting to realize they don't have to have sex for guys to give them money. Besides that I've notice plenty of girls go rogue where once they provided a legitimate service to asking for deposits and scamming. And talking with my circle of people it actually seems pay to play is becoming more acceptable. I have friends who I wouldn't dream about having conversations about hookers with and now I have plenty of guy friends that do it between relationships or for casual entertainment. That being said the demand has went up, guys are paying more for less and guys are sending and spending money before the woman even enters their eyes. I thought it was just the Chicago market but after going to Atlanta I see things are drier then they've been elsewhere. This year and last could be an anomaly due to the rona, but I also know these stimulus checks, increases in unemployment and the PPE scams have put more money in guys pockets so there's a lot of discretionary spending. I have heard stories of guys getting the 30,000 in PPE money and literally spending it on mostly women. I also use that to support the increase in rates. I'm not seeing many girls offer 30 minutes for 120-150, most these girls even the non attractive ones are asking for 200 minimum, no matter how old, fat or ugly. I have about 7 burner numbers so if I find a girl I'd like to see and her price is high, I just keep trying from different numbers until I get a response I like. On the flip side, if she gets 5 people texting her and each time she doesn't get a reply after revealing her price she may think she's asking too much and drop it some to see if she can finally get a client.

Eric1975
07-12-21, 16:56
You can blame only fans for one. Girls are starting to realize they don't have to have sex for guys to give them money. Besides that I've notice plenty of girls go rogue where once they provided a legitimate service to asking for deposits and scamming. And talking with my circle of people it actually seems pay to play is becoming more acceptable. I have friends who I wouldn't dream about having conversations about hookers with and now I have plenty of guy friends that do it between relationships or for casual entertainment. That being said the demand has went up, guys are paying more for less and guys are sending and spending money before the woman even enters their eyes. I thought it was just the Chicago market but after going to Atlanta I see things are drier then they've been elsewhere. This year and last could be an anomaly due to the rona, but I also know these stimulus checks, increases in unemployment and the PPE scams have put more money in guys pockets so there's a lot of discretionary spending. I have heard stories of guys getting the 30,000 in PPE money and literally spending it on mostly women. I also use that to support the increase in rates. I'm not seeing many girls offer 30 minutes for 120-150, most these girls even the non attractive ones are asking for 200 minimum, no matter how old, fat or ugly. I have about 7 burner numbers so if I find a girl I'd like to see and her price is high, I just keep trying from different numbers until I get a response I like. On the flip side, if she gets 5 people texting her and each time she doesn't get a reply after revealing her price she may think she's asking too much and drop it some to see if she can finally get a client.Good insight. I was thinking o fans and pandemic money. As most these girls have a few kids, they must be banking pretty good money. As far as the * goes, I see it now more and more in all the ads. Even the ugly homely ones are getting their own page. I thought o fans paid a small percent to the page owner? If so, she'd have to have an awful lot of subscribers to even make it worth while. Illinois isint quite as bad as the dismal desert that Wisconsin has become but I suspect it will get there. It's a crapshoot really, do you gamble with a STG girl. If you can find one or do you invest more time more money and go with a SA girl. Or further still, travel. I travel frequently to Nicaragua and have played the field there with extremely good results and with far less money. I think I'm going to have to start cashing in my frequent flyer miles.

George Stark
07-12-21, 18:44
Just thought I'd add some emphasis to previous posts. I'm not here to rage against porn. I find it counter-productive, but it's an individual choice.

But every single ofans subscription is that much less money a chick has to get from sex with an actual guy. So to sub to an escort's only-fans is massively counter-productive for all of us.

It's like deposits. JUST SAY NO.

I won't say I've never done it. Just that I hadn't thought it out, and I *won't* be doing it anymore. God knows there's enough *other* porn out there, we don't have to f* up our chances with these girls.

Hopefully the stimulus money will soon dissipate and things will be more normal. God help us if *this* is the new normal.

ApplePiePussy
07-12-21, 19:39
Just thought I'd add some emphasis to previous posts. I'm not here to rage against porn. I find it counter-productive, but it's an individual choice.

But every single ofans subscription is that much less money a chick has to get from sex with an actual guy. So to sub to an escort's only-fans is massively counter-productive for all of us.

It's like deposits. JUST SAY NO.

I won't say I've never done it. Just that I hadn't thought it out, and I *won't* be doing it anymore. God knows there's enough *other* porn out there, we don't have to f* up our chances with these girls.

Hopefully the stimulus money will soon dissipate and things will be more normal. God help us if *this* is the new normal.I took a deep dive into the world of OF to see what it was all about. After about a month, let me tell you what I found.

First off, there are tons and tons of girls on there from all over the word, although Russia and SE Asia are disproportionately represented. They promote each other so your feed is always full of newer potential girls to add. There's so many that there is no way in hell that any but the absolute hottest girls make enough to live on. I'm talking the ones who are already popular on IG. There's only so much discretionary income to go around for them. 9's and 10's can easily make a lot of money. 6's, 7's, and 8's have far too much competition. This is why they all have free accounts instead of paid accounts. They are attempting to make money on individual picture sets and videos because they cannot sustain a membership base.

I have yet to find a girl from Chicago. My feed is full of girls from Russia and SE Asia, who are very attractive and present at least a small window of opportunity for a meet up if / when I travel out there. I have a couple porn stars that I keep around as well because it's fun to communicate with them. Some of them are pretty interesting people outside of their work.

I should also say that I was recently receiving a body rub from a very attractive Euro girl here in Chicago, and she told me she works online. As a joke, I said, "OF. " And she laughed and shook her head. She said she has a real job and that she wouldn't want to be on the internet like that for the whole world to see. A lot of girls work discreetly in the P2 P industry, especially Euro and Asian girls. And they don't want their friends and family to find out. Once you are on OF, with the way the internet catalogues everything, it's pretty much permanent.

OF is not what's causing the decline in talent in Chicago. NYC, LA, Toronto, Orlando are full of talent currently. Yes, even locked down Toronto. I know because I follow the various agencies and reviews for intel.

The problem here for Chicago is the following:

A) There are far more busts here in Chicago than the other major cities. Ironically, this does not slow the amount of women working in the industry. It simply reduces the quality of talent not quantity.

B) Chicago is not a destination city to the majority of the world. Yes, we have tourists. But we have tourists as a secondary destination, not a primary. Nobody goes to China to visit Wuhan (pre-pandemic) or Guangzhou. They got to Shanghai, Beijing, Macau, Hong Kong, and possibly Shenzhen. IE NYC, LA, Miami, Vegas, and Honolulu.

C) It doesn't fucking help that we are in the news everyday for murders. This creates fear. Women don't like fear.

Riina
07-12-21, 22:25
OF is not what's causing the decline in talent in Chicago. NYC, LA, Toronto, Orlando are full of talent currently. Yes, even locked down Toronto. I know because I follow the various agencies and reviews for intel.
Mongering has been on a straight decline all over the world in the last ten years. As far as I'm concerned, the internet ruined everything and too many people with a lot of money.

The fact nobody wants to come to Chicago anymore really accelerated things here.

Jayp80
07-13-21, 07:49
Mongering has been on a straight decline all over the world in the last ten years. As far as I'm concerned, the internet ruined everything and too many people with a lot of money.

The fact nobody wants to come to Chicago anymore really accelerated things here.Dude if you were 24 making $10 k a month for rubbing your tits together in a couple videos a day would you live in Chicago or even anywhere else in America? Online (BP and CL) killed streetwalking, cam girls and OF killed online the "sex workers circle of life". Our only hope is some women's group pushes the OF is exploitation agenda and banks stop accepting payments to or from sites like OF. Pretty much what happened to porn hub.

ApplePiePussy
07-13-21, 10:53
Mongering has been on a straight decline all over the world in the last ten years. As far as I'm concerned, the internet ruined everything and too many people with a lot of money.

The fact nobody wants to come to Chicago anymore really accelerated things here.I wouldn't say it's on a decline everywhere. Chicago for sure.

But have a look at this agency in Montreal.

https://www.euphoriagirls.com/

Look at this one out of Madrid:

https://www.tumejorcita.com/

Not only are the women hot, the prices are affordable.

These are just 2 examples. I have plenty more.

ApplePiePussy
07-13-21, 11:01
Dude if you were 24 making $10 k a month for rubbing your tits together in a couple videos a day would you live in Chicago or even anywhere else in America? Online (BP and CL) killed streetwalking, cam girls and OF killed online the "sex workers circle of life". Our only hope is some women's group pushes the OF is exploitation agenda and banks stop accepting payments to or from sites like OF. Pretty much what happened to porn hub.Streetwalkers are alive and well in Colombia and other parts of the world. In the US, streetwalkers are 99% of the time drug addicts, likely high at the time, trannies, or have some sort of mental deficiency. It takes half an hour to create an online ad.

Eric1975
07-13-21, 11:22
I wouldn't say it's on a decline everywhere. Chicago for sure.

But have a look at this agency in Montreal.

https://www.euphoriagirls.com/

Look at this one out of Madrid:

https://www.tumejorcita.com/

Not only are the women hot, the prices are affordable.

These are just 2 examples. I have plenty more.Truth. Download a TOR browser and check out Leos list. For those that don't know, Leos list is like the Craigslist or BP of Canada. Unlike STG here in the states, Leos list has verified providers.

Unbelievable the number of women and not only that, the number of women that are gorgeous. Toronto and its surrounding suburbs got it going on.

Eric1975
07-13-21, 11:39
Streetwalkers are alive and well in Colombia and other parts of the world. In the US, streetwalkers are 99% of the time drug addicts, likely high at the time, trannies, or have some sort of mental deficiency. It takes half an hour to create an online ad.Probably the biggest difference between street walkers here and the street walkers in, let's say, central America is necessity. Most here are doing it because of addiction or forced. In central America, it's mostly because of poverty, food for their children. Most, I'd say a very high percentage are not on any kind of drugs, they simply couldn't afford it anyway. I travel to Nicaragua frequently and the difference between here and there is day and night. I don't pick up street walkers, I use a website similar to STG. My Nica girl I see everytime I go. For what I spend here on a worn out rode hard STG girl, I can spend the entire day with her.

LongDStyle
07-13-21, 22:33
Good insight. I was thinking o fans and pandemic money. As most these girls have a few kids, they must be banking pretty good money. As far as the * goes, I see it now more and more in all the ads. Even the ugly homely ones are getting their own page. I thought o fans paid a small percent to the page owner? If so, she'd have to have an awful lot of subscribers to even make it worth while. Illinois isint quite as bad as the dismal desert that Wisconsin has become but I suspect it will get there. It's a crapshoot really, do you gamble with a STG girl. If you can find one or do you invest more time more money and go with a SA girl. Or further still, travel. I travel frequently to Nicaragua and have played the field there with extremely good results and with far less money. I think I'm going to have to start cashing in my frequent flyer miles.While I agree with most anything here. I can say that I surf these sites religiously even when I'm not in the mood or out of budget just for the new girls or rare unicorns. But I have noticed that Chicago attracts a lot of girls from Wisconsin, Indiana and Texas. Wisconsin and Indiana girls come here all the time and post and work on weekends and then go back home. I had a girl I saw for cheap, very attractive from Decatur that came into town every weekend because there was more money here than her area and didn't have to worry about seeing someone she knew. I've been seeing less of these types but they still have numbers. If you look at area codes you'll notice a lot of these girls have 414,252, 219 and 765 area codes when they are from out of state.

I did also notice while I was in Atlanta that a lot of girls I see post in Chicago also travel there routinely. I saw so many I thought they were duplicate of scam ads but nope. When I searched Chicago that same day they hadn't posted in a few days so it checked out okay. I was looking for new women, wasn't going to see a girl I can easily catch back home. Plus they might be weird-ed being contacted my a monger with an area code from their hometown while being almost 1000 miles away. But I agree with the crime factor, I've noticed many more girls work far out in the suburbs vs inner city and if they are inner city it's downtown, by the airports or northside exclusive. The main girl I've been seeing only works in the south suburbs and downtown for outcalls, she completely skips the south side even though she travels thru it for her coverage area.

LongDStyle
07-13-21, 22:43
Just thought I'd add some emphasis to previous posts. I'm not here to rage against porn. I find it counter-productive, but it's an individual choice.

But every single ofans subscription is that much less money a chick has to get from sex with an actual guy. So to sub to an escort's only-fans is massively counter-productive for all of us.

It's like deposits. JUST SAY NO.

I won't say I've never done it. Just that I hadn't thought it out, and I *won't* be doing it anymore. God knows there's enough *other* porn out there, we don't have to f* up our chances with these girls.

Hopefully the stimulus money will soon dissipate and things will be more normal. God help us if *this* is the new normal.I feel only fans is very similar to deposits as well. I've also noticed an illogical standpoint a lot of these women have. You would be surprised at the amount of women on snapchat, Instagram and only fans that you can contact to "fly them out" to you or you can go visit them. I would not trust it. Years ago (like 2013) I talked with a woman I met online and she wanted me to fly her to me. But I didn't trust sending her the money or buying a ticket to send her. Even if she actually used the ticket to come here there was no guarantee she would come back to my place, spend all the time with me or even get intimate. Plus there's plenty of women here in this big city that I shouldn't have to do that anyway especially at that price point.

I'm on a dating site and I was in conversation with 2 women (who we're promoting their only fans) were telling guys they could fly either one of them out to see them or even both if desired. I told the girls I was interested in meeting them, they are here in Chicago. Two south side ghetto attractive petite women. I explained I didn't need to fly them out as I was in the same area but I told them my intentions and what they could get in return. They declined and also claimed they weren't interested in anything intimate. Well who is going to fly these women out just to hangout? Some women honestly think if you fly them out they aren't obligated to do anything with you. That's fine but I'm not that guy.

Smdiw81
07-14-21, 08:21
The main girl I've been seeing only works in the south suburbs and downtown for outcalls, she completely skips the south side even though she travels thru it for her coverage area.Willing to share? Having a hard time finding someone reliable in the area.

VikingFan13
07-14-21, 09:33
What's next?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/massage-schools-across-us-suspected-100107791.html

Fit312
07-14-21, 14:04
You would be surprised at the amount of women on snapchat, Instagram and only fans that you can contact to "fly them out" to you or you can go visit them. A girl I banged at an Asian apartment was staying at some dude's apartment here in town, all well documented on Instagram. She went back to doing her weeklies in various cities after that.

FirstTimer7
07-16-21, 11:03
Just thought I'd add some emphasis to previous posts. I'm not here to rage against porn. I find it counter-productive, but it's an individual choice.

But every single ofans subscription is that much less money a chick has to get from sex with an actual guy. So to sub to an escort's only-fans is massively counter-productive for all of us.

It's like deposits. JUST SAY NO.

I won't say I've never done it. Just that I hadn't thought it out, and I *won't* be doing it anymore. God knows there's enough *other* porn out there, we don't have to f* up our chances with these girls.

Hopefully the stimulus money will soon dissipate and things will be more normal. God help us if *this* is the new normal.I totally agree. I've done my fair share of OF too but I only subscribe for a month to check it out. I've never done a recurring subscription. On the porn stand point, it's a ripoff. It a ppv model similar to clip4 sale where you essentially buy pic set / videos individually. The subscription price is just to get in the door, which show you minimal content that they would of posted on twitter / instagram anyways. If you want the good stuff you have to buy them individually in addition to the subscription price. But in my experience, those paid videos arent even good. Majority of them are teaser vids that don't even last a few minutes. Some also have a habit or recycling old content as new or using twitter / insta content. And pornstars are notorious for putting previous porn studio scenes behind a paywall on OF when you can watch it for free with a bit of googling.

On the escort standpoint, in my experience, OF allowed them to raise their prices. One of the providers completely stopped escorting a few years ago and only did OF to this day. She only does solo content with toys and can still make a living out of it. Another provider 54 yo, use to charge 300/ hr, had surgery and stopped escorting for about a year and relied solely on OF (OF takes 20% commission). Afterwards, her rates went up to 450 and she apparently had a full schedule when she toured here last month. The power of reddit / twit / instagram brings in a lot of subscribers. If you try filtering online services on tryst, a lot of the Facetiming cost as much, if not more than seeing them in person. Avg FT for 15 min is around $100-200. It's ridiculous!

BigSexy1234
07-16-21, 12:31
Working the weekend in burr ridge does anyone have any lady recommendations for some after work fun.

George Stark
07-16-21, 20:24
I totally agree. I've done my fair share of OF too but I only subscribe for a month to check it out. I've never done a recurring subscription.Ditto, but I'm not even going to do that anymore. A biatch wants my money, she only gets that in person.



The subscription price is just to get in the door, which show you minimal content that they would of posted on twitter / instagram anyways. If you want the good stuff you have to buy them individually in addition to the subscription price.Yes, I found that out, too. It's bullshite.

I got onto the OF of a girl I'd been seeing, only to find out she'd been giving me far inferior head to what she'd done in the past. (It wasn't dt or ff, either, just enthusiastic use of the tongue, which was like pulling nails for me to get.) I asked her what's up with that. Silly biatch said she only does that for a boyfriend. B'Bye! She's turned the "quarantine 15" into 35 or 40, so that wasn't going to last, anyhow. Pre-quarantine, she was super-hot.

GeorgeBoyd
07-16-21, 22:30
Man, this whole region is complete shite for this hobby. Unless you're actually in the city of Chicago and are willing to drop like four hundred bucks, there is absolutely no talent out here at all. Nothing. No strip clubs anymore, no "freelancers", NADA. And don't get me started on the Asian agencies and massage parlors. How thirsty do you have to be to pay a hundred bucks to have some old pudgy grandma jerk you off. I could do that at home by myself, and I'd get off a lot quicker without some fat hag in the room, not to mention saving a hundred bucks.

For what some ugly 40-something crackhead wants to suck me off with a condom on in some shady motel, I can get a BBBJ from a Cuban model in the backroom of a FL strip club. You'd think the 3rd largest city in the United States would have better mid-range action. But inflation's a ***** so I guess mid-range now means 200 minimum.

Rant over.

ChgoGuySouth
07-17-21, 02:18
Man, this whole region is complete shite for this hobby. Unless you're actually in the city of Chicago and are willing to drop like four hundred bucks, there is absolutely no talent out here at all. Nothing. No strip clubs anymore, no "freelancers", NADA. And don't get me started on the Asian agencies and massage parlors. How thirsty do you have to be to pay a hundred bucks to have some old pudgy grandma jerk you off. I could do that at home by myself, and I'd get off a lot quicker without some fat hag in the room, not to mention saving a hundred bucks.

For what some ugly 40-something crackhead wants to suck me off with a condom on in some shady motel, I can get a BBBJ from a Cuban model in the backroom of a FL strip club. You'd think the 3rd largest city in the United States would have better mid-range action. But inflation's a ***** so I guess mid-range now means 200 minimum.

Rant over.I agree, but once in awhile to me it's fun and funny having a grandma jerk me off.

HanginBalls
07-17-21, 05:32
I agree, but once in awhile to me it's fun and funny having a grandma jerk me off.Saggy tits with long nipples. A pussy that can accommodate a larger organ. What's their not to love?

GeorgeBoyd
07-17-21, 14:27
I agree, but once in awhile to me it's fun and funny having a grandma jerk me off.You've got some problems, son.

BeechNut79
07-17-21, 15:21
Saggy tits with long nipples. A pussy that can accommodate a larger organ. What's their not to love?Just signed on as a member and would like to know how to create a new post.

Wenger
07-18-21, 07:39
I agree, but once in awhile to me it's fun and funny having a grandma jerk me off.


Saggy tits with long nipples. A pussy that can accommodate a larger organ. What's their not to love?

And when they take their teeth out for a gum job, oh my!

Ron M
07-18-21, 12:15
Super babes are cute and fun. But every now and then it's nice to see an older lady for a change of pace.

Chicago41
07-18-21, 15:02
Just signed on as a member and would like to know how to create a new post.Up at the top of the page click on "Add Report".

RichL1234
07-18-21, 15:18
Super babes are cute and fun. But every now and then it's nice to see an older lady for a change of pace.Super babes are great but outrageously priced.

At least the grannies are keeping it real with their pricing.

Ron M
07-18-21, 17:30
Super babes are great but outrageously priced.

At least the grannies are keeping it real with their pricing.True about the older ladies. Not always true about Super Babes.

BeechNut79
07-18-21, 18:34
And when they take their teeth out for a gum job, oh my!Where do you find these grannies. And do they accept plain old cash?

George Stark
07-18-21, 20:59
Just signed on as a member and would like to know how to create a new post.How did you create this one? 🤣.

George Stark
07-18-21, 21:13
Re: Grannies.

I've been with grandmothers. But I need them to *not* *look* like grannies. That's one thing about black girls / women. That "black don't crack" thing is for real, in many cases.

And that's not just a matter of mother and daughter each giving birth at 16 or some shit like that, either. Some of them are quite hot well into their 40s, maybe beyond.

SterlingPNess
07-19-21, 00:33
Ozone sucked, but they do have some talent. I'm hoping YMMV, but stay away from Lilly and be ready to negotiate. Gina has been good in the past, but there's a third with some cannons. Also, for newer folks to the hobby, never ever pay up front. Only hand over tips after the service is provided. I got a little rusty and got hosed.

LeeOskar
07-19-21, 01:03
How did you create this one? 🤣.He didn't create his. **He replied to an existing post.

BeechNut79
07-19-21, 09:32
A couple of evenings ago I emailed a particular provider whom I found over on the them site. We made arrangements to meet and everything seemed fine until she asked for a deposit before I could come to her. Needless to say I was livid, and she insisted that is the policy. This particular provider communicates by email only, no phone or even text. I promptly cancelled the date and inform her that I was recommending a boycott of all those who demand deposits as well as those who insist on being paid via gift cards. Stores and even escort sites themselves are warning us against these tactics which are almost always scams. A few weeks ago I actually went to a provider's hotel and upon texting her that I had arrived she replied that I had to send a deposit before she would give me room number. Needless to say, date did not happen. Deposit are said to provide some protections against no-shows. But what the heck, I travelled to her so she wasn't out anything.

Have been lurking around on Yes Backpage as well as a couple of other sites since the original BP went down. None of those on that site ever pick up the phone so we can hear their voices. All they do is text, and expect you're going to immediately drop whatever you've got going and let them come to you or you to them. I prefer to do things strictly on cash basis but they all seem to treat cash as poison. Tried a couple of other sites but no luck there either. What they are obviously doing is taking advantage of those of us who can't afford high end escorts who charge a minimum of 300/ hr.

Too bad the original version of BP got reckless because it was much better. The ladies did things on cash basis and you got to talk to them on the phone so you knew they were legit. So far on the alternate forums I haven't found a single one who would take cash at time of meeting. It's either deposit, gift cards or nothing. I was burned by this gift card thing just a few weeks ago and vowed not to let it happen again. They demand we forward the serial numbers. For fear that we are going to scam them? The one time I did it the supposed provider said to come back to the hotel. But when I did the number had been disconnected and I never got to meet up.

I am proposing a boycott against those who employ these kinds of tactics. Are you all in?

LuxiMudi
07-19-21, 10:06
I promptly cancelled the date and inform her that I was recommending a boycott of all those who demand deposits as well as those who insist on being paid via gift cards.I couldn't care less why a woman claims to need a deposit or a gift card. If she has no-shows, that's her problem, not mine. I would never send money in advance no matter what, even if I've seen the provider 10 times before. There are plenty of reputable providers who don't require them.

Ron M
07-19-21, 10:21
A couple of evenings ago I emailed a particular provider whom I found over on the them site. We made arrangements to meet and everything seemed fine until she asked for a deposit before I could come to her. Needless to say I was livid, and she insisted that is the policy. This particular provider communicates by email only, no phone or even text. I promptly cancelled the date and inform her that I was recommending a boycott of all those who demand deposits as well as those who insist on being paid via gift cards. Stores and even escort sites themselves are warning us against these tactics which are almost always scams. A few weeks ago I actually went to a provider's hotel and upon texting her that I had arrived she replied that I had to send a deposit before she would give me room number. Needless to say, date did not happen. Deposit are said to provide some protections against no-shows. But what the heck, I travelled to her so she wasn't out anything.

Have been lurking around on Yes Backpage as well as a couple of other sites since the original BP went down. None of those on that site ever pick up the phone so we can hear their voices. All they do is text, and expect you're going to immediately drop whatever you've got going and let them come to you or you to them. I prefer to do things strictly on cash basis but they all seem to treat cash as poison. Tried a couple of other sites but no luck there either. What they are obviously doing is taking advantage of those of us who can't afford high end escorts who charge a minimum of 300/ hr.

Too bad the original version of BP got reckless because it was much better. The ladies did things on cash basis and you got to talk to them on the phone so you knew they were legit. So far on the alternate forums I haven't found a single one who would take cash at time of meeting. It's either deposit, gift cards or nothing. I was burned by this gift card thing just a few weeks ago and vowed not to let it happen again. They demand we forward the serial numbers. For fear that we are going to scam them? The one time I did it the supposed provider said to come back to the hotel. But when I did the number had been disconnected and I never got to meet up.

I am proposing a boycott against those who employ these kinds of tactics. Are you all in?If a girl doesn't accept Cash as payment I avoid. Gift cards, Cash apps, Pay Pal are ways to get your money to her for no sex. I will never pay Cash upfront ever again after my first and only rip off. She wants full payment in Cash upfront I walk out.

DMichaels69
07-19-21, 10:44
I pretty much am all AMP's but a few years back I dabbled in CL and BP. I guess I got lucky because I never had an issue with having to pay upfront. Now I too see a lot of ad's with cash app, zelle, or gift cards for payment which I would never do. Too many scammers out there. In the end we are the customer so they should be catering to that. Sadly even with AMP's its mostly money grubbers and begging for tips. Bottom line is your the customer and if your not comfortable, walk away.


A couple of evenings ago I emailed a particular provider whom I found over on the them site. We made arrangements to meet and everything seemed fine until she asked for a deposit before I could come to her. Needless to say I was livid, and she insisted that is the policy. This particular provider communicates by email only, no phone or even text. I promptly cancelled the date and inform her that I was recommending a boycott of all those who demand deposits as well as those who insist on being paid via gift cards. Stores and even escort sites themselves are warning us against these tactics which are almost always scams. A few weeks ago I actually went to a provider's hotel and upon texting her that I had arrived she replied that I had to send a deposit before she would give me room number. Needless to say, date did not happen. Deposit are said to provide some protections against no-shows. But what the heck, I travelled to her so she wasn't out anything.

Have been lurking around on Yes Backpage as well as a couple of other sites since the original BP went down. None of those on that site ever pick up the phone so we can hear their voices. All they do is text, and expect you're going to immediately drop whatever you've got going and let them come to you or you to them. I prefer to do things strictly on cash basis but they all seem to treat cash as poison. Tried a couple of other sites but no luck there either. What they are obviously doing is taking advantage of those of us who can't afford high end escorts who charge a minimum of 300/ hr.

Too bad the original version of BP got reckless because it was much better. The ladies did things on cash basis and you got to talk to them on the phone so you knew they were legit. So far on the alternate forums I haven't found a single one who would take cash at time of meeting. It's either deposit, gift cards or nothing. I was burned by this gift card thing just a few weeks ago and vowed not to let it happen again. They demand we forward the serial numbers. For fear that we are going to scam them? The one time I did it the supposed provider said to come back to the hotel. But when I did the number had been disconnected and I never got to meet up.

I am proposing a boycott against those who employ these kinds of tactics. Are you all in?


I couldn't care less why a woman claims to need a deposit or a gift card. If she has no-shows, that's her problem, not mine. I would never send money in advance no matter what, even if I've seen the provider 10 times before. There are plenty of reputable providers who don't require them.


If a girl doesn't accept Cash as payment I avoid. Gift cards, Cash apps, Pay Pal are ways to get your money to her for no sex. I will never pay Cash upfront ever again after my first and only rip off. She wants full payment in Cash upfront I walk out.

LongDStyle
07-19-21, 11:43
I couldn't care less why a woman claims to need a deposit or a gift card. If she has no-shows, that's her problem, not mine. I would never send money in advance no matter what, even if I've seen the provider 10 times before. There are plenty of reputable providers who don't require them.This was always my logic. I've encountered ads that wanted deposits even in the BP days but I never sent one because I didn't do zelle, PayPal or cash app and I sure wasn't going to make an extra stop at a currency exchange. Just less hassle to deal with someone who accepts cash. But even before knowing for sure it was a scam I dealt with so many no shows with no deposits involved I figured it wasn't worth the risk. I've given my location enough to girls that ghosted me that the thought of giving them money up front is laughable. As said before you have NO recourse.

BeechNut79
07-19-21, 11:43
Ozone sucked, but they do have some talent. I'm hoping YMMV, but stay away from Lilly and be ready to negotiate. Gina has been good in the past, but there's a third with some cannons. Also, for newer folks to the hobby, never ever pay up front. Only hand over tips after the service is provided. I got a little rusty and got hosed.I believe that is the one on Chicago and Western I was going to stop at last night but got there too near closing and decided I would be better served by going earlier in the day. Do they insist on upfront payment?

DWaits
07-19-21, 13:38
I've given my location enough to girls that ghosted me that the thought of giving them money up front is laughable. As said before you have NO recourse.This would be the response. Look, I get it, you've been ghosted. But that's your problem with those guys. I've been ghosted, too. So maybe you should pay me a deposit. Or we call it even. Nobody pays a deposit and we both agree to show up at the time and place we agree upon.

LongDStyle
07-19-21, 15:33
Have been lurking around on Yes Backpage as well as a couple of other sites since the original BP went down. None of those on that site ever pick up the phone so we can hear their voices. All they do is text, and expect you're going to immediately drop whatever you've got going and let them come to you or you to them. I prefer to do things strictly on cash basis but they all seem to treat cash as poison. Tried a couple of other sites but no luck there either. What they are obviously doing is taking advantage of those of us who can't afford high end escorts who charge a minimum of 300/ hr.
I once used yesbackpage, xbackpage and ibackpage. Seems every now and then I'd find a real poster, but I can't recall any success on those. Seems all the ads now are scams, fakes, catfishes or thieves.

BeechNut79
07-19-21, 17:12
This was always my logic. I've encountered ads that wanted deposits even in the BP days but I never sent one because I didn't do zelle, PayPal or cash app and I sure wasn't going to make an extra stop at a currency exchange. Just less hassle to deal with someone who accepts cash. But even before knowing for sure it was a scam I dealt with so many no shows with no deposits involved I figured it wasn't worth the risk. I've given my location enough to girls that ghosted me that the thought of giving them money up front is laughable. As said before you have NO recourse.But unless they really felt in danger for any reason it makes no sense for them not to show as they are losing money. And yet they complain about us being no shows. Would love to see some thoughts as to why nearly no escorts communicate by phone. If we could hear their voices we would know they are real and not fakes.

BeechNut79
07-19-21, 22:33
This is something long overdue here. I have had no luck lately in finding an escort who will take cas, especially one who will do so without an advance deposit. I have urged everyone to boycott those who want deposits and / or gift cards. Who might be some of the ones who don't operate this way?

HanginBalls
07-19-21, 22:43
Re: Grannies.

I've been with grandmothers. But I need them to *not* *look* like grannies. That's one thing about black girls / women. That "black don't crack" thing is for real, in many cases.Most everybody would take a white granny any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

BeechNut79
07-19-21, 22:54
Another topic long overdue for discussion. Have you ever noticed how they seem to be making all the rules when in fact we should be making them since we are the ones hiring them. So many definitely possess a "my way or the highway" attitude. Not only that, but on many of the websites they specify that they only want to be contacted when ready to hookup and those who don't obey will be blocked. Who really would want to deal with such mean spirited actions? Most act like we are their boss when it should be the other way around.

LuxiMudi
07-20-21, 08:10
I have had no luck lately in finding an escort who will take cash, especially one who will do so without an advance deposit.Where are you looking? Stick to providers that have been reviewed here and / or on TER, or agency girls. All the Chicago agencies take cash and don't require deposits.

ThroatSeek77
07-22-21, 11:42
Where are you looking? Stick to providers that have been reviewed here and / or on TER, or agency girls. All the Chicago agencies take cash and don't require deposits.I've almost never seen reviewed girls and I've never paid a deposit nor would I. But it's been a hugely trending thing for girls to ask for them. I mostly use listcrawlers and on there the rule of thumb is they only ask for a deposit for outcalls, but I avoid pitfalls, and if I was to do an outcall, which I have before, it's not with one that's asking for deposits. The games rough all around. Good time for any man to retire from this shit.

LongDStyle
07-22-21, 22:28
It's been awhile but I've reported in the past about providers who ask for addresses and don't show up. I had this happen recently but it was brought to my attention by another monger that it may be more that meets the eye. I had a provider ask for my address. I always give out a nearby one just in case the unknown happens. I told her the city I was in which is small and at that point she should know if I'm too far. After agreeing on details she asks or the address and goes completely ghost. I get a text recently stating they are offering incalls. The point of caution is that I wouldn't see a provider for the first time if she's aware where I live. Could turn into a robbery while your gone (they know where you are if you're with the girl) or even a blackmail scheme. Just think, would you visit a provider if she demanded to know your address before meeting at her location?

Mr Roberts
07-22-21, 23:42
But unless they really felt in danger for any reason it makes no sense for them not to show as they are losing money. And yet they complain about us being no shows. They could earn the full fee by showing up and providing the service, of course. But they can "earn" the deposit by doing nothing more than sending some texts. Depending on how you look at it, that's not exactly "losing money. ".


Would love to see some thoughts as to why nearly no escorts communicate by phone. If we could hear their voices we would know they are real and not fakes.Texting is easy. Easier to keep multiple conversations going at any given time, and more importantly, in darn near any situation. Sitting on the bus / train within earshot of a dozen people? Sitting on the stoop cause it's hot outside and the neighbour might walk by at any moment? Probably not going to answer (or return) that call, but no one gives a second glance to someone typing away on their phone.

George Stark
07-23-21, 05:25
This is something long overdue here. I have had no luck lately in finding an escort who will take cas, especially one who will do so without an advance deposit. I have urged everyone to boycott those who want deposits and / or gift cards. Who might be some of the ones who don't operate this way?I only do incalls. I've mainly used LC girls, I've had *one* ask for money up front to "hold" an appointment (I of course said no). I've never seen personally, or seen ads for, a girl that wouldn't take cash.

There was one that always wanted me (and everyone else) to send her a *picture* of the cash before she'd give her address.

Jay117
07-23-21, 06:04
This is something long overdue here. I have had no luck lately in finding an escort who will take cas, especially one who will do so without an advance deposit. I have urged everyone to boycott those who want deposits and / or gift cards. Who might be some of the ones who don't operate this way?Never heard of anyone who wouldn't take cash. Gift card is an indication of a scam.

I think there a lot more scams and fakes now than there were 5 years ago.

GiveMeLiberty
07-23-21, 15:53
This is something long overdue here. I have had no luck lately in finding an escort who will take cas, especially one who will do so without an advance deposit. I have urged everyone to boycott those who want deposits and / or gift cards. Who might be some of the ones who don't operate this way?Until mongers stop paying deposits, providers will continue to get away with this scam. I never have paid a deposit and never will.

DMichaels69
07-23-21, 16:30
Right on again!!


Until mongers stop paying deposits, providers wnnill continue to get away with this scam. I never have paid a deposit and never will.

Deep Subman
08-15-21, 15:33
On the website the ladies list their services, like DATY, BBBJ, Anal, etc. , who knows what porn star experience would mean? PM me if you like.

HenryA77
08-15-21, 16:29
On the website the ladies list their services, like DATY, BBBJ, Anal, etc. , who knows what porn star experience would mean? PM me if you like.It usually means they act wild, moaning loudly and such, not kissing and acting nice and demur (that is GFE). Of course, that also varies by the girl, too. I would not put much store by it.

Deep Subman
08-15-21, 16:49
It usually means they act wild, moaning loudly and such, not kissing and acting nice and demur (that is GFE). Of course, that also varies by the girl, too. I would not put much store by it.Thought maybe it meant bareback, anyone ever asked a provider what it meant?

LuxiMudi
08-15-21, 17:00
On the website the ladies list their services, like DATY, BBBJ, Anal, etc. , who knows what porn star experience would mean? PM me if you like.Depends on the girl. For some it means anal, for some it means BBFS, for some it literally means more porn-like (I. E. Throatfucking / hair-pulling / etc.).

Either ask her or (ideally) see what her previous reviews say.

Fdottt
08-15-21, 22:02
It's been awhile but I've reported in the past about providers who ask for addresses and don't show up. I had this happen recently but it was brought to my attention by another monger that it may be more that meets the eye. I had a provider ask for my address. I always give out a nearby one just in case the unknown happens. I told her the city I was in which is small and at that point she should know if I'm too far. After agreeing on details she asks or the address and goes completely ghost. I get a text recently stating they are offering incalls. The point of caution is that I wouldn't see a provider for the first time if she's aware where I live. Could turn into a robbery while your gone (they know where you are if you're with the girl) or even a blackmail scheme. Just think, would you visit a provider if she demanded to know your address before meeting at her location?You're saying providers out there are asking for your address when you're going to meet them? That doesn't make sense. Why even entertain that shit?

Nelson Muntz
08-15-21, 23:04
Thought maybe it meant bareback, anyone ever asked a provider what it meant?I was told it meant that they act like a porn star. I have found that still depends on the girl. What you doing over here Sub?

Jinurso
08-15-21, 23:51
Thought maybe it meant bareback, anyone ever asked a provider what it meant?Sometimes it does, but not often. Most of the time it means nothing more than an attempt to drum up more interest, when it does mean something it's often acting like a porn star with all the dirty talk and sloppy BJs, sometimes (if there's an extra charge for it) it means Greek.

Bareback can take many forms. Sometimes PSE implies it, sometimes "fetish", sometimes "open minded", sometimes "ultra" or "ultimate" or "all natural", sometimes GFE+ and sometimes VIP. And sometimes they don't mention it at all in their ad.

Moejoo
08-16-21, 09:18
I think every girl has their own idea on what PSE means. I would not upgrade for it without her being rather specific about what she offers.

Bishop69
08-19-21, 16:50
Well gentlemen it looks like according to Bloomberg that OF is getting out of the porn biz. It's being reported that they will be banning sexually explicit content in Oct, so you'll see a lot more girls hustling IG and SC and posting on your favorite list site, this is definitely going to affect prices because many will loss a significant portion of income, so let's hope this move many back to the streets and helps increase availability because they're going to have to actually earn their keep.

FirstTimer7
08-19-21, 19:33
Well gentlemen it looks like according to Bloomberg that OF is getting out of the porn biz. It's being reported that they will be banning sexually explicit content in Oct, so you'll see a lot more girls hustling IG and SC and posting on your favorite list site, this is definitely going to affect prices because many will loss a significant portion of income, so let's hope this move many back to the streets and helps increase availability because they're going to have to actually earn their keep.I hope so too but there's another website that is very similar to OF. Most likely they just migrate over.

DrPepper2976
08-19-21, 20:08
I hope so too but there's another website that is very similar to OF. Most likely they just migrate over.Ugh, I hope no migration, the well has felt drier because of this and Covid.

Kda Kodiac
08-21-21, 14:50
This has been in the back of my "curious" mind so I thought I would pose the question. When you are going to connect with a provider / MP do you normally call or text. It is obvious for the gals who specifically request. I am talking about the vast majority. You can either respond her or PM if the spirit moves you.

Chicago41
08-21-21, 15:06
This has been in the back of my "curious" mind so I thought I would pose the question. When you are going to connect with a provider / MP do you normally call or text. It is obvious for the gals who specifically request. I am talking about the vast majority. You can either respond her or PM if the spirit moves you.I never call anyone and don't see women who insist on clients calling them, unless it's to get final directions to a room. Even then I'm not a big fan. My hearing isn't the greatest to begin with so sitting on the phone trying to get detailed instructions and try to remember it all sucks, even worse when it's from a non-native speaker. Texts or emails are better.

TJGeek
08-21-21, 15:24
This has been in the back of my "curious" mind so I thought I would pose the question. When you are going to connect with a provider / MP do you normally call or text. It is obvious for the gals who specifically request. I am talking about the vast majority. You can either respond her or PM if the spirit moves you.Usually if I call, they don't pick up and text back. Then keep texting.

Harlock
08-22-21, 01:10
Interested in this ad. Does anyone know if she is legit? https://carfun.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/66001521.

Jimmy007
08-22-21, 19:16
Would like to hear if anyone visited:

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/66035442

FirstTimer7
08-25-21, 20:17
Ugh, I hope no migration, the well has felt drier because of this and Covid.Seems like the well is going to continue to be dry, OF is back in the porn business.

Moss734
08-27-21, 12:32
Been away from Chicago for a few years and now back. I used to see "bike room Stacy", does anybody still have contact with her? PM me if you do please, thanks.

JolieThornDog
08-28-21, 10:04
If you have just a little game, there is definitely some things to be found in the bars in and around Naperville. Especially couples.Downtown bars or those on "outskirts"?

Moejoo
09-02-21, 10:22
https://chicago.rubratings.com/242763 Has anyone seen her? Phone number check shows up a couple of other ads and 2 reviews on another site. Both reviews say the pics are her but with varying results from the massage.

AssMann82
09-02-21, 12:51
Been away from Chicago for a few years and now back. I used to see "bike room Stacy", does anybody still have contact with her? PM me if you do please, thanks.I wish, she was my go to for years.

GWheaton
09-02-21, 14:02
https://chicago.rubratings.com/242763 Has anyone seen her? Phone number check shows up a couple of other ads and 2 reviews on another site. Both reviews say the pics are her but with varying results from the massage.The pics are real. I saw her at Marianos in the South Loop one time. Gorgeous girl. Service is bad. Maybe a handjob and no access to those amazing titles at all. Not worth the money.

Pau Ford
09-02-21, 16:33
Think she used to run a different ad / pics for some time. MO was similar, guys showed up because she's hot but left with blue balls. She's married with a kid. She's on SA too. Maybe she only gives it up for the dudes with deep pockets?


https://chicago.rubratings.com/242763 Has anyone seen her? Phone number check shows up a couple of other ads and 2 reviews on another site. Both reviews say the pics are her but with varying results from the massage.


The pics are real. I saw her at Marianos in the South Loop one time. Gorgeous girl. Service is bad. Maybe a handjob and no access to those amazing titles at all. Not worth the money.

Dolemitochondr
09-13-21, 20:31
Is it a BMI / height / weight thing, or does she need to have flat stomach? Skinny limbs?

Can a spinner be slightly chubby? Or are we talking about anorexic Kate Moss?

Ron M
09-13-21, 21:43
Is it a BMI / height / weight thing, or does she need to have flat stomach? Skinny limbs?

Can a spinner be slightly chubby? Or are we talking about anorexic Kate Moss?It's subjective. What's considered a Spinner to one is a bit heavier to another. I'd say generally a Spinner is a girl that her height is equal or there about to her weight.

TJGeek
09-13-21, 21:51
Is it a BMI / height / weight thing, or does she need to have flat stomach? Skinny limbs?

Can a spinner be slightly chubby? Or are we talking about anorexic Kate Moss?I think its a visual definition. If she is riding you, and you give her a push causing her to spin on the axis of your shaft, then she is a spinner. Not sure if the number of rotations or angular velocity play into the definition. So if your rod is well lubricated and you have enough force, even a curvy lady could qualify. I think shorter limbs would make it easier.

RichL1234
09-13-21, 21:59
Is it a BMI / height / weight thing, or does she need to have flat stomach? Skinny limbs?

Can a spinner be slightly chubby? Or are we talking about anorexic Kate Moss?If you have to ask. Its not your type. Typically its a gymnast body type.

Jinurso
09-14-21, 00:00
Is it a BMI / height / weight thing, or does she need to have flat stomach? Skinny limbs?

Can a spinner be slightly chubby? Or are we talking about anorexic Kate Moss?I know there's a poster here who is something of a "single issue voter" and has very specific age / height / weight / build requirements and will chide anybody whose definition of attractive deviates at all from that. Most people aren't quite that rigid.

If we are going by the historical definition of the word it's any woman nimble enough to easily spin around on your cock while it's in her. Most of the women who can do that are compact and light.

If a girl looks like she can do that she's a spinner.

ApplePiePussy
09-14-21, 00:33
Is it a BMI / height / weight thing, or does she need to have flat stomach? Skinny limbs?

Can a spinner be slightly chubby? Or are we talking about anorexic Kate Moss?Short, skinny, maybe 95 pounds.

Tinley708
09-14-21, 07:48
Short, skinny, maybe 95 pounds.Do we really have to live with a hard and fast definition here? "My" spinner is someone short and light enough that I can hold her up and fuck her against a wall, or wrap her legs around my neck and go down on her while she is upside down going down on me, or I can pick up and move anywhere and any position on the bed easily. Small, but not anorexic. Trim, smaller tits without implants.

I accept that you might be Republican, Democrat, or Libertarian. I don't care that we all have different ideas, as long as we respect others and don't try to impose our thinking on everyone else. Doesn't make you wrong, even though I might see it differently. I accept that "your" spinner might be different than mine. To me, it is all about the experience. With that said, it is a good idea to have some sense of common calibration when writing ratings that others might want to use as references.

Yea, I get philosophical once in awhile. Not enough out there at a reasonable rate to keep me fully entertained any more.

NitroPimp
09-14-21, 08:40
I think its a visual definition. If she is riding you, and you give her a push causing her to spin on the axis of your shaft, then she is a spinner. Not sure if the number of rotations or angular velocity play into the definition. So if your rod is well lubricated and you have enough force, even a curvy lady could qualify. I think shorter limbs would make it easier.I like the idea of one of those hanging basket chairs with the Gaps signing up with her orifices. Adjust the height just right and give her a spin! If the hanging rope had some elasticity you could really have some fun bouncing up and down and spinning!

Fchck645
09-14-21, 09:20
Think she used to run a different ad / pics for some time. MO was similar, guys showed up because she's hot but left with blue balls. She's married with a kid. She's on SA too. Maybe she only gives it up for the dudes with deep pockets?Pics are her. Closer to Marianos. No roaming. Fully covered. No tugs. Massage isn't good either. Won't recommend.

TJGeek
09-14-21, 09:53
Do we really have to live with a hard and fast definition here? "My" spinner is someone short and light enough that I can hold her up and fuck her against a wall, or wrap her legs around my neck and go down on her while she is upside down going down on me, or I can pick up and move anywhere and any position on the bed easily. Small, but not anorexic. Trim, smaller tits without implants.

With all due respect, the first example you described would fall into the category of "Waller", while the second would be a "Standing 69 er". Except for those in wheelchairs, most any lady can be a "Waller", even the BBW, as long as your wall is built to code. But, very few can be be a "Standing 69 er" as it requires some flexibility, stamina, and low mass (depending on your own height, weight, and strength). As for picking them up and throwing them around the bed, I call them "Pillows" for obvious reasons. The more throw pillows in a bed, the better, right? But none of the scenarios you described actually involve a spin, unless you are spinning the "Pillow" around the bed, or perhaps spinning yourself with a "Standing 69 er" - which may be unsafe if you lose balance and tip over?

I guess another "Spinner" could be the luck lady who is getting it doggy style at one end and giving head at the other end (visualize a "Spit Roast" and the guys at each end are erect enough to give her a spin like you would a spit roast over a fire. If you can do that, and the 2 guys at each end high-five each other, then you have a "Spinner in the Eiffel Tower". If this forum allowed for videos, I would post examples of each for you to enjoy.

I hope this leaves you with some good visuals to try out and thanks for listening to my TED Talk!

TJGeek
09-14-21, 11:35
Do we really have to live with a hard and fast definition here? "My" spinner is someone short and light enough that I can hold her up and fuck her against a wall, or wrap her legs around my neck and go down on her while she is upside down going down on me, or I can pick up and move anywhere and any position on the bed easily. Small, but not anorexic. Trim, smaller tits without implants.

I accept that you might be Republican, Democrat, or Libertarian. I don't care that we all have different ideas, as long as we respect others and don't try to impose our thinking on everyone else. Doesn't make you wrong, even though I might see it differently. I accept that "your" spinner might be different than mine. To me, it is all about the experience. With that said, it is a good idea to have some sense of common calibration when writing ratings that others might want to use as references.

Yea, I get philosophical once in awhile. Not enough out there at a reasonable rate to keep me fully entertained any more.Do we really have to live with a hard and fast definition here? "My" spinner is someone short and light enough that I can hold her up and fuck her against a wall, or wrap her legs around my neck and go down on her while she is upside down going down on me, or I can pick up and move anywhere and any position on the bed easily. Small, but not anorexic. Trim, smaller tits without implants.

With all due respect, the first example you described would fall into the category of "Waller", while the second would be a "Standing 69 er". Except for those in wheelchairs, most any lady can be a "Waller", even the BBW, as long as your wall is built to code. But, very few can be be a "Standing 69 er" as it requires some flexibility, stamina, and low mass (depending on your own height, weight, and strength). As for picking them up and throwing them around the bed, I call them "Pillows" for obvious reasons. The more throw pillows in a bed, the better, right? But none of the scenarios you described actually involve a spin, unless you are spinning the "Pillow" around the bed, or perhaps spinning yourself with a "Standing 69 er" - which may be unsafe if you lose balance and tip over?

I guess another "Spinner" could be the luck lady who is getting it doggy style at one end and giving head at the other end (visualize a "Spit Roast" and the guys at each end are erect enough to give her a spin like you would a spit roast over a fire. If you can do that, and the 2 guys at each end high-five each other, then you have a "Spinner in the Eiffel Tower". If this forum allowed for videos, I would post examples of each for you to enjoy.

I hope this leaves you with some good visuals to try out and thanks for listening to my TED Talk!

Head First
09-14-21, 13:33
Do we really have to live with a hard and fast definition here? "My" spinner is someone short and light enough that I can hold her up and fuck her against a wall, or wrap her legs around my neck and go down on her while she is upside down going down on me, or I can pick up and move anywhere and any position on the bed easily. Small, but not anorexic. Trim, smaller tits without implants.

With all due respect, the first example you described would fall into the category of "Waller", while the second would be a "Standing 69 er". Except for those in wheelchairs, most any lady can be a "Waller", even the BBW, as long as your wall is built to code. But, very few can be be a "Standing 69 er" as it requires some flexibility, stamina, and low mass (depending on your own height, weight, and strength). As for picking them up and throwing them around the bed, I call them "Pillows" for obvious reasons. The more throw pillows in a bed, the better, right? But none of the scenarios you described actually involve a spin, unless you are spinning the "Pillow" around the bed, or perhaps spinning yourself with a "Standing 69 er" - which may be unsafe if you lose balance and tip over?

I guess another "Spinner" could be the luck lady who is getting it doggy style at one end and giving head at the other end (visualize a "Spit Roast" and the guys at each end are erect enough to give her a spin like you would a spit roast over a fire. If you can do that, and the 2 guys at each end high-five each other, then you have a "Spinner in the Eiffel Tower". If this forum allowed for videos, I would post examples of each for you to enjoy.

I hope this leaves you with some good visuals to try out and thanks for listening to my TED Talk!If this forum had a like button I'd be hitting it. Nevever heard 'Spinner in the Eiffel Tower' before but now I know. That's hilarious! Great post.

Admin2/ Jackson - "If this forum allowed for videos, I would post examples of each for you to enjoy". Is this anything you would consider? Imagine the traffic it might generate.

Jinurso
09-14-21, 14:42
I've never heard the terms pillows or wallers or standing69 ers used to describe a woman. Are these your terms or actual terms with widespread recognition? I don't watch much porn so I may not be up on all of the lingo.

I try to keep things simple. If a girl is petite enough for the average guy to toss around and do fairly acrobatic things with, I call her a spinner. Most girls I think of as spinners can do all of the things you mentioned, so I don't think I need that many more labels for what's more of a body type than an activity.


Do we really have to live with a hard and fast definition here? "My" spinner is someone short and light enough that I can hold her up and fuck her against a wall, or wrap her legs around my neck and go down on her while she is upside down going down on me, or I can pick up and move anywhere and any position on the bed easily. Small, but not anorexic. Trim, smaller tits without implants.

With all due respect, the first example you described would fall into the category of "Waller", while the second would be a "Standing 69 er". Except for those in wheelchairs, most any lady can be a "Waller", even the BBW, as long as your wall is built to code. But, very few can be be a "Standing 69 er" as it requires some flexibility, stamina, and low mass (depending on your own height, weight, and strength). As for picking them up and throwing them around the bed, I call them "Pillows" for obvious reasons. The more throw pillows in a bed, the better, right? But none of the scenarios you described actually involve a spin, unless you are spinning the "Pillow" around the bed, or perhaps spinning yourself with a "Standing 69 er" - which may be unsafe if you lose balance and tip over?

I guess another "Spinner" could be the luck lady who is getting it doggy style at one end and giving head at the other end (visualize a "Spit Roast" and the guys at each end are erect enough to give her a spin like you would a spit roast over a fire. If you can do that, and the 2 guys at each end high-five each other, then you have a "Spinner in the Eiffel Tower". If this forum allowed for videos, I would post examples of each for you to enjoy.

I hope this leaves you with some good visuals to try out and thanks for listening to my TED Talk!

TJGeek
09-14-21, 15:07
I've never heard the terms pillows or wallers or standing69 ers used to describe a woman. Are these your terms or actual terms with widespread recognition? I don't watch much porn so I may not be up on all of the lingo.

I try to keep things simple. If a girl is petite enough for the average guy to toss around and do fairly acrobatic things with, I call her a spinner. Most girls I think of as spinners can do all of the things you mentioned, so I don't think I need that many more labels for what's more of a body type than an activity.The terms I introduced were created purely for entertainment value for those of us debating what a spinner is. They need not enter the lexicon of this forum as it will just take up more Admin's time having to read our debates about it.

However, the Eiffel Tower is real and I've seen it myself, not in Paris, but in a Swingers Club in Dallas a few years ago.

Tinley708
09-14-21, 15:30
I've never heard the terms pillows or wallers or standing69 ers used to describe a woman. Are these your terms or actual terms with widespread recognition? I don't watch much porn so I may not be up on all of the lingo.

I try to keep things simple. If a girl is petite enough for the average guy to toss around and do fairly acrobatic things with, I call her a spinner. Most girls I think of as spinners can do all of the things you mentioned, so I don't think I need that many more labels for what's more of a body type than an activity.My head is spinning!

FelterSnatch58
09-14-21, 17:08
I've never heard the terms pillows or wallers or standing69 ers used to describe a woman. Are these your terms or actual terms with widespread recognition? I don't watch much porn so I may not be up on all of the lingo.

I try to keep things simple. If a girl is petite enough for the average guy to toss around and do fairly acrobatic things with, I call her a spinner. Most girls I think of as spinners can do all of the things you mentioned, so I don't think I need that many more labels for what's more of a body type than an activity.What, What? Come on mates, pull up your knickers and get on the toob for a couple of pints before the my fooking chips get cold ahh?

Tela1980
09-14-21, 22:36
Short, skinny, maybe 95 pounds.IMO. Under 105 lbs and Shorter than 5'2.

GordyMaze
09-20-21, 14:49
I just moved back from living abroad where this was legal and looking to get in the game here. Looking for some help so I don't start off on the wrong foot.

I don't have any high expectations. Any race, 5/10 is OK my only requirement is a GFE with DFK, not transactional (I guess that's the definition of GFE) and preferably BBBJ. I'm looking to treat a girl well and have her treat me well in return.

Here are my issues:

1) What sites are popular in Chicago? Preferably with reviews.

2) I'm looking to be at around $$/ hr but when I look, I'm either finding way below that (which scares me. Is she cray, drugs etc) or $$.

I feel like this is harder than it should be, but as I can see from some of the recent threads, my timing couldn't be worse.

Not asking for connects (though would love to have someone throw me a bone), instead hoping someone will be willing to teach me to fish and I can return something back to the community.

PM is OK too.

Nduchali
09-20-21, 18:00
What sites are popular in Chicago? Preferably with reviews.TER is very active for Chicago.


I'm looking to be at around $$/ hr but when I look, I'm either finding way below that (which scares me. Is she cray, drugs etc) or $$.Could you write out the numbers? The forum deletes dollar signs.

LeeOskar
09-20-21, 20:24
TER is very active for Chicago.

Could you write out the numbers? The forum deletes dollar signs.It shows 2 $$ for me, so I'm guessing 200.

GordyMaze
09-20-21, 20:40
It shows 2 $$ for me, so I'm guessing 200.I meant I'm looking to be around 200 but looks like most are 300+.

DWaits
09-20-21, 20:43
It shows 2 $$ for me, so I'm guessing 200.While there are going to be scammers on Tryst as well, most of the stable GFE providers will advertise there and you can find reviews here and on TER. 200 is not going to get you an hour with a good GFE provider. 300 seems closer to the normal bottom range for an hour. And I suggest an hour if you really want a GFE experience where you are spending some time with her body. I would use Tryst, pick out the top choices, then come back here and use the search function for her name and do the same with TER. Although if you are not premium with them, you will only be able to see previews, which often don't say much.

DrPepper2976
09-20-21, 21:38
While there are going to be scammers on Tryst as well, most of the stable GFE providers will advertise there and you can find reviews here and on TER. 200 is not going to get you an hour with a good GFE provider. 300 seems closer to the normal bottom range for an hour. And I suggest an hour if you really want a GFE experience where you are spending some time with her body. I would use Tryst, pick out the top choices, then come back here and use the search function for her name and do the same with TER. Although if you are not premium with them, you will only be able to see previews, which often don't say much.What he said, tryst is more trustworthy because the escorts have to be verified as actual providers and allow for hobbyist feedback to the admins to report false profiles (which they do listen to.).

Of course you can also check the other site for reviews.

FirstTimer7
09-20-21, 22:53
It shows 2 $$ for me, so I'm guessing 200.Its showing 2 for everyone. If he was trying to show 5, it truncates to only 2. I don't get why you have to use $ sign in the first place.

Jc2490
09-21-21, 01:38
I just moved back from living abroad where this was legal and looking to get in the game here. Looking for some help so I don't start off on the wrong foot.

I don't have any high expectations. Any race, 5/10 is OK my only requirement is a GFE with DFK, not transactional (I guess that's the definition of GFE) and preferably BBBJ. I'm looking to treat a girl well and have her treat me well in return.

Here are my issues:

1) What sites are popular in Chicago? Preferably with reviews.

2) I'm looking to be at around $$/ hr but when I look, I'm either finding way below that (which scares me. Is she cray, drugs etc) or $$.

I feel like this is harder than it should be, but as I can see from some of the recent threads, my timing couldn't be worse.

Not asking for connects (though would love to have someone throw me a bone), instead hoping someone will be willing to teach me to fish and I can return something back to the community.

PM is OK too.You did not specify which part of town you are living in. I live up north, not too far from the WI border. If you don't mind taking a ride to Milwaukee, the price of nice quality pussy is a lot lowere than it is in Chicago.

LeeOskar
09-21-21, 09:33
Its showing 2 for everyone. If he was trying to show 5, it truncates to only 2. I don't get why you have to use $ sign in the first place.It won't show any more than 2.

GordyMaze
09-22-21, 14:19
You did not specify which part of town you are living in. I live up north, not too far from the WI border. If you don't mind taking a ride to Milwaukee, the price of nice quality pussy is a lot lowere than it is in Chicago.Thank you for that input. Do you have any different advice for Milwaukee? I'm in the NW burbs so not much of an extra drive.

For the broader crowd.

Any advice on sites like STG, listcrawler, or erotic monkey and the like? This is where I see a lot of girls either above or far below my price. Or are these sites too iffy? Or do I just need to pay my dues to learn to cull through these sites?

Hard to adjust to this pricing as it's pretty easy to find 100 euro / hr all over Europe and I feel like I see a lot of agency girls who are stunners at 350. It is what it is.

Thank you all for your feedback. Sorry for the $. That's what I was seeing in the escorts section of the forum.

George Stark
09-22-21, 15:01
It won't show any more than 2.Someone has mercilessly fucked with the sofware of this forum. There are all sorts of stupid shit it does to arbitrarily edit your text for you. I've never seen anything like it anywhere else, and I've been on abunch of forums. I'm not even talking about certain words being replaced with stars, there's all sorts of other shit that makes no sense at all.

LeeOskar
09-22-21, 16:01
Someone has mercilessly fucked with the sofware of this forum. There are all sorts of stupid shit it does to arbitrarily edit your text for you. I've never seen anything like it anywhere else, and I've been on abunch of forums. I'm not even talking about certain words being replaced with stars, there's all sorts of other shit that makes no sense at all.My favorite is you can't abbreviate years old with why slash o. It posts as why / o.
edit - the "y" is the issue.

StanleyStankas
09-22-21, 19:10
My favorite is you can't abbreviate years old with why slash o. It posts as why / o.
edit - the "y" is the issue.No blank!! Noticed that myself. I try to self edit with * etc, however certain things come up and I am like WTF did I do? It wasn't even a swear word so just laughing now that others are bringing it up.

DomCorazon
10-23-21, 12:28
Reading reviews on TER. Soxfan1984, are you on USG?

Ron M
10-26-21, 18:17
Anyone have or know of a location to host a GB? Looking to set this up in November.

FnlvnGuy
10-27-21, 11:22
Anyone have or know of a location to host a GB? Looking to set this up in November.Get an Airbnb house.

Ron M
10-27-21, 18:19
Get an Airbnb house.Great idea. Cost is too much for just a few hours of use. And there isn't enough parking.

ReadyForRub
10-29-21, 12:57
My favorite is you can't abbreviate years old with why slash o. It posts as why / o.
edit - the "y" is the issue.Do dining, either?

Moejoo
10-29-21, 14:29
Does a girl who does a gang bang agree to be paid after the last guy has his way with her and no one else wants a turn? Does she get something like 10 bucks after each guy? Are the guys told who they will be banging before the event or told at all? How does that all work?

Dddubs2
10-31-21, 23:42
Great idea. Cost is too much for just a few hours of use. And there isn't enough parking.One with free / cheap parking and a big enough room / suite? How big of a space are you looking for?

Jayp80
11-01-21, 09:31
Get an Airbnb house.Have to be careful with that, some owners have rules against parties and have cameras outside the house.

Ron M
11-01-21, 11:24
I might have a location under consideration. Nothing definite yet. Thanks for the suggestions.

ElJefe69
11-01-21, 12:41
Does a girl who does a gang bang agree to be paid after the last guy has his way with her and no one else wants a turn? Does she get something like 10 bucks after each guy? Are the guys told who they will be banging before the event or told at all? How does that all work?I went to a fairly large GB in Schaumburg at Sonesta suites without issue of parking etc.

Chicago41
11-01-21, 21:31
Anyone have or know of a location to host a GB? Looking to set this up in November.What about Sybaris?

Ron M
11-02-21, 10:25
What about Sybaris?No go. It's a couples retreat. Staff watch who's there like a mother Hawk.

Moejoo
11-02-21, 15:01
If someone on this board is going to set up a gang bang I would think they would be posting at least pics if not some sort of name for the lucky lady and inviting members here to attend. If not then that would seem kind of selfish.

Quimby
11-03-21, 09:05
If someone on this board is going to set up a gang bang I would think they would be posting at least pics if not some sort of name for the lucky lady and inviting members here to attend. If not then that would seem kind of selfish.Yes. Please share. Especially with those who are responding to this string. Drop a PM invite.

Moejoo
11-03-21, 16:11
Yes. Please share. Especially with those who are responding to this string. Drop a PM invite.Maybe there is some secret clique that we are not privy to where people get info from here and then keep their own knowledge to themselves. Maybe they have their own GB parties and laugh at us chumps who are outside wondering where all the real action is. They hold all the answers except where to actually have the party. Knowledge is power and we seem to be the powerless peons here.

Balkan75
11-03-21, 18:52
Maybe there is some secret clique that we are not privy to where people get info from here and then keep their own knowledge to themselves. Maybe they have their own GB parties and laugh at us chumps who are outside wondering where all the real action is. They hold all the answers except where to actually have the party. Knowledge is power and we seem to be the powerless peons here.They might be in different network. For example fetlife they are lot of GB parties but quality of participant is very low and mostly fat chicks. I'm curious about fetish parties going on somewhere in the city.

LeeOskar
11-03-21, 21:51
If someone on this board is going to set up a gang bang I would think they would be posting at least pics if not some sort of name for the lucky lady and inviting members here to attend. If not then that would seem kind of selfish.The invites are probably last on his list. He has to find a place, date, etc before worrying about antsy people like you. Give it time.

SleepOdyssey
11-03-21, 22:21
So I saw this thread in the Minneapolis section and thought it was great. It's mostly for the street walker crowd, but I think some things can be applied to other parts of this hobby, like escorts and massage parlors maybe. Good stuff to follow for newbies and even experienced mongers.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5276-rules-of-mongering

Ump1969
11-03-21, 23:24
I find the objections to the GB ridiculous. Does anyone realize just how many members there are in this forum. How would they all fit in one room? How many guys can do one girl at one GB? Why are members not allowed to have their own circle of friends? As someone who was also not invited, I tell the party goers to have a good time and please give us the details after.

BeechNut79
11-04-21, 11:28
So I saw this thread in the Minneapolis section and thought it was great. It's mostly for the street walker crowd, but I think some things can be applied to other parts of this hobby, like escorts and massage parlors maybe. Good stuff to follow for newbies and even experienced mongers.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5276-rules-of-mongeringJust read all this and it's a handful. Do you see all this as a reason most SWs now tend to only text and never talk on the phone? To me it's a bit of a red flag as without hearing a voice how do I know if they really exist.

SleepOdyssey
11-04-21, 20:35
Just read all this and it's a handful. Do you see all this as a reason most SWs now tend to only text and never talk on the phone? To me it's a bit of a red flag as without hearing a voice how do I know if they really exist.I've never partook in the picking up streetwalkers thing, and this list of rules may seem like a handful but it'll certainly save you trouble and keep you safe.

I'd think SWs would appreciate mongers taking caution. It benefits both sides. I've only ever shared one call with a SW and that was because she required it. It was actually unusual for me, since I only ever texted SWs. It was almost a red flag to be honest LOL. I think some escorts are open to a phone call if you ask them after introducing yourself through text or email. Just be careful not to be too explicit or upfront, because it may not sit well with the SW.

Also, hearing a voice isn't a 100% confirmation that they actually exist. Something better would be a video call and looking at other factors to confirm if she's real.

Jc2490
11-04-21, 22:17
Just read all this and it's a handful. Do you see all this as a reason most SWs now tend to only text and never talk on the phone? To me it's a bit of a red flag as without hearing a voice how do I know if they really exist.I refuse to see anyone that will not talk to me on the phone. They have all the excuses, my phone is text only, my phone is broken and I can only text. I just respond Bullshit. If you won't talk to me, I'll take my money elsewhere. Chances are that her pimp is the one doing all the texting. For all we know, there may not even be a real girl there.

BeechNut79
11-04-21, 23:17
I've never partook in the picking up streetwalkers thing, and this list of rules may seem like a handful but it'll certainly save you trouble and keep you safe.

I'd think SWs would appreciate mongers taking caution. It benefits both sides. I've only ever shared one call with a SW and that was because she required it. It was actually unusual for me, since I only ever texted SWs. It was almost a red flag to be honest LOL. I think some escorts are open to a phone call if you ask them after introducing yourself through text or email. Just be careful not to be too explicit or upfront, because it may not sit well with the SW.

Also, hearing a voice isn't a 100% confirmation that they actually exist. Something better would be a video call and looking at other factors to confirm if she's real.I was referring more to the platforms such as those that have popped up in lieu of the original Backpage. They are almost exclusively text only and usually won't accept cash payment, insisting on gift cards or one of these so-called digital wallets. Was told it's for security purposes.

BeechNut79
11-04-21, 23:53
I've never partook in the picking up streetwalkers thing, and this list of rules may seem like a handful but it'll certainly save you trouble and keep you safe.

I'd think SWs would appreciate mongers taking caution. It benefits both sides. I've only ever shared one call with a SW and that was because she required it. It was actually unusual for me, since I only ever texted SWs. It was almost a red flag to be honest LOL. I think some escorts are open to a phone call if you ask them after introducing yourself through text or email. Just be careful not to be too explicit or upfront, because it may not sit well with the SW.

Also, hearing a voice isn't a 100% confirmation that they actually exist. Something better would be a video call and looking at other factors to confirm if she's real.Which is why we need to legalize or at least decriminalize sex work. There would be benefits on both sides of the ball. On the SW side they could report abuses while we on the client side could report the scammers, all without fear of reprisal.

Hater
11-15-21, 14:36
Looks like The other site is down.

Member #6117
11-16-21, 13:53
Hi boys!

I remember watching a massage parlor full service video on PH called "Rub and Tug Adventures". It features a muscular Caucasian man having sex with different masseuses in a parlor that was supposedly in Chicago according to the comments. The video and comments were subsequently deleted from PH but I was able to find some of the videos (link below) on another site. Please PM about this place or message me in public. Seems like a dream come true.

https://www.tnaflix.com/hd-videos/RUB-TUG-ADVENTURES-HIDDEN-CAM-WITH-DIAMOND-PART-1-OF-3/video4322667

Wenger
11-16-21, 19:00
Hi boys!

I remember watching a massage parlor full service video on PH called "Rub and Tug Adventures". It features a muscular Caucasian man having sex with different masseuses in a parlor that was supposedly in Chicago according to the comments. The video and comments were subsequently deleted from PH but I was able to find some of the videos (link below) on another site. Please PM about this place or message me in public. Seems like a dream come true.

https://www.tnaflix.com/hd-videos/RUB-TUG-ADVENTURES-HIDDEN-CAM-WITH-DIAMOND-PART-1-OF-3/video4322667Kind of funny that he blurs his face so he doesn't get recognized, but forgets that he's facing a mirror.

Ron M
11-17-21, 17:11
I might have a location under consideration. Nothing definite yet. Thanks for the suggestions.I found a location.

This GB will take place this Friday around 12 noon. Looking for 3 guys that can attend at this time. Location is on the Northside of Chicago. If you can attend 100% send me a PM. First 3 that PM me are in.

Shorty58
11-19-21, 11:40
Hi boys!

I remember watching a massage parlor full service video on PH called "Rub and Tug Adventures". It features a muscular Caucasian man having sex with different masseuses in a parlor that was supposedly in Chicago according to the comments. The video and comments were subsequently deleted from PH but I was able to find some of the videos (link below) on another site. Please PM about this place or message me in public. Seems like a dream come true.

https://www.tnaflix.com/hd-videos/RUB-TUG-ADVENTURES-HIDDEN-CAM-WITH-DIAMOND-PART-1-OF-3/video4322667Google "Rub and Tug Adventures " and you'll find several of these videos.

Member #6117
11-19-21, 17:48
Google "Rub and Tug Adventures " and you'll find several of these videos.No Doubt! I found a ton of them. What I can't find is the location! Apparently these spots are somewhere in Chicago according to the comments but I cannot find the exact place.

Ron M
11-19-21, 17:53
I found a location.

This GB will take place this Friday around 12 noon. Looking for 3 guys that can attend at this time. Location is on the Northside of Chicago. If you can attend 100% send me a PM. First 3 that PM me are in.I'll try for mid December. Hopefully at this location.

Member #6368
11-25-21, 10:07
Hello friends and happy Thanksgiving! I'm traveling to Chicago in January for the first time and am looking for some advice on where to find a good, reliable, beautiful lady. LOL. I know, aren't we all? I'd prefer outcall but am open to infall as well. Anyway here in Philly we have a few sites that are generally reliable for finding the higher quality providers but I wasn't sure if there was any goto sites popular in Chicago. If you have any recommendations please let me know. If you're traveling to Philly I'd be happy to return the favor. Thanks!

Moejoo
11-25-21, 13:15
Hello friends and happy Thanksgiving! I'm traveling to Chicago in January for the first time and am looking for some advice on where to find a good, reliable, beautiful lady. LOL. I know, aren't we all? I'd prefer outcall but am open to infall as well. Anyway here in Philly we have a few sites that are generally reliable for finding the higher quality providers but I wasn't sure if there was any goto sites popular in Chicago. If you have any recommendations please let me know. If you're traveling to Philly I'd be happy to return the favor. Thanks!Girls that used to be 300 here are now asking up to 600. What is your body type and budget?

Member #6368
11-25-21, 18:01
Girls that used to be 300 here are now asking up to 600. What is your body type and budget?I figured I could find someone between 4 and 6 roses. I like them short but curvy. Under 5'6" preferred. Love a big chest too.

DrPepper2976
11-25-21, 19:35
Girls that used to be 300 here are now asking up to 600. What is your body type and budget?You looking for independent you will get GPS girls, you want an affordable price you go agency.

(don't know why people don't do agency).

Member #6368
11-25-21, 20:33
You looking for independent you will get GPS girls, you want an affordable price you go agency.

(don't know why people don't do agency).Thanks. I'm not opposed to agencies. Just looking for recommendations.

Abcat1
11-26-21, 14:58
Thanks. I'm not opposed to agencies. Just looking for recommendations.Think agencies are the best with some exceptions. Girls / women are usually on time. Prices are reasonable, and reviews are accurate. I had a run in Chris a while back. Asked him a question about covid. He threatened to black ball me. I said go ahead and he did. I'd been a long term client. Sorry I did because he's always had some good ones. Especially the MILFs.

SkiBum925
12-07-21, 16:45
Think agencies are the best with some exceptions. Girls / women are usually on time. Prices are reasonable, and reviews are accurate. I had a run in Chris a while back. Asked him a question about covid. He threatened to black ball me. I said go ahead and he did. I'd been a long term client. Sorry I did because he's always had some good ones. Especially the MILFs.My big problem with the agencies has always been location—why do they only want to be at ORD?

Issei
12-07-21, 18:19
Hey guys newbie question here and not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but what is the right way to ask for more services to a provider you've seen more than once?

Like is it okay to ask for BBFS or is asking for more generally looked down upon?

Thanks.

MisterXX
12-07-21, 18:19
I was with Angelika in MA agents. Beautiful, sexy girl, very good service. She met me in beautiful underwear. Very deep BJ as I like. Cool figure, beautiful breasts, natural and it pleases, real pictures, returned to her 2 times. Always got great pleasure.

Recommend who wants to get real pleasure.

DrPepper2976
12-07-21, 18:29
My big problem with the agencies has always been locationwhy do they only want to be at ORD?It has so many hotels, so accessible via highway for clients that live in the city AND the suburbs and some agencies have girls that visit from other states and countries.

Use your head and think of logistics and evasion. Where else would be better?

TitSucker
12-08-21, 00:33
Hey guys newbie question here and not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but what is the right way to ask for more services to a provider you've seen more than once?

Like is it okay to ask for BBFS or is asking for more generally looked down upon?

Thanks.If you feel that she's comfortable with you, just ask something like, "Is there anything else available?" or "Is there anything else on the menu?" or "What else do you do?" If you get a positive answer, then you can ask about pricing. If she doesn't bring up what you're looking for, then ask if she does it. You aren't making demands, you're just asking about her services.

Mr Charmo
12-10-21, 17:24
25 yo white girl is in a pinch. More than I'd like to help on my own. Any guys down to do a MFM with her? North suburbs, we'd get a room at a motel. North burbs. Late tonight or early tmro.

Send me direct message. Senior members only.

Kabs3714
12-11-21, 14:00
I've heard of a variety of spots in the city. Never been given details, told one is in the back of an actual bookstore. Anyone know swinger / sex club spots? I'm assuming you pay as a single male or provide a broad with you? Enlighten me.

RyanChicago
12-11-21, 17:19
I've heard of a variety of spots in the city. Never been given details, told one is in the back of an actual bookstore. Anyone know swinger / sex club spots? I'm assuming you pay as a single male or provide a broad with you? Enlighten me.Not in the city but alot of action happens there. Especially on weekends. I've been there a handful of times. It cost more if you're single male but if you bring a lady with you it's cheaper to get in.

TJGeek
12-11-21, 19:11
I've heard of a variety of spots in the city. Never been given details, told one is in the back of an actual bookstore. Anyone know swinger / sex club spots? I'm assuming you pay as a single male or provide a broad with you? Enlighten me.The 15th Ave Book Store in Melrose Park is discussed in this forum. http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5216-15th-Ave-Bookstore.

Not a real swingers club compared to some I've been to in the South.

Moejoo
12-16-21, 10:04
Word was the gang bang being organized by one of you guys got pushed to December. Did anyone get contacted about it? Was the whole thing some sort of a ruse?

Chicago41
12-16-21, 11:54
Word was the gang bang being organized by one of you guys got pushed to December. Did anyone get contacted about it? Was the whole thing some sort of a ruse?Lots of GB have been posted about here, but as far as I know, the only ones that ever panned out were the ones MoneyT used to set up.

There's a lot of work involved and it's kind of a pain in the ass. The girls often flake out too.

Ron M
12-16-21, 17:22
Lots of GB have been posted about here, but as far as I know, the only ones that ever panned out were the ones MoneyT used to set up.

There's a lot of work involved and it's kind of a pain in the ass. The girls often flake out too.If anyone has or know of a location to host let me know.

Benderedundat
12-18-21, 18:32
I've heard of a variety of spots in the city. Never been given details, told one is in the back of an actual bookstore. Anyone know swinger / sex club spots? I'm assuming you pay as a single male or provide a broad with you? Enlighten me.There are several in this city and suburbs. There are also a lot of hotel parties that take place, usually on nights and weekends. Within that realm, one would have to break down what one is looking for. Are you looking for a Gang Bang? 20 guys and 5 girls? I used to go to one of those types of parties. The host was strict about the attendance and rules were followed about when everyone got naked.

Some you can attend as a single male. Some have a quota of single males and they are couples oriented. I can think of two parties / clubs right now that allow single males.

There are also lifestyle parties. Those are more couples oriented. And within that, some parties allow Bi contact and Cross Dressers and T-Gurls.

15th ave and its parties and its spa are a whole different world.

There are men and women who throw their own parties to make money and there are those that have parties just because they like sex. There is a woman I know that travels around and has gang bangs at hotels. $100 a guy. Pretty mechanical sex. You best be able to perform, naked, lights on, and in front of 10-20 other guys. There is a group that I am in that meets once a month. Its not for everyone as it is an older crowd, and the men and women are not Ken and Barbie types. We accept that about each other and we fuck for 8 hours and then go back to our normal lives.

Places come and go. Ownerships change. Mailing lists get passed around. Its a lot of work. I've organized them and lot of people who say they will show up, don't. The rule is to invite twice as many as you think will show up. I've been lucky. I'm a nice guy, treat everyone with respect. Clean up after myself and I get invited back. I have had relationships with women who were interested in the lifestyle so I had a date for some parties.

On another note, I have been thinking about getting an apartment on the NW side near the 90/94 junction to host smaller intimate gatherings. 5 people max. Or let some friends use it to meet their girlfriends. Idk. Something to think about for the new year. OTOH, a hotel is pretty easy too.

Ron M
12-20-21, 23:54
On another note, I have been thinking about getting an apartment on the NW side near the 90/94 junction to host smaller intimate gatherings. 5 people max. Or let some friends use it to meet their girlfriends. Idk. Something to think about for the new year.If you get this apartment let me know the details.

Getreal
12-22-21, 10:43
What is it with the tryst scene. All fat sea monsters on that page who is paying these pigs? 300+ for some real monsters. Then all the trannys mixed in. If I put no trans on a search, I don't want to see MEN! Has anyone noticed that the porn sites xvideos, xhamster, pornhub now have trannies on the main page. These videos should not be on the main page, they should be in the sub-category.

Back to tryst who is paying these "providers" some men will fuck anything!

RideMyFace
12-22-21, 11:42
What is it with the tryst scene. All fat sea monsters on that page who is paying these pigs? 300+ for some real monsters. Then all the trannys mixed in. If I put no trans on a search, I don't want to see MEN! Has anyone noticed that the porn sites xvideos, xhamster, pornhub now have trannies on the main page. These videos should not be on the main page, they should be in the sub-category.

Back to tryst who is paying these "providers" some men will fuck anything!When I look at the tryst profiles, I have to wonder the same thing, I can see paying 400-500 for guys who have sufficient money and want to see a nice clean looking girl, but so many on the site are just not even close to fitting that definition, fat, ugly, hairy, you name it and still expensive, I just don't understand it either. Also I have noticed numerous girls go to tryst after years of being on BP / LC who I know from experience are junkie slores but now want 300+ an hour? This is crazy, who pays these prices?

Getreal
12-22-21, 13:06
When I look at the tryst profiles, I have to wonder the same thing, I can see paying 400-500 for guys who have sufficient money and want to see a nice clean looking girl, but so many on the site are just not even close to fitting that definition, fat, ugly, hairy, you name it and still expensive, I just don't understand it either. Also I have noticed numerous girls go to tryst after years of being on BP / LC who I know from experience are junkie slores but now want 300+ an hour? This is crazy, who pays these prices?I agree completely. Maybe its the Chicago area, because if you look at other cities the prices seem more reasonable. But still they are out there. Additionally, if you say you are a porn star and you only have an OF page. In my book that does not make you a porn star.

RideMyFace
12-22-21, 13:41
I think * has hurt the hobby. It allows alot of these girls to get easy money from dudes who might not want to go through all the effort and risks of actual hobbying (and higher prices), but still getting their kicks, I personally don't understand why guys go the OF pay route for their sexual gratification, its alot like paying for porno sites I suppose, with a more personalized touch I guess. Either way, people can spend their money how they see fit, but it does funnel money to girls that previously would have to actually provide to make ends meet. But, in my experience most of the OF stuff I've seen is just trash quality and quantity especially when coming from everyday amateur girls. But I guess its alot like the endless amount of horrible providers out there that seem to stay around forever even though its hard to see why anyone would every see them more then once.

Explorer8
12-22-21, 13:52
The GB parties in the ATL section are awesome!

I have been following that for some time.

George Stark
12-26-21, 21:26
What is it with the tryst scene. All fat sea monsters on that page who is paying these pigs? 300+ for some real monsters.

Back to tryst who is paying these "providers" some men will fuck anything!I've seen totally average (or below) hood chicks, with a "no. " list a mile long, go from LC to Tryst and think they're worth 2 - 3 times as much. It's absurd.

George Stark
12-26-21, 21:32
I think * has hurt the hobby. It allows alot of these girls to get easy money from dudes who might not want to go through all the effort and risks of actual hobbying (and higher prices), but still getting their kicks, I personally don't understand why guys go the OF pay route for their sexual gratification, its alot like paying for porno sites I suppose, with a more personalized touch I guess. Hope guys like that would not being paying escorts for OF. Totally counter-productive. That goes triple for actual mongers, talk about self-defeating.

As far as the porn goes, OF is very mediocre. *One* camera angle (often a bad one), poor exposure, short duration. Garbage. I actually do pay for porn sometimes, because I like the better looking chicks of my type all in one place, the full length (not the chopped up stuff on the tube sites) and better production values.

LukeSolo
12-27-21, 22:32
Checked out this one the other day for a change of pace from the AMPs. Standard semi scary building front, but area is safe.

Masked woman greeted me. Of course lowlight so hard to see if she was cute or not. But she was with decent body.

Went with covered L2. I hate condoms but safe I reckon. She started with ok massage with quick flip. She had a good attitude though with our chitchat. Might repeat to check out other girls or try 4 hand. Total 220.

https://chicago.rubratings.com/172093

Member #6368
12-31-21, 11:53
Thanks. I'm not opposed to agencies. Just looking for recommendations.Since my visit is less than 2 weeks away I figured I'd bump this up. I'm open to indy or agency. I don't have a preference. Just want outcall to my CC hotel. BBJCIM, DATY, MSOG. I've done some research and have a short list but figured someone here may have some recommendations as well. Thanks!