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I just posted on a different section here and then found this post. But my question is do any of you get unsolicited calls / texts from a provider you've never met or even called?? I was a little desperate so I planned on seeing her. When I got to the hotel I panicked and left. Just didn't seem right? (not like any of it is. LOL) All I keep thinking is it was a setup!! Since then I tried looking her up and only had 3 posts. 1 last month and again this month 2 xs. Justnot enough in my opinion. Anyone else see this??
Thanks.That has never happened to me ever. That said, in the Chicago area Tom Dart is quite resourceful in his efforts to crack down on people paying money for adult fun so anything is possible.
CoolPatrick
10-28-16, 10:57
I just posted on a different section here and then found this post. But my question is do any of you get unsolicited calls / texts from a provider you've never met or even called?? I was a little desperate so I planned on seeing her. When I got to the hotel I panicked and left. Just didn't seem right? (not like any of it is. LOL) All I keep thinking is it was a setup!! Since then I tried looking her up and only had 3 posts. 1 last month and again this month 2 xs. Justnot enough in my opinion. Anyone else see this??
Thanks.Where did you see the posts of this said provider? TER, BP, here?
Are these posts reviews or advertisement? Can you include the URL of what you read?
If you want people to help you discern the legitimacy and safety of a provider, or a situation like this, it's easier for people to help if you can include more information.
Anyway, it's good that you walked away regardless. Better safe than sorry.
I had received one unsolicited invitation before. A girl got my email from Lola Luscious, who wants to start up as high end escort. If you know who Lola is and her approach to this business, then you wouldn't feel unsafe. Yet, I did not partake because I don't think she is worth a $500 tag, even though our conversation was flirty with a good vibe. Guess what, she is now asking $350 on TER ad board now, which I consider as a fair tag and I moved her to my tracking list. My point is, unsolicited communication can happen in this business too, just like any other. If we know to provider a different email to bestguy, target, macy's for them to 'email' offers etc., we can also just do the same in this hobby.
CouchCouscous
10-28-16, 12:22
Never ever reply to unsolicited voice calls, emails, or texts on your burner phone. Especially those contacts from providers (heaven forbid), on your regular phone. That's like your main best fire wall. You control who contacts you and do your research first. It's ok to listen to your gut and back out of a meeting. Often, your eyes or brain have made connections that your frontal lobes haven't processed yet due to your little brain trying to over ride all sense and reason. LOL. Stay safe and have fun.
Anyone else having trouble logging in to the other board? I do have an old computer. Just wondering if it is me or them.
Thanks.
CoolPatrick
10-31-16, 14:11
Anyone else having trouble logging in to the other board? I do have an old computer. Just wondering if it is me or them.
Thanks.TER the other review site is under maintenance, its twitter finally had an update around 9 am.
By the way, there is another review site literally called "the other board" and is popular in Denver and CO, and to some extent, Las Vegas. I often see people mentioned TER as "The othER site" and I rarely see people saying the other board because of the name duplication.
So to ensure clarity, maybe write something like "The othER site" or avoid saying " the other board. ".
Thanks.
Thanks Cool Patrick and also for the distinction between the two boards.
TER the other review site is under maintenance, its twitter finally had an update around 9 am.
By the way, there is another review site literally called "the other board" and is popular in Denver and CO, and to some extent, Las Vegas. I often see people mentioned TER as "The othER site" and I rarely see people saying the other board because of the name duplication.
So to ensure clarity, maybe write something like "The othER site" or avoid saying " the other board. ".
Thanks..
Friday, "L" and I messed up big time. We took a walk Friday morning at the Half day forest preserve (Milwaukee Ave just north of Ernie's Shell station in Vernon Hills). Gone for half an hour, about 9 am walking and taking pictures of fall colors. We returned and found my car window smashed and her purse was gone. She lost $500, passport, I'd cards, SS card, Bank ATM cars, Visa, Work permit. Basically every document in her entire world. We were incredibly foolish and stupid. Now I'm try to fix things.
We filed police reports with the Lake Country Forest Rangers. I also went to over a dozen police departments passing the information directly to them, because they do not automatically interchange information. We also cancelled all checking and credit cards, and notified Experian. We have to contact IRS, SS, USCIS Homeland security. Lawyers. Unbelievable.
I'm writing this post just to give the members, (including law enforcement) a heads up. Its a large Michael Korrs bag, (Black "MK"s on a white bag). Pink wallet, including a wedding ring I gave her.
IF anybody finds or comes across the bag or has any information, I would be desperately grateful. L is a good, decent, honest person. She does not deserve the shit storm she will have to go through. I will gladly reveal my personal information to anybody who can help.
Thank you. Bob.
Friday, "L" and I messed up big time. We took a walk Friday morning at the Half day forest preserve (Milwaukee Ave just north of Ernie's Shell station in Vernon Hills). Gone for half an hour, about 9 am walking and taking pictures of fall colors. We returned and found my car window smashed and her purse was gone. She lost $500, passport, I'd cards, SS card, Bank ATM cars, Visa, Work permit. Basically every document in her entire world. We were incredibly foolish and stupid. Now I'm try to fix things.
We filed police reports with the Lake Country Forest Rangers. I also went to over a dozen police departments passing the information directly to them, because they do not automatically interchange information. We also cancelled all checking and credit cards, and notified Experian. We have to contact IRS, SS, USCIS Homeland security. Lawyers. Unbelievable.
I'm writing this post just to give the members, (including law enforcement) a heads up. Its a large Michael Korrs bag, (Black "MK"s on a white bag). Pink wallet, including a wedding ring I gave her.
IF anybody finds or comes across the bag or has any information, I would be desperately grateful. L is a good, decent, honest person. She does not deserve the shit storm she will have to go through. I will gladly reveal my personal information to anybody who can help.
Thank you. Bob.Just a thought.
Check CL & BP for the Korrs bag. I know from personal experience how expensive they are and it may appear there for re-sale.
Sorry to hear and hope everything will be ok.
Friday, "L" and I messed up big time. We took a walk Friday morning at the Half day forest preserve (Milwaukee Ave just north of Ernie's Shell station in Vernon Hills). Gone for half an hour, about 9 am walking and taking pictures of fall colors. We returned and found my car window smashed and her purse was gone. She lost $500, passport, I'd cards, SS card, Bank ATM cars, Visa, Work permit. Basically every document in her entire world. We were incredibly foolish and stupid. Now I'm try to fix things.
We filed police reports with the Lake Country Forest Rangers. I also went to over a dozen police departments passing the information directly to them, because they do not automatically interchange information. We also cancelled all checking and credit cards, and notified Experian. We have to contact IRS, SS, USCIS Homeland security. Lawyers. Unbelievable.
I'm writing this post just to give the members, (including law enforcement) a heads up. Its a large Michael Korrs bag, (Black "MK"s on a white bag). Pink wallet, including a wedding ring I gave her.
IF anybody finds or comes across the bag or has any information, I would be desperately grateful. L is a good, decent, honest person. She does not deserve the shit storm she will have to go through. I will gladly reveal my personal information to anybody who can help.
Thank you. Bob.Bob,
As a newbie, I found this post equally depressing and humbling. You sir just literally invalidated the social assumptions that mongers are all horrible and useless men, just as you see past the stigma of the world's oldest profession.
Wish you the best.
Thank you Joe for your wishes and the good ideas. I'll do that. I'd give my teeth for that passport, however. (There're not good teeth, but I would give them.) Bob.
Just a thought.
Check CL & BP for the Korrs bag. I know from personal experience how expensive they are and it may appear there for re-sale.
Sorry to hear and hope everything will be ok.
Friday, "L" and I messed up big time. We took a walk Friday morning at the Half day forest preserve (Milwaukee Ave just north of Ernie's Shell station in Vernon Hills). Gone for half an hour, about 9 am walking and taking pictures of fall colors. We returned and found my car window smashed and her purse was gone. She lost $500, passport, I'd cards, SS card, Bank ATM cars, Visa, Work permit. Basically every document in her entire world. We were incredibly foolish and stupid. Now I'm try to fix things.
We filed police reports with the Lake Country Forest Rangers. I also went to over a dozen police departments passing the information directly to them, because they do not automatically interchange information. We also cancelled all checking and credit cards, and notified Experian. We have to contact IRS, SS, USCIS Homeland security. Lawyers. Unbelievable.
I'm writing this post just to give the members, (including law enforcement) a heads up. Its a large Michael Korrs bag, (Black "MK"s on a white bag). Pink wallet, including a wedding ring I gave her.
IF anybody finds or comes across the bag or has any information, I would be desperately grateful. L is a good, decent, honest person. She does not deserve the shit storm she will have to go through. I will gladly reveal my personal information to anybody who can help.
Thank you. Bob.Sucks someone would steal all her stuff like that. She could probably not miss the money (much), but the passport and other documents will be a bear to replace. Hopefully ICE won't give her any grief when she starts the process of replacing them.
Thanks. Yeah. This time I will use a lawyer.
Sucks someone would steal all her stuff like that. She could probably not miss the money (much), but the passport and other documents will be a bear to replace. Hopefully ICE won't give her any grief when she starts the process of replacing them.
It would be a good idea for you to put a credit freeze on her immediately. Google credit freeze. It's easy and it's free.
Good luck.
Friday, "L" and I messed up big time. We took a walk Friday morning at the Half day forest preserve (Milwaukee Ave just north of Ernie's Shell station in Vernon Hills). Gone for half an hour, about 9 am walking and taking pictures of fall colors. We returned and found my car window smashed and her purse was gone. She lost $500, passport, I'd cards, SS card, Bank ATM cars, Visa, Work permit. Basically every document in her entire world. We were incredibly foolish and stupid. Now I'm try to fix things.
We filed police reports with the Lake Country Forest Rangers. I also went to over a dozen police departments passing the information directly to them, because they do not automatically interchange information. We also cancelled all checking and credit cards, and notified Experian. We have to contact IRS, SS, USCIS Homeland security. Lawyers. Unbelievable.
I'm writing this post just to give the members, (including law enforcement) a heads up. Its a large Michael Korrs bag, (Black "MK"s on a white bag). Pink wallet, including a wedding ring I gave her.
IF anybody finds or comes across the bag or has any information, I would be desperately grateful. L is a good, decent, honest person. She does not deserve the shit storm she will have to go through. I will gladly reveal my personal information to anybody who can help.
Thank you. Bob.
Al Melrose
11-06-16, 03:25
I had a girl last weekend that left her purse in the front seat, made her move it to the trunk Big no-no.
24 yo Latina I've been seeing for a while. First time she's opening up to f*cking friends.
She's not a pro, but am convincing her by talking to her about getting help from guys.
Thinking of doing it downtown, or north side burbs.
Will be tight timing, as she'll be leaving Monday out of town for a week.
PM seniors.
DaddyOne23
11-15-16, 12:26
So I am looking to get tested and I was thinking about experiences with Talent Testing Services and tstd. Org. I never used TTS and it seems they require information on you (name, DOB, address, etc) and it looks to be confidential but you never know when the next Ashley Madison hack happens however from what I understand, they are the gold standard. TSTD seems more anonymous but that is a double edge sword, because if I want to share those results, I can't 100% prove its me.
Anyone in a similar boat? Any other testers out there worth looking into? How were your experiences?
So I am looking to get tested and I was thinking about experiences with Talent Testing Services and tstd. Org. I never used TTS and it seems they require information on you (name, DOB, address, etc) and it looks to be confidential but you never know when the next Ashley Madison hack happens however from what I understand, they are the gold standard. TSTD seems more anonymous but that is a double edge sword, because if I want to share those results, I can't 100% prove its me.
Anyone in a similar boat? Any other testers out there worth looking into? How were your experiences?I've used stdtestexpress. Happy with the results (on every level LOL).
Call Me Slappy
11-16-16, 10:21
So I am looking to get tested and I was thinking about experiences with Talent Testing Services and tstd. Org. I never used TTS and it seems they require information on you (name, DOB, address, etc) and it looks to be confidential but you never know when the next Ashley Madison hack happens however from what I understand, they are the gold standard. TSTD seems more anonymous but that is a double edge sword, because if I want to share those results, I can't 100% prove its me.
Anyone in a similar boat? Any other testers out there worth looking into? How were your experiences?I've used tstd. Org and STD Test Express. tstd.org is cheaper upfront, but if a test comes back positive and you need a script, consulting with their doc is another charge. STD Test Express (as I recall) is all inclusive, therefore more expensive.
If you're doing 'maintenance' testing (every 3 months or so) and being a safer monger (no BB anything) then tstd would be the way to go. If you had any BB fun and you had concerns you might ring positive (nailing a SW BB while she shot up and asked if her sores looked better from back there), then try one of the other anonymous services.
One thing I always wondered about (let's play the what if game) is if you test positive and need a script. Do you, even with an anonymous service, need to give your real name to get the script? Or can you use the name you gave for testing? I would think you could, but you'd take the hit in not being able to use your insurance (if you have it) to cover the script cost. For those of us with SO's, I'd take the hit. For those of you that can do the online route, then I'm thinking you can wait for the order. Unless of course, you need a jab in the ass, then it's off to the doc no matter what.
Laying all this out reminds me why I moved away from FS providers and into the AMPs / EMPs. I guess one latex failure will do that to you!
I've used tstd. Org and STD Test Express. tstd.org is cheaper upfront, but if a test comes back positive and you need a script, consulting with their doc is another charge. STD Test Express (as I recall) is all inclusive, therefore more expensive.
If you're doing 'maintenance' testing (every 3 months or so) and being a safer monger (no BB anything) then tstd would be the way to go. If you had any BB fun and you had concerns you might ring positive (nailing a SW BB while she shot up and asked if her sores looked better from back there), then try one of the other anonymous services.
One thing I always wondered about (let's play the what if game) is if you test positive and need a script. Do you, even with an anonymous service, need to give your real name to get the script? Or can you use the name you gave for testing? I would think you could, but you'd take the hit in not being able to use your insurance (if you have it) to cover the script cost. For those of us with SO's, I'd take the hit. For those of you that can do the online route, then I'm thinking you can wait for the order. Unless of course, you need a jab in the ass, then it's off to the doc no matter what.
Laying all this out reminds me why I moved away from FS providers and into the AMPs / EMPs. I guess one latex failure will do that to you!I asked STD Express the what-if question and they would have to use your real name to order a script but HIPPA laws supposedly protect your privacy. You better have cash to pay for whatever meds you need or you will have an insurance paper trail.
DaddyOne23
11-16-16, 12:17
I asked STD Express the what-if question and they would have to use your real name to order a script but HIPPA laws supposedly protect your privacy. You better have cash to pay for whatever meds you need or you will have an insurance paper trail.So basically TSTD is anonymous and STD express is Private but not anonymous. Thanks for the info. Better to be safe than sorry!
So I am looking to get tested and I was thinking about experiences with Talent Testing Services and tstd. Org. I never used TTS and it seems they require information on you (name, DOB, address, etc) and it looks to be confidential but you never know when the next Ashley Madison hack happens however from what I understand, they are the gold standard. TSTD seems more anonymous but that is a double edge sword, because if I want to share those results, I can't 100% prove its me.
Anyone in a similar boat? Any other testers out there worth looking into? How were your experiences?If you're not married or have a nosey SO, check with your insurance provider to see if STD tests are covered. My insurance covers it (BCBS) and it is now part of my annual physical.
And my doctor doesn't call or mail anything. I have an online account with the clinic and can log in and get the results.
Two things that might lead to many more euro girls coming to America.
1. Brexit. Will be harder for ee girls to go to GBR. Pound also is weaker so they get less money after conversion.
2. Trump causes higher interest rates and dollar strengthens. Stronger dollar means EE girls are earning more when converted back to euros.
Any guys available tomorrow morning for a little fun? Or Saturday afternoon?
Friends email me. My USAG inbox is full, won't be able to receive PMs until later tonight.
Any guys available tomorrow morning for a little fun? Or Saturday afternoon?
Friends email me. My USAG inbox is full, won't be able to receive PMs until later tonight.What's your email, and where?
JolieThornDog
11-17-16, 20:16
Two things that might lead to many more euro girls coming to America.
1. Brexit. Will be harder for ee girls to go to GBR. Pound also is weaker so they get less money after conversion.
2. Trump causes higher interest rates and dollar strengthens. Stronger dollar means EE girls are earning more when converted back to euros.That's 1 benefit of electing Trump Let's hope there are more.
Anyone had a session with the Indian chick? I just don't know if I'm into that look, but it looks like a sure thing. Curious what her setup is like.
CoolPatrick
11-18-16, 09:18
Anyone had a session with the Indian chick? I just don't know if I'm into that look, but it looks like a sure thing. Curious what her setup is like.Maybe I missed something when I'm traveling to no man towns for work this week. Would you mind including a URL? From BP, CL, EROS, TER?
Charmo.
Hook it up, I have some supplies as well lets do it.
Any guys available tomorrow morning for a little fun? Or Saturday afternoon?
Friends email me. My USAG inbox is full, won't be able to receive PMs until later tonight.
Maybe I missed something when I'm traveling to no man towns for work this week. Would you mind including a URL? From BP, CL, EROS, TER?I rather not. She's been advertising since the Spring. I actually was going to meet her once (she screens people by meeting them at the local coffee shop). Just can't get into the look, but it's convenient to my office.
Just wanted to complain. I've had sporadic issues with CL in posting ads over the years regarding their phone number policy. This started in the late 2000's, but even since them usually I've been able to post without "verifying" with a code sent to my phone. I REFUSE to give them my phone number and link any activity I have with my email address or ads. So I tried posting last night and was totally shutdown. It appears there is absolutely no work around now. If you want to post an ad, they need your number. That's bullshit. I won't do it, and I'm not buying another phone. Not how I operate.
Was trying to set up this gang bang last Fri or Sat. Chick I just met. But she ended up flaking.
I gave it one more shot, now I'm buying her a dinner at FiveGuys. Fat ass and huge tits
Not sure if we'll get to gang up on her, but I'm def going to get in there. Cause these cheeseburgers ain't cheap. Keep you guys posted
I gave it one more shot, now I'm buying her a dinner at FiveGuys. After a sack of Fries, she has no choice but to give it up.
Hey gents,
What seems to be the most economical burner phones out? Should reactivate one of the many phones I've accumulated or go buy a flip?
Thanks for any Intel.
Well, its that time of year again. My favorite holiday actually. A time for families. So I wanted to take this opportunity to thank our strange little family at USASG. Thank you for your kind words. Your advice. Your patronage of our little shop. And the kindness you have shown to L. You are a very decent bunch of human beings.
I also thank L for coming into my life. She has profoundly affected me and I am lucky to be with her. If you have an "L" in your life, I truly hope you can be with her.
Happy Thanksgiving. Bob.
Well, its that time of year again. My favorite holiday actually. A time for families. So I wanted to take this opportunity to thank our strange little family at USASG. Thank you for your kind words. Your advice. Your patronage of our little shop. And the kindness you have shown to L. You are a very decent bunch of human beings.
I also thank L for coming into my life. She has profoundly affected me and I am lucky to be with her. If you have an "L" in your life, I truly hope you can be with her.
Happy Thanksgiving. Bob.Thanks Bob. My new "L" is going with me to my Thanksgiving gathering.
Just wanted to complain. I've had sporadic issues with CL in posting ads over the years regarding their phone number policy. This started in the late 2000's, but even since them usually I've been able to post without "verifying" with a code sent to my phone. I REFUSE to give them my phone number and link any activity I have with my email address or ads. So I tried posting last night and was totally shutdown. It appears there is absolutely no work around now. If you want to post an ad, they need your number. That's bullshit. I won't do it, and I'm not buying another phone. Not how I operate.There is always google voice and a hobby only email. No matter what you're never completely anonymous online. CL would always know which IP adress was used to create a post and be able to trace that back with help from your ISP. Realistically unless you're the Craigslist killer you have absolutely no chance of it ever going that far.
There is an app called Sideline that I use. You can turn on or off and change numbers. I don't like two phones.
Hey gents,
What seems to be the most economical burner phones out? Should reactivate one of the many phones I've accumulated or go buy a flip?
Thanks for any Intel.Went to AT&T, $30 for Android and loaded it with $30 cash. Gave the name John Doe and she never asked for anything beyond that. Untraceable, and cheap.
Jcon51.
Well, its that time of year again. My favorite holiday actually. A time for families. So I wanted to take this opportunity to thank our strange little family at USASG. Thank you for your kind words. Your advice. Your patronage of our little shop. And the kindness you have shown to L. You are a very decent bunch of human beings.
I also thank L for coming into my life. She has profoundly affected me and I am lucky to be with her. If you have an "L" in your life, I truly hope you can be with her.
Happy Thanksgiving. Bob.Happy Thanksgiving to you too, Bob. May you and 'L' continue to live happy and long lives.
So I've been having a really long dry spell, and I'm wondering if I've been "blacklisted," so to speak. A few months back I met a BP provider who was far heavier and less attractive than advertised. After a very aggressive LEO check from her, I just couldn't perform, and while I was polite and paid her (probably more than I should have) it left a bad taste in my mouth. Waste of time, waste of money, but now that I've had so many providers flaking on me or just not responding in the first place, I wonder if she may have been spreading rumors about me. Is there anything I can do? Or should I just keep trying more BP ads until I get a bite or two? What do you guys think?
So I've been having a really long dry spell, and I'm wondering if I've been "blacklisted," so to speak. A few months back I met a BP provider who was far heavier and less attractive than advertised. After a very aggressive LEO check from her, I just couldn't perform, and while I was polite and paid her (probably more than I should have) it left a bad taste in my mouth. Waste of time, waste of money, but now that I've had so many providers flaking on me or just not responding in the first place, I wonder if she may have been spreading rumors about me. Is there anything I can do? Or should I just keep trying more BP ads until I get a bite or two? What do you guys think?Probably just a case of bad luck. She wouldn't BL you if you paid her. The fact you couldn't hoist the flag wouldn't do it either.
Went to AT&T, $30 for Android and loaded it with $30 cash. Gave the name John Doe and she never asked for anything beyond that. Untraceable, and cheap.
Jcon51.
There is an app called Sideline that I use. You can turn on or off and change numbers. I don't like two phones.I'm going to second the use of Sideline, quick, easy to use, and its less than $5 a month.
I am using the "free" version of Sideline. It has ads. But, can you tell us what additional benefits the paid version offers? Maybe I should upgrade. Bob.
I'm going to second the use of Sideline, quick, easy to use, and its less than $5 a month.
StanleyStankas
11-26-16, 10:47
So I've been having a really long dry spell, and I'm wondering if I've been "blacklisted," so to speak. A few months back I met a BP provider who was far heavier and less attractive than advertised. After a very aggressive LEO check from her, I just couldn't perform, and while I was polite and paid her (probably more than I should have) it left a bad taste in my mouth. Waste of time, waste of money, but now that I've had so many providers flaking on me or just not responding in the first place, I wonder if she may have been spreading rumors about me. Is there anything I can do? Or should I just keep trying more BP ads until I get a bite or two? What do you guys think?You paid her and were not a no show or b*llshi**er. You can run your number, used name or handle in the search on the blacklist sites just to check but I wouldn't be concerned. You could not stand at attention because she didn't click with you. That also would not be a cause for a money making provider to bl you. Actually imo they prefer that! The one pro I got to know as a "friend" prefered that much of her clientele were "ed", talkers, "minutemen" as well as encouraging them to self abuse! Ha! She told me less for her to do!
StanleyStankas
11-26-16, 10:56
There is always google voice and a hobby only email. No matter what you're never completely anonymous online. CL would always know which IP adress was used to create a post and be able to trace that back with help from your ISP. Realistically unless you're the Craigslist killer you have absolutely no chance of it ever going that far.I also prefer one phone (android) and have a separate number on google voice. For calls its easy and for text just go to the google voice site and text from that other number. Also agree that technically anything can be traced back to you but why? Unless you did something far beyond procuring the services of a provider I think you're safe. If you want to look at the extremities your burner phone could be traced back to you even if you used cash to buy it! The phone has a serial number, the cash register where you purchased it has a camera on it and the eye in the sky sees all but again that is letting the mind wonder into total paranoia. Imo.
Colesmithe
11-26-16, 14:29
Anyone ever receive a random text from unknown number stating your number has been added to a national prostitution blacklist?
Anyone ever receive a random text from unknown number stating your number has been added to a national prostitution blacklist?Not me. It's most likely a Scam trying to get you to give them money. I'd just ignore it. I highly doubt there's an official national list to see if a client is blacklisted.
Anyone ever receive a random text from unknown number stating your number has been added to a national prostitution blacklist?Phishing. Ignore it, delete it and block the sender.
When you post, what time is the site using to determine when you posted? I do not think EST because that would be an hour later.
http://elite-secret.companionfiles.com/models
I noticed the 909 agency updated its web site. If you are a NWS suburban euro monger, you should belong to both 909 and 262. The true test of a booker's drawing power is how many new girls they can recruit during holiday season. So far two for 262 (Dana, Roxy) and none for 909.
KcRoyals32
12-01-16, 23:56
Has anyone seen her? Chicago. backpage.com/ BodyRubs / runner-yoga-college-hottie-sexy-soapy-mutual-shower-nude-b2 b-no-agency /44379322.
Looking for some fun next weekend.
Stephen6868
12-02-16, 00:05
http://elite-secret.companionfiles.com/models
I noticed the 909 agency updated its web site. If you are a NWS suburban euro monger, you should belong to both 909 and 262. The true test of a booker's drawing power is how many new girls they can recruit during holiday season. So far two for 262 (Dana, Roxy) and none for 909.What's the service comparison between the 2? I frequent 262 and find the service on average pretty good. Dfk and BBBJ are no guarantee. Most girls are sweet however some have 2 many rules. And I find some reviews on 262 are YMMV.
Colesmithe
12-02-16, 01:20
http://elite-secret.companionfiles.com/models
I noticed the 909 agency updated its web site. If you are a NWS suburban euro monger, you should belong to both 909 and 262. The true test of a booker's drawing power is how many new girls they can recruit during holiday season. So far two for 262 (Dana, Roxy) and none for 909.How has your experience been? 2 x the cost of 262 so guessing full GFE is accurate?
How has your experience been? 2 x the cost of 262 so guessing full GFE is accurate?Good experiences, but I have not used 909 for a long time. Make sure to book only half hour sessions.
Natefarwell
12-02-16, 10:39
http://elite-secret.companionfiles.com/models
I noticed the 909 agency updated its web site. If you are a NWS suburban euro monger, you should belong to both 909 and 262. The true test of a booker's drawing power is how many new girls they can recruit during holiday season. So far two for 262 (Dana, Roxy) and none for 909.Is there a web site for 262 like there is for 909?
Is there a web site for 262 like there is for 909?http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/erotic-sensual-massage-european-pretty-good-girls-new-price30min-130-60min-170/34457954
No web site for 262, but the agency uses the same link to its BP page. Check it late morning for that days "on" girls.
CoolPatrick
12-02-16, 12:20
How has your experience been? 2 x the cost of 262 so guessing full GFE is accurate?Sidney may be the youngest and the best looking one on Sandra's pen, but her reviews are somewhat mixed and she is indeed more shy and reactive. Linda is my go-to, even though I can tell it's simply so-so acting. Yet Linda is the cheapest around town for full access to all three holes PSE with zero hassle. Guarantee multiple pops for the hour, but experience is just as good for 30 minutes. I'd book an hour with Linda because her work ethic is really good. The appearance of the current pen is not as good as the past year, they will get the job done nicely in 30 mins, but you won't feel being 'robbed' even if booking an hour.
Those are interested in 909 should check their TER reviews, the menu listed in profiles are accurate there.
SteamTrain98
12-02-16, 17:16
Sidney may be the youngest and the best looking one on Sandra's pen, but her reviews are somewhat mixed and she is indeed more shy and reactive. Linda is my go-to, even though I can tell it's simply so-so acting. Yet Linda is the cheapest around town for full access to all three holes PSE with zero hassle. Guarantee multiple pops for the hour, but experience is just as good for 30 minutes. I'd book an hour with Linda because her work ethic is really good. The appearance of the current pen is not as good as the past year, they will get the job done nicely in 30 mins, but you won't feel being 'robbed' even if booking an hour.
Those are interested in 909 should check their TER reviews, the menu listed in profiles are accurate there.Agree with the previous comments. Sandra's girls have not been up to the same level of quality since Elsa, Gigi, and Anetta have left. I desperately miss all 3. Her girls provide great value and are very attractive, but the three I mentioned were off-the-charts when it came to how hot the sessions were. Current reviews from others on the current stable have all been pretty much the same. "Great value, lots on the menu, but very businesslike. " Hasn't really been a ringing endorsement of any of the girls in the current lineup.
What's the service comparison between the 2? I frequent 262 and find the service on average pretty good. Dfk and BBBJ are no guarantee. Most girls are sweet however some have 2 many rules. And I find some reviews on 262 are YMMV.Service, quality is basically the same between 909 and 262. More BBBJ at 909. I feel 909 is over priced with one hour sessions. I use 262 mainly because I am hopeful the booker will draw a sweet young thing from the Ukrainian pool. I like the option of paying extra for FS. I can cut my losses at 120 if no chemistry.
Also, the Polish apartment girls have proven themselves to be a third option for mongering euros in the NW burbs. Although the most affordable, I'm not a fan. The girls are former sex workers from Europe on short trips here and tend to have a mercenary attitude. I prefer the local euros trying to survive in our country. The 262 girls learn quickly to make a best effort to repeat the customer or start looking for another career.
Natefarwell
12-03-16, 00:30
http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/erotic-sensual-massage-european-pretty-good-girls-new-price30min-130-60min-170/34457954
No web site for 262, but the agency uses the same link to its BP page. Check it late morning for that days "on" girls.Thank- you very much.
I am using the "free" version of Sideline. It has ads. But, can you tell us what additional benefits the paid version offers? Maybe I should upgrade. Bob.Sorry for the delay, was having some computer issues. The paid upgrade doesn't offer a ton of extras, but I find them useful for my needs and the total cost is only $2. 99 a month.
1. Ads removed.
2. Number doesn't expire regardless of inactivity, normally if its inactive for 30 days they take the number back, this doesn't mean much if you plan on using yours regularly, but every now and then I take a 2-3+ weeks off and I don't want to lost the number.
3. VOIP Calling, I like this because it means the number works for international usage as well.
I mainly do the paid version for the number saving. The ad removal and VOIP calling are bonuses and even if it was just the number reservation I'd probably still do it.
V.
Thanks very much. That was very helpful. Bob.
Sorry for the delay, was having some computer issues. The paid upgrade doesn't offer a ton of extras, but I find them useful for my needs and the total cost is only $2. 99 a month.
1. Ads removed.
2. Number doesn't expire regardless of inactivity, normally if its inactive for 30 days they take the number back, this doesn't mean much if you plan on using yours regularly, but every now and then I take a 2-3+ weeks off and I don't want to lost the number.
3. VOIP Calling, I like this because it means the number works for international usage as well.
I mainly do the paid version for the number saving. The ad removal and VOIP calling are bonuses and even if it was just the number reservation I'd probably still do it.
V.
Thanks very much. That was very helpful. Bob.I have heard of sideline but currently use google voice which doesn't require a fee, has no ads, and you don't lose your number do to a predefined time limit of inactivity. What am I missing that sideline is a better solution to google voice? I certainly can be overlooking something obvious.
Al Melrose
12-07-16, 12:00
I have heard of sideline but currently use google voice which doesn't require a fee, has no ads, and you don't lose your number do to a predefined time limit of inactivity. What am I missing that sideline is a better solution to google voice? I certainly can be overlooking something obvious.Can send pics with google voice big drawback, that's why I use a burner. Not sure about sideline.
I use both GV & Free Sideline as a combined solution. The main problem was in my case I have a "work GV number" and a SPA GV number. The work GV number forwards to my cell phone. When I tried to forward the SPA GV number to my cell phone Google said I could not have two different GV numbers forwarding to a single cell phone. Hope that is clear. Can't have separate GV numbers forwarding to the same actual phone.
So my solution was to add a Sideline number on my cellphone. The SPA Google Voice phone number forwards to Mei ("L") and it also forwards to my Sideline phone number on my cellphone.
All that said, one drawback to GV is the level of "footprints" it leaves. All the phone calls leave various history traces that need to be cleaned.
Bob.
I have heard of sideline but currently use google voice which doesn't require a fee, has no ads, and you don't lose your number do to a predefined time limit of inactivity. What am I missing that sideline is a better solution to google voice? I certainly can be overlooking something obvious.
Can send pics with google voice big drawback, that's why I use a burner. Not sure about sideline.GV supports MMS. Why is this a drawback?
I have heard of sideline but currently use google voice which doesn't require a fee, has no ads, and you don't lose your number do to a predefined time limit of inactivity. What am I missing that sideline is a better solution to google voice? I certainly can be overlooking something obvious.
I use both GV & Free Sideline as a combined solution. The main problem was in my case I have a "work GV number" and a SPA GV number. The work GV number forwards to my cell phone. When I tried to forward the SPA GV number to my cell phone Google said I could not have two different GV numbers forwarding to a single cell phone. Hope that is clear. Can't have separate GV numbers forwarding to the same actual phone.
So my solution was to add a Sideline number on my cellphone. The SPA Google Voice phone number forwards to Mei ("L") and it also forwards to my Sideline phone number on my cellphone.
All that said, one drawback to GV is the level of "footprints" it leaves. All the phone calls leave various history traces that need to be cleaned.
Bob.One of the other things that makes sideline a little better than GV is that when you make calls from sideline, its actually using your network's phone connection, not data (unless you have paid version with voip calling turned on). I find that in areas where I don't have as great a signal the calls are better quality and not using my data.
Chicago Monger
12-08-16, 12:35
I use both GV & Free Sideline as a combined solution. The main problem was in my case I have a "work GV number" and a SPA GV number. The work GV number forwards to my cell phone. When I tried to forward the SPA GV number to my cell phone Google said I could not have two different GV numbers forwarding to a single cell phone. Hope that is clear. Can't have separate GV numbers forwarding to the same actual phone.
So my solution was to add a Sideline number on my cellphone. The SPA Google Voice phone number forwards to Mei ("L") and it also forwards to my Sideline phone number on my cellphone.
All that said, one drawback to GV is the level of "footprints" it leaves. All the phone calls leave various history traces that need to be cleaned.
Bob.Here is a FAQ off the sideline site.
Will Sideline calls show up on my phone bill?
Yes. Sideline calls show up on the monthly statement from your service provider. They'll appear like calls from your regular mobile number.
I am not sure I would want that on my bill.
Colesmithe
12-08-16, 13:54
I use both GV & Free Sideline as a combined solution. The main problem was in my case I have a "work GV number" and a SPA GV number. The work GV number forwards to my cell phone. When I tried to forward the SPA GV number to my cell phone Google said I could not have two different GV numbers forwarding to a single cell phone. Hope that is clear. Can't have separate GV numbers forwarding to the same actual phone.
So my solution was to add a Sideline number on my cellphone. The SPA Google Voice phone number forwards to Mei ("L") and it also forwards to my Sideline phone number on my cellphone.
All that said, one drawback to GV is the level of "footprints" it leaves. All the phone calls leave various history traces that need to be cleaned.
Bob.Is there email anonymity with google voice or is the user's email easily associated with the number?
Al Melrose
12-08-16, 15:40
GV supports MMS. Why is this a drawback?Typo on my part. Can't send pics with GV.
Al Melrose
12-08-16, 15:40
Is there email anonymity with google voice or is the user's email easily associated with the number?Just set up another gmail account.
We have unlimited calls and text (AT&T) and the call detail is suppressed. I suppose there is a way to retrieve the call detail. But its not on the paper bill. Bob.
Here is a FAQ off the sideline site.
Will Sideline calls show up on my phone bill?
Yes. Sideline calls show up on the monthly statement from your service provider. They'll appear like calls from your regular mobile number.
I am not sure I would want that on my bill.
Colesmithe
12-08-16, 23:52
Just set up another gmail account.That didn't answer my question -.
Typo on my part. Can't send pics with GV.Yes you can with GV. It doesn't work in the app but you can send fine when it's forwarded to your email or thru SMS.
One of the other things that makes sideline a little better than GV is that when you make calls from sideline, its actually using your network's phone connection, not data (unless you have paid version with voip calling turned on). I find that in areas where I don't have as great a signal the calls are better quality and not using my data.You can make GV calls using data if you use hangouts.
You can make GV calls using data if you use hangouts.I think you may have misunderstood my point. Sideline DOESN'T use data for calls.
You can make GV calls using data if you use hangouts.You don't actually need a phone just hangouts (google messenger), headphones with a mic and wifi. My battery died on my phone once and I called my wife on my work laptop. When it rang on her end it showed up as my GV # which I told her I use to seperate personal and work calls.
I think you may have misunderstood my point. Sideline DOESN'T use data for calls.GV doesn't have to use data either for the calls. They just forward your calls to your phone number. Or when making calls, you get routed thru a 3rd party number.
I have a regular girl I've been seeing for a while. Want to bring her to a decent room downtown or north side. Anyone interested in splitting? In case you have a girl as well and need a place for fun.
Send me a Personal Message.
I was watching a porno with four girls, where three of the girls were working over the fourth one in a really sensual, slow way. It was unbelievably hot. It made me wonder if 6-hand FBSM with a pop from each of the three girls exists out there? I've had 4-hand, sometimes it has been great, other times just so-so.
It was kind of a fluke, not totally what you want, I had an eight hand massage once. I had gone to one of the now closed places in Belvidere. There had been a horrible accident on I-90, both directions were blocked. Because of that they hadn't had many customers. I had driven on a country road and missed the road closure.
My plan was for a four hands massage. I had one of their cards so I could get two for the price of one. When I got there all these ladies were looking at me with an almost desperate "pick me please" look. I had some extra money in my pocket and said, WTF. I asked the two I had planned to see if they could handle two more. Sure, so I ended up with four ladies.
It was a little crowded and for a while everyone was a little uncomfortable. Last half hour everyone got into it and we had some fun. A couple of gals started sucking each others tits. They piled all their fists on my tool, like a baseball bat. About six to many, LOL. I was almost suffocated in breasts while my hands were in multiple pussies. Only got off once. The ladies were all happy to get the session.
You might be able to set it up if some gals are comfortable with you and have some friends to call. I might have been able to do two pops, but three, not for 30 some years.
I was watching a porno with four girls, where three of the girls were working over the fourth one in a really sensual, slow way. It was unbelievably hot. It made me wonder if 6-hand FBSM with a pop from each of the three girls exists out there? I've had 4-hand, sometimes it has been great, other times just so-so.
It was kind of a fluke, not totally what you want, I had an eight hand massage once. I had gone to one of the now closed places in Belvidere. There had been a horrible accident on I-90, both directions were blocked. Because of that they hadn't had many customers. I had driven on a country road and missed the road closure.
My plan was for a four hands massage. I had one of their cards so I could get two for the price of one. When I got there all these ladies were looking at me with an almost desperate "pick me please" look. I had some extra money in my pocket and said, WTF. I asked the two I had planned to see if they could handle two more. Sure, so I ended up with four ladies.
It was a little crowded and for a while everyone was a little uncomfortable. Last half hour everyone got into it and we had some fun. A couple of gals started sucking each others tits. They piled all their fists on my tool, like a baseball bat. About six to many, LOL. I was almost suffocated in breasts while my hands were in multiple pussies. Only got off once. The ladies were all happy to get the session.
You might be able to set it up if some gals are comfortable with you and have some friends to call. I might have been able to do two pops, but three, not for 30 some years.That sounds nice. I've done four pops in two hours, no problem if I stop jerking off for a few days and drink lots of water that week. The reason I'm asking here is because I've kind of gotten tired of my usual massage girls. I find that after I've seen someone several times, the service starts to slip and they're not trying as hard, so I really need someone new, but it's tough finding someone who works with one friend, much less two friends. And I don't want to spend 800 on this. You see my dilemma LOL.
That sounds nice. I've done four pops in two hours, no problem if I stop jerking off for a few days and drink lots of water that week. The reason I'm asking here is because I've kind of gotten tired of my usual massage girls. I find that after I've seen someone several times, the service starts to slip and they're not trying as hard, so I really need someone new, but it's tough finding someone who works with one friend, much less two friends. And I don't want to spend 800 on this. You see my dilemma LOL.Funny you mention that. I know when I have a visit planned for later in the week, I like to abstain from blowing my load for 3, 4 or 5 days and drinking a lot of water. Always fun to watch the expression on her face when Mt. St. Helens erupts.
I was watching a porno with four girls, where three of the girls were working over the fourth one in a really sensual, slow way. It was unbelievably hot. It made me wonder if 6-hand FBSM with a pop from each of the three girls exists out there? I've had 4-hand, sometimes it has been great, other times just so-so.Had a 6 hand at Ivy a few years ago when Connie was running the show. One of my most memorable experiences.
-w.
This is very good news.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/12/backpage-executives-beat-pimping-charges-case-dismissed/
Call Me Slappy
12-15-16, 11:17
I had this happen the other day, want your take on this.
Set an incall up with a BP. Typical setup, call for room when I get there. She tells me meet her on the 4th floor.
Uh, no, what's your room? She insisted on meeting on floor only, so I bailed as I didn't feel safe doing that. She kept pushing meeting on the floor that the spidey sense said "this ain't cool. ".
Anyone meet on the floor first, or do you insist on a room #?
I had this happen the other day, want your take on this.
Set an incall up with a BP. Typical setup, call for room when I get there. She tells me meet her on the 4th floor.
Uh, no, what's your room? She insisted on meeting on floor only, so I bailed as I didn't feel safe doing that. She kept pushing meeting on the floor that the spidey sense said "this ain't cool. ".
Anyone meet on the floor first, or do you insist on a room #?She just wanted to check you out first. That move is actually advantageous to the monger because it's easier to walk if you don't like the merchandise.
She just wanted to check you out first. That move is actually advantageous to the monger because it's easier to walk if you don't like the merchandise.I once had someone give me the room number but as I was walking to it, she opened a door of a room I had just walked passed. I thought I had the wrong room but she said she told me that so she could check me out first and decide whether to see me or not. I guess some are just cautious, as they should be.
Call Me Slappy
12-15-16, 14:18
She just wanted to check you out first. That move is actually advantageous to the monger because it's easier to walk if you don't like the merchandise.I've had providers tell me flat out "Could I meet you here? I'd feel safer. " or something along those lines when they explicitly state they'd feel safer meeting in a more public fashion first.
This provider just kept insisting we meet on the floor. I even asked her why, and she just said meet me on the floor. It just felt like a setup.
I've had providers tell me flat out "Could I meet you here? I'd feel safer. " or something along those lines when they explicitly state they'd feel safer meeting in a more public fashion first.
This provider just kept insisting we meet on the floor. I even asked her why, and she just said meet me on the floor. It just felt like a setup.If you think about it, this is doubtful. If it was LE, they want to get you in the room where they can control you and the situation more easily, and won't bring attention to the sting. If it was a robbery, same thing.
I've had providers tell me flat out "Could I meet you here? I'd feel safer. " or something along those lines when they explicitly state they'd feel safer meeting in a more public fashion first.
This provider just kept insisting we meet on the floor. I even asked her why, and she just said meet me on the floor. It just felt like a setup.Meeting on the same floor as the room sounds a bit shady. You should have told her to meet in the lobby. I've met providers the very first time in their room. But this is after I read their reviews.
StanleyStankas
12-15-16, 16:57
I had this happen the other day, want your take on this.
Set an incall up with a BP. Typical setup, call for room when I get there. She tells me meet her on the 4th floor.
Uh, no, what's your room? She insisted on meeting on floor only, so I bailed as I didn't feel safe doing that. She kept pushing meeting on the floor that the spidey sense said "this ain't cool. ".
Anyone meet on the floor first, or do you insist on a room #?For you I think you did the right thing in the moment in that you were not comfortable with the situation. As observers we can only guess what the situation might have been. Could have been anything or even legit. I would I. D. Myself for her comfort but she would not get even a look at my donation until we were in the room and I was comfortable that we were the only ones in the room. Worse case she could have led you in to be robbed. Best case of course she was being careful. I know all of this is all pretty obvious to the members here, but slappy did ask for ones take. When doing outcalls this pro I knew did the following- (just as information what might be going thru a providers mind on an outcall even though I know this was an in for you) - she would phone from downstairs on her cell to get the mongers room number. She would then tell him to leave the door unlocked and cracked open with either the night latch in it's way or if it would stay open w / o something to block it. She told him to just sit down in the room and don't come out or go to the door that she would just walk in. From there she would walk slowly past the room prior, after and on both sides and be still to listen or smell cigarette smoke, talking or any activity really. If she felt comfortable she would back track and enter and the monger would enjoy her service. However, much of what she did / does was incall in her river north apartment. Very low key place and minimal eyes upon her situation.
Call Me Slappy
12-15-16, 18:26
I guess the big thing for me was how she said it and the tone of her voice when she said it. Something just didn't feel right. And this was while the little head was really wanting to take control.
My gut said no, so I listened to the big head.
Evidently this has been acceptable and worked for some of you out there, so I guess as with anything in this hobby, YMMV!
For you I think you did the right thing in the moment in that you were not comfortable with the situation. As observers we can only guess what the situation might have been. Could have been anything or even legit. I would I. D. Myself for her comfort but she would not get even a look at my donation until we were in the room and I was comfortable that we were the only ones in the room. Worse case she could have led you in to be robbed. Best case of course she was being careful. I know all of this is all pretty obvious to the members here, but slappy did ask for ones take. When doing outcalls this pro I knew did the following- (just as information what might be going thru a providers mind on an outcall even though I know this was an in for you) - she would phone from downstairs on her cell to get the mongers room number. She would then tell him to leave the door unlocked and cracked open with either the night latch in it's way or if it would stay open w / o something to block it. She told him to just sit down in the room and don't come out or go to the door that she would just walk in. From there she would walk slowly past the room prior, after and on both sides and be still to listen or smell cigarette smoke, talking or any activity really. If she felt comfortable she would back track and enter and the monger would enjoy her service. However, much of what she did / does was incall in her river north apartment. Very low key place and minimal eyes upon her situation.
I had this happen the other day, want your take on this.
Set an incall up with a BP. Typical setup, call for room when I get there. She tells me meet her on the 4th floor.
Uh, no, what's your room? She insisted on meeting on floor only, so I bailed as I didn't feel safe doing that. She kept pushing meeting on the floor that the spidey sense said "this ain't cool. ".
Anyone meet on the floor first, or do you insist on a room #?Agree with what the others said. HOWEVER, it is always safe to trust your gut. Bail if things don't feel right.
CoolPatrick
12-16-16, 12:22
http://www.height-weight-chart.com/heightweight.html
I stumbled upon this website. Interesting to see girls uploading their images to show others how specific height-weight ratio looks like. This may be helpful for us upon reading the description of providers, that is, assuming the digits are close enough to the actual figures.
ToplessnCago
12-16-16, 16:10
http://www.height-weight-chart.com/heightweight.html
I stumbled upon this website. Interesting to see girls uploading their images to show others how specific height-weight ratio looks like. This may be helpful for us upon reading the description of providers, that is, assuming the digits are close enough to the actual figures.Seems like you have to add 20 to everything you see online. Age, weight, price.
CoolPatrick
12-17-16, 19:46
Seems like you have to add 20 to everything you see online. Age, weight, price.I'm sure most readers know that. The point is, you can still find the right illustration after adding 20 to the weight.
She's with a gangbang group on January 7th. Seniors, if you want the info private message me with a name and number of a UTR for trade. The UTR has to accept all races and types, be talented and let me know those talents (I love greek), and if she needs a reference give me a name I can mention.
I appreciate the responses. But there's a misunderstanding that maybe I didn't make clear. Its not "MY" gangbang. I didn't organize it and am NOT trying to make a profit. I belong to a number of swinger / gangbang clubs. One of them is throwing their regular monthly party and Holly and a couple of wives will be there. They keep a ratio of a lot of guys and about 3 girls. It's a blast but it's a party group throwing it. The beauty is that most of the civilians have little to no idea that Holly is a popular Chicago escort. They usually have aspiring porn actresses / internet gals as the stars and some novice wives for the innocent feel. The point is, if you've paid a premium for Holly's skills, and they are skills, then now you can get it for about $60 or so bucks (I believe that's the price, but it's definitely no more than $80).
At the party (used to be in a loft or they rent out a swing club), they offer catering in one section and after a little time announcements and rules are given, mostly what the ladies will or won't do. Next everyone moves to a fucking area and the men attack. They supply towels, showers, and lube. No camera's or anything. It used to be a retired sheriff who started it in his basement (fucking hilarious). I went to those more than 10 yrs ago and they were great. Then he sold the club to another party group in north burbs.
The parties are first come first serve and they ALWAYS sell out. So you must RSVP with the info I send. If you don't know Holly Look her up!
So for those that have contacted me, you need a trade.
ZeroDark13
12-23-16, 17:04
"I didn't organize it and am NOT trying to make a profit. ".
"So for those that have contacted me, you need a trade. ".
Yeah, okay.
DMichaels69
12-23-16, 18:50
She is very public and has many reviews. No need to trade.
"I didn't organize it and am NOT trying to make a profit. ".
"So for those that have contacted me, you need a trade. ".
Yeah, okay.
The point is, if you've paid a premium for Holly's skills, and they are skills, then now you can get it for about $60 or so bucks (I believe that's the price, but it's definitely no more than $80).
So for those that have contacted me, you need a trade.It is obvious that you have not read all the info provided by the site. The monthly membership for events is normally $60.00 for males but for special events the membership fee is different. For the event when Holly Berry is scheduled, the membership fee is $150 plus a processing fee.
Why ask for a trade for information that is available by doing a gangbang search on google? I would be happy to provide the info, no trade necessary.
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Travel Guy
12-24-16, 09:11
If anyone has information and Liz please PM me.
Chicago Monger
12-24-16, 11:02
I appreciate the responses. But there's a misunderstanding that maybe I didn't make clear. Its not "MY" gangbang. I didn't organize it and am NOT trying to make a profit. I belong to a number of swinger / gangbang clubs. One of them is throwing their regular monthly party and Holly and a couple of wives will be there. They keep a ratio of a lot of guys and about 3 girls. It's a blast but it's a party group throwing it. The beauty is that most of the civilians have little to no idea that Holly is a popular Chicago escort. They usually have aspiring porn actresses / internet gals as the stars and some novice wives for the innocent feel. The point is, if you've paid a premium for Holly's skills, and they are skills, then now you can get it for about $60 or so bucks (I believe that's the price, but it's definitely no more than $80).
At the party (used to be in a loft or they rent out a swing club), they offer catering in one section and after a little time announcements and rules are given, mostly what the ladies will or won't do. Next everyone moves to a fucking area and the men attack. They supply towels, showers, and lube. No camera's or anything. It used to be a retired sheriff who started it in his basement (fucking hilarious). I went to those more than 10 yrs ago and they were great. Then he sold the club to another party group in north burbs.
The parties are first come first serve and they ALWAYS sell out. So you must RSVP with the info I send. If you don't know Holly Look her up!
So for those that have contacted me, you need a trade.Trade for something that is public. I am confused of the motivation. http://midwestfantasyadventures.com/homeframe.htm there is the link for those that can't find the GB. Tis the season for sharing. HOE HOE HOE This group does parties monthly.
Need some help. I'm looking for a free, or cheap, place that does std testing around the south side of Chicago. I would like to not have to use my insurance and try to keep it confidential.
Need some help. I'm looking for a free, or cheap, place that does std testing around the south side of Chicago. I would like to not have to use my insurance and try to keep it confidential.A lot of free clinics offer STD screening, but before you just walk into one, you should check for more details. Was talking to a provider about doing bare and she wanted me to bring paperwork proving I was clean before the deed would be done. She suggested a local free clinic as both cheap and UTR as far as insurance goes, said she used it to make sure she was still clean.
There's a girl that was posting on some of the provider sites. True college girl, nice early 20's white girl. Back in town this week. Not sure if she's providing services. Anyone else keep contact with her?
Just curious if this sounds familiar to anyone. Send me PM
Was supposed to meet up with a friend this summer, when she threw in the offer to have her friend join us. Friend turned out to be SO MUCH better than friend ever has been. Skinny, young adult blonde. Flexible body, perfect breasts. Haven't contacted in a while, seems she has a new number. Originally lived in the South burbs with her grandmother, was moving more toward North suburbs last I talked to her. Really sweet young woman, carefree attitude. Sound familiar to anyone? Send me PM.
Any experienced hobbies want to share info on GBs? All my encounters have been flipped non pros, or providers that have been persuaded. I have been seeing a regular girl who's a total freak. She might be down for a MMMF soon.
PM me.
Troy Akerman
12-29-16, 10:50
Let me know when you're looking to do this. I am in
Any experienced hobbies want to share info on GBs? All my encounters have been flipped non pros, or providers that have been persuaded. I have been seeing a regular girl who's a total freak. She might be down for a MMMF soon.
PM me..
ChiHappiness
12-29-16, 12:31
Need some help. I'm looking for a free, or cheap, place that does std testing around the south side of Chicago. I would like to not have to use my insurance and try to keep it confidential.Use google to find some place close to you there are labs all over the place. When you go, you have the option not to use your insurance.
Head First
12-29-16, 12:40
Need some help. I'm looking for a free, or cheap, place that does std testing around the south side of Chicago. I would like to not have to use my insurance and try to keep it confidential.A quick search turned up these free clinics on the s side.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=free+std+testing+chicago+south+side.
Good luck.
Chicago Monger
12-29-16, 16:36
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/crime/ct-lns-john-arrests-st-0204-20150203-story.html
Looks recent.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/crime/ct-lns-john-arrests-st-0204-20150203-story.html
Looks recent.I think this report was from last year. Just another waste of resources and money.
I think this report was from last year. Just another waste of resources and money.Byline notes: Feb 3, 2015.
-almost 2 years old.
And have any recommendations? I'll be up there for business next month. I have a nice hotel and want to have someone over but having trouble finding someone who fulfills my needs and also does outcalls. I found someone on P411 who was perfect, but she won't do an outcall until she's met me at least once. I went through a bunch on P411, all either won't do outcalls, have mediocre reviews, charge a ridiculous rate, or don't provide the services I want (BBBJNQNS at a minimum).
I'd ask on the Minneapolis board here but it's kind of a ghost town.
Trade for something that is public. I am confused of the motivation. http://midwestfantasyadventures.com/homeframe.htm there is the link for those that can't find the GB. Tis the season for sharing. HOE HOE HOE This group does parties monthly.I was thinking the exact same thing, but didn't get around to posting any info or links. Sh*ts out there, why request trade for?
College girl back in town for the holidays. Invited me over to spend the night. Not as a client.
The conversation was just flowing. Then I delve into something that really hit home for her, as she asked me to leave.
What promised to be a nice time ended up with me going home to the wife instead. What a way to end the year. Hope you all had a better week and year end!
College girl back in town for the holidays. Invited me over to spend the night. Not as a client.
The conversation was just flowing. Then I delve into something that really hit home for her, as she asked me to leave.
What promised to be a nice time ended up with me going home to the wife instead. What a way to end the year. Hope you all had a better week and year end!LOL what did you say, you voted for Trump?
LOL what did you say, you voted for Trump?Yeah, politics was part culprit. Though not exactly a vote for Trump. She had made me feel like I could be open with her, which I always try to be. Usually.
Guess not. Got the boot.
Shame since she had a nice hotel room. I assume she had seen a client earlier in the day, we never got to talk about that before I was going home.
Either way, my 2017 resolution is now to have more sex with the wife anyway. As my side skins have not been anything to write home about lately.
DMichaels69
01-01-17, 12:13
Good resolution. Happy New Year!
Yeah, politics was part culprit. Though not exactly a vote for Trump. She had made me feel like I could be open with her, which I always try to be. Usually.
Guess not. Got the boot.
Shame since she had a nice hotel room. I assume she had seen a client earlier in the day, we never got to talk about that before I was going home.
Either way, my 2017 resolution is now to have more sex with the wife anyway. As my side skins have not been anything to write home about lately.
Member #5589
01-03-17, 16:11
http://www.portraitprobody.com/gallery/
This software is scary.
Any recommendations? Or anyone want to split a girl MMF tonight? I'm kinda horny. LOL.
I hate to break the bad news, but the owner of rs2000 has been busted for tax evasion. This means the federal government has all the records from rs2000. It's just a matter of time before they start looking into who was using her service.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/owner-of-escort-ad-site-going-to-prison-for-not-paying-taxes/
ZeroDark13
01-07-17, 13:30
I hate to break the bad news, but the owner of rs2000 has been busted for tax evasion. This means the federal government has all the records from rs2000. It's just a matter of time before they start looking into who was using her service.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/owner-of-escort-ad-site-going-to-prison-for-not-paying-taxes/If you get busted for tax invasion, they have your tax and financial records. She's going to jail, so she didn't make a deal, which I'm sure she could have, by giving the Feds access to the RS2 K system. If she'd been arrested in connection with RS2 K operations, I'd be worried. If she made a deal for reduced jail time in exchange for access to the system, I'd be worried. The feds even say in the article that they don't care how she makes her living, just that she paid income on it.
DMichaels69
01-07-17, 13:42
Exactly. Great reading comprehension.
If you get busted for tax invasion, they have your tax and financial records. She's going to jail, so she didn't make a deal, which I'm sure she could have, by giving the Feds access to the RS2 K system. If she'd been arrested in connection with RS2 K operations, I'd be worried. If she made a deal for reduced jail time in exchange for access to the system, I'd be worried. The feds even say in the article that they don't care how she makes her living, just that she paid income on it.
I hate to break the bad news, but the owner of rs2000 has been busted for tax evasion. This means the federal government has all the records from rs2000. It's just a matter of time before they start looking into who was using her service.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/owner-of-escort-ad-site-going-to-prison-for-not-paying-taxes/
Exactly. Great reading comprehension.If she's going to jail in a little over a week she was busted a while ago. They've had this information for months at least and it has most likely been business as usual during that time. The article even says the feds talked to her in 2008 and she's been running it ever since, with no interest other than the tax money. Either way bet p411 gets more business now since they're in canada I believe.
-w.
Just saw one of my favorites in Schaumburg. She just returned to town and is very energetic and friendly as always. She's a cute petite blonde, mid 20's, very eager to please. Amazing CBJ, DATY, multiple position then finally popped. She never rushes and I always leave with a smile. Highly recommended. Seniors PM me for her info.
A fellow hobby gave me number for a girl he couldn't see. He knew I had time and am open to TOFTT. Got there and, of course, pics were nowhere near as hot as reality. Yup, bait and switch. Very good at taking pics with good angles that hide bigger stomach and stretch marks all over legs.
Located just off of 32nd and a couple blocks west of Halsted. Don't feel she's worth the $$. 5 request.
A couple I know are interested in a MMMMF, but they want guys in their 20's or 30's with athletic builds. This is NOT my requirement, it is the girl's request. Looking for a couple of guys. My gang bang plans often fall apart due to busy work travel schedule, but am trying to set this up for this week or weekend. Send PM.
Quick note: This month Chicago Art Institute is Free on weekdays for Illinois residents. Normally $25 admission. Took L there yesterday for her birthday. Also went to Macy's. She actually liked the Art Institute better. Of course everybody is different, but Art (and music) can be real cultural equalizers. An American guy and a Chinese woman can look at the same painting. Like Monet waterlilies and both of us can appreciate the subtle beauty. So if you have a friend, this a great outing.
Also, I found a decent Chinese and Bilingual collection of Books and Poems on Amazon Kindle. Dirt cheap also. Download the Kindle reader to Phone or laptop.
Lastly, I cleared my inbox. I know some folks tried to reach me. Sorry. Bob.
Quick note: This month Chicago Art Institute is Free on weekdays for Illinois residents. Normally $25 admission. Took L there yesterday for her birthday. Also went to Macy's. She actually liked the Art Institute better. Of course everybody is different, but Art (and music) can be real cultural equalizers. An American guy and a Chinese woman can look at the same painting. Like Monet waterlilies and both of us can appreciate the subtle beauty. So if you have a friend, this a great outing.
Also, I found a decent Chinese and Bilingual collection of Books and Poems on Amazon Kindle. Dirt cheap also. Download the Kindle reader to Phone or laptop.
Lastly, I cleared my inbox. I know some folks tried to reach me. Sorry. Bob.This whole thing makes me throw up, yikes. People were trying to get her digits man, it's okay.
This whole thing makes me throw up, yikes. People were trying to get her digits man, it's okay.I just want to mention how much I love this site. I cancelled the sun times, this is the only newspaper I need. Where else could you have a guy like charmo looking to pork a chick with a couple dudes and then the next post is bob going to the art institute. I'm not knocking either one of the posts, just saying you get to see how different we all are, and this is our place to not be judged, for the most part.
As a member of such site, I'm a little worried about the Feds getting a hold of member info and using that against us. Should we be worried?
As a member of such site, I'm a little worried about the Feds getting a hold of member info and using that against us. Should we be worried?I personally do not see any reason to be worried and yes, I also have such a membership. What could anyone do with the info. They cannot arrest me for having one. Nothing is booked through RS2 K so they have no history of anywhere I would have an appointment. If the cops were in my local video store watching the adult section and they saw me pick up a copy of Chicago After Dark, what could they do with that? There are adult classifieds for massage and escorts in that publication, same as on the RS2 K web site.
The worst I could see them doing is threatening to inform my family or work. I do not seem them wasting that kind of time for such little to gain.
I just want to mention how much I love this site. I cancelled the sun times, this is the only newspaper I need. Where else could you have a guy like charmo looking to pork a chick with a couple dudes and then the next post is bob going to the art institute. I'm not knocking either one of the posts, just saying you get to see how different we all are, and this is our place to not be judged, for the most part.I have to say, and with no offense to Bob of course, that art institute comment is the best laugh I've had in a long time =P.
As a member of such site, I'm a little worried about the Feds getting a hold of member info and using that against us. Should we be worried?We are small fish dude.
We are small fish dude.
i agree, we are. They are more interested in the money.
https://youtu.be/Q0jsx16ifbM?t=112
I found this Youtube video of local Uks celebrating the new year up in Wisconsin. Ukrainians are truly a peculiar group of people. The boys and girls roam in these packs throughout our city. I can assure you that they are all nailing each other. No social stigmas to threesomes for these folks. You can tell the difference between them and the Polish. If you notice, they are about twenty pounds lighter and dress well.
What's this got to do with anything? Sooner or later, one of these sweet things is going to come looking for the "work", be it for substance, luxury, or financial empowerment. There's only one pimp in town with the drawing power to turn one of these Ua beauties to the business. That's why we support the 262 agency.
Have a great day.
Riina.
StanleyStankas
01-13-17, 11:35
I personally do not see any reason to be worried and yes, I also have such a membership. What could anyone do with the info. They cannot arrest me for having one. Nothing is booked through RS2 K so they have no history of anywhere I would have an appointment. If the cops were in my local video store watching the adult section and they saw me pick up a copy of Chicago After Dark, what could they do with that? There are adult classifieds for massage and escorts in that publication, same as on the RS2 K web site.
The worst I could see them doing is threatening to inform my family or work. I do not seem them wasting that kind of time for such little to gain.I know of the owner but do not know her personally. She was / is based out of a burb nearby me when I lived out there about 10 years ago. It's a verification site and if one was a member so be it. Looks like she's going down for tax evasion. She was not a pimp or pandering for business. I don't see why the feds or a law enforcement agency would want the info. If she was forward thinking she should have deleted all of that but probably didn't. Even if she did there would be ways to get info. Again the feds may have the info but what would they do with it? It's a tax case.
Rocket Dork
01-13-17, 12:01
Saw her today and is hosting in Fox Lake today til 5. Great woman. Karjon0424@gmail.com Rocket Dork.
Oh I don't ever take offense. The suggestion was really intended for the (large number of) members that have (or want) relationships with Asian women. My main thesis, as most people know from my history of reports, is that many (if not most) of these women are interesting and intelligent. They have pretty bad jobs under very difficult circumstances. If you can find a way to bridge the language barrier (using WeChat and Google Translate) and if you establish contact, (either phone or WeChat), you would be absolutely astonished. Now clearly, it stops being an financial transaction. It becomes an emotional investment. Much more intense.
By the way 90% of the unattached Chinese women that L and I see ask me if I can introduce them to a nice guy. But really, its pretty easy to be a nice guy. Remember (write down) her (Chinese) name. Get her contact information. Learn a little Chinese. Talk to her. Take her someplace amazing, like the Art Institute, especially when it is free.
I'll close by mentioning, that L told me the name of her favorite Chinese Poet. So, for her birthday, I ordered a copy of his work and caligraphy. (Amazon) It arrived yesterday at our shop. She was saying "What is this? What is this?" Then, "Oh! Happy Birthday to me! Happy Birthday to me! Happy Birthday to me!" She was delighted and I felt like a king. It only cost $8, but to her, worth 10 x as much. Bob.
I just want to mention how much I love this site. I cancelled the sun times, this is the only newspaper I need. Where else could you have a guy like charmo looking to pork a chick with a couple dudes and then the next post is bob going to the art institute. I'm not knocking either one of the posts, just saying you get to see how different we all are, and this is our place to not be judged, for the most part.
About to meet up with a friend. She's feeling freaky. Any guys down to join in? Hetero only! South side or downtown, depending on how many guys want to come through and pitch in for a room.
https://youtu.be/Q0jsx16ifbM?t=112
I found this Youtube video of local Uks celebrating the new year up in Wisconsin. Ukrainians are truly a peculiar group of people. The boys and girls roam in these packs throughout our city. I can assure you that they are all nailing each other. No social stigmas to threesomes for these folks. You can tell the difference between them and the Polish. If you notice, they are about twenty pounds lighter and dress well.
What's this got to do with anything? Sooner or later, one of these sweet things is going to come looking for the "work", be it for substance, luxury, or financial empowerment. There's only one pimp in town with the drawing power to turn one of these Ua beauties to the business. That's why we support the 262 agency.
Have a great day.
Riina.Don't know about what happens between the Ukrainians on Christmas, but watched the video and have to ask: young people, booze and sparklers, all inside a house. What could go wrong? .
Our fun for the night had to end earlier than planned. I have a room, Hyde park area. If anyone is out looking for fun and needs a spot.
Yes, I was able to bust one out, BTW.
Our fun for the night had to end earlier than planned. I have a room, Hyde park area. If anyone is out looking for fun and needs a spot.
Yes, I was able to bust one out, BTW.I might be interested. I'm in Hyde Park for a few hours, work related.
Saw this post in my FB, thought someone might use it. Hope it is allowe to post it.
We want everyone to have easy and affordable accessibility to HIV testing. Now through the duration of the exhibition, we will have free, on-site HIV testing available for everyone with help from our partners Howard Brown Health Center on Halsted Test Positive Aware Network Chicago House and Social Service Agency and Ann & Robert H. Lurie Children's Hospital of Chicago.
I might be interested. I'm in Hyde Park for a few hours, work related.PM or email, I think you have my email? Are you in Hyde Park area? I can give you a heads up ahead of time.
I am looking for some east / south Indian providers.
Please PM or respond here if you have any contacts. Tried couple from BP who claim themselves as East Indians but not.
Thanks in advance.
I have a very good friend who trolls on here but never posts and is a frequent user of our intel and enjoys massage parlors. He recently visited a gal who advertises on Eros and after doing the deed and getting dressed he was told that she had a video of them and for a small fee she would delete it, otherwise she would go to his wife. He asked for proof and she refused, but he said he told her he wasn't married so go ahead. Maybe it was BS but maybe not. These days it's easy to hide a camera, so be aware.
Daz.
I have a very good friend who trolls on here but never posts and is a frequent user of our intel and enjoys massage parlors. He recently visited a gal who advertises on Eros and after doing the deed and getting dressed he was told that she had a video of them and for a small fee she would delete it, otherwise she would go to his wife. He asked for proof and she refused, but he said he told her he wasn't married so go ahead. Maybe it was BS but maybe not. These days it's easy to hide a camera, so be aware.
Daz.Could you post either the details to the place that did this, or some sort of information that would help guys out there try to avoid?
Busy with work. Anything going on tonight? Anyone have a girl to recommend, a BP must see, or a girl down for a MMF? Of GB tonight? My friends are unavailable tonight.
I have a very good friend who trolls on here but never posts and is a frequent user of our intel and enjoys massage parlors. He recently visited a gal who advertises on Eros and after doing the deed and getting dressed he was told that she had a video of them and for a small fee she would delete it, otherwise she would go to his wife. He asked for proof and she refused, but he said he told her he wasn't married so go ahead. Maybe it was BS but maybe not. These days it's easy to hide a camera, so be aware.
Daz.Since he takes advantage of all the free info here, the least he could do is tell us who the hell it is so nobody else gets scammed!!
I have a very good friend who trolls on here but never posts and is a frequent user of our intel and enjoys massage parlors. He recently visited a gal who advertises on Eros and after doing the deed and getting dressed he was told that she had a video of them and for a small fee she would delete it, otherwise she would go to his wife. He asked for proof and she refused, but he said he told her he wasn't married so go ahead. Maybe it was BS but maybe not. These days it's easy to hide a camera, so be aware.
Daz.OR, if he is gun shy or paranoid, maybe he can tell you and you can tell us. If he is nervous about posting here, she must have picked up fear in his face or scent, as dogs are able to do. Then she tried to bully. Blackmail, and extort him-- The last I heard blackmail was, and is a far more serious crime than mongering. KARMA.
Anyone want to meet at Twin Peaks this Sunday?
Adrick Ian
01-24-17, 00:39
Anyone want to meet at Twin Peaks this Sunday?What time? I might be able to make it.
I'm with "L". Every day, actually. Great deep tissue legit massage. 10 minutes from Peaks. Sorry. Bob.
Anyone want to meet at Twin Peaks this Sunday?
Hey Guys. I was listening to old fart radio yesterday driving to a rendezvous and they were talking about this being Human Trafficking month and that with the Super Bowl is just around the corner! My monger alert system went off and to be very careful of stings!
Just be wary of new sweet young things posting their sexiness or Hey, I'm back in town. Do your research and listen to your gut feelings! Be safe out there!
I have several guesses why tattoos are so prevalent among providers vs the general population where among the white providers it's more common to find a provider with tattoos than without.
My guess is that people who get their tattoos are people are make impulsive decisions that don't think it through.
Another guess is that people who get tattoos are somewhat "detached" from their bodies.
I have several guesses why tattoos are so prevalent among providers vs the general population where among the white providers it's more common to find a provider with tattoos than without.
My guess is that people who get their tattoos are people are make impulsive decisions that don't think it through.
Another guess is that people who get tattoos are somewhat "detached" from their bodies.I always felt tatted young people were expressing their preference for an alternative lifestyle from the traditional. I see it as well with hipsters and most are not impulsive.
StanleyStankas
01-24-17, 14:34
I have several guesses why tattoos are so prevalent among providers vs the general population where among the white providers it's more common to find a provider with tattoos than without.
My guess is that people who get their tattoos are people are make impulsive decisions that don't think it through.
Another guess is that people who get tattoos are somewhat "detached" from their bodies.As an old senior citizen that still enjoys looking at a young lovely, I think tats and piercings on women of any age are a major turnoff! While I was still w / the x gf we went out to the mountains to visit her family and I met her niece and the future husband. Pretty girl, however she had what was known as a sleeve. To me the entire arm and elbow looked like a rand mc nally color road map. When we left I said to my lady she is going to wear a beautiful white wedding dress, she's young and pretty and have that sleeve? Well needless to say the wedding never happened as the guy seemed kinda trailer trashy imo- actually with that sleeve she looked same! Just imo and I know with the younger people they are popular. No opinion on why they exist and really could care less. I don't have any, never will and won't pay for a provider w / tats or piercings if I can help it by them not concealing. BTW- was looking at visiting the palomino strip club while out in lv, but then I look on their site and just about every girl pictured is heavily tated!
I don't like tattoos on a lady either. Just seeing one on a young beauty makes me shake my head. It's like spray painting over a Monet. These girls should know they would make more money without that ugly ink.
HenrySmall
01-24-17, 16:06
I'm going to guess that most of the provider population is in the Millennial demographic, likely with a majority under 30.
This comports with the fact that younger people are also less conservative and more accepting of diversity in many forms. Due to the changes in demographics, what was once a taboo is now completely within the realm of normalcy. I like this change. My experience growing up in the 70's' was one of conformity and pressure to toe a much more conservative line. Things are much better in this regard today.
I find that when I hear people decry others choices (be they tattoos, piercings, funny hair, or being out and gay etc etc.) they are indirectly disapproving of the fact that people have a much broader range of choices when it comes to expressing their identity. It feels quite mean to say "kids these days shouldn't have all these damned choices!
The downside is that when I got my first tattoo as a punk in the 80's' it had a lot more significance than it does today. Then it was a glaring FU to my parents, society, and authority (and Reagan) and signified my membership in a bonafide subculture. Pretty much a fashion choice now!
As an old senior citizen that still enjoys looking at a young lovely, I think tats and piercings on women of any age are a major turnoff! While I was still w / the x gf we went out to the mountains to visit her family and I met her niece and the future husband. Pretty girl, however she had what was known as a sleeve. To me the entire arm and elbow looked like a rand mc nally color road map. When we left I said to my lady she is going to wear a beautiful white wedding dress, she's young and pretty and have that sleeve? Well needless to say the wedding never happened as the guy seemed kinda trailer trashy imo- actually with that sleeve she looked same! Just imo and I know with the younger people they are popular. No opinion on why they exist and really could care less. I don't have any, never will and won't pay for a provider w / tats or piercings if I can help it by them not concealing. BTW- was looking at visiting the palomino strip club while out in lv, but then I look on their site and just about every girl pictured is heavily tated!
What time? I might be able to make it.Around 12:00 noon or 1:00. I'm pretty open on time.
I'm sure 90% of the guys on the forum know this, but for the other 10% Friday Sundown begins Chinese New Year, (year of the Roster) aka Spring Festival. Red Envelops with money are common. But in any event wish your friends well. Says: Xiannian Kuaile Happy New Year.
Here's a guide.
http://www.chinahighlights.com/travelguide/special-report/chinese-new-year/
https://www.travelchinaguide.com/essential/holidays/new-year/customs.htm
http://www.chinahighlights.com/travelguide/festivals/chinese-new-year-greetings.htm
Interestingly, I read that Fish is a favored dish. And Red underwear wards off bad luck.
Best of luck, and I wish you all peace, happiness, and prosperity in the New Year. Bob.
ZeroDark13
01-25-17, 00:01
The same personality traits that might lead someone into being heavily tattooed are the ones that might lead an attractive young woman to become a sex worker. Sounds like you want the honey, but hate the bees.
PussyPoker
01-25-17, 22:06
Anyone want to meet at Twin Peaks this Sunday?Place and time please.
Around 12:00 noon or 1:00. I'm pretty open on time.
Place and time please.On Milwaukee Ave and Lake Cook Road. Around 12:00 noon on Sunday.
As an old senior citizen that still enjoys looking at a young lovely, I think tats and piercings on women of any age are a major turnoff! While I was still w / the x gf we went out to the mountains to visit her family and I met her niece and the future husband. Pretty girl, however she had what was known as a sleeve. To me the entire arm and elbow looked like a rand mc nally color road map. When we left I said to my lady she is going to wear a beautiful white wedding dress, she's young and pretty and have that sleeve? Well needless to say the wedding never happened as the guy seemed kinda trailer trashy imo- actually with that sleeve she looked same! Just imo and I know with the younger people they are popular. No opinion on why they exist and really could care less. I don't have any, never will and won't pay for a provider w / tats or piercings if I can help it by them not concealing. BTW- was looking at visiting the palomino strip club while out in lv, but then I look on their site and just about every girl pictured is heavily tated!I am probably your age, and was always for younger people expressing themselves or just trying to get attention. BUT that having been said, go back and look at photos of you and your friends 25 years ago. Pants, hair length etc Gawd awful. So what these tatooees do not seem to get is that this ink will not look cool in a few more years. In fact it will look ridiculous! We simply gave our paid pants, bell bottoms or banlon to Salvation Army. These "utes" of today are going to have a rough time. Laser removal is expensive painful (though for a short time) , and still leaves scars. So a sleeve, please. "Think before you INK". And careful and enjoy Vegas!
Call Me Slappy
01-26-17, 15:15
Just went to do my usual research on a provider (her, P411, other sites, etc.), and I can't reach the other site.
Is this happening for anyone else? I use a VPN when surfing, and sometimes it's not a reliable connection.
Thanks,
Slappy.
StanleyStankas
01-26-17, 16:43
I am probably your age, and was always for younger people expressing themselves or just trying to get attention. BUT that having been said, go back and look at photos of you and your friends 25 years ago. Pants, hair length etc Gawd awful. So what these tatooees do not seem to get is that this ink will not look cool in a few more years. In fact it will look ridiculous! We simply gave our paid pants, bell bottoms or banlon to Salvation Army. These "utes" of today are going to have a rough time. Laser removal is expensive painful (though for a short time) , and still leaves scars. So a sleeve, please. "Think before you INK". And careful and enjoy Vegas!Maybe 45 years ago! Ha! I am that old and that stale and still that horny! No I agree. It is a matter of expression. I am on lawrence but west of milwaukee (the good side), however the only time I go east of milwaukee late at night is on my way back from my cubbie games. So 10 ish 11 ish or so on a night game the only people doing business on that street are the tat shops, the liguor stores and the strip joint! So yea, impulse decisions being made late night and kinda drunk? Probably but I agree its an expression. Riding back on my bicycle ride today I saw a young girl again I am sure she was 18 at least (asian I believe) walking her dog by that massage parlor east of nagle on lawrence. All blue hair (bright blue). Now to me that is a major turnoff but she is not interested in turning on old farts that could be her grandfather anyway so yea I agree its a generational thing.
FrankyCando
01-26-17, 22:49
I have several guesses why tattoos are so prevalent among providers vs the general population where among the white providers it's more common to find a provider with tattoos than without.
My guess is that people who get their tattoos are people are make impulsive decisions that don't think it through.
Another guess is that people who get tattoos are somewhat "detached" from their bodies.A tat here and there is ok. But when overly done its a large turn off for me and a sign to keep away. Attention seeking / monkey see monkey do and if they are sweet looking or fugly they themselves know it was a mistake years later,I know woman personally that have admitted that to me
unclassy
I had a business a few years ago and a very attractive smart like but tatted up heavy arms ,neck and what you could see of upper chest and piercings heavily came in looking for a job told her to leave name and number and if needed I would call her ,she asks me if I will throw that number away after she leaves out the door and I thought about if for a few seconds and told her yes I will throw it away she asked why and I told her its a people business an her look would not work for us ,she said that's illegal .....I told her seek legal help then
sheet I know fellas that get many on there bottom legs and then they revolve their whole wardrobe and life around them ....yea you guys that wear shorts all the time in 20 below weather,I have a few nephews like that
FrankyCando
01-26-17, 23:11
Maybe 45 years ago! Ha! I am that old and that stale and still that horny! No I agree. It is a matter of expression. I am on lawrence but west of milwaukee (the good side), however the only time I go east of milwaukee late at night is on my way back from my cubbie games. So 10 ish 11 ish or so on a night game the only people doing business on that street are the tat shops, the liguor stores and the strip joint! So yea, impulse decisions being made late night and kinda drunk? Probably but I agree its an expression. Riding back on my bicycle ride today I saw a young girl again I am sure she was 18 at least (asian I believe) walking her dog by that massage parlor east of nagle on lawrence. All blue hair (bright blue). Now to me that is a major turnoff but she is not interested in turning on old farts that could be her grandfather anyway so yea I agree its a generational thing.I am betting we live on the same block.
Head First
01-26-17, 23:48
I'm sure 90% of the guys on the forum know this, but for the other 10% Friday Sundown begins Chinese New Year, (year of the Roster) aka Spring Festival. Red Envelops with money are common. But in any event wish your friends well. Says: Xiannian Kuaile Happy New Year.
Here's a guide.
http://www.chinahighlights.com/travelguide/special-report/chinese-new-year/
https://www.travelchinaguide.com/essential/holidays/new-year/customs.htm
http://www.chinahighlights.com/travelguide/festivals/chinese-new-year-greetings.htm
Interestingly, I read that Fish is a favored dish. And Red underwear wards off bad luck.
Best of luck, and I wish you all peace, happiness, and prosperity in the New Year. Bob.Thanks Bob for posting this very useful info. I learned a few things.
Now I understand better why one of my 'friends' gifted me a pair of red underwear after her last trip home. At the time I thought it was a crazy gift.
"Xiannian Kuaile" to you and L.
Back at you.
Might amuse you to hear of my hunt for red panties. Of course I was alone, (L was not there). And I scouted though rows and rows of choices. Had to "feel" the smoothness and comfort. Also took some photos. Had to rule out trashy items I know she would not wear. I swear to God, I can't believe security did not arrest me! I got quite a few odd stares. After finally admitting defeat, I found a nice pair of red lounge pants. Thank goodness, because the checkout girl was Chinese. I wished her Xiannian Kuaile, and immediately she understood what I was buying and why.
Thanks Bob for posting this very useful info. I learned a few things.
Now I understand better why one of my 'friends' gifted me a pair of red underwear after her last trip home. At the time I thought it was a crazy gift.
"Xiannian Kuaile" to you and L.
I learned a few things as well! I get the significance of Red. But why undergarments in particular?
Back at you.
Might amuse you to hear of my hunt for red panties. Of course I was alone, (L was not there). And I scouted though rows and rows of choices. Had to "feel" the smoothness and comfort. Also took some photos. Had to rule out trashy items I know she would not wear. I swear to God, I can't believe security did not arrest me! I got quite a few odd stares. After finally admitting defeat, I found a nice pair of red lounge pants. Thank goodness, because the checkout girl was Chinese. I wished her Xiannian Kuaile, and immediately she understood what I was buying and why.
I don't know either, however, I found this.
http://gochina.about.com/od/chinesenewyear/qt/RedUnderwear.htm
Seems to say, its for people who don't really like wearing red.
I also read that it needs to be a gift and should not be worn before new years eve. That explains why L did not wear them last night. She said she was waiting until tonight to wear it.
I learned a few things as well! I get the significance of Red. But why undergarments in particular?
SouthSideRed
01-28-17, 21:14
I don't know either, however, I found this.
http://gochina.about.com/od/chinesenewyear/qt/RedUnderwear.htm
Seems to say, its for people who don't really like wearing red.
I also read that it needs to be a gift and should not be worn before new years eve. That explains why L did not wear them last night. She said she was waiting until tonight to wear it.I guess each nationality has there good luck color for the new year. I remember the postal clerk at the post office telling me that in her family it was the color yellow to be worn. And from that day on, all I pictured was her wearing yellow underwear standing at the post office counter.
Chicago Monger
01-30-17, 12:37
Anyone else notice the ThEotheR site is down?
Anyone else notice the ThEotheR site is down?Yes I did Sunday. A few months ago, I would simply say "there doing work o it". But now. Can't help but thinking the worst. It is back up now though.
I agree with Franky. In a customer service world exposed tats are not helpful. The Tats on the face and neck type seldom get a 2nd interview. If they do get hired they have to have them covered. Gauze on the face or side of their face ain't too professional. But that were the rules at my last job!
A tat here and there is ok. But when overly done its a large turn off for me and a sign to keep away. Attention seeking / monkey see monkey do and if they are sweet looking or fugly they themselves know it was a mistake years later,I know woman personally that have admitted that to me
unclassy
I had a business a few years ago and a very attractive smart like but tatted up heavy arms ,neck and what you could see of upper chest and piercings heavily came in looking for a job told her to leave name and number and if needed I would call her ,she asks me if I will throw that number away after she leaves out the door and I thought about if for a few seconds and told her yes I will throw it away she asked why and I told her its a people business an her look would not work for us ,she said that's illegal .....I told her seek legal help then
sheet I know fellas that get many on there bottom legs and then they revolve their whole wardrobe and life around them ....yea you guys that wear shorts all the time in 20 below weather,I have a few nephews like that
Call Me Slappy
01-30-17, 16:01
Yes I did Sunday. A few months ago, I would simply say "there doing work o it". But now. Can't help but thinking the worst. It is back up now though.For those of you who are security conscious (or paranoid) I discovered a few interesting things while they were down.
I use 3 different VPN providers when I surf. 1 was able to reach their server, while the other 2 weren't able to. Once it was confirmed they finished their site maintenance, I retested and got the same results. They might have been victims of some type of DOS attack and blocked ports and / or IP addresses they considered unfriendly.
It could also be the VPN host servers themselves were configured to not allow access to the other site and similiar websites. I did not do extensive testing to confirm this.
The VPN host server that could reach them is Canadian based, whereas the 2 that couldn't are US-based.
It could be coincidence, maybe.
For those of you who are security conscious (or paranoid) I discovered a few interesting things while they were down.
I use 3 different VPN providers when I surf. 1 was able to reach their server, while the other 2 weren't able to. Once it was confirmed they finished their site maintenance, I retested and got the same results. They might have been victims of some type of DOS attack and blocked ports and / or IP addresses they considered unfriendly.
It could also be the VPN host servers themselves were configured to not allow access to the other site and similiar websites. I did not do extensive testing to confirm this.
The VPN host server that could reach them is Canadian based, whereas the 2 that couldn't are US-based.
It could be coincidence, maybe.I'm not sure about the canada thing, but he is right about different internet providers. I am able to log on using my cell as a hotspot, but am unable to connect using my home internet provider.
WretchedBliss
01-30-17, 20:03
I'm not sure about the canada thing, but he is right about different internet providers. I am able to log on using my cell as a hotspot, but am unable to connect using my home internet provider.According to their Twitter account, "the site might be down periodically for site updates. " That said, it's been down since Sunday morning. It must extensive if it's been out for this long.
JesusLovesMe
01-30-17, 20:07
TheotheERsite is still down for me. I first noticed on Sunday. I was able to log on for about an hour Sunday but that's it.
I noticed TER yesterday and did some work. A direct ping to their server produced a 0. 0000 ms return. So no DDOS attacks or anything funny. It was literally not connected to the internet. And this only lasted for about 2 hours.
However, their holding company Treehouse Park, S. A. Also owns a LOT of escort related sites and traffic. All of those were down as well, but came back on line one at a time. At first they would ping normally in the 21 ms to 60 ms range with packet return, but no resolved DNS.
This is typical behaviour for taking your server farm offline and doing physical upgrades to the core systems, either CPU's or RAM systems, and then bringing everything back on line one at a time as they get rebooted and run through diagnostics.
Which leads me to my actual question. I've used RS2 K in the past and I'm coming to town on business in March, possibly May. Is RS2 K still safe after all that's been going on with them legally?
Anyone down for fun? Tonight or this week. Send me PM.
Which leads me to my actual question. I've used RS2 K in the past and I'm coming to town on business in March, possibly May. Is RS2 K still safe after all that's been going on with them legally?I wouldn't go near them.
I wouldn't go near them.Can you qualify that in any way other than a gut-feeling? I'm not trying to be rude, but like with my research into why TER went down, I like to rely on Facts And Figures, numbers and science just don't lie. .
FirstTimer7
01-31-17, 01:43
TheotheERsite is still down for me. I first noticed on Sunday. I was able to log on for about an hour Sunday but that's it.I read a comment about switching to google's dns server instead to resolve the issue.
Can you qualify that in any way other than a gut-feeling? I'm not trying to be rude, but like with my research into why TER went down, I like to rely on Facts And Figures, numbers and science just don't lie. .I used them once before the jail announcement, but it had to be after the arrests, and didn't have any issues. I hadn't heard anything about it yet at that time so I probably wouldn't have used it if I had. That being said, they are only verifying that you are who you say you are. So unless they're going to figure out the location you're planning on heading to, staking it out for when you're planning on coming, and then wait to arrest you in the act I'd have to guess you're pretty safe. Ultimately it all depends on your level of comfort, but since nothing was done with them I'm assuming it's still safe to use them.
-w.
I noticed TER yesterday and did some work. A direct ping to their server produced a 0. 0000 ms return. So no DDOS attacks or anything funny. It was literally not connected to the internet. And this only lasted for about 2 hours.
However, their holding company Treehouse Park, S. A. Also owns a LOT of escort related sites and traffic. All of those were down as well, but came back on line one at a time. At first they would ping normally in the 21 ms to 60 ms range with packet return, but no resolved DNS.
This is typical behaviour for taking your server farm offline and doing physical upgrades to the core systems, either CPU's or RAM systems, and then bringing everything back on line one at a time as they get rebooted and run through diagnostics.
Which leads me to my actual question. I've used RS2 K in the past and I'm coming to town on business in March, possibly May. Is RS2 K still safe after all that's been going on with them legally?RS2 K is just a verification site. Bookings are not made through the site so what harm could come from using it. The issue at hand would be if any of the providers do not trust it anymore. From what I have read in another forum, a provider that verified a customer through RS2 K got busted. Not sure if a LEO got verified or somehow turned somebody who had a membership.
The agency that had the girl who got busted is back up and running and I have been there recently and everything is the same with the exception that there are less girls now.
My opinion, if you have the membership, use it.
Theer other site is still down when I try to pull it up. Is anyone else having this issue.
Whiskey Priest
01-31-17, 10:17
Theer other site is still down when I try to pull it up. Is anyone else having this issue.http://e4osq.x.incapdns.net/main.asp
RS2 K is just a verification site. Bookings are not made through the site so what harm could come from using it. The issue at hand would be if any of the providers do not trust it anymore. From what I have read in another forum, a provider that verified a customer through RS2 K got busted. Not sure if a LEO got verified or somehow turned somebody who had a membership.
The agency that had the girl who got busted is back up and running and I have been there recently and everything is the same with the exception that there are less girls now.
My opinion, if you have the membership, use it.Is what I was getting at. They have a decent amount of talent on their ad boards now. I just don't know if it's safe to trust them or not. The only "pro RS2 K" feedback on TER seems to be coming from the owner's personal friends and confidantes.
Dr Manhattan
01-31-17, 12:58
This is a topic that doesn't seem to get breached often. Are there any spa's or independent contractors who offer colonics with a bit of FBSM involved?
I don't have any intel on this place, but as an example, it's not difficult to imagine pitching a tent while she running her hands on your belly, along with anything else that ensues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbEL7I2qwyI
Nice woman, wants clean fellows to participate. Fthursday or Friday around 5 pm around ohare. Send me pm.
Is what I was getting at. They have a decent amount of talent on their ad boards now. I just don't know if it's safe to trust them or not. The only "pro RS2 K" feedback on TER seems to be coming from the owner's personal friends and confidantes.I would go ahead and use them. The owner was busted for tax evasion over a year ago, so any of your info is already in the IRS hands. If they haven't moved on it by now, chances are they aren't that interested. As far as screening the providers, I haven't heard of any instances of LE posting fake ads with RS2 K.
Is what I was getting at. They have a decent amount of talent on their ad boards now. I just don't know if it's safe to trust them or not. The only "pro RS2 K" feedback on TER seems to be coming from the owner's personal friends and confidantes.Sorry. Did not get your point about the links in your first post. I trust the reviews on the other popular review board with a grain of salt. I trust members here for solid intell. Obviously you do too.
CleanNDirty
01-31-17, 19:56
I would go ahead and use them. The owner was busted for tax evasion over a year ago, so any of your info is already in the IRS hands. If they haven't moved on it by now, chances are they aren't that interested. As far as screening the providers, I haven't heard of any instances of LE posting fake ads with RS2 K.You won't find fake ads at RS-AVS. Advertisers are verified as thoroughly as members. Even agencies posting ads must provide verifiable I'd for any people appearing in the ad. Appropriately, LE is focused on advertising sites that fail to vet their advertisers, and therefor recklessly contribute to the exploitation of minors. I don't like what's happening with Backpage, mostly because I think it's a futile strategy to block a site. But I'm willing to bet that most of the users of this site have occasionally been concerned about an ad or two at Backpage. I don't typically post so this will probably seem like some kind of advertisement. Hope it isn't taken that way. Just trying to give credit where credit is due. Many years ago, I recognized that RS was doing things the way things should be done. Great respect.
So I am now looking at advertising L's legit / nohe shop in Buffalo Grove. Business alternates between slow and busy (LOL). You guys know the place, but if you don't let me know. So here are my questions and why I'm posting the question to the forum.
Along with other, more conventional sources like Google, Yelp, Facebook, Twitter, and other Spa listings, I wanted to consider Craigslist and Backpage. My biggest concern with those two sources are (1) effectiveness and (2) appeal to folks who will be wanting extras. I want to make sure that it is clear from the AD that is its professional place. But I realize nobody believes the statements in those ads anyway. I will not put L's picture online (of course) and I also will not put fake pictures online either. All advice and suggestions are welcome. Thanks in advance. Bob.
So I am now looking at advertising L's legit / nohe shop in Buffalo Grove. Business alternates between slow and busy (LOL). You guys know the place, but if you don't let me know. So here are my questions and why I'm posting the question to the forum.
Along with other, more conventional sources like Google, Yelp, Facebook, Twitter, and other Spa listings, I wanted to consider Craigslist and Backpage. My biggest concern with those two sources are (1) effectiveness and (2) appeal to folks who will be wanting extras. I want to make sure that it is clear from the AD that is its professional place. But I realize nobody believes the statements in those ads anyway. I will not put L's picture online (of course) and I also will not put fake pictures online either. All advice and suggestions are welcome. Thanks in advance. Bob.What about groupon. Nobody really expects extras from places that sell groupons do they?
Yes, Groupon. My American wife uses them. Maybe she will show up one day! But seriously, I am considering Groupon. However, believe it or not, some of our best customers are Forum members who want a legit massage. They can't believe how strong such a tiny woman can be. I was trying to figure out a way to identify ourselves to members in those Ads. Thanks again. Bob.
What about groupon. Nobody really expects extras from places that sell groupons do they?
You might want to ensure that your Ad shows the pics of the facility and location map instead of MT's pics. Also, using more of a pro-massage technique speak instead of suggestive language will deter any HE seekers. LOL.
Here's couple examples. The CL is appropriate in your situation.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5980551355.html
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/asian-347-783-4198/49964242
So I am now looking at advertising L's legit / nohe shop in Buffalo Grove. Business alternates between slow and busy (LOL). You guys know the place, but if you don't let me know. So here are my questions and why I'm posting the question to the forum.
Along with other, more conventional sources like Google, Yelp, Facebook, Twitter, and other Spa listings, I wanted to consider Craigslist and Backpage. My biggest concern with those two sources are (1) effectiveness and (2) appeal to folks who will be wanting extras. I want to make sure that it is clear from the AD that is its professional place. But I realize nobody believes the statements in those ads anyway. I will not put L's picture online (of course) and I also will not put fake pictures online either. All advice and suggestions are welcome. Thanks in advance. Bob.
You might want to ensure that your Ad shows the pics of the facility and location map instead of MT's pics. Also, using more of a pro-massage technique speak instead of suggestive language will deter any HE seekers. LOL.
Here's couple examples. The CL is appropriate in your situation.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5980551355.html
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/asian-347-783-4198/49964242I think no matter what you do you'll get HE seekers. I know I've always left happy when I visit the on in the CL ad, so I'm not sure if there's really any way you can guarantee that people will believe what you post. As stated before Groupon might be the best, but if you've got to worry about your american wife showing up then that would probably cause additional problems. Maybe try advertising that male masseur available also, then have it be their 'day off' if anyone calls or stops by? I think that would help deter HE seekers.
-w.
FrankyCando
02-01-17, 19:08
Yes, Groupon. My American wife uses them. Maybe she will show up one day! But seriously, I am considering Groupon. However, believe it or not, some of our best customers are Forum members who want a legit massage. They can't believe how strong such a tiny woman can be. I was trying to figure out a way to identify ourselves to members in those Ads. Thanks again. Bob.I have used Groupon and another one like it and imo you get people through the door. BUT only if you want 1 time customers ,99% of the people that use the coupons are deal chasers only.
and in business you want return customers ,a one timer is not worth it plus you take a loss while customer and groupon gain
Yes, great exampes of what to put and what not to put. Thanks very much. Bob.
You might want to ensure that your Ad shows the pics of the facility and location map instead of MT's pics. Also, using more of a pro-massage technique speak instead of suggestive language will deter any HE seekers. LOL.
Here's couple examples. The CL is appropriate in your situation.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5980551355.html
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/asian-347-783-4198/49964242
One of the fastest ways to grow the business is trying to gain some social media mileage. Since your shop is legit go ahead and claim your business on Facebook, Yelp, Google+, Twitter, etc. This means you will also create a page for the business on these sites. Next is you want to get some positive customer reviews on these sites. Especially Yelp, Google+ reviews are very helpful for local searches. You might want to give 10% discount to Customers who provide reviews on social media to add up ratings fairly quickly.
Yes, Groupon. My American wife uses them. Maybe she will show up one day! But seriously, I am considering Groupon. However, believe it or not, some of our best customers are Forum members who want a legit massage. They can't believe how strong such a tiny woman can be. I was trying to figure out a way to identify ourselves to members in those Ads. Thanks again. Bob.
Good advice. I am having a beef with Yelp. Their "software" keeps removing reviews of our actual customers. Apparently, people who don't write frequent reviews are considered "suspicious". I told the Yelp guy their reviews favor teenage girls, vs real reviews. Here's our YELP page. You can see 4 5-star reviews not recommended. They are considered fake, but in fact they are genuine reviews. https://www.yelp.com/biz/sunshine-health-massage-buffalo-grove .
I know I need to improve the page itself, but still I'm unwilling to pay these guys a couple hundred bucks a month for ADs when they bury genuine reviews. If anybody wants to write a review it would be appreciated. I'm also going to do the Facebook, and Google stuff. Thanks again. Bob.
One of the fastest ways to grow the business is trying to gain some social media mileage. Since your shop is legit go ahead and claim your business on Facebook, Yelp, Google+, Twitter, etc. This means you will also create a page for the business on these sites. Next is you want to get some positive customer reviews on these sites. Especially Yelp, Google+ reviews are very helpful for local searches. You might want to give 10% discount to Customers who provide reviews on social media to add up ratings fairly quickly.
DMichaels69
02-02-17, 11:19
Bob, one of the reviews that is not recommended is from Mei T. I hope this is not L as that would be a conflict of interest. You may want to explain what that means to her.
Good advice. I am having a beef with Yelp. Their "software" keeps removing reviews of our actual customers. Apparently, people who don't write frequent reviews are considered "suspicious". I told the Yelp guy their reviews favor teenage girls, vs real reviews. Here's our YELP page. You can see 4 5-star reviews not recommended. They are considered fake, but in fact they are genuine reviews. https://www.yelp.com/biz/sunshine-health-massage-buffalo-grove .
I know I need to improve the page itself, but still I'm unwilling to pay these guys a couple hundred bucks a month for ADs when they bury genuine reviews. If anybody wants to write a review it would be appreciated. I'm also going to do the Facebook, and Google stuff. Thanks again. Bob.
I agree. That review was not her.
Bob, one of the reviews that is not recommended is from Mei T. I hope this is not L as that would be a conflict of interest. You may want to explain what that means to her.
Good advice. I am having a beef with Yelp. Their "software" keeps removing reviews of our actual customers. Apparently, people who don't write frequent reviews are considered "suspicious". I told the Yelp guy their reviews favor teenage girls, vs real reviews. Here's our YELP page. You can see 4 5-star reviews not recommended. They are considered fake, but in fact they are genuine reviews. https://www.yelp.com/biz/sunshine-health-massage-buffalo-grove .
I know I need to improve the page itself, but still I'm unwilling to pay these guys a couple hundred bucks a month for ADs when they bury genuine reviews. If anybody wants to write a review it would be appreciated. I'm also going to do the Facebook, and Google stuff. Thanks again. Bob.I tried writing a review for a spa run by a friend for Yelp once. I didn't give them a super-high 'star' review, but I did give them an overall very positive review. Yelp refused to post the review. I guess at the end of the day, as far as Yelp is concerned, it's about how much money they can squeeze out of the businesses that advertise on their site.
I've been busy today.
Signed up Craigslist: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/5986822471.html.
Signed up Backpage: http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-therapeutic-massage-in-buffalo-grove/51830967.
Trying a few other things. Bob.
You might want to ensure that your Ad shows the pics of the facility and location map instead of MT's pics. Also, using more of a pro-massage technique speak instead of suggestive language will deter any HE seekers. LOL.
Here's couple examples. The CL is appropriate in your situation.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/5980551355.html
http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/asian-347-783-4198/49964242
DMichaels69
02-03-17, 10:10
Bob. Whats with the $. 95 pricing. Just round up. I can see all the mongers going to their change buckets! LOL.
I've been busy today.
Signed up Craigslist: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/5986822471.html.
Signed up Backpage: http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-therapeutic-massage-in-buffalo-grove/51830967.
Trying a few other things. Bob.
I've been busy today.
Signed up Craigslist: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/5986822471.html.
Signed up Backpage: http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-therapeutic-massage-in-buffalo-grove/51830967.
Trying a few other things. Bob.The ads look good, definitely no hint that there might be extras offered. That said, the $x. 95 pricing is strange. I doubt you're going to lose any business if you round your prices up to the nearest dollar amount, so why not do it?
Nice. I think the wix website looks pretty neat.
Couple suggestions. You might want to list an email address so if someone has a question and can't reach you by phone they could send a quick email.
And, when you get to it you could add links to Facebook, twitter, yelp, etc.
Also, you might want to list what type of Credit payments you accept. Visa, master, amex, bitcoin, apple pay, etc.
I've been busy today.
Signed up Craigslist: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/5986822471.html.
Signed up Backpage: http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-therapeutic-massage-in-buffalo-grove/51830967.
Trying a few other things. Bob.
Thanks. I'll make those changes. Our business email is sunshinehealthmassage1@gmail.com. But I will add it.
The 95 cents was her idea, but we can probably change it. She has strong opinions, (LOL). I think in a moth or two we will go to $55 or $60 per hour with discounts available to our "email / phone" contacts. Instead of discounts to new customers, I want to give discounts to our regulars. Bob.
Nice. I think the wix website looks pretty neat.
Couple suggestions. You might want to list an email address so if someone has a question and can't reach you by phone they could send a quick email.
And, when you get to it you could add links to Facebook, twitter, yelp, etc.
Also, you might want to list what type of Credit payments you accept. Visa, master, amex, bitcoin, apple pay, etc.
Thanks. I'll make those changes. Our business email is sunshinehealthmassage1@gmail.com. But I will add it.
The 95 cents was her idea, but we can probably change it. She has strong opinions, (LOL). I think in a moth or two we will go to $55 or $60 per hour with discounts available to our "email / phone" contacts. Instead of discounts to new customers, I want to give discounts to our regulars. Bob.You could use something like Constant Contact too. For email marketing once you build up a client list, coupons, etc.
-w.
DMichaels69
02-05-17, 10:41
Bob:
40 half hour, 60 hour, and for 90 min. Maybe 80 or 100. Keep the numbers even. I hate fishing around for a 5 dollar bill. Have a punch card, 10 visits, 11th is free. The punch cards I've seen don't give the whole 11th visit free, just some minutes off. Do things that set you apart from everyone else to get return customers. I think many AMP's don't understand the value of return customers.
Thanks. I'll make those changes. Our business email is sunshinehealthmassage1@gmail.com. But I will add it.
The 95 cents was her idea, but we can probably change it. She has strong opinions, (LOL). I think in a moth or two we will go to $55 or $60 per hour with discounts available to our "email / phone" contacts. Instead of discounts to new customers, I want to give discounts to our regulars. Bob.
Thinking of doing a MMF tonight, after the Super Bowl. If enough guys, can be MMMF or GB. Either downtown or near north side in the city. Any guys down? PM me.
630 area code. Super passive aggressive, pure negativity. I wouldn't bother with her. Starts threatening you in any way she think she can. Total C*nt.
StanleyStankas
02-05-17, 15:02
630 area code. Super passive aggressive, pure negativity. I wouldn't bother with her. Starts threatening you in any way she think she can. Total C*nt.Rat 'them out every time! I would want them 2 know that we are here observing as well! The littlest thing we do that doesn't fit into their "agenda" they are blacklisting us, texting their friends not 2 see us. I mean really if we don't stick 2 gether on things like this then we have nothing! Thank you! Mc!
Head First
02-05-17, 16:53
Instead of discounts to new customers, I want to give discounts to our regulars. Bob.If you're in it for the long term and not the short term it's ideas like this that'll prove to your return clients (marathoners) that they're more valuable to you than one time new (sprinters) customers. Discounts and punch cards are proven to help achieve this.
And on the subject of punch cards. I've only ever seen 10's. How about a 20. Don't throw it away at 10 but let's get you to 20 where you'll get an even better reward. Maybe a free '4-hand'. And then to 30 for a whatever. 40 - who knows. 50? Instead of resetting to 0, keep going. Make us feel a little more special for being so loyal.
There's this pizza joint I go to that gives a free slice after 10. But if I save up enough cards I can get a whole pie. Now we're talking.
It's stuff like this that could set you apart from the others.
We keep change on hand so clients don't have to worry. And we are happy to take credit cards. At some point soon we may revisit the pricing, as we are now officially looking to add another professional massage therapist. Funny you should mention the punch cards. We will soon have a "reward card" with ten boxes. We are going to offer a one hour massage after ten paid hours. Our existing customers will get a pre-signed box since they have already visited.
We agree repeat customers are essential. So any pricing strategy will favor repeat customers. Lucky for us, L (Mei) is terrific. Many of our customers have pain management issues, and her massage really is therapeutic. Actually, its a damn hard pressure massage, as many of you already know.
So even if we raise the price the repeat customer would get a lower price. Perhaps we will use email or phone information to get the discounted price. All that said, because of the language barrier we can't get too complicated.
Bob:
40 half hour, 60 hour, and for 90 min. Maybe 80 or 100. Keep the numbers even. I hate fishing around for a 5 dollar bill. Have a punch card, 10 visits, 11th is free. The punch cards I've seen don't give the whole 11th visit free, just some minutes off. Do things that set you apart from everyone else to get return customers. I think many AMP's don't understand the value of return customers.
I couldn't help but smile. Until we get that extra worker, a 4-hand massage would have to include two of mine. LOL. I'm not sure that's a reward. Although L has suggested I massage some of our female clients.
If you're in it for the long term and not the short term it's ideas like this that'll prove to your return clients (marathoners) that they're more valuable to you than one time new (sprinters) customers. Discounts and punch cards are proven to help achieve this.
And on the subject of punch cards. I've only ever seen 10's. How about a 20. Don't throw it away at 10 but let's get you to 20 where you'll get an even better reward. Maybe a free '4-hand'. And then to 30 for a whatever. 40 - who knows. 50? Instead of resetting to 0, keep going. Make us feel a little more special for being so loyal.
There's this pizza joint I go to that gives a free slice after 10. But if I save up enough cards I can get a whole pie. Now we're talking.
It's stuff like this that could set you apart from the others.
Head First
02-06-17, 01:16
I couldn't help but smile. Until we get that extra worker, a 4-hand massage would have to include two of mine. LOL. I'm not sure that's a reward. Although L has suggested I massage some of our female clients.I go to the Cortiva School of Massage regularly where I get a legit massage from students in training. Usually its a female but once in a while it's a guy. In the beginning I was weirded out but that soon became a non issue as it's always done in a very professional manner. If I were you I'd take a shot at it if a female comes in. Why not?
Head First
02-06-17, 01:45
Lucky for us, L (Mei) is terrific. Many of our customers have pain management issues, and her massage really is therapeutic. Actually, its a damn hard pressure massage, as many of you already know.
A few months ago while getting out of my car something snapped in my back and I could hardly move. Getting in and out of the car was very painful and the same with getting in and out of bed. Sleeping too. Even walking was a chore. It was terrible. It slowed me down but it didn't stop me being a hobbiest.
So I made an appt at one of my regulars and as I'm laying down on her table she can tell there was something wrong. I told her yeah, my back hurts pretty bad. I've gotten many massages from her but mostly they were just foreplay for the main event. But this time she was acting different. Sure enough, within 3 finger prods she had pinpointed my pain. She worked that area for about 5 minutes. She then says "Ok, fixed. Get up. " I'm like "what? Yeah right. ".
But I got up and sure enough, pain was gone. I twisted, and turned, and even bent over and almost touched the floor. Couldn't believe it. Just like that the pain was gone. And I'd had it for a week.
Amazing!! I asked how she did that. She says she was a doctor in China. Wow. Never knew that.
So we did our thing and I left her an extra tip for above and beyond service.
I was never a believer in therapeutic massage before but she sure changed my mind about that.
I call her Doctor now. It's kinda fun fucking a Doctor. Haha.
Actually, I was going to talk to the various schools about hiring graduates. Cortiva would be high on my list. Most of those graduates get snapped up by the chains, like Massage Envy, but I was going to try anyway. Also I put a simple sign in the window. The idea would be to find someone local who maybe had a license, kids, and wanted to make some part time money while the kids were in school. Mei really needs a day off from time to time.
Now the problem with the female client, I really think L is testing me. She has told me about female clients that asked her to do "special massages". She refused, of course. I don't think I have the will power to say no, if I was asked. Better I don't let myself get into that circumstance.
I go to the Cortiva School of Massage regularly where I get a legit massage from a student in training. Usually its a female but once in a while it's a guy. In the beginning I was weirded out but that soon became a non issue as it's always done in a very professional manner. If I were you I'd take a shot at it if a female comes in. Why not?
You are so correct! It's pretty amazing learning about the lives these women left behind. I've met Doctors, lawyers, accountants, teachers. I've told these women, (with total sincerity) that it is people like them that make America great (hate to sound political). Smart, hard working, courageous. Building a new life for themselves and their children. Just like our ancestors did one hundred or more years ago. Cubans escaping in boats fifty years ago. American is a melting pot of people like this. Sure they compete for economic resources, but for the most part they usually end up getting the short end of the stick. (Pun not intended.).
As you point out, when you get to know the person behind the MT "persona", know their real name and their real story, you form a personal connection that is much more rewarding than any conventional massage parlor experience. Bob.
A few months ago while getting out of my car something snapped in my back and I could hardly move. Getting in and out of the car was very painful and the same with getting in and out of bed. Sleeping too. Even walking was a chore. It was terrible. It slowed me down but it didn't stop me being a hobbiest.
So I made an appt at one of my regulars and as I'm laying down on her table she can tell there was something wrong. I told her yeah, my back hurts pretty bad. I've gotten many massages from her but mostly they were just foreplay for the main event. But this time she was acting different. Sure enough, within 3 finger prods she had pinpointed my pain. She worked that area for about 5 minutes. She then says "Ok, fixed. Get up. " I'm like "what? Yeah right. ".
But I got up and sure enough, pain was gone. I twisted, and turned, and even bent over and almost touched the floor. Couldn't believe it. But just like that the pain was gone. And I'd had it for a week.
Amazing!! I asked how she did that. She says she was a doctor in China. Wow. Never knew that.
So we did our thing and I left her an extra tip for above and beyond service.
I was never a believer in therapeutic massage before but she sure changed my mind about that.
I call her Doctor now. It's kinda fun fucking a Doctor. Haha.
Actually, I was going to talk to the various schools about hiring graduates. Cortiva would be high on my list. Most of those graduates get snapped up by the chains, like Massage Envy, but I was going to try anyway. Also I put a simple sign in the window. The idea would be to find someone local who maybe had a license, kids, and wanted to make some part time money while the kids were in school. Mei really needs a day off from time to time.
Now the problem with the female client, I really think L is testing me. She has told me about female clients that asked her to do "special massages". She refused, of course. I don't think I have the will power to say no, if I was asked. Better I don't let myself get into that circumstance.Bob, one of the local schools just had there final exams last week. I don't know if it was Cortiva but I'll find out for you. There is a fresh batch of grads on the street!
Member #5589
02-06-17, 13:44
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Thats very interesting. Several years ago I was working at STL nearby a massage school. They used to have terrific deals for trying out massages with students at something like 30 bucks an hour. But because they only did that for limited hours a month usually they had a long waiting list so not very practical. Just curious to know more about Cortiva. What do they charge and how easy is it to get a massage there.
I go to the Cortiva School of Massage regularly where I get a legit massage from students in training. Usually its a female but once in a while it's a guy. In the beginning I was weirded out but that soon became a non issue as it's always done in a very professional manner. If I were you I'd take a shot at it if a female comes in. Why not?
DMichaels69
02-06-17, 17:27
http://www.cortiva.com/locations/chicago-massage-schools/massage-therapy-centers.aspx
Price looks good. Call for information.
Thats very interesting. Several years ago I was working at STL nearby a massage school. They used to have terrific deals for trying out massages with students at something like 30 bucks an hour. But because they only did that for limited hours a month usually they had a long waiting list so not very practical. Just curious to know more about Cortiva. What do they charge and how easy is it to get a massage there.
CouchCouscous
02-06-17, 18:04
My problem. On budget and my safe go-to has been shut down, but want that pussy. My rant, reasoning, whatever. Never known a gf or my ex to be an easy thing. They would all giggle at me and go off to use their vibrators. My solution during my current lockdown. Well, not too long ago these articles were $5000 or $10000 a piece. Not now, found the prices have dropped below $1000 for completely solid all medical grade silicone (TPE) sex dolls with fully posable metal skeletons. Beats the ass off following my last ex's advice to go away and just use my hand. LOL. On Amazon, too! It may be taboo, but so was those damn cock blocking vibrators once. Check these links out. Lmaoroltf! http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=jsbestracingllc&isRefine=true&_sop=10. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019RKXLVS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YepMybRCZ1XR2.
My problem. On budget and my safe go-to has been shut down, but want that pussy. My rant, reasoning, whatever. Never known a gf or my ex to be an easy thing. They would all giggle at me and go off to use their vibrators. My solution during my current lockdown. Well, not too long ago these articles were $5000 or $10000 a piece. Not now, found the prices have dropped below $1000 for completely solid all medical grade silicone (TPE) sex dolls with fully posable metal skeletons. Beats the ass off following my last ex's advice to go away and just use my hand. LOL. On Amazon, too! It may be taboo, but so was those damn cock blocking vibrators once. Check these links out. Lmaoroltf! http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=jsbestracingllc&isRefine=true&_sop=10. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019RKXLVS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YepMybRCZ1XR2.Could be Melania FLOTUS!
My problem. On budget and my safe go-to has been shut down, but want that pussy. My rant, reasoning, whatever. Never known a gf or my ex to be an easy thing. They would all giggle at me and go off to use their vibrators. My solution during my current lockdown. Well, not too long ago these articles were $5000 or $10000 a piece. Not now, found the prices have dropped below $1000 for completely solid all medical grade silicone (TPE) sex dolls with fully posable metal skeletons. Beats the ass off following my last ex's advice to go away and just use my hand. LOL. On Amazon, too! It may be taboo, but so was those damn cock blocking vibrators once. Check these links out. Lmaoroltf! http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=jsbestracingllc&isRefine=true&_sop=10. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019RKXLVS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YepMybRCZ1XR2.A couple of these look like the target market would be pedos. I guess it's better that they do this rather than actual children getting hurt.
DMichaels69
02-06-17, 19:15
Just when I thought I heard everything on here.
My problem. On budget and my safe go-to has been shut down, but want that pussy. My rant, reasoning, whatever. Never known a gf or my ex to be an easy thing. They would all giggle at me and go off to use their vibrators. My solution during my current lockdown. Well, not too long ago these articles were $5000 or $10000 a piece. Not now, found the prices have dropped below $1000 for completely solid all medical grade silicone (TPE) sex dolls with fully posable metal skeletons. Beats the ass off following my last ex's advice to go away and just use my hand. LOL. On Amazon, too! It may be taboo, but so was those damn cock blocking vibrators once. Check these links out. Lmaoroltf! http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=jsbestracingllc&isRefine=true&_sop=10. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019RKXLVS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YepMybRCZ1XR2.
Any guys interested in a gang bang with a pornstar? I'm thinking a mid-level girl, not s BIG NAME STAR. Just a cute young hottie. I've fct a few solo.
Send me PM.
My problem. On budget and my safe go-to has been shut down, but want that pussy. My rant, reasoning, whatever. Never known a gf or my ex to be an easy thing. They would all giggle at me and go off to use their vibrators. My solution during my current lockdown. Well, not too long ago these articles were $5000 or $10000 a piece. Not now, found the prices have dropped below $1000 for completely solid all medical grade silicone (TPE) sex dolls with fully posable metal skeletons. Beats the ass off following my last ex's advice to go away and just use my hand. LOL. On Amazon, too! It may be taboo, but so was those damn cock blocking vibrators once. Check these links out. Lmaoroltf! http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=jsbestracingllc&isRefine=true&_sop=10. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019RKXLVS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YepMybRCZ1XR2.I'll wait until the sex bots are more life like. Or when the technology perfects cloning and A. I. (Artificial Intelligence) What you posted is going in the right direction.
Head First
02-06-17, 23:48
Thats very interesting. Several years ago I was working at STL nearby a massage school. They used to have terrific deals for trying out massages with students at something like 30 bucks an hour. But because they only did that for limited hours a month usually they had a long waiting list so not very practical. Just curious to know more about Cortiva. What do they charge and how easy is it to get a massage there.3 locations. Loop. Joliet. Crystal Lake. By appt. only. Easy to make by calling 312 753 7990. Fridays only with times starting around 9 am to about 7:30 pm. Sometimes a few slots on Sat. too. $40/ hr.
In a room with 5 other tables sectioned off with curtains. 100% legit and professional. Covered with a sheet at all times. In fact I never even get naked, always wear bike shorts. No tipping allowed. After the massage you're given a little cup of water and asked to fill out an anonymous comments sheet which includes rating the massage from 1-10. No biggie.
The sheets are always fresh and clean and the lights are dimmed with music playing. Its very relaxing, in fact sometimes I fall asleep.
Both men and women get the massages and both males and females give them. Ages of customers range from 18-80.
JohnRambo2016
02-07-17, 00:50
Could be Melania FLOTUS!This one looks more like Melania. Now if we could get an Ivanka or Tiffany, I might open the wallet.
Heard that a porn girl named LENA MORE from the Czech Rep is visiting our town. Sessions are $. 5 1 hr and $$. 5 1 hr. Seems TGTBT, especially for a pornstar, and especially since I can't find much on her. Not to be confused with Lena MOORE from australia.
I was literally in the middle of having sex with her brunette friend while this blonde was on her way to her first porn shoot. Both were gymnasts. BOTH WERE AMAZING. I met up with the blonde a week later.
Unfortunately, the brunette ended up having a nervous breakdown or something, so they stopped coming into town. So sad.
http://www.xvideos.com/video18263455/18_yr_old_blonde_teen_fuck_and_suck
Wow she's gorgeous! Is the blonde still around? Wouldn't mind dreaming about her.
I was literally in the middle of having sex with her brunette friend while this blonde was on her way to her first porn shoot. Both were gymnasts. BOTH WERE AMAZING. I met up with the blonde a week later.
Unfortunately, the brunette ended up having a nervous breakdown or something, so they stopped coming into town. So sad.
http://www.xvideos.com/video18263455/18_yr_old_blonde_teen_fuck_and_suck
Degenerate1776
02-08-17, 12:40
Since we're showing pornstars we've seen, here's mine. She doesn't do porn anymore, and goes by Haley here in Chicago. Also, the experience in seeing her is not so pornstar-ish. In fact, I had a pretty lousy time with her.
Anyways.
http://www.xvideos.com/video3747284/big_tit_milf_valentina_krave_loves_big_black_cocks
StanCopier
02-08-17, 14:42
Cool girl, CFS with BBBJ, not overly expensive, wish she was still available.
http://www.xvideos.com/video3195610/busty_ebony_gets_fucked_by_two_big_white
Wow she's gorgeous! Is the blonde still around? Wouldn't mind dreaming about her.I had talked to them about coming into town every once in a while. But her friend COMPLETELY lost her ish. So they stopped coming.
I can reach out to her and see if she'll come back. If its worth it for her.
Any hobbies out there open to MMF, or last-minute fun? I have one friend I can count on pretty regularly. I had an extra girl show up to my place last night, so called up my bud. We had an unexpected and unplanned MMFF. But I need another guy or two I can count on, since hobby bud travels a lot. Not always available.
Prefer someone downtown or near-North side. Though I do like to see girls from all areas. Must be a laid back kinda guy. No BS.
Send me a PM and we can discuss.
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