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05-27-26 15:56 #111Ads vs Hotness
Originally Posted by MrLemon
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I have a tip about that. You have to pick one or the other. S-Tier kgirls don't usually have S-Tier ads, and they don't often look like their ads. Most of them cost 400 to 600 hr. Half only work one city. Laurent in LA looked better than her own original ad as the biggest outlier. Do a search and see how few reviews she got, it is gatekeeping. Her price actually went up (from 400 to 500 hr) and enough people were still seeing her nonstop. Rich guys. She had almost no reviews for a month. Waiting for reviews or using ads doesn't work on S or high A.
Lani is not her in her ad, but she is also S-Tier to many people. I'm saying to you you can't rely on ad photos either way. Lani's last day is 6/4 in OC. She is GFE only. She was gatekept as hard as Laurent.
Among friends, they rated Lani S or A. She is all cute and zero sexy, so it's up to preference. A guy who wants sexy or mature might rate her even lower. Obviously the guys who thought she was S repeated her a lot. We warned MILF Hunters not to see her, so win-win. Each person has a different criteria for S. You can't tell by reviews, but people book certain hot girls more and more over time rather than less. Exactly the same as FA Isabella, who was also S-Tier. She was gatekept as hard as Lani. She only works FA/BRC, so any other Isabella has never been her. I think I warned about this 8 times so believe what you want.
You couldn't tell how hot Isabella was from her ad, or Laurent or Lani. That's my tip. It was a good example of who was using intel and who was using ads. Some bookers consistently tip off their best customers too. In public, people had varying opinions of how hot FA Isabella was, and it was bell-curved and made sense. But she was fully booked every day. There is a always a gap like this on S-Tier girls. Actions speak louder than words.
Booker Matchmaking
The truth is, there are high expectation and low expectation HYA Hunters. Bookers had no trouble telling the latter about Laurent and Lani. They tell their best customers first, guys who tend to be happy and want to approximately know the next hot girl. They aren't going to tell guys who only occasionally see girls and complain about most girls. I want to point out they are actually giving each guy what they asked for. This is what I call Divine Favor. Many guys just want variety so they can use booker intel to just dodge the most unpopular girls. Bookers reasonably know that, they accurately warned me about girls.
Also no go are guys who have a red flag for problems. It's why some people are reluctant to review their ATFs, imagining that high expectation guys will rush in and get disappointed again. So, I try to review girls by listing out true Dealbreakers I noticed. Lani and Laurent are cute appeal, not sexy or mature appeal for example. For Full HYA Hunters only, others are at risk. In this way, the people who do show up are probably going to be happy.
Matchmaking matters, because I'm pretty sure each guy wold pick a different girl and rank them in a different order. Other HYA Hunters have a different ranking order than me, even though our ATFs overlap. In order to find these girls, I first ignored every reviewer by default and then certified the ones that had my taste. The Furiosa test. Even among real reviewers, that's about 10% to 20% of reviewers due to taste. It is summed up by the Sandra Oh problem:
The Sandra Oh Problem
Originally Posted by Enice
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The problem is when someone blends all their impressions into one score, that the score confuses anyone with different taste. It only makes to someone with similar taste to him. Sandra Oh bros will hifive each other when they discover a Sandra Oh lookalike. The problem is avoidable by at least splitting by Face, Tits, Body. I'll go further and explain a girl is S-Tier Looks but Team Seven appeal to me, with an estimate that she is A-Tier otherwise. Or a C and lower to a true MILF Hunter. TER is full of them. They complained girls like Crystal "looked too young". I am not joking. Originally Posted by Download X
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We can't make most girls use real photos. Girls won't show up if they don't feel safe, and there are other factors that ultimately don't matter. The bigger problem is the exaggeration factor with ads being about 0-3 Tiers better than the girl (there are exceptions both sides of that).
This is why I rely on lookalikes, and try to find one within 1 tier of the girl. It's very hard. But often, we can find an example way closer than the ad and within the same realm of hotness. Anna from Meov was another example for Rai aka Baby Abby (now in LA). I had to find the least flattering photo of Anna, an A-Tier photo. Anna is typically DDG S-Tier. But these idols tend to be dolled up with make up and full hair, and even the model herself doesn't look like that straight out of bed.
Vibe really matters to some of us. Rai's body is high tier to me since I like Spinners, but she is body over face. So I put her in upper B-Tier Looks. But I looked forward to seeing her a lot because her Vibe was top tier. It's almost her strongest point. She had a combo of Looks and Service with standout Vibe, just like Jenny K.
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https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7623533 Sandra Oh Taste
TER for Service, not Looks
The ugliest kgirl I ever met had high Looks ratings on TER. She had the same Looks ratings as half the HYA. A 3-4 Tier gap was a 0-1 Score gap on TER. She outranked way hotter girls, and she didn't even have good Service. I suppose people liked her Tits and Vibe. Some guys are 100% Tits and 0% Face, so even if they were perfectly honest it wouldn't help us one bit. It is why Looks must be broken down into Face, Tits, Body. Even the 100% Tits guys when asked immediately said she was ugly without a doubt. Without exception. You see the problem.
If you are a HYA Hunter, TER does not have good intel. There is too much wrong info on age, face, body. Ugly women are beautiful on TER. So I don't read TER before seeing a girl anymore, and I haven't used it to decide on a girl in 2 years. Not even once. My success rate skyrocketed after that, because I only relied on intel. OC has a ton of HYA reviewers, so it was very obvious on USAG who the hot girls were. People even complained a girl was hot but had low service, so I rushed in to see her! Thank you! I can fix low service, I cannot fix ugly. On repeats, some of the girls even had high service. They did exactly what I showed them. I would rank their Service higher than most MILFs. Eyes closed they are still better.
Whereas TER can often get Service right. You can say the reviewer pool skews Service, so it's their area of expertise rather than age, face, or body. Once in a while I'll read through TER for ATFs and be reminded of some detail, for fun anecdotes. Only after seeing a girl is it clear who is describing a girl - it's not clear before. There are some shills, but more than shills are people who are reviewing themselves rather than the girl. The taste is very skewed - it's a variant of the Sandra Oh Problem.
That all goes away the moment you use any HYA thread to figure out Looks. Like magic. But you have to be warned, HYA are not good enough for full Service Hunters. For Balanced Hunters, each person has a different cutoff. It falls off a cliff after that cutoff.
Face Standards
Certain girls have divided opinion on Face or Body or Service. More than the usual divide. It is summed up here:
I could plot a lot of data points and I was even in the middle of the pack. Opinions correlated strongly with this question: "Do you mainly like the Korean beauty standard or do you also like dark skinned SEA girls too" Originally Posted by Download X
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Certain girls' faces improved at certain distances and angles. Baby Sol for example is best viewed 20 degrees or more. MH Ayaka too, she was DDG viewed at 20 degrees or more. Certain girls, they also have beautiful smiles so in a sense it is ymmv whether or not you'll see that part of her. Lauryn for example, had the very best smile. I'm sure some others saw it too, but I also imagine others have no idea what I'm talking about.
The Lizza Guide is a coded message. I already know many people wouldn't believe it, it's not for them. And many other people were doing this long before I wrote it, it's also not for them. It's for everyone else. It won't help solve every case. It is only meant to increase your success rate. The key is soon girls understand I'm trying to find out what they like anyways.
Excerpted:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7602094 The Lizza Guide (middle of post)
Dark Silence Paradox
I told Boner the reason I focus on matchmaking is it works, but also it solves the Dark Silence problem. Dark Silence is when so many people are going straight for the best girls on intel we give, but don't try out other girls and report back. They are too busy winning. It was hard on their bodies trying HYA after HYA, so the Rabbits Take a Nap. It's why sometimes Turtles pull ahead in the race for HYA and are able to identify a few missed.
Good intel is very powerful. Imagine if you had someone telling you which cards were coming next in blackjack. It is a huge cheat to win. People get spoiled. When the intel is too good, you get Dark Silence.
The solution for all that is matchmaking intel. I will point out girls who will definitely make a specific guy very happy. He could hardly complain about the smaller details when he gets his Dealmakers and dodges major Dealbreakers. Tall girls, short girls, fantastic tits, cute young face, and so on. But then the list runs short. With the rest of the matchmaking intel, he will still know girls that are definitely not for him too. And then he will explore the Dark Minefield with us. It is the key to breaking Dark Silence.
Vibe and DTF
I'll attach a Vibe vs DTF chart, it's based on a meme. Vibe and DTF are secondary criteria, and not everyone even cares about them much. Whereas there are certainly some guys who are Vibe Hunters and DTF Hunters. For me, this combo is a good predictor of the gap between my opinion and someone else's on Service. It helps people identify if they have my taste in Service or not. Many guys care about Vibe way more than me, so I'm not even at the extreme. Even among full Service Hunters, there is a divide between those who care about Vibe and those who don't. Vibe is a close proxy for Attitude which is similar but different among younger girls.
Among HYA, there is often a huge gap between Vibe and Attitude. For those of us chasing Vibe, it's a key distinction. Girls who make you very happy talking, their smile, or just by their presence or voice, they have good Vibe. Lizza, Baby Sweet, and Ng are examples who are Vibe over Attitude. Katie K mastered it. Attitude is a more professional approach, so MILFs tend to master Attitude. ETO Hinata mastered this. A few HYA master Vibe.
I divide Looks and Service broadly as Looks is what you see and Service is what you experience even with your eyes closed. That covers 90% of it, but 10% can't be untangled. So something like Voice and Pussy would count as Service. I get that others wouldn't define it this way, but I do. I weigh Pussy almost at the same level as Skills, so it explains why MILFs struggle to break through A or B Service. Just a few of them have high tier Pussy. FA Tomi does. The other point is some MILFs have skills but are performative or over the top. People call it PSE and it's not for me. They are duds on the Vibe vs DTF scale to me. I'd even rather see a MILF with zero skills who was DTF, a step above dud. If she has a good pussy, then I'd even say she's okay.
Intel vs Ads
Ads are not intel. I only use an ad to know the price. Pricing typos are very rare, maybe 2%. So they are just typos.
A good example is Baby Yuyu J in LA. Several people saw her both tours and reported she is not the JAV girl in her ad. So I pointed out she is not the JAV girl three times in her two tours, but people still won't believe me. This included people who knew me for years, so I could tell it came out of a passionate hope it was true. I used to be like that too, I get it. The people who saw her and were open minded were happy. It was people who required the JAV girl who weren't. So it was extra important to point this out, as a meta form of matchmaking (guys who must have JAV should not go):
The bookers truly do not know whether or not it's the JAV girl, since after all someone did tell them it was her in the first place. Originally Posted by Download X
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Only someone who saw a girl can give intel. The next best is if someime I know who is reliable and saw that girl, then I can point out their review or pass on their opinion. I do it often with Boner and others. The third best is to combine intel from multiple people who I verified are good enough (ex. honest but diverse opinion). People who passed the Furiosa test many times in my book.
75% of the time it's a JAV ad, it's the girl. But when it is a semi-famous or top tier JAV, that rate drops a lot. This is the best tip I can give on guessing that. The girl has final say on ad photos. Usually, she is the one who supplies them.
Third Law of Kgirls - Intel. Only someone who has seen a girl can provide true intel. Sometimes a person second-hand can gather multiple reviews and see a clear pattern, or provide true intel through reliable second-hand sources.
The Limits of Estimation
This is the same idea with height and cup sizes. I'm +/- 1 inch 80% of the time on height, so I'm occasionally 2 inches off. It's still better than ads. For example, I say Prada is 5'7" because she is 5'7". Not 5'5" like the ad. Ads are +/- 2 inch 80% of the time. Tits are different, there is a bias exaggerating them up a cup size. Whereas if I saw a girl's tits and licked them and called them B cup, it's not gonna be D cup. But you're going to see a B cup girl listed as B through D cup on the ad, because the ad is +/- 1 cup size and then plus 1. Hope that makes sense. I don't claim to be very accurate, just a step more accurate than the ad on average. Most reviewers are too. You can believe who you want.
If someone said Prada was 5'5" or 5'9", it's okay. We are all going to be wrong sometimes, but that's different than someone saying she is a 5'1" spinner. They probably got a different girl then, and in fact it was the biggest tell when someone got B+S with a different girl. If we want people to review, we have to accept that honest reviewers are going to be wrong sometimes. But you can usually see 80% Spec agreement even between two very different guys. There are even specific girls where there is a clear divided opinion on something specific like her Face. It's not random, it is certain girls and you can even predict it:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7623224 Lily K Face
The Japan Standard
What about the Japan beauty standard? There's actually several. Attached is an example:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...7&d=1779681584 Marupi
Marupi is cute, young, fresh idol appeal. There are many alternative styles like gyaru or landmine girl. Here is a high tier example of gyaru:
https://www.instagram.com/reels/DSc2dfiEzKC/ High Tier Gyaru
I'll also post three more 'mainstream' appeal jgirls to give examples of the Japan 'high standard' (i.e. expensive). The third one Kiho you can actually meet at Jungle Tokyo, but it is kind of expensive. I went to their sister club unintentionally (long story) and had a good look at all the other girls there. A few of the girls were approaching that hot, so you could say S through B. But I would actually recommend Red Dragon instead if you don't mind a bit expensive imo. Just make sure to pick a girl you actually know (they are all JAV at Red Dragon). I took one of their girls out, but it isn't easy. I will include that in an OTC guide in the future. But first, this was the PSA I wrote out after meeting a jgirl hostess OTC (I did not know she was a hostess):
The Professionals
Hostesses or room girls in particular, you'll never have enough money for them. Their training is to extract money from men, and they struggle to break that habit even in another context.
She had several weird red flags. It was the oddest thing, I told her I'd give her extra to meet me for dinner but she tried to turn it down. That is a red flag for The Doom. It is summed up with this follow-up PSA
If a girl seems overly eager or seems to be doing things for free, you are in danger. Just wait for it. Some girls are so good you can't even think of a way to say no after what they did for you first. Originally Posted by Download X
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So somehow I ended up at her hostess club. A luxury high end one. It crossed my mind many times to say goodnight to her instead, and I should have. I had already seen her many times to satisfaction, so taking her out to dinner was just for a nice goodbye memory anyways.
Already Reviewed Girls
Some girls have reviews from months or years back. They already have regulars or really alert people waiting to pounce on them the moment they came back. So when they do I'm going to repeat them too. After the initial rush, probably some people will review. But people who already reviewed her often won't because they already did. Sometimes it is all up to chance. It is for that reason people are Rabbits since you can't always get a review in time for the best girls.
Attached are three examples of mainstream Japan standard looks. The closest balance you'll get to that with some action is Hosekinobako. The upper end girls there are close.
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05-27-26 00:38 #110
People eventually have a full inbox/outbox with the limit of 200. For those who want to save off their PMs before deleting it, here is about downloading and clearing your inbox:
Inbox Full PSA
To see your mailbox count click on Notifications -> Inbox. Scroll to the bottom. You might see "Inbox contains 96 messages. You have 187 messages stored, of a total 200 allowed. (Empty Folder)". Three options: Originally Posted by Download X
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A) You just want to clear inbox+outbox = Hit 'Empty Folder'. Done.
B) You want to download the inbox and outbox. Near the top right of your inbox click on the checkbox to select all. If I have 96 messages, there are TWO pages and I need to click on page 2 and then click on the upper right checkbox again to select the rest. Scroll down to the bottom and there is a dropdown that should now say 'Selected messages (96)' meaning you have every inbox message selected. You can even continue to your outbox and select them too (both in/out into one file). When read, click on the drop box. Choose 'download as CSV' and click Proceed to execute the command. After, you can delete your current selection by selecting 'Delete' and then hitting Proceed to execute the command. If you abort at any step, those messages are still selected in the system.
C) You want to download and merge into your cumulative spreadsheet of messages. Start with step B and download and clear messages. Next, I recommend Libre Office which is an open source version of Excel. It's free I double click on the file which will open it in 'Calc' (Excel clone). Since I am importing from CSV format, a popup will show conversion options. I use the default. Okay, so I now have all 187 messages open. Next step is to merge. So you open that master file too. In this example I have 'Selected Messages (187)'.
Go to cell 2A which is the first cell of data (the first row are the labels like date, folder, etc..). You need 2A selected first. Then hold down SHIFT and scroll to the bottom. For example, by dragging the upper right bar to the bottom all the way 100%. You will scroll past the bottom by just 1 cell, so the spreadsheet looks empty. You put your mouse curser back to the upper right and find a hidden up arrow that appears when hovered. Click it (or press up on keyboard). Now the last row of data appears. The next step is important, you want to click the # row box of the last row of data, in this case #188 (there are 187 messages + 1 line of label). Click on the number 188 directly. You have now selected all data, excluding the 1st line of label. CTRL+C to copy the data. Dotted lines should appear to confirm.
Go to the spreadsheet you want to merge into. Scroll to the very bottom by putting your mouse to the top right and drag the bar 100% to the bottom. You are now past the last row by just 1 line. You can click the upper left most cell and CTRL+V to paste. You have now merged the two files. I would suggest you sort by reverse chronological order so that the newest messages are at the top. Scroll to the top of the file where you can see A1. Click the empty space on the upper left of the spreadsheet, to the left of A and above 1. This selects everything. Now look at the top of Calc and see icons, and in the middle of the top row is a button with Z over A and a down arrow. That is 'Sort Descending'. Click it. Now save your file. Delete the temp file if you like. Don't forget to go back to your inbox and delete all selected messages if you haven't.
This method of sorting is helpful because everything is in order, and you can see the from and to fields showing if this is a sent or received message.
Some people want to save it securely, so one casual option is an encrypted drive. It mounts just like any USB drive. See the 6th paragraph of this guide:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7133298 Data security (start 6th paragraph)
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...pt#post7110181 Veracrypt, a free alternative
Some people mentioned they lost old files or photos. The great thing about an encrypted volume is the volume is just a file. You can copy it as a backup anywhere. The main trick is figuring out the right volume size ahead of time. Of course, you can make a bigger one as needed and migrate.
Some other tips from the past
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05-24-26 00:55 #109Great to hear. Hotter young girls tend to work these shops to save their pussy for later in life, and at Shibuya Galaxy you get to sit down and enjoy multiple HYA as a harem. Box 3 at is my favorite spot. 5 is in theory the best view of all the girls, but 3 is the pervert's choice. Fully lit, you will see everything even clearer than if you had booked a for fs. No inhibition HYA, it made me blush. SG is fully English friendly. I hope you keep winning. Originally Posted by LemonPepper
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It's true if you like the girls at SG or oppai pubs, you can get worked up. Many people say they get blueballs seeing hot girls they can't bang, so for those people one option is to do this at the end of your trip after you've done all the DH, Soapland, OTC. I considered writing a jgirl OTC guide, but really the most important is the warning about jgirl hostesses. Other than them, you can figure it out. Only maybe 5% of jgirls are worth the hassle of OTC. For those who visit Japan for work or pleasure:
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https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7622555 Tokyo DH: TAE, Gingira, THC
Guides for a HYA strip club and a top tier Soapland jgirl:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7614285 Shibuya Galaxy (Shibuya, Japan)
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7596300 Hinata @ Etoile (Yoshiwara, Japan)
OTC
The jist of my OTC warnings are summed up in these posts:
City of Industry Strip Clubs Originally Posted by Download X
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I go once or twice a year nowadays, but I want to point out some options. If you like Team Seven, there is SR Cora. Or if you want top tier natural tits on a White girl who has the face of peak Elizabeth Olsen, SR Teddy. My hands were all over her tits most of VIP and for just a small tip I could do more with them. Strip clubs require a bit of rizz and it pays to show up clean and smelling right. One huge plus is if you like hot young White girls, Spearmint Rhino has a few and so does Synn.
Excerpted from the Legend of Cora (Oct 2024 Report):
Cora is still looking hot as always, now with cat ears for the season. What a great ass and figure still, never shy to full spread on stage to show us what you can get in VIP. The cat ears suit her, it's not often you get this chance so ask her to keep them on for the bang. But she is unique in she needs to get to know you over multi-visits and vibe well. Gives a decent dance too, just make sure you are clean. About 4-5. She will swear you to secrecy so good intel is hard to get. I need to add she is super popular still, first try I was going up to her and no less than two guys intercepted her before me. That happens a lot with her. Just be patient and get your turn.
With Cora it is important she doesn't see you getting dances with other guys, or you won't vibe as well. Wash hands and be clean for her, don't smell like a stripper.
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...4&d=1728712062 SR Teddy
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...2&d=1728712026 SR Cora
If you just want to stare at her pussy during her stage, it's free after you've paid the one-time entry fee (typically $12-$20 at SR). But stages rotate and it can take a while to see your girl go up. Toss 5 1s and she'll come over and interact with you a bit. If you must have her, tell her to come find you after her stage. If a regular hasn't queued up ahead of you, good chance but girls usually go backstage 10-15 mins after stage first.
My intel is old, but Cora and Teddy are still there. All my tips and guides are still valid years later. COI is not a long drive from OC imo. So I used to often make the drive. When I got tired of korgs, I'd go COI. Then I'd get tired of COI and come back to korgs:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...p-Club-Reports COI Strip Club thread
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05-23-26 21:26 #108Has a chance to visit yesterday and man shit is wild haha. Only complaint got so worked up and really wished could've fucked some of those girls LOL. Good thing I had someone lined up for right after at my hotel already so it was always just going to be a tease. Originally Posted by DownloadX
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Didn't pick but happened to get placed in box 3 and aside from seeing them pick up orders they also use that mirror to adjust their clothes or panties sometimes. If you go definitely do the all girl option, will give you all you need to know about which girls are hot vs hot and down.
Top 3 of the day for me.
1. Non. Looks a bit like Lightsum chowon but smaller tits. She had such a beautiful pussy and was legit getting wet and creamy while playing with herself; had to call her twice.
2. Nono. She was almost a carbon copy of lesserafim chaewon but skinnier; prob had the best performance was very sensual but non just had my number.
3. Moe. Had one of the nicest large naturals I seen to date on a spinner; she knew as much so didn't show them for free though.
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05-21-26 14:06 #107
I posted a PLEASER for Imari J in LA. If you are in OC, don't go to LA just for her it's too far. Girls who are the next city drop a tier in priority.
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7620268 Imari J PLEASER
But in the PLEASER, there is intel and some tips for beginners. These are the tips:
Tips
If you are starting out and not sure what you like, you should see Service girls rather than Looks and ignore my reviews. I focus on Looks.
You can't search 3-letter names so I pad short names to 4 and put in parenthesis ex: (Jooo). Lastly, some bookers have a ton of regulars and simply don't take new people.
High Standards from Intel
People are spoiled by past intel. For example, one of the girls (listed in the PLEASER) is an A or B face among every person I know. But someone newer might say her face is a D or E. I get it, she is the lowest Looks girl he has seen so far. They have been using our reviews to dodge the actual D and E girls, so they haven't met one yet. They'll know when they do! Until then, they naturally stretch "A to B" and make it their "A through D". It's always like this.
The first proof this is happening is for them to see girls without intel, or follow a shill. They would have to use FF and FFF to rate the D and E girls when that day comes. Or quietly, they adopt the new D as a D and rescale their expectations when they realize how common C and D are. Guys who look for Service, they're already fine with the "full spectrum" so to speak. Korgs do have minimum standards - many people go elsewhere then come back again.
The second proof is if you ask them to tell you where the hotter girls are. They will list girls from the past (clue 1) or girls who are marginally better (clue 2). The girls they list, are girls we originally told them about (clue 3). They are complaining about the top 25% girls by listing the top 10% girls. They have not explored the Dark Minefield. They have no intel because they are just following us.
Clues 1 through 3 mean it's not a matter of taste. If anything, they have been following our taste to find unicorns and got used to them. And if "the lowest someone will go" is "a step below unicorn", they're going to be disappointed. It's all downhill from there and korgs aren't for them.
On the bright side, if you match your type you will tend to win. For example, someone who is truly Spinner First is going to like Rai (Baby Abby) and the smaller details won't matter. They are going to rate her much higher than someone who doesn't want a Spinner. Good for them. Just understand it doesn't translate to a person who is not Spinner First.
Unobtanium
When I first saw River, I thought "What are you doing here?" I had a similar thought with Lani too to some extent since she was young, fresh, and had an amazing body. Even with Allie, my reaction was "Can I really? Is it okay?" The problem is, if I review girls like this some guys will find that same appeal and others won't. The guys that don't scratch their heads, they don't get it. So, I stick to physical descriptions that are straightforward and easy to agree on.
It is very predictable that when someone didn't like their Service, they rated their Looks much lower and didn't find them special. There is no good solution for this really. It is enough if I raised someone's success rate from 60% to 80%. I can't raise it to 100%. If someone's success rate doesn't go up significantly from using my reports, don't use them. Our taste is too different.
Certain girls like Kuzumi had a difficulty rating. I already knew which guys were going to like her Service, the hard part was giving clues for the reader. It involved finding both good and bad reviews that agreed with each other on her Specs. The reviews were all clearly describing the same girl, it was the guy that was different. That's what matchmaking really means.
On repeats, I got even better service. With some other girls, I could not accurately describe their service. I really did not know her normal service because even comparing notes, I got a lot more than others. I used dumb tricks like being clean, smelling right, and having normal manners. But it isn't enough to follow the Lizza guide, just that it alone makes a night and day difference at least.
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05-15-26 01:40 #106Looks as if it's POV using Meta Rayban glasses. It seems to be a popular option, but I've never tried it. Originally Posted by Videobandit91
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Sure, but all I can find are selfies from the shop's blog. I'll post examples of Iori and Kiara, but it doesn't show much. They are mostly college girls. Shibuya Galaxy is a HYA Strip club in Tokyo, and when you visit they will do a full search for recording devices. Here is a summary of my SG report: Originally Posted by DashingD
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Shibuya Galaxy
A few people periodically report back on Shibuya Galaxy. People generally have a good time, and it is cheap ($60) and like nothing else. You can hop in and out without an appointment, maybe about an hour is ideal. Here is a similar shop that explains the system in English:
https://nukunuku.club/what-is-kengaku-club/ Nuku Nuku Ikebukuro
Shibuya Galaxy info:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuTPUQF9Eqs&t=114s Youtube "as featured on TV"
https://shibuyagalaxy.livedoor.blog/ SG Blog
https://shibu-gal.com/ SG Website
SG Iori - (S+ Looks), DDG jgirl. DD tits, super skinny waist. Her figure is a like a taller Katie K with bigger tits and sexier face. She has a super naughty face. Her back view is next level, she is model level looks. I noticed she was very popular and hard to order, but I finally got her in. I had to spam the order button when another guy's double order for Iori completed. She likes to be coached and will ask you what you want, but I always leave it up to them.
I will review my experience with Shiori, a different girl from a previous visit:
Shiori Experience (S- Looks)
Using the ipad I ordered Shiori with cat ears (free), socks off (500 yen), no bra (2000 yen). Total extra is 2500 ($17). I recommend this combo for beginners, the other options are kind of too exotic. Before, I could only see Shiori's face from the side. But 2 minutes after ordering her the intercom announces my order and she went up to the front to get the order ticket. Make sure you hit send to confirm your order, or you won't hear an announcement. The ticket she grabs has written down all my dirty requests no matter how elaborate or naughty. Japan is a no judgement zone, no girl ever gave me sideye no matter what I ordered. Not just this shop btw.
Shiori is classy, beautiful hazel eyes, cute face, normal skinny, petite, early 20s. She disappeared in the back to get cat ears. When she came back, she pulled down the curtains for my private show. It was quite shocking to have her staring at me - this is just a Shiori thing and other girls did not. She puts her face close to the glass and held up two cat ears, a black and white to choose from. So I pointed at the black one. She can see my silouette after pulling down curtains and getting close. She started the 10 minute timer and said the usual polite greetings, just give thumbs up if you can't speak. I'm sure some guys will jerk off at this point. This is Japan, go ahead.
Shiori is rubbing her pussy, spreading it different ways, every position, fingering herself briefly. Not every girl does this. Later I would find that Shiori was an anomaly, none of the other 8 girls came close to her level. Shiori knows what men want, no wonder everyone kept picking her. The best view was from behind showing me everything, the pussy and anus clearly visible an inch from the glass, 2 inches from my eyes as I leaned forward. I have seen kgirl HYAs in this view, but never with 100% full white lighting. If you are a visual guy, it is cheap and good value imo. There was only an invisible glass barrier between us like a giant condom, it is hard to notice after a while.
By the way, even kgirl MILFs don't have her level of inhibition. The cute vs naughty gap is huge with certain girls like her. Another person also saw Shiori and wrote to me "Shiori was definitely leagues above the rest." Amen.
https://x.com/Shiori_galaxy
After the show Shiori sat back in her seat, totally back to normal and ignoring me again. Some time later, she notices an insect on the ground. She kicks it a few times with her foot first hoping it will buzz off. But it can't fly with damaged wings, just annoy her. Then, she picks it up and quickly tosses it in the trash. This is very symbolic of P4P. We customers attract the hot young girl's full attention briefly and they take good care of us, and then they ignore us again like we don't exist. Just the idea itself almost gets you rock hard again.
There is tissue available in case you cum. This is Japan, jerking off in front of a HYA is perfectly normal and common sense. Be polite and show your support.
When Entering SG
When you first enter, inside there are signs in Japanese and English to take your shoes off. You take them off and hang then on the shoe rack to the right. Grab a pair of red slippers to wear. Walk up to the staff table and pay your entry fee. Sometimes there is a wait and so you sit on the stool. When ready, you go left to the security check where you put things in a locker. Full TSA style body check. After the check, you get a key and ipad, plus any personal non-electronics items you can hand the staff.
More Details
SG is cheap and 100% foreigner friendly, an easy rec for "try one time". Located 8 minute walk from Shibuya station.
The best seats are 4-6, then 3. The VIP is unusual because you sit behind the girls, maybe okay to try once. You can literally peek their shoulders and see them scrolling Instagram and Youtube and what they're doing on their phone. I wasn't sure if it was wholesome or creepy, since this is fully consensual. Whereas seat 3 is very special because it is next to the order desk so every girl has to pass you as you look up their skirt. Many bare pussy. You are the invisible man at Shibuya Galaxy, a fantasy every man has once had I suppose.
Bribs: It's a one way mirror? Or the girls can see you? Damn I wish I tried this during my trip last year.
It is a one-way mirror normally, but when the girl performs her show with curtains down and when you and her get close she can see your silhouette slightly.
CowboyCheeba: Shibuya Galaxy was definitely fun. The girls I chose were fine as hell and super erotic shows. I was expecting way less, and was pleasantly surprised. Although two of the 3 girls I chose for shows, were teasing their huge natural tits, and didn't reveal them fully -- maybe I needed to spend more on options but the first girl stripped fully nude and was hot as hell. I'm glad I experienced it.
Yes, the girls each have their own routine and it's up to them. Even though the basic option doesn't guarantee tits, some girls show it anyways. You can tip 2000 yen ($12) for tits. Things like cat ears are free. Bare pussy is generally included but it's always up to the girl. The better girls like Shiori make it the centerpiece of her show.
The ipads they give you, there is a language option you can set to English on the top left corner. Scrolling to the the most important menus are the "choice the girl" (sp) and all options menus. Options are listed in order of pricing.
Occasionally you order a girl and are informed she is in the middle of a show already, busy spreading her virgin ass and pussy for another guest. So they will cancel your order in that case. Your ipod will be locked out when staff has to come over, so don't be confused.
On weekdays it is 8500 yen ($59) entry fee to see about 6-8 cute college aged girls. That rate includes 3 10-minute show tickets. It is way naughtier than US strip clubs with perfect lighting and inches away, it made me blush. They are 100% English and foreigner friendly, some staff speak English if you prefer.
My first visit, it was 8 girls rated S-, A+, A+, B, B, B, C, C. They are generally early 20s. This averages B+, and of course I simply picked the top two girls for my first shows. That day all the girls wore white shirts, plaid skirts, black socks. The S-, A+, A+ girls kept getting called over by other customers over and over.
Of course I can stare at them all I want. Or, call them over and put them into outfits and accessories. You can pay to extend your time or order extra girls. Sometimes when girls walk past me I can see their ass, because their skirt is way too short. Some you can see pussy. I often got seat 3 for this view. When they walked by, I could see every single hair and detail so it's quite surreal.
You must put things into a locker and then take that locker's key, then they search you thoroughly to prevent recording devices. They attach your key to an ipad you hold on to. Any extra upcharges you order are settled after, so you don't need your wallet.
All Girl Option
Instead of asking for just 1 girl to do a 10 minute show, you can actually ask for every girl to do a 1 minute show. Of course I did that! It excludes girls who are busy so I've gotten 4 girls one time, 8 girls another. When you send the order in, an announcement will ring and say 'all girl' (in English) and they all know the King has arrived to inspect his whole harem. And to be clear, this inspection includes clear bare pussy shots 1-3 inches from the King's face. Front and back views both. It's good to be the King.
Every girl is summoned before the King one at a time to show what they've got. Each one starts a 1 minute timer. Some fingered themselves, licking their fingers to get it in reeeeeal good. Better than porn imo, some jgirls fully unlock when you aren't recording them.
The less popular girls know who they are, they will make a special cute appeal to me when they wave good bye. I already knew Shiori's routine so this was just a 1 minute summary of it, it was a good synopsis like the Cliff Notes of her whole routine. Shiori is really popular so she doesn't do the winking and waving afterwards routine the B-Tier girls will do.
This sums up the customer experience:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993nvsfwvnY&t=267s Window Love
By the way, Shibuya Galaxy is located around Dogenzaka hill. This same alley takes you to TAE (#1 budget DH) and Tora no Ana (Aika). There are tons of trendy night clubs too, and it gets packed Friday and Saturday night. Special thanks to Rick Rock for TAE and Shibuya Galaxy. Also special thanks to Bribs and many others for licking the tits of Japan's women while I was not there.
Excerpted:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3011458 Shibuya Galaxy Part 1
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3015459 Shibuya Galaxy Part 2
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3061961 Shibuya Galaxy Part 3
The Three Nos
To avoid GPS and save your wallet and feelings, here are "The three Nos" of Japan:
1) Many many friends who went to Japan will joke that they want to marry a specific working jgirl. No! See her 100 times for less.
2) Some friends say they will ask for 'custom booking' of a top JAV girl, but they get quoted some ridiculous inflated sum $800 to $12000. No! See a better girl for less.
3) Some friends say an ATF oppai pub girl will ask them for champagne on their 2nd or 3rd visit with sudden GPS. No! Lick her rival's tits.
See attached meme. Memes are just for laughs.
Hosekinobako
The breakdown of Hosekinobako girl looks was 20% S-Tier, 40% A-Tier, 30% B-Tier, 10% C-Tier. They have a high turnover so lower level girls don't last. Even B-Tier girls know who they are, so they talk to you different than the S-Tier girls.
It's an outdated list, but here are some girls in the past I liked:
https://fujoho.jp/index.php?p=girl&id=4589070 HOS Rito (better than ad photo, Team Seven HYA)
https://fujoho.jp/index.php?p=girl&id=4590731 HOS Natsu (light PS, HYA)
https://fujoho.jp/index.php?p=girl&id=3826935 HOS Miyu (light PS, HYA)
https://fujoho.jp/index.php?p=girl&id=4572122 HOS Arisu (light PS, HYA)
https://fujoho.jp/index.php?p=girl&id=4619649 HOS Airi (better than ad photo, HYA)
2nd to last image is for a different shop, Hosekinobako. If you can't read Japanese, you can still memorize the giant O in their logo and find the sign on the elevator. It's the 11th floor. Girls tell me they are okay with non-Japanese speakers and that almost 20% of their customers are from Asian countries. Mostly Chinese and Korean visitors near Japan. But I still recommend you go with a local first visit.
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CAKD Ng (Nggg) - Very beautiful. Good looks and service. Tall, skinny, white skin, light bush, 30s, 5'6", C MMs with good nipples. Good face and body, beautiful pre-MILF face. It is a nicer face than typical HYA. Body and ass are beautiful with a skinny waist. Good pussy, strictly GFE. Good eye contact and attention. Borderline S / A Looks overall to me, she is my type. Pre-MILF but most HYA Hunters will be happy, maybe unless you are very young. Her boobs feel soft and great, I did not realize they were MMs until much later which is good. She is a bit sassy, and she knows what to do. It took some time for me to vibe with her but I did feel she is special and would repeat.
She is like Baby Sweet's big sister in some ways (taller, older, pre-MILF), the connection is good and natural. I noticed many people liked Ng's face more than Baby Sweet, but Baby Sweet's body more than Ng. I think so too, but that's in the context of both of them being high level. Ng is more DTF, while Sweet is more charming. When Sweet said "See you tomorrow", it had the power of reality. Other than being strictly GFE only, Ng is a certain kind of naughty.
Looks should appeal to any HYA Hunter. Even though I put her at 30s (about 35), she looks better than almost all 20s kgirls as an exception. The same idea with FA Tomi, who is early 40s but also hotter than very many girls in their 20s. If you are a young guy, maybe it's different. Ng's service is also good to any HYA Hunter, probably to most Balanced Hunters too. No idea beyond that. She has no plan to go LA this tour.
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7610036 Ng by Goku
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7612729 Ng Summary
Also:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7606489 5/7 PLEASERs
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7593877 4/22 PLEASERs
DDG vs GND
Here are examples of GND (Girl Next Door) vs DDG (Drop Dead Gorgeous):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvtoY0lfYJ8 TripleS GND style
https://youtu.be/OvtoY0lfYJ8?t=15 TripleS DDG style
It is a combo of raw materials, make up, and style. Some from the GND group you could doll up to DDG, some from the DDG group border GND. It's a whole spectrum. Some girls are surprisingly popular on Vibe rather than Looks, so looks aren't everything. But when I rate Looks, I exclude Vibe.
Later in the video, the same girls are styled natural and cute in comparison. We can call it Balanced style. They even cut between the same girl, you almost can't recognize them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvtoY0lfYJ8&t=83s TripleS Balanced style
Looks Only
S-Tier
MH Yua, FA Isabella, SG Iori, MH Nina, THC Hasumi, FA Jira, CAKD Katie K, Gingira Nanase, Laurent, BB Asuka, Baby Rose, Lani, SBC Daisy, Lizza aka Baby Dalli, CAKD Heaven K, River, MH Cherry, Kuzumi J, Baby Sol, Ng (Nggg)
A-Tier
Baby Sweet, Baby Mury, CAKD Dani, ETO Hinata, CAKD Winter aka Seven, CAKD Hanni, SC Emily, Nali, Baby Yul, Sherry K aka Leslie K aka SBC Hannah, Baby Aqua, MH Lily, Baby Minami J, Melody J aka SKG Marin, MH Malina C No1, CAKD Yua, CAKD Nara, FA Claudia L, Baby Ayaka aka Momo K, MH Ayaka aka NYSE Umeko, Chanel2, CAKD Drea, SKP Ahmi, MH Ella, Purple K aka Tiara, Minji, CAKD Winnie, CAKD Minami J (NOT Baby Minami J), CAKD Rayne K, CAKD Aoi J, CAKD Tiana, Susie K aka Sochi, Chanel3, MH Juliya, Mido, CAKD Amy V, Lime, Ericka, Ariana, Allie aka Mina, TAE Saki, Crystal, FA Tomi aka Pink, Baby Arin, CAKD Yulie, FA Cherry
The above list is only going to help people with my taste and only as far as Looks. The goal is to help people discover new girls they didn't know about, so I removed some retired girls and well-known veterans who already have lots of regulars. There is an SS-Tier list, but they don't work korgs and you have to pay JAV prices for them. Aika is the most famous at low SS- Looks.
SG Iori (Shibuya Galaxy, Tokyo) - DDG jgirl. DD tits, super skinny waist. Her figure is a like a taller Katie K with bigger tits and sexier face. She has a super naughty face. Her back view is next level, she is model level looks. I noticed she was super popular and hard to order, but I finally got her in. She likes to be coached and will ask you what you want, but I always leave it up to them.
https://shibu-gal.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuTPUQF9Eqs&t=114s Youtube "as featured on TV"
https://shibuyagalaxy.livedoor.blog/ Blog
Baby Sweet - HYA. 5'5" High looks high service, beautiful. A or B tits, all natural body, good proportions, good ass. Pleaser, good English, sweet voice. Nice hair and nails. Experienced with some skills, dtf, adorable laugh. Very popular.
Same laugh as MH Cherry.
Looks Only has its limits. When I consider true ATFs, it more closely follows the Looks + Service score:
Looks + Service
S-Tier
Etoile Hinata, Lizza, MH Cherry, FA Isabella, Yua Japan, MH Nina, Nali, Baby Yul, SBC Daily, SC Emily, FA Jira, Katie K, FA Cherry, Baby Rose, Baby Arin, Baby Mury, Baby Sweet, CAKD Dani, CAKD Heaven K, Ng (Nggg)
A-Tier
CGLA Hani, FA Tomi, Ariana, Gingira Nanase, SKP Ahmi, THC Hasumi, BB Asuka, Jenny K, Winter aka Seven, Baby Aqua, Baby Sol, Kuzumi J, Laurent, Purple K, Sherry K, Evian, MH Lily, CAKD Nara, CAKD Rayne, Susie K, CAKD Hanni, Haven, Lani, Melody J
Some girls like Rayne get better every visit. In the case of FA Isabella, it was really clear this was due to her actual Service improving. I saw Isabella's Service go from D-Tier (brand new but willing) to S-Tier over 5 tours. Jenny K was similar. Whereas there are other girls who struggle to go from C to B over just as much experience. Baby Sol got way better within one single tour, I actually lay back and her let her start on me on my final visit. For this reason, even my own notes can only predict so much for myself. Service is way more ymmv than Looks, even for the same guy.
ETO Hinata (Etoile @ Yoshiwara, Japan) - A+ Tier Looks, SS Tier Service. Petite, 5'0", very skinny, top tier DDD tits MMs, 30s pre-MILF, pure white skin, DDG body. Her tits are beautiful and perfect shaped, they look proportionally way bigger than even Nali. Body is top tier and similar shape to MH Cherry but shorter. It is very good and skinny proportions head to toe. Her mouth is better than pussy. It is lay back and relax service from beginning to end. Ticklish on knees and bottom of feet, I would just let her take the lead the whole two hours. Her focus is on very long cock worship through every technique possible, it was 80% mouth 10% pussy 10% hand. Non-stop action from one course to the next, I got 110 minutes of action in a 120 minute session. Head to toe worship. She has no judgement just acceptance.
She is a clever girl with a dirty mind, and she learned to speak exactly enough English to serve foreigners. She understands what men want. She is unusal in Japan for being practically foreigner only - she prefers them over locals. Her standard course is 2 hours, do not book 1 hour even if you normally would. You more or less don't have to do anything for the 2 hours of service. Her service helped me learn more about myself.
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7596300 ETO Hinata
Rankings System
To get my Looks or Service rankings, I order girls from 1st to last place and then separate them out into Tiers. If you blind toftt korgs, you would get about 4% S-Tier, 12% A-Tier, 20% B-Tier, 25% C-Tier, 20% D-Tier, 15% E-Tier, 4% F-Tier. But if you are a HYA Hunter and always use intel for Looks, of course you will get more S through B. That is the practical purpose of rating girls. Note that 4% means 2 girls out of 50. Some people grade stricter at around 2%, others are more lenient at about 6%. At 4%, many HYA Hunters are +/- 1 Tier from each other (80% of the time) while at 2% it grows to about 1.5 Tier variation. The other problem with a strict 2% is you will need to use FF and FFF Tier. Use what you like, intel is always better than no intel and we'll figure it out.
I don't want to give a long math explanation, but if you rate Face or Body and combine them as Looks then the distribution by definition must be different. For example, 10% S-Tier Face and 10% S-Tier Body. Otherwise, the math cannot work out to 4% S-Tier overall. Or, you can do 4% S-Tier Face but then you cannot average the two. It won't work. What you can do instead is re-rank the girls in order from 1st to last place, meaning an S Face A Body would by definition be S-Tier. Try as you may, you must pick one method or the other.
The exact same thing happens for Looks + Service combined. I add together Looks and Service and do a full re-ranking to get S-Tier overall. But I do it on a points system where B through D is linear (B = 3, C = 2, D = 1) but S is worth 6.3 and A is worth 4.5. S+ 6.8, S 6.3, S- 5.7, A+ 5.1, A 4.5, A- 4, B 3, C 2, D 1. Somewhere between E and F is an auto-fail, meaning if a girl's service is hostile then it doesn't matter how hot she is. And if a girl is truly ugly then it doesn't matter how good her service is. I'm actually okay with D-Tier Looks and S-Tier service and would repeat it, but it falls off a cliff after that point.
Spinner and Team Seven
What is a spinner? The dictionary definition is a small, petite woman - some combination of short and/or skinny weighing below a certain amount. As an example, JAV star Sasaki Saki. Someone remarked Saki resembles Katie K. I didn't think so at first, but now I can't unsee it. Well-known OC spinners include Lizza, Katie K, Tiana, Evian, Baby Sol, Jenny K, Allie, Mali aka Nali as examples.
Spinner overlaps with Team Seven but is different. Team Seven is a short skinny perfectly proportioned body, basically a petite skinny DDG body. Baby Sol and FA Jira are the best examples, Tiana and FA Tomi to some extent as well. Examples of Team Seven:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOTWegZrIgQ Team Seven Cat Girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0OyLN2CKYU Team Seven Alternate
https://www.instagram.com/seb1nnn/?hl=en Seb1nnn
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7152993 White Bona
Most spinners are not Team Seven, but most Team Seven are spinners. Lizza, Katie K, Jenny K, Nali, and Evian are examples of spinners who "look short" whereas Team Seven are short but don't look it proportionally.
About 5% of girls are Team Seven. But if you go to City of Industry Synn, almost 50% of the girls there are.
Sasaki Saki Decensored JAV
De-censored JAV is getting better due to AI, but the quality is still hit and miss. Bustyxxx is if you have a RG or XM account to download. Supjav for streaming. You can always find a link on javlibrary if you expand the comments (there's usually 1-3 pages of links)
https://bustyxxx.cc/?s=IPZZ-727 IPZZ Sasaki Saki
https://supjav.com/?s=IPZZ-727 IPZZ Sasaki Saki
https://www.javlibrary.com/en/javme3lxtq.html IPZZ on Javlibrary
https://www.javlibrary.com/en/videoc...me3lxtq&page=3 IPZZ Expanded Links
Excerpted:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7547564 Waiting for your ATF
Face Variation
Make up is scary, but it works. My first time seeing Chanel2 last year she had zero make up and natural style, like a real girlfriend. I don't mind as much as most guys, so it only lowered her one level. Chanel2 later did make up and looked next level. But girls aren't gonna do full make up like TripleS because it will wear off the moment too much action happens. Chanel2 even managed to go halfway to Xinyu level on certain visits (but not others), shown below. Almost any girl could in theory go all the way, but very few do since it is hard to keep it up. Even real Xinyu doesn't look like that when she wakes up. For these reasons, when I rate Looks all I can report is what I saw. If I saw her many times, I average it out.
Even women classify guys between GND and DDG. It is a split between 'rugged and natural' GND men rather than model-like DDG men who put in more effort and have striking sharp features:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTsWWnrEt0_/ Ikemen classification
Age Estimates
Age is hard to estimate. I over-estimated some girls' age because they had face work (MH Cherry, Baby Sol), but on repeats it was clear they were younger. Other girls, I under-estimated their age because they were hot and had good make up. Comparing notes, it feels like the best I could ever do is be +/- 5 years 80% of the time. Others may struggle with +/- 10 years. So the solution is for many people to give an estimate, I keep an open mind. It usually forms a bell-curve past a certain point.
I've often waited for my 2nd to 4th visit to review a girl because it takes that many visits to average out Age and Face estimates. For example in my notes Krissy's face was C B B B A rating the first 5 times I saw her, so I finally wrote down B face. In Krissy's case she had zero make up my 1st visit, it was very obviously different. Generally Body tends to be more consistent between visits, so you can say Face and Age are hard to estimate. People tend to agree on Tits and Body to a far greater degree. They also don't change as much between visits.
I estimated Rayne K as early 20s, but I wondered if I was accurate or not. Even with my eyes closed she felt early 20s, it's a lot of details even down to her pussy. I wrote down early 20s in my journal and waited a bit to compare notes as a form of feedback. I checked if people were saying late 20s versus early 30s for example. Like you say, my goal is to make sure people know what to expect and pick a girl that suits them. I do really think Rayne is early 20s, but early 20s is rare. Even if I'm wrong, I think it's better to just say it.
MM boobs are a good example of the difficulty of estimates. Had I done hh with Ng I would have written down C natural and never noticed. Some MMs are very well done, and to me they are as good as natural.
If you want people to review, you have to accept that they're going to be wrong sometimes. And I have to ignore the haters if I'm going to review. Or I'd have stopped so long ago. I noticed the number one reason people stopped reviewing is complaints, even when to me they were actually right. The second most is drama. It almost makes people want to review in TER instead, where reviews tend to be generic so girls' can't complain either way. But, it's less accurate due to the format.
Attractiveness vs Looks Only
One other factor is there are girls with D or C face (Viki, Baby Iu) but due to the Nali factor, they treated me so nice I got used to their face. Attractiveness = Looks Only + Nali Factor + Haven Factor. So the great Service and Vibe I got from the 1st visit made them objectively more Attractive 2nd visit. They were equivalent to hotter girls by the 3rd visit. To me and other guys, Attractiveness is the only thing that matters. But for reviews, I give the Looks Only rating which subtracts that factor off. Because it is a better prediction for what a new guy will see.
Both example girls are Body over Face and in the range of C Looks overall, but they're the equivalent of much hotter girls on repeats due to Service. And in certain positions focusing on body, by definition they are hotter than girls with nice faces but weak body. So, I do that.
15th Law of Kgirls
On average, I'm going to like my ATFs more than you. In fact it is a basic mathematical principle that if I talk about girls I like, I will like them more than you. The same works the other way - if you tell me about girls you like, on average you like those girls more than me. Almost by definition. It's not a matter of exaggeration, and it's why I ignore the opinion of anyone who doesn't review. Their ATF list is no better than mine.
So what I can do is be extra careful to talk about the high end of girls I like. Maybe the S through mid-B Looks girls, or girls I thought had a good overall score in Looks and Service like Jenny K. I generally had a good time with C-Tier girls, many of whom are priced well making them as easy a choice as any upcharge B-Tier girl. But if guys are picking by Looks and are in a "I can only pick one girl" situation, it is better to aim higher. Variety lovers don't need these rankings.
Lookalikes
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7506325 Laurent
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7552728 Chanel2, Baby Abby
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7556773 Baby Mury, Lizza
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7520403 Baby Sol
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7524933 Sherry K
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7517711 Lime, Winter..Lizza, Katie K
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7508028 River
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7496462 Heaven K
How The Girls See Us
Excerpted from Shibuya Galaxy (HYA Strip club) review:
After the show Shiori sat back in her seat, totally back to normal and ignoring me again. Some time later, she notices an insect on the ground. She kicks it a few times with her foot first hoping it will buzz off. But it can't fly with damaged wings, just annoy her. Then, she picks it up and quickly tosses it in the trash. This is very symbolic of P4P. We customers attract the hot young girl's full attention briefly and they take good care of us, and then they ignore us again like we don't exist. Just the idea itself almost gets you rock hard again.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3011458 Shibuya Galaxy Part 1
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3015459 Shibuya Galaxy Part 2
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3061961 Shibuya Galaxy Part 3
OTC
The paradox is the better the girl, the more depressed the guy gets. Because he knows he can't fix her, he can only break himself. Any normal adjusted girl was already taken long ago. The ones who aren't, there's a really good reason. Every week lately, someone else tells me a different girl makes him sad. Even though she did nothing wrong and is wonderful. The closer he gets, the more he sees the problem and why it can't work. If only he tried the Middle Road.
The few guys who managed to navigate well, they maintained the Middle Road. They make it clear upfront the relationship will never get deep, they pay as they go, the girl understands what he wants each visit. So they make nice and happy memories with the girl, they both get something out of it each visit. Both of them can walk away guilt free and still friends. When things seem to get too close, he steers her back to the Middle Road. Even when the feelings seem real. It's the only way.
I learned all of this dealing with jgirls for many years, and I still have to get reminded every now and then. The Professionals was written because one jgirl was a Hostess and I didn't even know. It is very predictable when you meet a Pro who automatically tries to get more money from you every time. It's why I have to incept the idea into beginners, because they won't believe me the first time. But then they experience it and the inception makes them immune to the 2nd time. Very few girls are even candidates for OTC, the girl has to be safe for both your money and emotions. No drama.
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7600735 OTC (middle of post)
Video Option
I only review JAV jgirls for video since it is cheap and reliable. Do a CTRL+F for THC Hasumi for my best rec at $95 for on-menu video. JAV girls already have published work, so people don't tend to leak things ironically. With other girls, someone is always determined to ruin a good thing.
There was one cgirl who offered it at a corg. She would use her phone to make the video and after checking it send it to the guy. No one caused problems, so she still offers it.
Whereas there was a problem in 2024 where someone posted one girl's video online and the booker had to get involved. And there are guys who are determined to sell on-menu videos. The girls' regular then tells the girl and she stops offering it too. The girls tell each other. This cycle ruins a good thing, and it's the chief reason why kgirls don't offer it. It's why many jgirls don't offer video or have a lot of restrictions. For example jgirl Mari will only do video with mask. An S-Tier Service jgirl, she toured OC with CGLA.
Maybe it'll relax in future years if nothing bad happens again. Until then, you can fly to Japan for full video options. Half the TAE girls offer it, you can see it as a blue stamp on their profile.
Ng Lookalike
Attached are two photo models for Ng based on Kang Min-Kyung thanks to Jlq. They are both of KMK despite being different. Ng is in-between the two photos, and it captures her tallish model look and face type. Maybe 75% close. I considered other options, but it is hard to match her. Also attached are 2 of Sasaki Saki, who is a vibe model for Katie K. Also attached are 2 of pre-MILF / MILF Aika. She literally grew more beautiful with age as an exception. Low SS- Looks.
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05-06-26 01:15 #104
Tiana is in OC. She is a petite and skinny kgirl with very good proportions, making her Team Seven body type. Team Seven means a petite girl who has perfect body proportions. A 'short model' including legs hands and feet, as opposed to midget / dwarf proportions. Typically 5'0" to 5'5", regardless of face. For example Baby Sol, Heaven K, FA Tomi, or FA Jira. Or this girl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOTWegZrIgQ Team Seven, Cat Girl
CAKD Tiana - 5'2", tiny spinner, skinny, tanned. B or C cup MMs, sensitive nipples. Long black hair with stylish curls, small hands and small feet. Submissive and with some skills, knows how to ride. Not a service queen, but nice for spinner lovers. She is young to me, my guess is about 30. She is ticklish on neck and side of face, LFK. Enjoys sex and naturally wet, quiet and subdued feedback, genuine reactions. Good visuals especially doggy. Petite. Will stroke you gently when you hug her. Team Seven spinner body. Her body has a good shape and feel. Well toned and normal skinny.
https://get9irl.com/Tiana Tiana
Tiana is tiny even with her heels on. She is an easy rec for Spinner First guys. She has the slow, quiet, and submissive type of service I like. Ribbon is another example of this.
Asobi is in OC. Tall with a combo both looks and service, good skills, big tits, vocal.
https://cakdolls.com/escort/asobi-op...me-in-ca-8-27/
Another review of Asobi:
For Service guys, here are links for Sunja and Okja: Originally Posted by BrainLara
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https://get9irl.com/Sunja Sunja
https://get9irl.com/Okja Okja
They offer 2-4 girl service including a special assist by Bongja who can show up at the end of your session to spice things up:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7602033 Sunja, Okja, Bokja +1
Yes, Jenny K is popular because of her price and she checks multiple boxes for many people. She has broad appeal with no major Dealbreakers, a "safe" choice like Baby Arin. And she does a lot of things right with a good attitude. She even showed me things she learned that I had never tried, enthusiastically. Originally Posted by Heisenberg69
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She knows how to put you at ease, very good Vibe. I notice she isn't #1 to a lot of guys, but #2 or #3 to very many. Or put another way, she has a high "would repeat" rate. The price makes repeats easy and helps her outrank a lot of kgirls on the Value aspect. I wrote out a Theorem on Jenny K's Value. It is using an old linear formula (S = 5, A = 4, B = 3):
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7444476 Jenny K Theorem
Another hard to book girl is CAKD Rayne K. One factor is she is very limited schedule. Her strong point is she really enjoys sex and is DTF, very young. Gets wet naturally if you prepare her with nice foreplay. Another new review that sums it up:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7605142 Rayne K
KDC is bringing in Anna aka Anna K.
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7604007 Anna K
https://www.kdreamc.com/oc
https://get9irl.com/index.php?route=...roduct_id=2408
FA Tomi is listed as back Wednesday. Her strong points is she is hot with a petite skinny body, tits, and is very DTF. I've always had a great time, but it is hard to predict compatability. I consider her a Value girl with a combo of good Looks, good Service, good Price. Her rate is 30 for 240, 45 for 280, 60 for 320. 50 bb, 50 msog. FA's hh rate is very budget friendly.
FA Tomi - High looks and high service. Tomi is skinny, C MMs, about 5'3", mature, tanned, and has an amazing well-toned body like a stripper. Good body proportions, Team Seven. Petite TOAS body type (TOAS = tits on a stick). She has good bbbj skills and can go long, and she really enjoys sex, good high pussy. Quirky personality, her English is good. OG kgirl service, a Legendary kgirl.
GFE Only Options
If you are a strictly GFE only guy, there is Lani, Stella, Ng and others. Scroll down or do a CTRL+F search for Lani and Stella descriptions. Ng is a 2-letter name, so if you extend the last letter until it is 4-letters you can a search for Nggg and find this mention:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...gg#post7598018 Nggg
You can then see the post right above:
Or her 4 reviews expanded out: Originally Posted by Solo Bolo
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https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7598986 CAKD and Ng
Here is another video for Rokusan Angels. If you buy a VIP ticket, there is some chance you'll be invited on stage briefly. The staff will borrow your phone to take video and later photos for you. The show encourages you to post to social media to spread the word, so here is a phone POV example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u_IB-5JXzs&t=68s Rokusan customer phone view
Attached are examples of Team Seven body type. Baby Sol, FA Cherry, Heaven K were good examples among OC kgirls.
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05-01-26 20:08 #103
If you are a Service Hunter, SAG has a 2-4 girl experience:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7602033 Sunja, Okja Bonja
https://www.sweetasiangem.com/ SAG
Sounds like the above girls know what to do. Reverse gangbang survivor Fuzion has standards, so if you have seen girls he has seen you can figure out if his taste will help you. Intel on duos really matters because other duos don't have the same tag-team factor where girls "know how to duo". For those new to duos, this is how my MILF duo went. First time, the novelty boosts the experience and it was nice but you have to consider the expense: Originally Posted by Fuzion
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http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7088619 A Tale of Two Duos (MILF)
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7447305 Jgirl duo (HYA)
Duos are best for veterans. They know what they like and can maximize the visit. Let one girl work on your bottom half as your hands or mouth work on the other girl. Big mirrors are nice, line them up. You can see how in both above duos, other guys might have gotten the "just two girls" experience, but I brought my service and coached them into a next level experience.
I don't remember Baby Bin reviews, but it could just be the three-letter name making it hard to search. I'll say Baby Binn here for people doing a search, and she is good as long as you don't mind many tattoos.
500/hr Lani starts 5/2. Aka CGLA / SBC Lehilani. She has cute and natural appeal, great body and ass too. High looks, must bring plenty of service. 3-star difficulty rating (Kuzumi J level).
3-Star Difficulty BYOS
3-star difficulty are HYA where you have to really bring the service. Some of them are very DTF like Lani or Kuzumi and perform well in bed, but are submissive and have no kgirl attitude. You sometimes wonder if they are laying back and enjoying it more than you. Some of us find that very hot and see their genuine enjoyment and smiles, but it's not for everyone.
It is stille asier than 4-star difficulty where you have to seduce the girl across multiple appointments. People don't try to climb Mount Everest because it's easy. Lani was very nice to me every time, but I got the service I wanted service after showing her what I liked and a little coaching.
Stella may be an example of 0-star difficulty. Do what makes you happy.
For those interested, here are some alternate bookers if you don't use Get9. Rokm lists her as starting 5/2 with the correct 500 hr rate, so they are up to date:
https://www.rokm.ch/product-page/lani-gfe ROKM
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/ROK-Girls ROKM HX
Also a HX only booker:
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/K-Avengers K-Avengers
Just today, CGLA added Lani too. She is next to Jenny K who is once again fully booked:
https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/lani
Lastly, I'll mention KDC because they are an important agency that has hosted many great girls including Jenny K:
https://www.kdreamc.com/ KDC
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/KgirlDream KDC HX
You can always tell which bookers are up to date by scrolling through rentry listings and paying attention. Some HX profiles are also good about ad updates if you hit subscribe (you can tell city and sometimes new girls). Others are good about adding ads to their photo sections. CAKD and FA are the best at updating HX, you could even use HX in lieu of any website.
The Premium Girls
In order of looks, my opinion is Baby Rose, Lani, Baby Mury, and Chanel3. In order of service, Baby Mury, Chanel3, Baby Rose, Lani. If you prefer strictly GFE, then obviously Lani. Each of these girls has reviews, so you don't have to rely on mine.
Get9 Lani - S-Tier HYA. 5'4, high looks, must bring the service. Cute and beautiful face, B cup natural, long straight hair, tanned, normal skinny, fit body, good ass and proportions. HYA skills, you'll have to bring the service. For full HYA Hunters only. Some English if you keep it simple, but not conversational. GFE only and 400 hr. She still has a very newish vibe. Important: No kgirl attitude, no msog on menu. She is for full HYA Hunters who bring all the service, especially if you prefer an all natural look.
She is very cute, good face and body with a great ass. It is fun if you bring the service, but don't expect kgirl worship or attitude. It is FWB vibe. Lani is for true Looks First guys, for full HYA Hunters who enjoy bringing the service rather than laying back. Similar idea to River. Guys who like cute will rate Lani's face higher, guys who want sexy will rate her face lower. It is very predictable. Body has broad appeal.
For more details:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7601267 Lani
Some girls like Jenny K and Rayne K are so popular it can be random if you'll get a spot. But eventually, you can.
CAKD Rayne K - HYA. Early 20s. Young and all natural looks, cute face, tanned, natural B or C tits. Well-toned body that feels like Sherry K. Very good attitude with fresh vibe, still learning with good effort. A bit sassy. Very DTF, enjoys sex with good natural reactions. Decent English, can hold basic conversation. I liked that she was fresh and easy to vibe with. Limited schedule. Fast learner, if she has fun she will stay.
Check her out from behind in doggy. It is a beautiful young pussy.
Jenny K is a high level Triangle girl imo, you get more while paying less. Triangle girls will be more important some day after the Final Prophecy happens. They will replace and even train the next generation of girls. With just one Dealbreaker of being very mature, Pepsi herself is a Triangle Girl for GILF hunters:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7589944 The Final Prophecy
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7499972 The Legend of Pepsi
The main alternative to Triangle Girls are Service Princesses, whom we can level up ourselves. But, it's not easy and they mainly appeal to HYA Hunters. OC is where many Service Princesses are born. Every city has a different preference.
On girls being in pain, here are my tips to avoid that and also avoid getting banned. It even gets me better service imo. I wrote the original versions out for Lizza in Socal as well as Baby Minami J East Coast, since they both had tight pussy. If it helps even a few more people win, it's worth mentioning: Originally Posted by LemonPepper
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The Lizza Guide - How to Prepare HYA
If you follow the Lizza guide and prepare HYA, you won't have a problem and you won't break her pussy. Every veteran HYA Hunter has some variant. Women get aroused the same as guys through kissing their parts and touching. It takes a few minutes and when you enter you start slow. It will be wonderful love making. I had no problems even though I'm above average size. But guys who were smaller than me could wear the same girls out.
First, I prepare the girl by making her feel safe and comfortable. A few words, some good eye contact, gentle touching and watching her reaction. The first few minutes of introduction are key. In bed, I work on the foreplay. Same as a man, a woman gets aroused and it starts extra blood flow. The blood flow causes the vaginal walls to swell and expand..and doubles the depth on average. Every woman is aroused differently. It is called The Password.
The Password
Very occasionally, the foreplay is good and you don't even need 1 minute. So I remember what I did that turned her on so, I call it The Password. I just use it again next time, they love it. Guessing a woman's password is one of the great pleasures of life. Some girls don't even know their own password! I actually showed Sherry K how to best and most efficiently turn her on, long ago. Each girl likes something different.
A typical vagina starts at 2 to 4 inches depth, growing to 5 to 8 inches after arousal. Even men cannot get arousal when stressed or scared, so it pays to prepare the woman. You are the main beneficiary. With some girls who are extra tight, let the girl show you her desired pace to start. Then take over when things look good. Even lubrication is important, so when using lube the first few strokes will spread it properly. When changing position to doggy, start slow again the first several strokes. Once I learned and improved this, I got along with girls in bed.
Naturally, some girls are even more relaxed or confident second visit with me. I didn't know how to do any of this when I started out, but 10 years later I started getting much better at it. I got way better results from it. Some women who were clearly low service HYA started giving me high service instead. To the point I could not call it intel anymore, because other people wouldn't get what I got. But I noticed the same friends would get it, which told me it was definitely not random.
Getting Better Service
Some of the HYA Hunters, we have a routine to get better service. Good hygene, grooming, smelling right. A respectful balanced attitude, not trying too hard but not being too cold either - you make her feel safe and comfortable. Then usually, you can go far. First impressions mean a few words, some good eye contact, gentle touching and watching her reaction, starting slow and working your way up. It doesn't work on every girl, but our success rate goes much higher with this start. People who don't do this wouldn't believe us.
For LA:
Baby Minami J - HYA. 20s, very skinny, pure white skin, petite, maybe 5'2", B or C cup natural, black hair, cute, good attitude. Face is adorable and innocent, ass is soft. She knows how to BBBJ, is submissive, looks over service, knows her job. Cute natural nails last tour. Pussy was very tight to start so I let her set the pace, no problem at all thereafter. Maybe 90-95 pounds. Important: Ticklish around neck, shoulder okay.
Little sister look and vibe, natural looks. Limited English, cute accent. Natural boobs look big on a skinny petite girl. Looks innocent but dtf, good pussy. If you prefer young and cute, she is high A-Tier. Opposite of mature and sexy. Aka Baby Minami J / Nakamura and many other names.
What kind of sister? Originally Posted by Download X
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Last year, I found out the informal cutoff of little sister versus big sister in Japan. One jgirl I know in Japan was asked to switch shops to another. Both shops are legit businesses owned by the same umbrella corp, but she recently turned 26. So they made her switch from the little sister concept shop (ages 20-25) to the big sister concept shop (ages 26-30). She is considered a big sister now. On the upside, this proves the shop isn't lying with B+S.
The Only Way To Lower Prices
Lately, there have been several price drops on upcharge or base rate. This tends to happen more when there are Triangle girls around, and all you have to do is point them out. You could call them Value or Budget girls because many people report getting more while paying less. So even if they're not your type, as long as someone else likes them and is happily repeating them that will put pricing pressure on the competition.
There is no other way to lower prices than to point out the best Value girls. Budget guys will switch from overpriced girls to underpriced girls with intel. We can't force it, because there are always guys who just want the best girl and don't mind the price. It makes sense for them to evaluate girls differently. Each person would efficiently does what makes them happiest.
The solution means broadly pointing out the best Value girl for Looks, for Service, for Spinners, for Tits, or whatever criteria. It's not enough to just point out a girl you or I like, there has to be enough to go around where most people can get what they want. It takes teamwork. Nothing more needs to be done than accurate intel, it fixes itself.
Age vs Hotness
This link illustrates Age vs Hotness. 18 year old Iu versus 32 year old Iu:
https://www.instagram.com/reels/DWnFEXiE3hp/ You and I, Iu
About 25% of kgirls are hotter when they turn pre-MILF than as HYA, so this is just one example. It's why I rate HYA through MILFs on one scale of hotness since you can't tell Hotness from Age even though there is an obvious correlation. For girls in the top 25% of Looks, it works out to be about 45% of girls in 20s, 30% of girls in 30s, and 15% of girls in 40s. There are way more 40s kgirls than 20s kgirls, so the math works out to 25% when you pick those girls out. There are not a lot of ugly girls at korgs, but what few of them are of all age groups. Some of them are awesome service, some of them not. This is what I mean when I say Age is not the same as Looks.
While 32 year old Iu is hotter, HYA Vibe Hunters would probably still enjoy 18 year old Iu in person. The Haven factor. It is the Little Sister vibe that Baby Minami J and Lizza also had. The concept is official and Iu is listed right here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation%27s_Little_Sister
To some guys, it means nothing. To other guys, it's everything. So I try to say it when I see it.
Well, both versions of Iu would be gatekept as hard. But it turns out, it just takes one Gate Smasher to share the good news. Someone else will then review too until the intel snowballs and it becomes pretty obvious how the girl really is.
Excerpted
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7597066 What kind of sister?
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7578883 LA Spinners
Attached is Lani's new ad to help you confirm the right listing. Other than being young, Asian, and skinny, Lani does not look like her ad.
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04-29-26 21:13 #102
Ng, Stella, and Angel are in OC. They are all hot. Ng is the same Legend from LA years ago. Stella is the same Legend from LA. Note that Angel is a different girl than FA Ms Angel. This Angel is SBC Angel. Guys be driving to OC to see them, so I try to wait for mid-tour for the initial rush to die down. Some info:
CAKD Ng - High looks and high service, especially great attitude. Mature DDG beauty, C or D tits, 5'6", white skin, good face and body, service oriented. Very popular.
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7598986 Ng Meta Review
CAKD Stella - High looks and high service. White skin, tall, curvy, full figure, great tits and ass, 30s, skinny. Good dfk, good rimming, has a routine. Good English. GFE only. Resembles Seolhyun from Aoa.
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/att...5&d=1777416372 Stella
Angel - Very beautiful, 5'6, skinny with C or D tits, white skin, perfectly proportioned like a model. Face is good, some would say DDG. Good pussy. Pussy looks beautiful and is well trimmed. Submissive, somewhat innocent, typical HYA skills. Good English for a kgirl - if you speak clearly and simply then no problem. Important: You have to bring the service. Best to shower alone, seduce, and gradually coach. The first line of the Lizza guide is to make the girl feel safe and comfortable. Improves on repeats as she gets to know you. There's no simple shortcut. Pricing is for rich guys, it is a certain kind of luxury.
https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/angel Angel
The reason HYA Hunters bring the service is the girls are hot. But if that sounds like too much work, it's not for you. Menu: 600 hr, 200 bb, 100 msog, CIM, RIM. Service depends on compatability, as described in this guide:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7545932 Premium Girls Guide
The Legend of Mount Everest
One person remarked on post-nut clarity, admitting the girls were at least very hot. He just wondered why he paid so much. I told him you could pay 400-800 to be dropped off at the top of Mount Everest and you'll go "That's it?"
The idea of reaching the top of the mountain used to seem completely impossible after all. It's not for everyone. You'll have to figure it out.
Jenny K
Jenny K (KDC) - Has both looks and service. Very good attitude, good skills, dtf, spinner. 5'1", usually in a very short skirt and pleaser heels, C or D MMs, about 30 or early 30s, baby face, petite with good figure. Nice ass, very round tits, soft nipples that point. Ad photo is very close and based on her with light PS. Seems to love it all.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/KgirlDream KDC
KDC has brought over many great girls and kept them at a good price imo. Some other girls I recognize in OC:
Ribbon - 5'2", petite body, B natural, about 30, normal skinny, slight tan, young with natural looks. Submissive, normal skills for HYA. No FIV but DATY okay. She is submissive, has some skills and service. It is gentle and nice. Pussy pretty good. She offers Tiana style service which I actually prefer. Would repeat.
Lily K aka Remi - She has fantastic D MM tits, large face, tanned, body over face. She has a good body including some ass. Maybe 30, very nice smile. Ymmv vibe. Lily K has a "Southeast Asian" type face aka SEA, so it is up to taste. People generally agree she has a great body.
Lily K has a "Southeast Asian" type face aka SEA, so it is up to taste. People generally agree she has a great body.
SEA - A "Southeast Asian face" (SEA) can include details like a broad face, high cheekbones, broad nose, darker skin, etc..
Prada - Tall, about 5'7", white skin, good normal sized tits, well proportioned not fat or skinny. 30s, good looks, good ass. She warms up slow - she has a mellow vibe but really gets into it during the action. Gets pretty naughty over time, loves to watch the action in the mirror sometimes. Good skill, DTF, enjoys sex. Good massage. Pussy is especially good. She tried to rim me but I stopped her in time. She is good looking enough to cure my ED. Decent English, not for deep conversation but no problem communicating. Ad has PS as usual but it's her and gives a good idea on her tall body.
I'll emphasize her service starts slow and warms up. It is not over the top and aggressive. This is a key spec to predict which guys will like or not like. Baby Winter is the same way. Specs are things people tend to agree on (ex: height, boob shape, vibe) but one guy loves and the other guy hates. So the real intel is the spec, whether someone liked it is mainly preference. Thick and height are the best example of a Spec with opposite opinions.
The Royal Treatment
Yoshiwara did strike me as a hidden gem, despite everyone having talked of it. Always pick a girl on intel - certain girls focus on foreigners and know how to take care of them. It's also a situation where the very best girls are obvious and pointed out by many. All licensed and legal in Japan. The popular ones should be booked weeks or months ahead. I found 3 weeks to be the sweet spot, to give me planning flexibility. Originally Posted by OneInchPumper
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https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7596300 Legend of SS-Tier
It is the Royal Treatment at Etoile. Intel means consistent wins in Japan. It's the girl, not just the shop. The girl I picked has hundreds of reviews and guys flying in from every continent to see her. If you don't need fs, the Royal Treatment just requires you to buy a $100 VIP seat:
Rokusan Angels Roppongi
When you go up, the girls shoot you with their finger guns saying 'Dokun' (alternately Dokan). The cheering is from the audience, they are fully foreigner friendly and it's quite wholesome. Originally Posted by Download X
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In the pre-show btw, one girl hopped on my table (this is normal) and waved to the guy next to me then chatted with him. He was obviously her regular. She then waved goodbye saying see you after for dinner. This is how guys get hooked btw, if a guy seems right to a girl she will OTC him. OTC is very common and in the open in Japan. The one and only warning is not to do it with hostesses or oppai pub girls. It's why I wrote The Professionals PSA.
They encourage you to take pictures and post to social media. The only restriction is no upskirts and a few scenes that are topless. My three favorite girls were Rokusan Remi, Anzu, and Mugi. Mugi is pre-MILF but amazing Vibe. Some jgirls like Mugi just know to perform when you point a camera at them:
https://www.instagram.com/reels/DXO80p2D4Bd/ Mugi singing
https://www.instagram.com/kyosuke_bu...l/DXmFGt6E1OB/ Mugi vibe
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOdlTDVE5v6/ Anzu POV
https://www.instagram.com/p/DPwYYurEr1v/ Anzu DDG body
https://www.instagram.com/remi_burlesque/ Remi IG
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7434466 Fly to Japan Club
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3062876 Japan DH Guide
If you must, you can use Delivery Health and meet JAV girls in Japan too. Most JAV girls are too expensive for me. But, THC Hasumi and THC Imaru are both well-priced HYAs. Hasumi is S-Tier, 23 years old:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7599644 THC Hasumi
THC Hasumi - Very beautiful S-Tier Looks. Early 20s, very tall at 170cm, top tier cute young face, it is adorable. B cup natural, tanned, beautiful proportions, very nice smile. Body feels great, like a younger Sherry K / SBC Hanna. Good skills and service for HYA, good eye contact on bbbj for video. Former JAV, good attitude and knows her job. She looks as good as her debut AV at 20 years old, 23 now.
https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2545 THC Hasumi
$277 for 90 mins base rate, and you tip her maybe $125 if you want extras. She offers regular secret menu, extra secret menu, and even the super secret menu. The first two are secret because they can't advertise it, so the booker will swear it's not offered. The same way at City of Industry strip clubs they don't advertise fs but it is a nonstop fuck fest there. The third option is video and since she is JAV it's not secret in her case (nothing you film could be as HQ as her JAV). They can advertise that so ask the booker.
Secret menus are technically ymmv but if you follow the Lizza guide with good hygene / manners you will win. In her case video is listed officially on the site at 15k ($94) for video. Video in Japan is not a big deal, just remember legally it is for private use only. If you posted anywhere you would be liable for privacy laws both Japan and US. People ruin a good thing so I focus on reviewing JAV girls.
If you hopped on a plane tomorrow and landed Friday May 1, you could book her after checking in. My record is a girl showing up 10 minutes after checkin. DH (Delivery Health) is 100% legal in Japan, you are paying for shower, kissing, bbbj all of which are legal to sell and advertise. For some girls, they even advertise anal. Dick in pussy is the only thing that falls under secret.
Hasumi says she prefers foreigners, they visit Japan to have fun and bring good vibes. Whereas locals are stressed from work and order girls so they can relieve stress, often bad vibes.
Hinata at Etoile is the same.
What I'll link to is an old dating guide that links to related topics. It is skewed to HYA type girls aged 20-29, mainly dating younger jgirls. The first guide is for normal guys, the second/third guide is for S-Tier guys whether super handsome or super rich: Originally Posted by LemonPepper
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7298721 Know the motivations
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7309251 Dating jgirls
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7309291 We love the rich guys
S-Tier guys (very handsome or very rich) are actually in the most danger. But they're gonna do their thing so might as well give some tips. I wouldn't even recommend it. But if you have to..
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7298968 1 out of 3 was amazing
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7298742 OTC
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7300047 OTC
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7206827 Keep a date short
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...25#post7296325 We all know the red flags
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...29#post7141129 You can't trust 80% of girls
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7298938 Do not date Vote #2
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7299151 Do not date Vote #3
The problem with S-Tier rich is they eventually crash and burn feeling worthless despite offering so much. He realizes some S-Tier handsome guy gets what he didn't get, or there is another whale she switched to. The handsome guy also feels worthless when he hears about what the whales could do since they get priority. It's almost better being 3rd place. No pressure, she doesn't even ask you for too much cuz you'll leave.
What he paid for
There is a whale I don't know, who took my ATF out. I'm not a selfish person, so I'm happy for him and her. If only I could be young again like him living his dream. So I wish them the best.
Sometimes, the whale is later disappointed, and it's the problem of expectations. He got what he paid for, but was hoping for more long-term. Implied stuff. When he didnt get that, he was of course upset.
Were I his friend, I could have warned him about the final result. But would it have made him any happier? At best, he would have missed out from not even trying. To me, he got something very nice just expensive. No one ever got as much of her as him. He won. But all he's left with are happy memories of her and nothing more. I hope he can accept that.
One girl in particular will never marry, never have children. She could grant him every other wish. An S-Tier genie. But that's not enough of course. I don't think it was a bad thing that he met her. But mixed feelings are common.
Janie K in LA
If any of you love Monet / Janie K, she is in LA. It's possible she'll close her tour LA and not be back to OC, so it's a situation where I should I mention this here for her fans in case it's the last chance. Below I'll list 5 reviews of Janie K. They are all positive, but that's just because we clearly warned she is HYA and thick. So only the thick lovers showed up and reviewed. Guys who would hate her never saw her in the first place - we scared them off! That is the Intel Paradox. When you have accurate intel of all pros and cons, follow-up reviews strongly skew positive.
Janie K - 5'3", big ass, C or D MMs, soft puffy nipples, body feels great, top tier pussy. Enjoys sex, submissive with good feedback. Face is GND cute. Pussy is especially good. Her ass is not far from Daisy L, it's big. Face is similar to ad with PS. Good shower service routine if she uses her hands on you.
Janie K is young and curvy. Her hands are very good. So do not rush Janie's shower, let her work on you with those hands in the shower. You can spend a while there if you prefer.
We All Have a Type
For LA, we described her as best as we can by forwarding "day one" intel:
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7595574 Janie K (me)
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7596021 Janie K (MisterD)
There are some guys who looooove thick. There are also other guys don't mind thick and just want to see new HYA. Originally Posted by Download X
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https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7597977 Janie K
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7598198 Janie K
https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sho...=1#post7599709 Janie K
There is a bit of nostalgia, comparing her favorably with thick ATFs from the past. Ranking her not far behind girls they considered perfect. And since there aren't many HYA who are thick, they could go straight for Janie. I learned a bit about other thick girls that I missed out on, so I feel like I got good intel out of it.
I'll attach no-filter pics of Remi and Mugi I took myself. Rokusan girls are social media friendly and semi-celebrities, so none of them bother with filters on social media. I'll also attach a Stella ad photo, with a Thanos meme showing her Balanced appeal. Lily K meme too. memes are just for laughs don't take them too seriously. Next is a Venn Diagram for guys who lean Looks. It's why most people don't understand Premium Hunters, and they won't understand most people either. So just do your thing and be happy.
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04-26-26 16:33 #101LMAO $1500/ month? Is this a joke? I make that in a hour. Originally Posted by PewpHead
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04-26-26 13:00 #100
Otc
Seeing a girl at work is a fair transaction at the market price. Both sides are going outside of that because they want something more.
So the girl is either going to want an actual relationship, or just to get more money for less work.
So if she starts asking for money, that means she doesn't like you or respect you, in direct proportion to how much she's asking for.
From my perspective, if the chick likes me, she should be willing to do more for less.
I've number closed some girls. One of them was Lauryn. She was going hot and heavy for a few weeks, then she called me the wrong name & I was just like LOL. We met up once outside and she didn't wear makeup. It's crazy how much makeup & the dark lighting can turn mids into hotties.
In other cases I've had girls who planned to go UTR essentially add me to their roster. Their prices when they go UTR go up, not down. I've never seen one for this reason, but you can bet their service and effort go down as well since they don't need to consider reviews anymore.
These women burned out all their pair bonding a long time ago, have very transactional minds, & will remain transactional probably for life. I had this chick who was super into me and groomed me for potential husband material. After she went back to Korea she met an American guy there & he married her. They had an explicit deal that he'd pay her $1,500/ mo allowance. This was pre covid so 1 hr was probably $250 back then. And she was getting a green card. Well after they married for a few years, he said he couldn't afford the $1,500 & said he'd have to reduce it to $500. Mind you he's literally paying all her bills anyway. Her response was to immediately want a divorce. She contacted me and we started fucking. She tried to branch swing from him to me. But the 1st time she came over, she didn't wear makeup & was honestly mid. Amazing tits, though. So I was like "what, you don't wear makeup anymore?" and the next time she came over she put it on LOL. She was wanting me to take over the $1,500/ mo. And BTW this was, out of all the girls I'd seen, the sweetest, cutest, seeming one.
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04-25-26 14:21 #99This post should be framed. A work of art. Originally Posted by DownloadX
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04-25-26 07:07 #98Yes, if it's gotta happen best to be transactional per visit. No misunderstanding there. In hindsight, you either wish you set a tighter limit or just spent the money on appointments with her. With appointments, you are free to leave and she can't even expect to see you ever again. Some guys have trouble saying no to women, and that's the way to do it. Originally Posted by OneInchPumper
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If a girl seems overly eager or seems to be doing things for free, you are in danger. Just wait for it. Some girls are so good you can't even think of a way to say no after what they did for you first.
The Legend of SS-Tier Originally Posted by Download X
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I'm going to leave a review for a jgirl with SS-Tier Service, the only one. Hinata at Etoile in Yoshiwara Japan. I couldn't edit it down any shorter without clearly explaining why she is SS. It's not just what she did below, but she had top tier Attitude and Vibe too. Basically Hinata is a professional who studied to do this and has done this a lot, and she is also practically foreigner only in customer preference. It is the Royal Treatment style of service. There are many other styles of service which could in theory match her, so it's not like a kgirl couldn't do it. I have met a handful of girls who were arguably low SS-Tier Service but this one is as clear-cut as it gets.
I'm sorry this review is so long, but it's a one-time thing to calibrate Service ratings. I don't plan to review Service again.
Hinata @ Etoile Description
Hinata at Etoile (Yoshiwara, Japan) - A+ Tier Looks, SS Tier Service. Petite, 5'0", very skinny, top tier DDD tits MMs, 30s pre-MILF, pure white skin, DDG body. Her tits are beautiful and perfect shaped, they look proportionally way bigger than even Nali. Body is top tier and similar shape to MH Cherry but shorter. It is very good and skinny proportions head to toe. Her mouth is better than pussy. It is lay back and relax service from beginning to end. Ticklish on knees and bottom of feet, I would just let her take the lead the whole two hours. Her focus is on very long cock worship through every technique possible, it was 80% mouth 10% pussy 10% hand. Non-stop action from one course to the next, I got 110 minutes of action in a 120 minute session. Head to toe worship. She has no judgement just acceptance.
She is a clever girl with a dirty mind, and she learned to speak exactly enough English to serve foreigners. She understands what men want. She is unusal in Japan for being practically foreigner only - she prefers them over locals. Her standard course is 2 hours, do not book 1 hour even if you normally would. You more or less don't have to do anything for the 2 hours of service. Her service helped me learn more about myself. See extended notes for what kind of service I got.
Tips
Show up showered and smelling right, if you are clean she will skip the shower and get right to it same as Nali. Normally I am picking girls for Looks, but this is a girl I would pick for Service.
Do not bring any service. Let her lead the way and you'll get action beginning to end. She cycled me through 60 different sex acts, 40 I have never experienced before even with experienced kgirls. So it is a unique experience in that sense, and she is a a very qualified Yoshiwara-style soapland provider. She is an outlier at soapland. Other soapland girls were A through C Tier Service, not even an S.
This is a licensed shop in Japan, 100% legal. Show up early and tell the staff you have an appointment with Hinata at X time. You can then wait in the waiting room with a drink of your choice. You pay in advance. If you wish to use the restroom, now is the time. Afterwards, they can send you to the best station with a free shuttle. Mine was 15 minutes away since it had a direct train to my hotel.
To reach the soapland, you can use google maps to reach Asakusa-Gochome station or Yoshiwara-Omon station. Or type in 4-18-2 Senzoku, Taito-ku, Tokyo. It is in Asakusa.
How to Book
To book her, you look up her profile on the Etoile website and scroll through her blog until you find her LINE. Or X. Most people book months in advance to get the spot they want, but if you are flexible then 2-4 weeks in advance. She is very popular. There is no gaijin tax, it is 83k for 2 hours ($523). Do not try to book her through her shop.
https://www.y-etoile.jp/sp/profile.php?id=hinata Hinata
https://www.y-etoile.jp/sp/system.php Access Map
By the way, if you need bigger tits consider Milk who is at the same shop. I'm not even a Tits guy but as a Variety Hunter I would. No US surgeon will make MMs this big:
https://www.y-etoile.jp/sp/profile.php?id=mllk Etoile Milk
If you don't want service spoilers, skip the section below. It is long and detailed, because it's the clearest way to explain why she is SS-Tier Service. The next most similar girl is MH Cherry, who also works in Japan and can also suck cock nonstop for hours. You can say Hinata is a more experienced pre-MILF version of MH Cherry, the two girls have similar figures and professional level service.
Service Description
Many of the things she did, are best done in a soapland setting with a mat or bath. She did all these things very well:
When I first met her, she grabbed my dick right away and had a very good attitude.
Then her next move was to kiss me, seconds after had just met. It is a short walk to the room but she still had her hand on my dick with my hand in her other hand.
We were kissing again before entering the room.
After I got in room with her and she is touching my body, kissing, undressing me down to boxers. She doesn't skip a beat.
After greetings, she checked the survey she sent me on LINE a week ago to see what I wrote. She summed up what kind of action I wanted and I replied "Yes".
I was in just boxers now and she reached in again to take my cock, playing with it as we talked. She asked me about myself, and she is clever enough to make puns about where I went. I joined in with puns too but she would up it by turning it into a dirty joke. She has a very dirty mind. She proudly says the only English / Chinese words she knows are dirty words.
During this time I touched her boobs and kissed her body as we chatted, with my cock getting stroked by her. Her hands are very good.
She had me lay down in bed and started with some kissing.
Then she started some nipple licking.
Next she hung her ridiculous huge round tits over me as I licked and sucked on them. They are the best tits I've ever seen or touched, similar level to MH Cherry but a bit bigger and rounder.
We kissed again, and then she suffocated me with her tits. She watches my reaction for signs of life.
We switched to 69 and she cleaned and lubed my cock, working it with hand and mouth as she cleaned. Her skill is very good. She said I smelled very nice, so I did not shower / bathe at her shop first like other soapgirls did. This gave us extra time to play.
She started sucking and stroking my cock, varying her technique different ways with hand, mouth, tongue. It was a dozen different ways while we were in 69.
She turned around to get on her knees for more sucking, again with different techniques hand, mouth, tongue.
She has a nice tongue and would stroke my cock with her hands as she licked my dick. It is nice to watch.
Next she sucked me with just her mouth as she rubbed my nipples with hands.
She is flexible and adjusted her position while still sucking, with her feet beside my head. I stroked her gently, she is about as skinny as MH Cherry. Different positions like this change the feel of the BBBJ, and she varied the sucking pattern as well.
She then switched to a harder and faster sucking motion up and down. This was probably to get my dick ready for fucking next.
This was 30 minutes of BBBJ on the bed so far, and the action would continue another 30 minutes until our first break. There was a huge variety of nonstop technique she used on me, and she never did the same thing twice.
Up to this point I was laid back, I did not have to move an inch. I was free to use my mouth and hands on her as she did her thing, or not.
Her current position was leaning over me, so she leaned forward more and stuck my dick in, riding it. It is bb, but it's up to her.
She started riding my dick various ways, I didn't have to do anything. I didn't want to interrupt just yet and see how far lay back service can get. It was impressive as she cycled through different ways just to ride me, adjusting her legs, body, arms, and rhythm.
In one of the positions, I could suck on her boobs. Other times I could kiss her. Other times I stroke her legs. Sometimes, she put her feet on me.
She leaned over me to ride me, and with body language I had her lean over me even more as I took over and rode her my way. It is one of the few times I brought any service.
She kept riding me more as I reached over to feel my bare cock sliding in and out of her. Her pussy is very good and keeps me hard the whole time.
She turned around and rode reverse cowgirl. This room is fully lit, so you can see everything.
She then suddenly pulled out and kept sucking my dick. My dick has been in her mouth pussy and hands for 45 continuous minutes now.
She continued more techniques I won't bother to write out, but I remember eventually she ended up sucking my toes. As she did this, she was rubbing my nipples with her own toes. It was a surreal entanglement.
This head to toe service continued until I asked for a break halfway. My dick never left her body the whole time. I love variety so for me I'm curious about mat play.
During this break, she started the bath and asked me what I'the like to drink. There is a menu, and she calls in the order by phone. The drink soon arrived with straws, and she shot her straw cover at me playfully.
She then invited me to do the same to her, and when I was ready to blow she turned so it would hit her ass. It shot hard and made a sound bouncing off. She has a beautiful playful laugh, it is the similar to the laugh MH Cherry and Baby Sweet have. The top tier pros in Japan have all learned some version of this laugh BTW. So if you ever hear it, the girl is a pro.
We did some mat play next, but I'll skip this part so it isn't written out too long. You can get a general idea reading the second mat play description later.
Hinata then had me enter bath, which was overflowing already. So when I entered it, it overflowed more and went into the water vents outside. The whole soapland room is set up with generous water vents.
She got in too and using the bouyancy of the bath, and she had me lifted in her lap. I am now helpless and in her control.
She worked on my cock with her mouth in various ways. Finally, I recognized some of the techniques she used earlier but with me curled up in her lap. She can go through a lot of acts before you finally see one again.
She again changed positions several times for a different effect and sucking pattern. Some of these are variants of the bed sucking, but the bath bouyancy and me in her lap this time changes how they feel.
She is very flexible, and had her feet on my chest stroking me. She is always working on me all over.
She started using both hands combined with mouth for full cock immersion, something Crystal does well.
She sucked up and down harder in a different technique, her eyes looking at me a long time now. When I stared back into her beautiful eyes, she winked at me.
She then lubed my dick and ran it between her huge tits.
She had me stand up in the bath and then sit down on the edge of the bath, laying back into a towell / pillow already set up for this unusual position. She sucked me in this position.
She started balls licking in this position, then ball sucking. Very thorough.
She had me sit up, and she turned around and rode my cock.
She had me then stand and we fucked standing this way. It was the second time I brought any service.
She adjusted the position as we kept fucking different ways.
We transitioned to 2nd mat play, and she had me lay on the mat. 1st mat play was normal warm temperature gel, but this time she mixed some hot gel instead.
Her hands are full of gel, and she asked for help to move a strand of hair aside since she can't touch it. This is the third time I brought any service, for just a moment.
Her hair, nails, and style are wonderful. Her body is the same level as MH Cherry at S-Tier. Face is 30's pre-MILF, beautiful around A-. Combined together, A+ Looks overall.
She finished mixing the gel with her arms, and she painted me with it like an artist as I lay on the mat. I watched the streaks of gel flatten out and spread all over me. It was an other worldly experience and new feeling.
She then dropped an even coat of gel across her whole chest in one motion with her arms. I've never seen it before. Her body and DD white tits glistened and shimmered from the light, the effect you get with soapy water.
Mat play is hard to describe, but we are playfully playing and wrestling and doing dirty things in many positions you can't easily get into on a bed.
The gel is slippery and feels great when you rub two bodies this way. It is especially nice to rub you hands across her nipples, you really feel them and there is almost no friction so you can do it a lot. My hands, arms, and legs went past many combinations of her body parts, and hers over mine too. It is something you cannot expereince without a gel or mat, or someone skilled to help guide you.
Sometimes, she got me on top of her or in some other position where I was careful not to crush her with my body. We had built up trust over the past hour and a half.
As she was running her tongue all over my body, she ran it over my asshole a few times to test out my comfort level. I normally don't allow rimming but we had built up a lot of trust so no problem.
She could see it was no problem, so rimmed me some more. My body was hers to toy with, it is role reversal for a HYA Hunter.
We got into 69 and from this view and how the room was lit I could see her parts very well. She has a beautiful pussy. Not every beautiful woman does. I tasted it and it was still delicious too.
She started sucking me harder and faster to prepare me for more sex.
We started fucking to finish things up. At no point was I ever in missionary, because that would be too much service for the guy to bring. The rest is more normal play where I could take over more. I'm glad I didn't interrupt her for 105 minutes other than for a drink.
There is a phone ring to signal that it's time to wrap up, but you get about 5 more minutes of action after the first ring. We then cleaned up and chatted a bit. She gave me a coupon for next time. When I put it in my shirt pocket, she made sure I folded it "so others won't see" on the train. Attention to detail.
I've done mat play, soapland, and some of these things with other girls a few times, but nothing was ever in the same realm as this. Even in Japan, this is very high level for soapland. There is a big gap to the next best soapland experience I've had.
Attached is her ad, keep in mind is is full make up but that her figure and face. She is pre-MILF with a DDG body.
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04-24-26 13:35 #97Download X. Great tips here! Originally Posted by DownloadX
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I do really enjoy my OTC but it really isn't for the weak willed or the type of people to continuing to throw money away if they can't afford it. As you mentioned it really leads to Doom. All of my long term OTC have ended the same way and it is with them requesting more and more money. Things to note is that these girls profession is to show you their good side and seduce. There will always be a sob story and a good reason they will give you to give them more money. They are very good at manipulating feelings. One thing I remind my self is that the relationships I have built with ATF's and taken out on OTC's is not real. I know people who have gotten hurt and burned because they thought things were real but things ended because they couldn't provide enough to satisfy the girls needs. Hell, I know people that got used for a green card and left devastated. Like Download X said no matter how much money you have it will never be enough for them. If an OTC becomes unfavorable in my side in terms of what I do for them and money I throw out vs what I get in return then I just cut them off cold turkey and just like Ariana Grande says "thank you, next next".
Happy Hunting!
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