Massage Parlor Reports

[Harryyy]

Long time lurker, infrequent poster.

After hh rates in Seattle have mostly jumped to 50, are there any places for actual good massages plus extras for 40+40 (HJ) or 40+60/80 (BJ)? I def enjoy reading the Jm and Q adventures, but sometimes I'm just looking to relax get a good massage and lie back.

I'd post and share info but tbh I haven't had any experiences worth sharing with the mongering crew.

[StuntDriver]

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/bot...MJ6U2E5TSVP6U/#.

The Bothell Police Department (BPD) is detailing some of the evidence discovered during a raid of five massage parlors in Downtown Bothell.

It comes as the department faces new criticism over the decision to conduct the raids from advocates who have called the action "discriminatory. ".

Bothell Police Captain of Investigations Mike Johnson says multiple of these businesses were found with new and used condoms, as well as a large amount of lubricant.

"When they hit the rooms with the alternate light source, there was an incredible amount of human bodily fluid around the establishment," Johnson said.

In one case, police were met at the door of one of the establishments by a female worker who was nude. In this location, law enforcement officers learned they had just interrupted a sex act in progress.

"We spoke to the male participant who, post-Miranda (Rights), admitted that he was engaged in that after agreeing to money," Johnson said. "And the female also agreed that that's what had happened. ".

In another location, officers were met by a female worker in lingerie.

It is not clear at which parlors the specific evidence was discovered. It is also not clear if the parlors are connected in any way.

The parlors were initially closed last week due to fire code violations, separate from the investigation into prostitution and human trafficking. Because the fire department was on scene during the raids, the violations were observed, and stop-work notices were placed.

The new details were released Monday after a group of advocates for Asian massage workers spoke out against the raids, claiming the action was rooted in anti-Asian discrimination.

The group of advocates is not directly linked with the businesses that were shut down, but said they had attempted outreach and made contact with some of the workers.

"You're patting your own back for solving fabricated issues based on your own sexist, racist ideas, and Asian massage workers are paying the price," said an organizer named Lee, who said they were reading a statement on behalf of the International Migrants Alliance.

The organizers said the police raids make it more dangerous for migrant workers who might be employed in these businesses, and also criticized the licensing process that they said discriminates against Asian workers.

One organizer alleged "egregious acts of police misconduct" in the execution of the search warrants in Bothell, specifically claiming there was no reading of Miranda rights.

KIRO 7 asked Bothell Police about this. Johnson said some individuals weren't read these rights because they weren't being investigated for criminal activity.

"Miranda's trigger when we have you in custody, detained, and we're talking to you about criminal activity," he said. "If you're a witness, or we're thinking that you might be a victim of trafficking or some other exploitation-type crime, we're going to talk to you and treat you like a victim or a witness. ".

Johnson said the workers were given access to resources for victims as well. He added that the police department does not want to run operations like this on any business operating legitimately.

"In this particular instance, we had complaints, we had information," he said. "Multiple of the locations had all sorts of evidence indicating that there's a lot of sexual activity occurring in these places. ".

KIRO 7 spoke with a couple that runs two of the massage parlors, and they vehemently denied any wrongdoing.

"If you want to find or arrest any real criminal, or any human trafficking, or any prostitution, you can go to Epstein Island," said Li Wiezuo, who said his wife owns the two parlors.

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KING 5 said the wife (owner) was arrested on the 14th and released on the 15th.

Bothell massage parlor sting suspect released without charges as investigation continues

Bothell police defend massage parlor sting with graphic evidence as advocates call the raids anti-Asian violence.

BOTHELL, Wash. Bothell police confirmed one person was arrested following a sweep of five massage parlors last week, and that suspect was released the very next day.

The woman was booked into King County Jail on April 14 and released April 15. KING 5 is not naming her because she has not yet been charged. State records shows she owns two of the businesses that were targeted.

[StuntDriver]

I've been putting down the 200 (total with house) and not saying anything since the late 1990's when ET and Kings had young hotties.

And I do not understand how Shanghai and Best are still in business.

Yes the "drop 200" move works at the known FS spots. At Brisa, BJ, Shang, and Best, or Magnolia renton, that usually gets you.

45-minutes to an hour depending on busy level.

At Tokyo and the spot by subway that will usually get you 30 minutes of CFS without a lot of massage. JM will include TS and massage at the 200 usually.

But YMMV.

I'm mainly talking about the very YMMV shops or new to you shops.

The girls themselves have told me this "oil massage" vs "deep tissue" massage code.

Some places (like the ones often reviewed here) seem to operate in the open, but my advice is mainly for the quieter spots who often make sure a good massage is always part of the experience.

[BaryMcCochener]

Hi guys. I posted this other day on the Vancouver BC forum but didn't get any responses, so I thought I'd try again here.

My wife & I will be in Victoria and staying in the port area & also downtown Vancouver early next month. I'm looking for an AMP where we can get 2 private rooms so I can get a HJ and a good massage.

Any recommendations you have would be appreciated very much. Pricing for a 1. 5 hour massage plus what I can expect for a tip would likewise be appreciated too.

Thanks in advance. Goldminer.

Sorry, I did not see your post. Log onto Perb. Cc and search Victoria. That should get you what you're looking for.

[KrDoggy]

Tacoma and Everett boards too, depending on where you are. RM has all the locations and phone numbers.

Are you looking for one of us to be your personal ChatGPT and summarize?

Blue Jade (Burien), JM (on Bailey), Q Massage in Shoreline. You are welcome.

Anyway I can get any info on the FS places? Heading out that way soon and having a hard time vs my stomping grounding in NYC.

[Marko Ramius]

If want CFS, put down the house fee +150-200, ask for a "deep tissue massage" while pulling your hands in thrusting.

I've been putting down the 200 (total with house) and not saying anything since the late 1990's when ET and Kings had young hotties.

And I do not understand how Shanghai and Best are still in business.

[Jroddd1207]

The conveyor belt FS shops (Best, Shanghai, Brisa, Tokyo, etc) still seem to be full steam ahead, but the more quiet shops where YMMV are being way more cautious in the current market. The Bothell and FedWay raids and closures have the girls scared. So if you're visiting an L1/ L2+ store and want to maximize your chances: do not say anything sexual, criminal, etc.

If you want HJ happy finish, put down the house fee +40-50, ask for an "oil massage," and move your hand like you're about to roll dice.

If want CFS, put down the house fee +150-200, ask for a "deep tissue massage" while pulling your hands in thrusting.

If I sense a less than positive response, I might ask "is that enough?" But NEVER "how much for a (insert sexual request)?

You'll see your success rate increase.

TL; dr: The cautious girls are afraid they might be recorded and don't want any explicit conversation at all.

Anyway I can get any info on the FS places? Heading out that way soon and having a hard time vs my stomping grounding in NYC.

[Shogun Hua]

Word on the street is that the current line up is Lisa, Joey and new girl Yoyo. I've been informed that Yoyo is brand new, not the same one that worked in the area before (There was a Yoyo that worked at Shanghai and Best for a couple of months). The picture I got of Yoyo, she is young and beautiful. Slender body with A or B cups. Similar to Lulu. This was just a photo i got, so I cant say for sure that is 100% her or not. I'm just hoping that its true and maybe she will start May up North. Stay safe.

[GoldMinerLxv]

Hi guys. I posted this other day on the Vancouver BC forum but didn't get any responses, so I thought I'd try again here.

My wife & I will be in Victoria and staying in the port area & also downtown Vancouver early next month. I'm looking for an AMP where we can get 2 private rooms so I can get a HJ and a good massage.

Any recommendations you have would be appreciated very much. Pricing for a 1. 5 hour massage plus what I can expect for a tip would likewise be appreciated too.

Thanks in advance. Goldminer.

[Vulva Nut]

I speak just enough to make them laugh and go "waaaaa you're Chinese is good" to which I reply, in Chinese, "my mandarin is bad". Utilize your phone and make them laugh; it goes a long way.

You do speak and understand a bit. I asked bc your communication sounded spontaneous, unmediated--but I prob misread your comment that it was while pumping that she said "you're bullying me", etc, which I couldn't imagine her saying in English. And surely you were not on your phone at that moment... ha.
I think you just meant a post-action summary.

But yes phone/translate is a godsend, a golden bridge in these cases where their English is rudimentary, to connect, go deeper, be funny.
I've had that fun with Jenny myself in SoCal. A great provider-don't keep her up there too long!

[GeniusCasanova]

You must speak Mandarin or Cantonese?

I speak just enough to make them laugh and go "waaaaa you're Chinese is good" to which I reply, in Chinese, "my mandarin is bad". Utilize your phone and make them laugh; it goes a long way.

[Shogun Hua]

If a place is new to me, I usually do a bunch of research first. Make sure the place will offer what I want. I will usually enter and if the girl is attractive to me, I will hug her and grab her butt. I usually will just pay the house fee. I get on the table, naked face down, no towel, and get the massage. Typically they will begin to touch where the towel covers and that is a good sign. I may touch their legs as they walk by. Once we are much more familiar, I will make an offer when they ask about a regular tip. The forum I quoted has a ton of tips for newbies and veterans. Good luck and stay safe.

3d) Prove you are not LE - If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP - Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Use Provided "Purse" - Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

6) Bring your own condom - The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

7) Shower Etiquette - Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

9) Lose the Towel - If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

10) Become Aroused - Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

11) Wait to Flip Over - At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip" - The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (i.e. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.

I don't claim to be an expert. Feel free to add on your own tips and direct others from the City forums you post in to this section. Next time someone asks "any advice for visiting an AMP for the first time", you can point them here and hopefully others will share their tips and advice. I'm always looking for new tips too. I did this over a year ago in the old forum and thought I'd start a new thread here to help out everyone who goes to AMPs.

-USTraveller

[StuntDriver]

The conveyor belt FS shops (Best, Shanghai, Brisa, Tokyo, etc) still seem to be full steam ahead, but the more quiet shops where YMMV are being way more cautious in the current market. The Bothell and FedWay raids and closures have the girls scared. So if you're visiting an L1/ L2+ store and want to maximize your chances: do not say anything sexual, criminal, etc.

If you want HJ happy finish, put down the house fee +40-50, ask for an "oil massage," and move your hand like you're about to roll dice.

If want CFS, put down the house fee +150-200, ask for a "deep tissue massage" while pulling your hands in thrusting.

If I sense a less than positive response, I might ask "is that enough?" But NEVER "how much for a (insert sexual request)?

You'll see your success rate increase.

TL; dr: The cautious girls are afraid they might be recorded and don't want any explicit conversation at all.

[KrDoggy]

From all-star Jenny a smooth transition to hall-of-famer Chanel.

Just trying to remember, does anyone know where Chanel from JM / Tokyo is now? I think she changed the name she goes by and might be somewhere different now. She had the most amazing table shower service I've ever experienced.

[Vator2]

Never tried a table shower.

Thought it was time, Green Spa advertises a table shower. So!

Parking on the street was full, so I parked in there lot out back and the rear entry.

A nice Asian lady let me in, I asked if I could get a table shower and a massage, she led me to a room, I passed her $$, she smiled gave me a little kiss and said take clothes off.

She led me down a hall (naked) then down to the basement / dungeon were there is a very nice modern looking tub / table with a shower head on a hose.

A quick hose off and the some soap, lathered me up both sides no playing.

Back up to the room face down a very nice massage, she said her name was Cee Cee, or See See (spelling).

Guessing she was 40 yo 5' tall 140 lbs a little mommy belly with some very sensitive nipples.

She was fun and seemed to be vey Horney.

Good time had by all.