"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**Vader5** · 02-27-25 20:14

I have been on and off seeking arrangements on and off since 2018 and what's going on now is unprecedented. I've never seen it this bad. Yes I know GPS is rampant from all the guys that have ruined that, but GPS is not what I'm talking about here. The amount of endless texters, girls that ghost for no reason, girls that have no intention on meeting, girls that will be talking to you and just fall off the planet, etc. Is off the charts. I've seen how seeking has changed over the years, but it's a nightmare compared to just 6 mos to a year ago. What is going on out there? What are you guys experiencing? And I'm not talking about trying to land a 8-10. I'm just talking about the mid girls. Is there that much stiff competition out there now? Or is this all the result of simps? I know social media has changed the game dramatically, but I'm just comparing to 6 mos ago. Something changed.

**MSmith3034** · 02-27-25 12:33

Loren is real, but seemingly too shy (IMO) to pull the trigger to meet. I spent months with idle chat here and there, pleasantries, etc. She has the attention span of a gnat and thinks she is way hotter and more appealing than she is. She pops up with a new profile every few months and new photos. She's divorced with a kid and worst of all, a self-righteous attitude that's gotten worse from looking at her profile. I'd focus your time and efforts elsewhere, my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by PeterPan [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...f-807482c893d0

**FreudFro** · 02-27-25 10:47

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I simply don't believe that. Just because someone posts it?

It's not just "someone" writing it.

https://people.com/onlyfans-model-ma...lusive-8758383

This has been published by multiple magazines. Now, could she be bullshitting? Possibly. Maybe she should post her taxes.

**Peter Johnson** · 02-27-25 10:22

Originally Posted by AdmirerSecret [View Original Post]

I should buy a van with bed LOL.

I have an SUV that I already have set up for car camping, with a bed in the back. And I have limo tint on the back windows. It isn't super roomy, so some positions are limited, but it has worked on occasion and does save $100 vs hotel.

**Woodswoven2** · 02-26-25 23:46

Originally Posted by GiddenLade [View Original Post]

I've learned the hard way that no full body pic is usually a bad gamble. Not always, but more often than not. I try to resist the temptation of meeting a girl who doesn't include at least one full body pic. Even then there's the risk of it being an old outdated pic, but at least then you know there's a chance she's still slim.

Last woman I met w / out a full body pic, but really good headshots, had to weigh at least 180. That's more than a little too much when you weigh 160. Without fail, every woman I met without a full body shot was at least 20 lbs. Heavier than her pictures and usually much more. Bottom line--there's a reason women do not include a full body shot.

**FarFarAway** · 02-26-25 19:16

Originally Posted by FreudFro [View Original Post]

I read online that Sophie Rain made $43 M last year on Only Fans. She had one guy pay over over $5 M. One guy. $5 M. For what? I have no idea. Even if he was banging her hourly, that amount is hard to fathom.

So yeah, there are dudes that have a lot more "fuck you" money than I have and choose to spend it in ways I can not comprehend.

I simply don't believe that. Just because someone posts it?

**AdmirerSecret** · 02-26-25 19:04

Booking hotels has been expensive, what are otherways? Don't want to take babies home and also they don't host.

I should buy a van with bed LOL.

**AdmirerSecret** · 02-26-25 18:18

Booking hotels has been expensive, what are otherways? Don't want to take babies home and also they don't host.

I should buy a van with bed LOL.

**Pussymeister** · 02-26-25 18:09

Originally Posted by FreudFro [View Original Post]

I read online that Sophie Rain made $43 M last year on Only Fans. She had one guy pay over over $5 M. One guy. $5 M. For what? I have no idea. Even if he was banging her hourly, that amount is hard to fathom.

So yeah, there are dudes that have a lot more "fuck you" money than I have and choose to spend it in ways I can not comprehend.

"Read online. " Being online does not equate to truth. Its easier to post online than it is to scrawl something on the bathroom stall. Did Sophia Rain " show you the cashed check she wrote to the IRS for $15,000,000 in taxes due? Girls will throw out stupid numbers because in general they are stupid. Just keep negotiating and read the forum to get an idea of market prices.

**GoneForGood97** · 02-26-25 17:26

Originally Posted by PeterPan [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...f-807482c893d0

Don't waste your time, per her profile " if I put your number into my phone and it pops up green I will not be messaging you** aka she only wants to message people via iMessage so she can have your "real" info. I wouldn't even bother.

**2me4Looking2** · 02-26-25 14:21

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

Good info, and thanks for sharing. I wonder if that huggingface app is easy to install and use or do you have to compile the code or something like that?

No app is needed. You can use their hosted instances online. My links take you directly to the working projects I've tested and there are lots more on there. They do limit your CPU time per day, but signing up for a free account gets you more time. If you are feeling really industrious, it is possible to setup your own linux distro and run it locally yourself, but that's not needed.

**Peter Pan** · 02-26-25 12:56

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...f-807482c893d0

**FreudFro** · 02-26-25 12:04

Originally Posted by HardwareGuy [View Original Post]

She quoted me the same, how is that not really outrageous? I used to think the girls lied when they say the get paid "$1 k or more", now I'm wondering who is paying them that much?

So far my successful rebuttal has been, yes but how long did the arrangement last? No one pays that amount long term, and a few have understood that argument and changed their tune.

I read online that Sophie Rain made $43 M last year on Only Fans. She had one guy pay over over $5 M. One guy. $5 M. For what? I have no idea. Even if he was banging her hourly, that amount is hard to fathom.

So yeah, there are dudes that have a lot more "fuck you" money than I have and choose to spend it in ways I can not comprehend.

**Hardware Guy** · 02-26-25 11:55

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...7-342716cc4790

Noor

$1000 ppm. Not really outrageous like some of the other ones, but still out if my price range.

She quoted me the same, how is that not really outrageous? I used to think the girls lied when they say the get paid "$1 k or more", now I'm wondering who is paying them that much?

So far my successful rebuttal has been, yes but how long did the arrangement last? No one pays that amount long term, and a few have understood that argument and changed their tune.

**Peter Johnson** · 02-25-25 21:22

Originally Posted by 2me4Looking2 [View Original Post]

I've used Fawkes in the past to modify my pics on social media and that seemed to work for a while, but now I'm finding that isn't working and it's already caused a very significant headache for me. From reading, a lot of the AI models are now able to overcome Fawkes. It seems like using AI to modify your face so that you still basically look like you, but different enough to not allow facial recognition would be a better option. Finding something that works and isn't overly technical or expensive is a bit of a challenge, but there are some good options using huggingface.co

This one makes slight modifications, but is still the same person and from limited testing AI didn't recognize me anymore. Set the rescaling to something like 1000 and fidelity to 0
https://huggingface.co/spaces/sczhou/CodeFormer.

With this one you can upload multiple pictures of yourself and it creates a completely new person with similar characteristics. You can prompt with something like "Photo of man outside img"
https://huggingface.co/spaces/TencentARC/PhotoMaker-V2

If anyone has any other suggestions, please post them.

Good info, and thanks for sharing. I wonder if that huggingface app is easy to install and use or do you have to compile the code or something like that?