"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[SuperFlee]

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...c-d5d339657515

MysteriousGirlie.

Didn't really get scammer vibes, but more likely a low class high volume escort / stripper with no patience. Asked for a selfie after I acknowledged her profile said no additional pics. I made sure to tell her I'm just looking to confirm she's not a catfish. She immediately blocked.

I got same interaction from her and another profile messaged me out of the blue that had same exact wording: https://members.seeking.com/member/9...e-b56993c8e4e2.

The similarities in the two profiles was a little suspicious so I decided to pass.

[GoneForGood97]

Petiteyoga https://members.seeking.com/member/f...4-8dd7acd12d72.

Moved to text and quoted $5. PPM. Did not pursue.

Luna https://members.seeking.com/member/0...9-8e50c16c26ed.

Got her number but never responded once texted.

PoisonIvy https://members.seeking.com/member/b...5-7e99c620b2b1.

Stopped responding after requested to view private photos.

Petiteyoga has been discussed on the board some. Sounds like her ask has gone up from what I recall others saying.

Luna is confirmed GPS and not worth the price of admission based on reviews.

PoisonIvy was reviewed positively but is hard to nail down.

[GoneForGood97]

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...c-d5d339657515

MysteriousGirlie.

Didn't really get scammer vibes, but more likely a low class high volume escort / stripper with no patience. Asked for a selfie after I acknowledged her profile said no additional pics. I made sure to tell her I'm just looking to confirm she's not a catfish. She immediately blocked.

[TheAnswer4]

Petiteyoga https://members.seeking.com/member/f...4-8dd7acd12d72.

Moved to text and quoted $5. PPM. Did not pursue.

PrettyDiscreet1 https://members.seeking.com/member/3...d-c98e320a1c8b.

Reached out to me first on seeking (I'm always more wary of those). Moved to text, quoted $4. PPM, then stopped responding.

Annmariexoxox https://members.seeking.com/member/e...d-6c767dfec8a1.

Chatted some on Seeking. Stopped responding when asked to move to text.

Luna https://members.seeking.com/member/0...9-8e50c16c26ed.

Got her number but never responded once texted.

Fntiers https://members.seeking.com/member/a...2-dafafa7da835.

Chatted some on Seeking. Moved to text but stopped responding shortly after.

PoisonIvy https://members.seeking.com/member/b...5-7e99c620b2b1.

Stopped responding after requested to view private photos.

Stacybebe3 https://members.seeking.com/member/c...3-02db9d5b3a2b.

Moved to text but stopped responding shortly after.

Juicy1 https://members.seeking.com/member/b...9-6a2bff7973ed.

Asked for my number but never texted me.

AmberM https://members.seeking.com/member/e...8-a01e1a28644c.

Sent Snapchat in first message. Most likely scam. Did not engage.

[LouisHernandez]

Really hope he didn't pay 700 to a black SB in Atlanta. That's like paying for sand at the beach. She's a cutie, but there's a LOT of ebony options in Atlanta, many of which are cuter, for half that or less.

There's something to be said about the $200-$300 being the best experience. Girls wanting more that will fvck like dead fish more often than not. Of course YMMV.

[GoneForGood97]

For any of the high PPM ones, did you meet and if so, was it worth it?

Really hope he didn't pay 700 to a black SB in Atlanta. That's like paying for sand at the beach. She's a cutie, but there's a LOT of ebony options in Atlanta, many of which are cuter, for half that or less.

[Atlvoy]

You need to link to the profiles, not your messages. Click on their profile, THEN copy the address. Don't just right click on their message and copy link. We can't view your messages.

I've made a comment on the ones regarding the message. So hopefully the new post reflects that.

[GoneForGood97]

Has anyone seen the following?

If anyone would be so kind to share some Asians, I'd really appreciate it.

You need to link to the profiles, not your messages. Click on their profile, THEN copy the address. Don't just right click on their message and copy link. We can't view your messages.

[SuperFlee]

Has anyone seen the following?

https://members.seeking.com/messages...7-f3114bdda8f2

https://members.seeking.com/messages...a-aba035115951

Few reports:

https://members.seeking.com/messages...5-9a2ac150b9fe

Super petite in person, wanted 800 PPM but talked her to 350 PPM.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...0-ca35120b86f3

Has a little tummy, but overall sweet girl who'll do 200 PPM. Crazy pierced, was feeling wild and reliving my scene time LOL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...0-5962a213c23c

Insanely high PPM, but BBFS you name it, it's a bit awkward.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...0-f77107f07c7c

Really pretty and petite in person, wants 700 PPM.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...9-66fca3d48bbf

A bit chubbier from her photos, anywhere from 100-200 PPM.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...b-8bff0a9fbebe

Thicker, can host, pretty flakey. 200 PPM.

For any of the high PPM ones, did you meet and if so, was it worth it?

[Atlvoy]

The links seem to go to your messages? Or maybe they aren't still active? And thanks for the reports. Wish I had some positives to talk about!

Here is the link again:

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...6-25b6998aaa77

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...b-73c8669ff113

[People Pleasur]

Has anyone seen the following?

https://members.seeking.com/messages...7-f3114bdda8f2

https://members.seeking.com/messages...a-aba035115951

it.

The links seem to go to your messages? Or maybe they aren't still active? And thanks for the reports. Wish I had some positives to talk about!

[Atlvoy]

Has anyone seen the following?

https://members.seeking.com/messages...7-f3114bdda8f2

https://members.seeking.com/messages...a-aba035115951

Few reports:

https://members.seeking.com/messages...5-9a2ac150b9fe

Super petite in person, wanted 800 PPM but talked her to 350 PPM.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...0-ca35120b86f3

Has a little tummy, but overall sweet girl who'll do 200 PPM. Crazy pierced, was feeling wild and reliving my scene time LOL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...0-5962a213c23c

Insanely high PPM, but BBFS you name it, it's a bit awkward.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...0-f77107f07c7c

Really pretty and petite in person, wants 700 PPM.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...9-66fca3d48bbf

A bit chubbier from her photos, anywhere from 100-200 PPM.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...b-8bff0a9fbebe

Thicker, can host, pretty flakey. 200 PPM.

If anyone would be so kind to share some Asians, I'd really appreciate it.

[LouisHernandez]

Your SBs friend is almost certainly lying / exaggerating, or you found one of the few who are doing well. Don't underestimate just how much B. S people will say to justify their behavior, and of course there's the problematic "hustle" mentality which encourages people to "think / act like they're successful" and they will be, so they "fake it til they make it" and pretend their doing way better than they are because that will make it more likely they will succeed.

The average OF girl makes $180 a month: https://influencermarketinghub.com/glossary/onlyfans/.

Only 10% of people on OF make more than $1 K a month, and only .1% make more than $6 K a month: https://ashleyjohn1189.medium.com/wh...s-30631d964665.

So if you're messaging a 100 SBs a month, if ALL of them have OF (and of course not all of them bother, but IF you only message girls that use OF), only 10 of them will make $1 K a month, and only 1 of them make a living wage doing it.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: the numbers are so far into SDs favor there is NO reason for any SD to put up with GPS.

Well you have convinced me. All I have is some SBs word which is at best anecdotal. I do know the sugar market has gotten much harder since a few years ago and I'm looking for an explanation. I think it's a variety of factors, the biggest one being younger dudes playing the game (and I'm getting older too). I've also gotten a little pickier after being catfished by fatties one too many times. The hobby isn't cheap if you keep a ledger, so I'd rather close less SBs who are higher quality (younger, thinner), than more at lower quality. Plus I'm hyperfocused on the amateur UTRs which by definition are hard to find.

[GoneForGood97]

My proof is very recent. I hung out with a SB last month a few times and she said her roommate is making close to 10 K a month posting pics and videos banging her boyfriend once a week on OF. Now that's hardcore porn she's doing and most won't do that. But still, I have no reason to think she's lying or even exaggerating. But let's say she's off by 50%, that's still 5 K a month.

Regardless it's alot of work. She promotes her OF page on her IG. That's all I know. It is shocking to me there are that many losers out there paying to virtual masterbate.

The other thing is, the revenue isn't guaranteed. Simps will move on to the next hotgirl to jerk off to her videos and so forth. There has to be a ton of churn in this business.

Your SBs friend is almost certainly lying / exaggerating, or you found one of the few who are doing well. Don't underestimate just how much B. S people will say to justify their behavior, and of course there's the problematic "hustle" mentality which encourages people to "think / act like they're successful" and they will be, so they "fake it til they make it" and pretend their doing way better than they are because that will make it more likely they will succeed.

The average OF girl makes $180 a month: https://influencermarketinghub.com/glossary/onlyfans/.

Only 10% of people on OF make more than $1 K a month, and only .1% make more than $6 K a month: https://ashleyjohn1189.medium.com/wh...s-30631d964665.

So if you're messaging a 100 SBs a month, if ALL of them have OF (and of course not all of them bother, but IF you only message girls that use OF), only 10 of them will make $1 K a month, and only 1 of them make a living wage doing it.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: the numbers are so far into SDs favor there is NO reason for any SD to put up with GPS.

[LouisHernandez]

You know how a lot of kids today want to grow up and be Youtubers? And of course there are some youtubers that make a ton of money, but pursuing youtube is like deciding you want to be a rapper or rockstar for a living. A lot of people trying and failing, and only .0001% actually succeeding.

OF is the same way. 99.999% of the girls on that make barely enough to pay for a few coffees a week, even the ones that are very attractive. During the pandemic I think OF softened the hit a lot of SBs took when meets decreased, but for most of them it could never replace a 200-300 a week SD. I have no proof of this, just what a few of my SBs have told me when they started an OF. It helped a little, not a lot, and not enough to change their sugaring habits.

My proof is very recent. I hung out with a SB last month a few times and she said her roommate is making close to 10 K a month posting pics and videos banging her boyfriend once a week on OF. Now that's hardcore porn she's doing and most won't do that. But still, I have no reason to think she's lying or even exaggerating. But let's say she's off by 50%, that's still 5 K a month.

Regardless it's alot of work. She promotes her OF page on her IG. That's all I know. It is shocking to me there are that many losers out there paying to virtual masterbate.

The other thing is, the revenue isn't guaranteed. Simps will move on to the next hotgirl to jerk off to her videos and so forth. There has to be a ton of churn in this business.