Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

[Masiha1980]

Since beginning the SB / SD arena, I've made over 500 offers. I've only offered 250 or less a few times, at first from being a newb and not wanting to over pay, but eventually, from just throwing a flyer at an "average" looking girl. Turns out, I only met three of those. A 200 that started at 400 but forgot or got desperate. The other two countered with 300 and was what I thought a descent value at that price. None of those were better than average. Not only did the overwhelmimg number of others deny the offer, most never replied and the rest horse laughed at it before blocking me no matter how good or bad they looked. So I choose not to risk being blocked by a 9 just so I can drive down prices for everyone else. I wouldn't consider average / below average looking girls as being STG quality. But I would say that, if I'm looking for average / below average looking, I'll get on a dating app or go to the local bar. If I wouldn't f* them for free, why would I pay money. Turns out, the ones I want to f* are, with a very rare exception, 400 or more. I keep seeing guys b* about driving up prices, and stating what things are worth, but you are not lining up my girls. As mentioned earlier, we are not making the market, we are reacting to it. Once some of these pandemic rich daddies run out of money, youight see a change but these girls literally have hundreds of messages a day. Why would they need to take less..

Ore.

Totally agree with you here and you are right on target with your statements. So far I am talking to about 30+ girls from SA which I got it reactivated about a week ago. I am good looking 42 year old but anything below 400 for a 6+/10 gets immediately ignored or blocked. Rarely I found 200's and 300's but either they are on the heavier side or not even touching 4/10 mark. Before pandemic 200/300 was the average going rate. BrianPeters must be celebrity stud to get this low rate. Hahahaha.

My observation is the same as yours. Below are my noted points.

1. All the super fine ones are either scammers trying to sell you pictures and videos or they want a SD for long term on allowances but unwilling to take their panties down until they feel comfortable which means they get the sugar without doing anything from their side. I told them to fu*k off. It's a two way street.

2. Also noticed the 18,19 and 20 year old just want to talking online sugar daddy for his sugar but don't want to me and if they meet no intimacy. Same point as above.

3. 400 is the average for the average (6 or 7/10) ones and yes I've negotiated multiple shots, BBBJ, cim, rimjob and video shoot while suckin and fu*kin. Some ask for 500. Super fine ones ask for 800-1000 for all these services.

4. out of state girl contacting you is usually a scammer trying to sell online services. Like the real far out of state. The close ones travel frequently to charlotte.

5. some are very pushy. Quick message. Quick text. When can you meet. Let's meet today. How about now. These usually will do for 200-300.

6. some of them had their pictures from like 10 year back. I was like what the heck!!

Overall. I've found a lot of luck on SA. I was miserable when my account was flagged for solicitation because one mean WG did not like my counter offer. This was a year ago. I will post on how to reinstate the account on a new post.

Moral of the lesson learnt is do not discuss ppm on their site- take them offline to discuss anything financial cause it takes only one fu'ked up ***** to have your profile deactivated.

If you have a list of your quality ones that provide GFE's, BBBJ, cim, rim and video friendly. Pm me and I can trade mine since I am taking a break from this.

Good luck guys!

[Emjay]

This one is in Columbia and wanted 400 to drive here. I declined. She called me yesterday and said she had a meeting in Charlotte at 4 and could do 300 since she would be here.

I didn't have time. She strikes me as a pro. When I inquired about her no list, she said no anal, no CIM and CFS.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...b-fe79223a8a22

Anyone met this girl any reviews?

Thanks.

[MattBrown]

She used host and was worth it for $200 last yr. At 500-550 now (400 + room) new rate, not worth it. You can do much better. She was willing for 250 + rm (400 total). Still not worth it for 6/10.

My prev session was rushed and dropped her after that. She is semi-pro, I wonn't risk bb with her.

Met with her yesterday.

Pros: Slim sexy body, nice apple bottom and her (natural) tits are amazing. She's really cool and down to earth and she's a firecracker in the sack. She's like it hard and the dirty talk was good. She's definitely a pleaser and a lot of fun.

Cons: The only con I had was her teeth. If she got her teeth fixed, she'd be a solid 7.5.

All in all, I enjoyed myself. She was sweet, very accommodating and personable and she is hot in bed. A lot of girls could learn a lot about how to treat a man, especially one that is spending his hard earned money and time on you, from her.

[ThriveToLife]

Hello, fellow mongers. Thanks for your contributions in this thread. Below are my experiences to share with you:

Browneyedbeauty. <<https://members.seeking.com/member/2...b-40828c943630>>.

Comments are dead on with this one. Negotiations started at 400 and politely declined. A day or two later, was willing to come down to 250, but then ghosted. I guess it depends on needs.

<<https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...c11e284178c3>> Took forever to respond, but did respond and I had left already.

<<https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...7a4546466b6b>> Replied and started negotiations at 400, which I passed and she came back at 300. Once again, took too long to reply and missed her.

<<https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...41f434ba7421>> Replied, provided my digits and then ghost.

<<https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...de074e433f84>> I met this one. Damage 300. She's on the shy side and not for everyone. If you are too aggressive in chat, may shutdown. Unbelieveable body. BBFS, but no CIP I would have seen her a second time, but ran out of time.

<<https://members.seeking.com/member/8...6308f1364683>> Met this one. Damage 200. Older, but simply down to earth. Not local to Charlotte, but will travel for right price or person.

<<https://members.seeking.com/member/9...66b3e0dc23dc>> This one contacted me days later, too late.

<<https://members.seeking.com/member/9...35e6932d1500>> This one contacted and was set to meet, then silence until the day I left. Didn't meet.

<<https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a2b7cc296c3a>> Shared her number then silence.

As you can see, not great experience. Thanks.

[TheMechanik365]

Of SA. There are a lot of scammers, pic sellers and attention seekers. Weeding through all the profiles is tiresome. I'm sure there are some gems on there but holy cow they need some kind of quality control.

[TheMechanik365]

I was pretty happy with her until she raised her price all of a sudden. She is pretty good time though but I'm seeing two that also make me very happy. Both are pleasers and firecrackers and pretty good looking as well... and for less than what this one wanted. Each person had diff price point amd what value means but for me, 400+ has got to be someone that gived me out of this world sex. And I have had those before. Thanks for the report.

Sounds like you found a couple of gems.

Anyway, yeah the price tag is a little steep but I needed some release and didn't want to play games. I've had some cheaper offers but they seemed a little too business like or like it was 50/50 if they would even show. This one seemed playful and enthusiastic over the phone and I was right. She came prepared and then some. Was on time and was just very cool.

I don't know what you consider out of this world sex but like I said, she was great in the sack.

[TheMechanik365]

So what is she without her teeth fixed. Me personally anything 5 and below you get them off stg or the corner. No way I would spend several hundred on 5 and below.

I'd say a 6. Slightly above average on a scale of 1-10. Like I said, she's a cute GND and her body is really nice. Best natural tits I've seen in a long time.

I grade hard. 8-10's have to be special looks wise but I will say the overall experience was a 9.

[Grasshopping]

Met with her yesterday.

Pros: Slim sexy body, nice apple bottom and her (natural) tits are amazing. She's really cool and down to earth and she's a firecracker in the sack. She's like it hard and the dirty talk was good. She's definitely a pleaser and a lot of fun.

Cons: The only con I had was her teeth. If she got her teeth fixed, she'd be a solid 7.5.

All in all, I enjoyed myself. She was sweet, very accommodating and personable and she is hot in bed. A lot of girls could learn a lot about how to treat a man, especially one that is spending his hard earned money and time on you, from her.

I was pretty happy with her until she raised her price all of a sudden. She is pretty good time though but I'm seeing two that also make me very happy. Both are pleasers and firecrackers and pretty good looking as well... and for less than what this one wanted. Each person had diff price point amd what value means but for me, 400+ has got to be someone that gived me out of this world sex. And I have had those before. Thanks for the report.

[Konabiker083]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...f-c1d38896cf49

This one actually wanted 500 per meet, no time limit. It took everything I had not to laugh LOL.

[BussaNut]

Met with her yesterday.

Pros: Slim sexy body, nice apple bottom and her (natural) tits are amazing. She's really cool and down to earth and she's a firecracker in the sack. She's like it hard and the dirty talk was good. She's definitely a pleaser and a lot of fun.

Cons: The only con I had was her teeth. If she got her teeth fixed, she'd be a solid 7.5.

All in all, I enjoyed myself. She was sweet, very accommodating and personable and she is hot in bed. A lot of girls could learn a lot about how to treat a man, especially one that is spending his hard earned money and time on you, from her.

So what is she without her teeth fixed. Me personally anything 5 and below you get them off stg or the corner. No way I would spend several hundred on 5 and below.

[TheMechanik365]

Browneyedbeauty.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...b-40828c943630

She's been around for a few years but has a new profile now. Used to go by. SexyBrunette69 (do a search on a0e37696d968 and you'll find reviews on her previous profile).

Real. Nice looking, slim, and nice natural boobs. The only drawback is her teeth that can use some dental work. Slihht cigarette breath sp depending on how sensitive you are with that. Nice BBBJ, ok kisser, and will do BBFS if you can show test results (or vouch that youre disease-free). No anal but loves her vibrator. Wants 400 now plus room and won't back down from that price. She's up in Belmont area.

Met with her yesterday.

Pros: Slim sexy body, nice apple bottom and her (natural) tits are amazing. She's really cool and down to earth and she's a firecracker in the sack. She's like it hard and the dirty talk was good. She's definitely a pleaser and a lot of fun.

Cons: The only con I had was her teeth. If she got her teeth fixed, she'd be a solid 7.5.

All in all, I enjoyed myself. She was sweet, very accommodating and personable and she is hot in bed. A lot of girls could learn a lot about how to treat a man, especially one that is spending his hard earned money and time on you, from her.

[John Marigold]

You need to clear your mailbox. Had a PM bounce.

Thanks for letting me know. I cleared some space.

[Tryon]

I don't know why, but lately I have been getting some real 5 star talent reaching out to me on SB. I'm talking about the most attractive 1% of the girls on SB, the ones that an average guy like me would not expect to hear back from. I have a very good success rate with the 3-star girls and a fairly good success rate with some of the 4-star talent, but I have had at least 5 or 6 of the 5-star girls that have started texting with me and we are talking about meeting up for fun. I sure wish this could get spread out a little more but I need to take advantage of their interest and availability now. I didn't do anything special on my profile. I met with one of them last week and she was unbelievable; maybe the best full GFE I have ever had and she was drop dead gorgeous. Asian descent, but not East Asian. We text back and forth all the time now. Will see her again soon.

You need to clear your mailbox. Had a PM bounce.

[AkaToneloc]

BTW, many of those 400 or higher, turned into multi- hour, multi-pop dates with lots mileage I would have never get in an independent or AMP, Eros girl, or even UTR pro. So if 400 instead of 200 or 300 means I'm over paying, tell me what I'm doing wrong or show me some 20 something 8's and 9's that will respond and show up.

The above is my exact thoughts. I likewise typically only pursue what I perceive as 8's or higher. Personally, I ignore the ones that profile mentions they are passport ready, love traveling, arm candy, or upgrading their lifestyle and I average 400 ppm. Only once I agreed to 500 but she's a hot Colombian fantasy come true for me LOL.

[Hiamey]

Maybe you or someone else can help me? All I did was go to the profile and copied the link.

Is there something I'm missing?

When in their messages, click on the SBs picture. That takes you to their actual profile. Copy the link from there.