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07-20-22 08:22 #14510Senior Member

Posts: 548Saje
A lady who coordinates her nails and her rings with her underwear is paying attention to details. Just sayin'.
Originally Posted by Gene2
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07-19-22 21:33 #14509Senior Member

Posts: 134Jesse at Pacific
I decided to try someone new. Jesse at Pacific on 44th. I searched the forum but couldn't find any posts on her. Decided to TOFTT.
Experience was mediocre. I hadn't been to Pacific in quite some time and now I remember why. Place is kind of a dump. Has a musty smell to it. The rooms aren't exactly clean. Jesse is friendly. Not the girl in the pics, obviously, but looks somewhat similar. I got my full hour, limited menu. Technique on the HE was poor.
Even though the experience wasn't horrible, I won't repeat. There are so many better options.
Stay safe out there.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...e/025228328093
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07-19-22 20:23 #14508Banned Member

Posts: 1086Two girls with same name. Be alert.
Ok. So an FYI for all here. Shortly after I first reviewed Phoenix, the newest addition to Hunter's Den, another girl started using the same name, posting under Escorts on STG. The real Phoenix posts under Massage on STG. And she is phenomenal. The imposter is reported to have all the bad habits we hate here (old photos, upcharge fees, etc.). To make things worse the imposter has a photo with a pink teddy similar to one worn by the Real Phoenix. Don't be fooled!!
Originally Posted by Raspitiun
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Here's the link for the Real Phoenix. Ignore the imposter one.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...x/808443790283
Hope that helps all avoid a disappointment!!
G2.
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07-19-22 17:01 #14507Senior Member

Posts: 32Phoenix
Had some spare time today so I went ahead and scheduled with Phoenix. I showed up at her incall to find her wearing an MSU t-shirt and some shorts with her ass peaking out. Massage was good some roaming. Flip has some more teasing then she moved on to the main event. Very s skilled with her mouth kept me on edge and had me begging for the finish. Cleaned up and donated before going on my way. Cannot wait to see her again.
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07-19-22 15:58 #14506Senior Member

Posts: 32Phoenix
Had a visit with Phoenix at Hunters den and all I can say is wow. When I showed up she was wearing a t-shirt and some shorts with her ass hanging out. She is fantastic provided a good massage with roaming. On the flip some more teasing and then on to the main event. I left satisfied and can't wait to go back.
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07-19-22 09:46 #14505Banned Member

Posts: 1086Saje
Well the fair maiden finally has a featured post with accurate photos. Her availability is typically limited but the online scheduler shows she has openings this afternoon! And her phone number is on the STG link below, so you can text her directly! And maybe she will want some mixed drinks to enjoy together. Jameson and ginger ale.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...u/863994307438
She's even hotter in real life.
Enjoy.
G2.
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07-19-22 09:02 #14504Senior Member

Posts: 203Pricing and menu at Serenity and Royal
If you don't like to discuss price openly, then you will not like Serenity and Royal, IMHO. That is required there.
Originally Posted by JD0953
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Suggested tip amounts depend on what kind of play you want. At either place, if you want a fun massage with some nudity, teasing and HE, you better be prepared to tip equal to the time fee plus another $40. If you are just looking for a HE with light over the clothes roaming, tip the time fee. If you want more, then it will be the time fee plus $100 to start, and probably quite a bit more. Even if you bring chocolates. Expensive, right?
And never worry about underpaying at those places. It isn't possible. They will discuss the required price openly, so you will know exactly what minimum you must pay.
Hope that helps.
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07-18-22 22:51 #14503Banned Member

Posts: 1086That's the dilemma or quandary.
Hey JD.
Originally Posted by JD0953
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You've asked the question that's led me to my conclusions about the superiority of up front cost places like BodyworkByUs and Hunters Den. While my opinions aren't universally shared here, I do believe the majority are in agreement. I respect the viewpoint of opposing thoughts and a give a hat tip to their superior negotiating skills. My guess is that ones who promote the open ended price shops have their negotiated prices and product nailed down before they ever text or walk in. However, that's not the approach less savvy clients possess, which is at least 90% of mongers. Years worth of careful negotiating and artful deal making has led these men to get "deals" you and I could never achieve.
There also is an unspoken allegation that those of us who promote a parlor or provider get discounted services or freebies. While I do suppose that may exist, it doesn't for me. For one, I've never wanted to become a paid endorser. Second, I hold the women who provide these services in high regard (perhaps higher than I should). I mean what they do for us, what sights they behold (a man's hairy ass, etc), the smells, the sounds, the cheap cologne, the sweat, the stale cigarettes odor, bad breath, the secretions. It's all too graphic. How could I ask them to forgo even a portion of their fee because I wrote a few words on their behalf? If some men here do that, more power to them. I just can't justify doing that.
So, many here have an AMP approach to cost, tips, and services. Most AMPs operate with middle aged matrons who speak very little English, provide a generally good massage with a happy ending. This baseline service has a typical tip that is slightly lower than the door fee for the half hour or hour. So a $50 half hour may include a $40 tip for a happy ending. Such things as under the clothing roaming, prostate massage, topless roaming, BJs, etc will move the tip to $50-$100. Full service is more rare at AMPs here, but might move the tip to $100-$200 depending on age, attractiveness, and even English comprehension of the provider. Places in Orlando FL routinely provide 20 and 30 year old cute Asian girls who provide phenomenal FS with extras we never see here all for $200 total cost for a 45 minute adventure. But I digress.
Here we tend to appreciate the massage girls that get naked, allow roaming, and provide a HJ or Russian finish. We also appreciate it when they don't negotiate but let us tip what we want. And most of us tip any where from matching the door fee to 150% of the door fee. So a $50 half hour massage has a $50 to $75 upcharge. A $80 hour massage has a $80 to $120 upcharge. And if the place allows DATY or BJs or FS the cost incrementally rises.
The problem is that so many of the parlors employee providers who know that if they tease sufficiently, and get the guy worked up they can tell him what the tip will be. And they will ask a lot based upon their cuteness, and your hardness. Recent reports showed one mildly attractive provider wanted $50 for a hand job, an additional $50 if she got topless, an additional $50 if she got nude, and an additional $50 if she gave a body slide. So the dudes hour massage ended up costing $280 for what BodyworkByUs does for $180. And dude had to get off the table and get the cash.
So now you see the draw for the up front pricing. Artful negotiators here are willing to leave without an orgasm or do it themselves to get the provider to accept what they offer. Of course, the obvious flaw here is that an annoyed provider lessens the experience quality for the paying customer. So if you're looking for cost containment, up front pricing gives that to you. If you want the slightly expanded menu you MIGHT find at open end price places, using Bbu prices as a model might help you to negotiate a better price. And in the interest of full disclosure, many BodyworkByUs clients leave a small tip ($20 to $30) in addition to the $120 for half hour, $150 for 45 minutes, $180 for hour (but many clients leave $0 tip). So that can help you to compare apples with apples.
I hope this discussion of consumer economics didn't bore you to sleep. Oh well, not all my posts can be about the divinity of the touch of Lauren's bare breasts on my body!
Enjoy.
G2.
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07-18-22 19:53 #14502Senior Member

Posts: 35Not worth it
Not worth the time to set it up. Tried for a last minute appointment after work one night, a quick bums rush with no satisfaction. She was more interested in paying her pimp or pusher who you had to walk past.
Originally Posted by JpWrong67
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07-18-22 10:55 #14501Regular Member

Posts: 8Suggested tip amount
What is the suggested tip amounts for Serenity and Royal? What is on the menu? I don't want to overpay on underpay. I don't like to discuss price openly.
Originally Posted by Gene2
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07-18-22 10:10 #14500Banned Member

Posts: 1086Erstwhile wondering of what might have been.
So. Wonder no more. Experience for yourself. Starting Thursday.
Originally Posted by Gene2
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https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...r/825647795429
Once again. My timing stinks. I'll be out of state for work. Pity me.
G2.
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07-18-22 08:56 #14499Senior Member

Posts: 404Reyna. BBU
Long time BBU fan. Have seen many of the beautiful women at BBU. All are great, sexy and provide a consistent result. New place in Wyoming is safe, clean and parking is easy. Saw Reyna last week. Amazing visit. She is very friendly and easy to talk too. Got comfortable immediately. Good massage with just the right amount of pressure. Nice teasing. On the flip she got me to the edge several times, which I loved and then a great finish. Fantastic natural rack and allows much roaming. Most sexy and sensual provider I have seen at BBU to date. I would check her out if you like a nice slender, curvy, sensual woman. I will repeat. $$ + I gave her a tip for such a great job!
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...1/165819126802
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07-18-22 05:26 #14498Banned Member

Posts: 1086Saje at BodyworkByUs with link and
I forgot to include the link to her STG featured post. Once again, accurate photos, but the fail to capture the striking beauty of this all star.
Originally Posted by Gene2
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https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...u/532112769365
The online scheduler for Bbu shows she's available Tuesday 2-6, Wednesday Noon-4:00, Thursday 2-6, Friday Noon-3:30, and Sunday 2-8. So plenty of options at this point. She's a breath of fresh youthful air in this hobby with a great personality to enjoy while you gaze upon the impeccable body and soul searching eyes. You will be smitten. And you will want to return.
The look reminds me of a young Nicole Kidman.
Enjoy.
G2.
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07-18-22 01:01 #14497Senior Member

Posts: 249Dude
Nope, it's definitely money driven. I used to frequently do BBFS at Panacea. Just no one knew about it except myself and my provider (no I won't tell you) who I paid very well.
Originally Posted by BoomStick26
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07-17-22 22:30 #14496Senior Member

Posts: 548Flat rate
Agree 100%. I'm a big fan of flat rate because it's a natural quality screener on both sides. If a shop like BBU can charge 180/ hr and stay in business with satisfied customers then that says a lot about the shop. And if guys walk in knowing that's the rate then the ladies don't have to worry about getting shorted on tips by some slob who wants to grope and run. It just takes a mutual understanding of what that rate covers, which is easily established in one meeting and / or communication among mongers. If two people then choose to work out any additional arrangements that's up to them without affecting everyone else. It can be a bit like dating. One side offers a little extra money or service with no questions asked, and if the other side reciprocates then that becomes mutually beneficial. If the offer is not balanced then things simply go back to the base rate and expectations and everyone's happy. I know some guys enjoy haggling and working with a more flexible (if unpredictable) menu. Nothing against that. It's just not for me.
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