Stupid Shit In San Diego

[Ryan1979]

Ok cool and yes I guess that's a good idea going forward. Ask the spa girl if she is cool with it. The Korean agency girls mostly advertise so it's not a secret.

Cheers.

Know that the agency or spa advertises whatever they think will entice the reader, not what the provider may actually allow. I'm sure many have experienced this conflict of what's advertised as opposed to what's actually provided.

If at a new place with a new girl, I treated it like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get, but once you get a little bite, the rest is up to you to enjoy it or spit it out.

[Ryan1979]

Well sir, there is the true definition of a "white knight" and you have the forum's version of a white knight.

I think most know the difference and I strive to fall within your definition.

If you're going to be quixotic, your way is most noble.

Respect!

Yes it is true, I tend to be a bit quixotic at times.

If by treating women right, speaking of treating women right, and encouraging mongers to treat women right makes me a White Knight, well I guess that I'm a White Knight.

I can live with that.

Believe me, I've been called much worse. And that is by very reliable sources who know what they're talking about. Max.

[MaximusKahn]

Yes it is true, I tend to be a bit quixotic at times.

If by treating women right, speaking of treating women right, and encouraging mongers to treat women right makes me a White Knight, well I guess that I'm a White Knight.

I can live with that.

Believe me, I've been called much worse. And that is by very reliable sources who know what they're talking about. Max.

[Ryan1979]

I don't always agree with all of your posts, but it's clear to me that you are being sincere.

There are those that use this forum to share sincere info, those that shill, have some fun, relive amazing experiences, supporting their favorite spas and girls, etc. . .

Then you've got those whose life exists on these forums. Keyboard kings. The member with the most posts is the king, if only in their minds. Then you've got the members that like jerking each other off by reposting their butt buddies reports with additional words of love and admiration.

It's all entertaining to me. Personally, I enjoy reading and adding my two cents most while sitting on the can. Some reports really inspire a good shit. LOL!

Be safe, support these working girls and enjoy life.

Post #19043.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4989-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=5960466&viewfull=1#post5960466

Post #108.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-i-p&p=5964498#post5964498.

I think that I am shareing pretty good information here on the forum, so maybe instead of making public accusations you should contact me via PM

[DelMar Surfdog]

Post #19043.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4989-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=5960466&viewfull=1#post5960466


Post #108.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-i-p&p=5964498#post5964498.

I am glad that you reposted those reviews. You're one of the better reviewers on here and feel that your reviews are honest and are not being compensated. Keep up the great work.

[Jaguar300ZX]

I went back and looked at your 56 posts as you suggested, not one was a review for any of the girls from VIP, VIP2 or NLBC. LOL.
The posts do paint a clear picture!

Post #19043.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4989-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=5960466&viewfull=1#post5960466

O-M-G, I wonder if this is the same 'Sunny' that worked at NLBC back in late March of this year!?
I had an awesome session with her!
4 ft-11 in tall, Big Fake D-cup boobies, (cartoonishly oversized for her frame) sweet tasting baby-smooth Kitty, Very Pretty Face & Light-Brown dyed Hair. Perfectly proportioned body shape (Spank-Bank worthy).
She Licks & Kisses everything, then the "Ten-Thousand Tongue Turbo Hurricane-BBBJ", followed by CFS Asian-CG, & Rev-CG.
Then finished in DATY-69 with BBBJCIM.
Only downside was in 69, her frame is so short that every time I pulled her pussy up to my tongue, her mouth would separate from my dick. (I'm 6 ft-1in to her 4 ft-11in) 30 min HF =$60 / Extra Tip =$160 with no drama.
I would repeat with her again without hesitation.
I really hope she is the OG Sunny!!

Post #108.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-i-p&p=5964498#post5964498.

I stopped into the Old VIP1 on Friday morning at about brunch-time, And Yes, it is Open -but just barely.
I walked right past the old homeless man who mumlbles to himself, strait into a slightly improved front lobby.
Improved only by the new metal security door that all AMP's use to seperate Business from Pleasure.
But it only offers some privacy, because you can still see strait thru the metal mesh down the hallway.
Business was slow, with only one girl working today, named Alisa, (pronouced 'A-Liz-a' -not 'A-Lee-cia')
I must've caught her off guard as she was actually in the kitchen cooking, and had to dash into the Manager's office for a quick outfit change.
Her spoken English is passable, but a few misspellings in her written English.
She escorted me down the hall to Rm. #5 on the right, and I was offered Half-Hour or One-Hour.
(Oh-Wow, -an entire hour! -that would've been unheard of during VIP1's former glory).
She asked me if I had been there before, I replied Yes and I mentioned Daisy, Lisa, & Jojo as my prior conquests, but she seemed unphased by any of VIP's Hall-of-Fame A-List.
I'm guessing that the new owners & staff are unrelated to the former ownership, so I just paid $50 for 30-Min's and assumed the position.
She started off very professional, asking Hard? Or Soft?, Do you want Oil Yes?/ No?, Blah-blah-blah.
(I'm really not used to these long introductions at VIP1, I mean normally I'd be waist-deep in Breast's, Asses, & Vagina's within the first 5-Min's here).
Ok, I get it, she wants some reassurances that I'm a safe customer, because my nefarious reputation does not proceede me here under the new management.
So I ask her to spray my hands with her bottle of Alcohol (so that I can grope her Ass in a sanitary fashion to pass her LE check).
I know they appreciate these little attemps at cleanliness. So, after wipeing my hands dry, I immeadiatly flip over and ask her "How about Junior?
She looks at me puzzled for a moment, but I quickly relieve her suspiscions by gliding my hand up underneath her dress to cup and fondle her Ass Cheeks without any protest from her.
I'm pleasently surprised to discover that she goes Commando.
Ok its Game-On, and now were cool with each other.
She then asks "What would you like? And how much you Tip?
It's been a long week for me and I'm not feeling too energetic, so I just request to be serviced without working up a sweat.
I request the basic, DATY-69 w / BBBJ, with CFS Asian-CG finish. And I offer her $140, she aggrees quickly without an issue.
Off with her one-piece dress, she's full-figured, -but not chubby, Soft Youthful skin, Natural D-Cup, Clean Smelling, Trimmed Kitty, Cute Face (she wears glasses, but not during the session).
I'd put her age at 31-34, and she likes it when you to fondle her boobs.
Now the weird part, I asked her if she had a Business Card with the AMP's Name & Phone number, and she said "No Business Cards, No Names, and no plans to get any" . WTH!?
But she then pulls out her phone and shows me the phone number on a cut-off image of a different AMP's Business Card. . WTH!?
She then tells me that the Phone number is for a Different AMP in SV which she is going to refer me to, and tells me to ask for 'Jenny'.
Then she gives me her personal Phone Number with a L. A. Area code, and the hand-written address of the other AMP in SV.
I get the feeling that that there's no intention to develop the talent at this spot, which is just riding upon the reputation of its prior success, and diverting customers to their other AMP (5-Star) only until the lease at this location runs out.

I think that I am shareing pretty good information here on the forum, so maybe instead of making public accusations you should contact me via PM

[RChangDatyKing]

I actually do have reviews for NLBC here in this forum. I have seen Sunny, Apple, and Cici at NLBC (VIP2).Go back and read my posts. And my resource is a publicly available website called; Crimemapping.Com

I went back and looked at your 56 posts as you suggested, not one was a review for any of the girls from VIP, VIP2 or NLBC. LOL.

The posts do paint a clear picture!

[ModManSD]

I like these spas too and most of their girls. The long winded reports used to be entertaining but not when they comprise of the majority of reports. Then you have the members that will repost the whole novel with something short to add

The reports are entertaining, but I've been finding myself lately quoting GySgt Hartman. .

"You think you are Mickey Spillane?" LOL.

[Ryan1979]

I like these spas too and most of their girls. The long winded reports used to be entertaining but not when they comprise of the majority of reports. Then you have the members that will repost the whole novel with something short to add to their reports count and earn their pay with something like "I agree. " Also becoming ever so popular is the tagging of several reports to reply to. Sigh.

Note the popular mongers that didn't defend themselves. Take a good hard look at their history and recent trends. Some previously sincere members have unfortunately been corrupted. Know that these members not only make up pseudo reports, but also try to paint themselves as players, usually lying about their age and out of spa escapades. But there are also many truths to these reports, fake or not, so take all posts with a grain of salt. I still like to check out some reports for myself, which usually separates the shills from the sincere.

I took a little heat from the spas that pay these mongers for their posts. They've shared who these members are though I'm not going to reveal for the sake of the spas, but I think it's pretty obvious. When the spas contacted me about this post, I told them plain and simple, I don't like you paying these fuckers to post shill reports for you. All of them said the same thing; all the spas are doing it so we have to or lose business.

I told them they don't need to. Let the reports happen organically like they used to, but the feeling is they will not stop until the other spas stop paying for these shill reports. How much some of you wonder? I've been offered between $500 and a $1000+/ month as well as paid accounts on RubMaps and other forums / websites that have reviews.

There are even some mongers with the nerve to ask to be paid for reports or do the opposite with straight out blackmail reporting to the police if not paid in some way. To the blackmailers, we have your numbers and most times your picture and plates. They've been distributed to many spas and working girls. In case you haven't noticed, you didn't close any of them or cost them the thousands you threatened as opposed to paying you off. If a spa closed that you threatened, it was not due to you, it was other circumstances. If a spa payed you for your blackmail, it's only because I didn't know them or you would be in my radar.

The good news is there are many hidden treasures out there that many of us like for their laid back, no rush services. They work harder to please because they do not succumb to paying for fake shill reports. I don't mind keeping them under the radar, but you know how to get a hold of me if you'd care to know some of these hidden treasures.

Number one rule always applies, if you don't like what you see or not feeling it, walk away. If you choose to stay, it's on you not whatever report influenced you.

I like those guys who write those reviews, and I like those spas, but yes, I agree. We don't need a hundredth report on Eva or Mina! I've created the FS subforum to try and create space in the massage forum for what that forum was originally about: places to go get a real massage and a happy ending. Talking about 108/ VIP / NLBC / Diamond / Smile etc in there is silly as those girls aren't usually real massage girls and FS is guaranteed.

I will admit that I became self conscious reading your post, because I frequently post about two particular spas.

Speaking only for myself, I can guarantee I have never been paid for a review or offered a discount or any special service. I would say the only "special" thing I receive, and not for my reviews, is a heads up when a new girl is coming. I have been asked to write a review without seeing a girl, and I have always refused (but I have never been offered money or sex! That might have changed things haha).

[FO9999]

I believe there's always been a handful of mongers that were rewarded in some way for posting reports about spas and specific providers. A pass on the house fee, a freebie or discount on services, etc. Then there are the spa owners themselves that would create accounts and post their own reports attempting to promote their spas and girls. Most are painfully obvious with their lack of English and writing skills, but even newbies would read them and think WTF.

As of recent, when a flood of reports dominated this forum, even senior mongers would elude to "creative" marketing skills by a spa that need not be mentioned. My point is, it was during this time that this forum began being flooded with long detailed Penthouse forum type of reports. Sure there were always those fantasy stories shared every once in awhile, to relive and share an awesome experience, me included. But the sheer number of these types of reports currently seems to be the new normal.

I like supporting a good spa and girl as much as the next guy, but I don't usually bother repeating what several reports have already said. I've mentioned this before and I'm mentioning it again only because it's become painfully obvious to me. As you read some reports and some blatant white knighting for the slightest of criticisms towards a spa or girl, just know that some mongers are being paid healthy amounts for their reports..

Right on. There are 50+ spas that are FS anyway. As they say $$ talk.

[RChangDatyKing]

I like those guys who write those reviews, and I like those spas, but yes, I agree. We don't need a hundredth report on Eva or Mina! I've created the FS subforum to try and create space in the massage forum for what that forum was originally about: places to go get a real massage and a happy ending. Talking about 108/ VIP / NLBC / Diamond / Smile etc in there is silly as those girls aren't usually real massage girls and FS is guaranteed.

I will admit that I became self conscious reading your post, because I frequently post about two particular spas.

Speaking only for myself, I can guarantee I have never been paid for a review or offered a discount or any special service. I would say the only "special" thing I receive, and not for my reviews, is a heads up when a new girl is coming. I have been asked to write a review without seeing a girl, and I have always refused (but I have never been offered money or sex! That might have changed things haha).

Self conscious? Waylay, bro you are a respected member and always offer great intel / guidance / recommendations. Why give a shit what some of these guys think. Even if you only reviewed one spa, you will still be respected by mongers because your reviews would be honest and the girls with the positive reviews would all be incredible, and you would never discouraged anyone from going to their competitions. I can always rely on your reviews on the 2 spas, independents, non FS spas if that's where I am visiting.

Also, shout out to these other mongers for their intel and making this FUN!

If I am looking for intel about spas. I would look for your reviews, as well as those from PTJohnny, Mr. Muffman, CuriousJo8, FsSDMon. And of course Blue Sky Blue the one who got me to signed up.

If I want to know about Independents I would look for posts from. JackeRouac, Lion1, SDFitLife, Heywood, AJaxer11, BigChopper.

If I want HX, Asian agencies and FS escorts- Sir Bishop, IslandFan, Kwaze, SDPewPew, The Ass Man.

All these other gentlemen for everything else. LOL- Dog Rice, Stupitt, Denutss, DragonWolf, RolfTorren.

Thanks fellas! Happy mongering and stay safe.

[Waylay]

I like supporting a good spa and girl as much as the next guy, but I don't usually bother repeating what several reports have already said. I've mentioned this before and I'm mentioning it again only because it's become painfully obvious to me.

I like those guys who write those reviews, and I like those spas, but yes, I agree. We don't need a hundredth report on Eva or Mina! I've created the FS subforum to try and create space in the massage forum for what that forum was originally about: places to go get a real massage and a happy ending. Talking about 108/ VIP / NLBC / Diamond / Smile etc in there is silly as those girls aren't usually real massage girls and FS is guaranteed.

I will admit that I became self conscious reading your post, because I frequently post about two particular spas.

Speaking only for myself, I can guarantee I have never been paid for a review or offered a discount or any special service. I would say the only "special" thing I receive, and not for my reviews, is a heads up when a new girl is coming. I have been asked to write a review without seeing a girl, and I have always refused (but I have never been offered money or sex! That might have changed things haha).

[Ryan1979]

I believe there's always been a handful of mongers that were rewarded in some way for posting reports about spas and specific providers. A pass on the house fee, a freebie or discount on services, etc. Then there are the spa owners themselves that would create accounts and post their own reports attempting to promote their spas and girls. Most are painfully obvious with their lack of English and writing skills, but even newbies would read them and think WTF.

As of recent, when a flood of reports dominated this forum, even senior mongers would elude to "creative" marketing skills by a spa that need not be mentioned. My point is, it was during this time that this forum began being flooded with long detailed Penthouse forum type of reports. Sure there were always those fantasy stories shared every once in awhile, to relive and share an awesome experience, me included. But the sheer number of these types of reports currently seems to be the new normal.

I like supporting a good spa and girl as much as the next guy, but I don't usually bother repeating what several reports have already said. I've mentioned this before and I'm mentioning it again only because it's become painfully obvious to me. As you read some reports and some blatant white knighting for the slightest of criticisms towards a spa or girl, just know that some mongers are being paid healthy amounts for their reports.

For the record, I've been given a pass on a house fee from time to time, but never asked for and never for an expected report. More so for being a good customer that treats the girls and spa owners / managers well. I've been offered healthy amounts of cash for reports and have always refused. I'm still treated with respect and appreciation by the spa owners and girls and I suspect a bit more respect then you poor saps that need the money more than integrity.

Just my 2 cents.

[Ryan1979]

I'm more along the lines of Max's opinion. I'd like to think I'm just one of many that have a genuine concern for these working girls well being, but I am aware that there are many of you that could give a rats ass other than your own pleasure from these girls.

To your point, you are helping them pay their rent when you pay for these working girls services. To my point, I have developed many good friendships with these working girls and spa owners where we take care of each other as friends with benefits as well as just good old friends sharing life's pleasures and troubles together.

To only know these working girls from a sexual perspective, you are only touching the surface of the beauty and depth that lies beneath their flesh. I know this sounds corny to you based on your post, but from the stories shared by these working girls, there are many mongers that wish they could have more than just the sex.

I have the most respect for mongers with reports that reflect a genuine interest in these working girls well being, even if I disagree with their taste in women and their expectations.

Been on here for over a decade and rarely post. I've never disrespected anyone and have always had a good time. But to show a genuine interest in the ladies' well-being? Naw. I'll pass on that.

You going to ask Shirley out on a date or pay for her rent for the month? C'Mon. My white knighted brotha.

If this is too combative (although meant in jest) mods are welcome to not post.

[AMPguy2]

I've noticed that a lot of the hobbyists who consistently post having a great time with the ladies seem to be the same guys who show respect, compassion, and a genuine interest in the ladies' wellbeing and their connection to them.

Hmmmmm. Imagine that. Maybe something to consider as we are out there trying to enjoy the hobby.

Been on here for over a decade and rarely post. I've never disrespected anyone and have always had a good time. But to show a genuine interest in the ladies' well-being? Naw. I'll pass on that.

You going to ask Shirley out on a date or pay for her rent for the month? C'Mon. My white knighted brotha.

If this is too combative (although meant in jest) mods are welcome to not post.