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  1. #5368
    Quote Originally Posted by TailGunner1  [View Original Post]
    I think when people say "control" they mean control the situation. I know that's what I mean. If I am not sure of a girl and am doing a TOFTT I prefer outcall. When it's her room she has control of the situation. When it's mine I control the situation. Leverage is of course very important. Also being firm and letting them see that you are not one for nonsense also helps.
    My main concern with outcalls have always been 1. She'll know where I live so she can always come back and cause trouble if she's crazy 2. I don't want cigarette smoke all over. Now when I travel, sometimes, I'll have them come to my hotel. But I've run into issues there where the hotel charges me for a visitor.

  2. #5367

    Reading comprehension

    Quote Originally Posted by TailGunner1  [View Original Post]
    I think when people say "control" they mean control the situation. I know that's what I mean. If I am not sure of a girl and am doing a TOFTT I prefer outcall. When it's her room she has control of the situation. When it's mine I control the situation. Leverage is of course very important. Also being firm and letting them see that you are not one for nonsense also helps.
    Gunner you got it right!. I posted about control, and I explained about doing certain things to control the situation, not controlling a person. When you pick up a SW you may have leverage, a warm car or air conditioned depending on the season. But are you controlling the situation?.

    I'm talking about where I park, where I place my donation, where the meeting takes place, when I wait for the provider to strip first, locking the door and chain up, looking in the bathroom to make sure there are no surprises, and if nothing seems right I excuse myself giving an excuse I made up before the meeting.

    I don't try to control providers, they are free to come and go, but as for myself I control the situation and my leverage is what they are seeking $.

  3. #5366

    The Elusive Alona

    I finally got to meet Alona on Saturday. Timed it out just right as I was in AC over the weekend. I'm posting here because she is Camden / Gloucester county area. Any she is simply stunning and sweet! A natural beauty! I could see zero signs of use. Body is outstanding! Went steeper than usual at $350 for the hour but I would do it again! Everything covered, dirty talk, DT, "Cumming", Eye contact, Tight pussy. Fucking heaven. On top of all that she is just a sweetheart.

  4. #5365

    Eva

    https://cherry-hill.skipthegames.com...t/487301205969

    Saw her about 2 years back. Everything covered. Kind of rushed. Was on phone texting while hitting it from back which was kinda a turn off. Would not repeat based off last experience unless very down bad. Wondering if anyone has seen her recently and has feedback.

  5. #5364
    Quote Originally Posted by LukeWarmWater3  [View Original Post]
    I probably know the Chris your talking about. I can't recall an Olivia I was a customer of his and when he got in someone new. I'd get first crack at them. He's gone now.
    He goes further back than even when I started mongering. Tiffany, of the Tiffany and Angie and later Tiffany and Callie doubles team said she used to work for him before she went out on her own running girls. He wasn't exactly a model human being as a few girls OD'd on him and he was nicked for having sex with a minor. I assume he is in jail now or is dead but who knows. But he did run a better gig than your average black pimp. He was an out of site white pimp you really didn't know was around unless the girl told you about him.

    I made my own deals with Olivia after the first few visits. Obviously they were cheaper and longer calls. I saw a girl Rachel who was one of his but I think that was after he was gone and she went out on her own for a short time until she vanished. I probably saw other girls of his but never knew they were one of his. He would be running groups of girls out of different towns at the same time. All his girls tended to be very GFE. So while he was never going to win human being of the year we could use someone like that again. He had some really hot girl working for him that was posting for like a week or two. I saw her in the lobby with him while going up to a room to see Olivia. I planned to see her next time. She ended up ODing and dying in the room a few days later before I ever got to see her. Eh, this is what this hobby is.

  6. #5363
    Quote Originally Posted by TailGunner1  [View Original Post]
    I would say almost all of them pull in more money a year than almost all of us. Most of us make a good living. You have to to monger regularly as well as have a house, car etc. Most, but not all, of the really rich dudes tend to go for the very hot high priced escorts who would never advertise on stg or tryst. Many of those girls are like the ones you described as having their shit together. They are not addicts and certainly don't have a pimp. If they have a bf he is successful and doesn't care that his woman does what she does. She probably has a condo in a rich area and drives a very expensive car. Obviously most of us cannot see girls like that regularly. Certainly we can on occasion but we aren't seeing girls like that 1, 2, 3 times a week like we do these stg girls.

    Sometimes very rich guys do dip down. I used to see a girl Olivia many years ago. She had a white pimp named Chris. He ran a group of girls. If you were mongering in the Tom's River to Neptune area 8-10 years ago you probably saw one of his girls and may not have even known they had a pimp because he was very out of site. Anyway, one of his girls had ads up a lot. I forget her name and never saw her myself. Olivia told me this girl had some very rich old guy regular who paid for her boob job and gave her 30 k cash just for the hell of it. This girl proceeded to give Pimp Chris his full cut and still worked every day. From what I understand this rich dude wanted her just to himself. See the mindset these lower end girls have? She gave her pimp a cut that didn't even come from a call and kept working instead of shacking up with a rich guy. To any rich guys out there let that be an example that you are not getting any extra mileage from that girl you are showering a fortune on. The guy who was spending 200/ hr on her was getting at least the same mileage you were if not more.
    I probably know the Chris your talking about. I can't recall an Olivia I was a customer of his and when he got in someone new. I'd get first crack at them. He's gone now.

  7. #5362
    Quote Originally Posted by HunterJay  [View Original Post]
    Amen these chicks can never be broke they can make over $1000 a day if they have a heavy flow of customers and gross more than some of us a year without paying taxes the reason why these chicks can not save their money because they are candy addicts they make their money and run to the candy boys. Instead of saving their money to have better living conditions they prefer to live hotel to hotel that's not stable living chicks can get a one bedroom apartment and do their work at home in a safe place make money be responsible pay rent get rid of the boyfriend and pimp just useless baggage. But chicks with a candy addiction do not thinks like this I wish they would but it will never happen.
    I would say almost all of them pull in more money a year than almost all of us. Most of us make a good living. You have to to monger regularly as well as have a house, car etc. Most, but not all, of the really rich dudes tend to go for the very hot high priced escorts who would never advertise on stg or tryst. Many of those girls are like the ones you described as having their shit together. They are not addicts and certainly don't have a pimp. If they have a bf he is successful and doesn't care that his woman does what she does. She probably has a condo in a rich area and drives a very expensive car. Obviously most of us cannot see girls like that regularly. Certainly we can on occasion but we aren't seeing girls like that 1, 2, 3 times a week like we do these stg girls.

    Sometimes very rich guys do dip down. I used to see a girl Olivia many years ago. She had a white pimp named Chris. He ran a group of girls. If you were mongering in the Tom's River to Neptune area 8-10 years ago you probably saw one of his girls and may not have even known they had a pimp because he was very out of site. Anyway, one of his girls had ads up a lot. I forget her name and never saw her myself. Olivia told me this girl had some very rich old guy regular who paid for her boob job and gave her 30 k cash just for the hell of it. This girl proceeded to give Pimp Chris his full cut and still worked every day. From what I understand this rich dude wanted her just to himself. See the mindset these lower end girls have? She gave her pimp a cut that didn't even come from a call and kept working instead of shacking up with a rich guy. To any rich guys out there let that be an example that you are not getting any extra mileage from that girl you are showering a fortune on. The guy who was spending 200/ hr on her was getting at least the same mileage you were if not more.

  8. #5361
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance547  [View Original Post]
    The key to having success is leverage. Others say control but I don't like that word as I'm not controlling anyone and any provider with me is free to come and go as they please.

    In regards to Reds, I always picked her up on the cold winter nights in Kensington late at night off the street. When you pick them up that way and they sit in that nice warm vehicle and they know you're not going to give them any problems you get a break and they don't play games.

    When you contact providers online via the phone you have no leverage and lots of times you're not even speaking to the actual girl but her pimp / boyfriend. A decent looking girl can get 100's of calls / text a day and so if you don't agree to the donation they just ignore your number and go on to someone else because they don't need you when they have 50 other calls from desperate men who some have deep pockets. If you want a good rate you need to deal with the provider directly and when she's seeking refuge otherwise you have no leverage.

    That said, now days it's hard to find a good looking clean girl in the streets or even online. Not sure if it's temp or long term but I just want my $ worth and the AMPs are a breath of fresh air now.
    I think when people say "control" they mean control the situation. I know that's what I mean. If I am not sure of a girl and am doing a TOFTT I prefer outcall. When it's her room she has control of the situation. When it's mine I control the situation. Leverage is of course very important. Also being firm and letting them see that you are not one for nonsense also helps.

  9. #5360
    Quote Originally Posted by FunSaMale  [View Original Post]
    Don't send money. Don't fall for it.
    Amen these chicks can never be broke they can make over $1000 a day if they have a heavy flow of customers and gross more than some of us a year without paying taxes the reason why these chicks can not save their money because they are candy addicts they make their money and run to the candy boys. Instead of saving their money to have better living conditions they prefer to live hotel to hotel that's not stable living chicks can get a one bedroom apartment and do their work at home in a safe place make money be responsible pay rent get rid of the boyfriend and pimp just useless baggage. But chicks with a candy addiction do not thinks like this I wish they would but it will never happen.

  10. #5359

    Don't fall for the I'm hurting broke story

    Quote Originally Posted by ReadingNeeds  [View Original Post]
    https://south-jersey.skipthegames.co...s/179290598173

    Let me point out, that I saw Reds prior to "my new approach to this game. I am sure I over paid and more. Let me also state that she is a nice girl in a bad situation. I like her plenty but won't be repeating. That has more to do with feeling safe. But, she is as sweet as she can be in her position and I don't think that other mongers should feel unsafe with her. Just understand the situation. That said, she is pregnant. Didn't know that till I saw her. She says four months. I say closer to five or six.

    First time I contacted her she responded quickly. She gave me a rate of $. 5 HH and $$. 50 an hour. Seemed high and at 22 YO a little young for my taste as I continue my search for a regular. But, at 115 lbs, she was in my attraction "wheel house". Made a date and time. Pulled in 10 minutes early. Texted here and asked for room number. She had already asked me for a little up front for her room. Ughhhh. Dumb ass. Anyway, she says "give me two minutes I am paying for my room now". Then dark. Its a ghost. Course I recon'd the lobby right away and she wasn't there. So I figured 50 bucks down the drain and needed another friend. (strike one) That night she sends me multiple texts about how sorry she was. She feel asleep. Slang for nodded out. She's going to make it up to me (they all are going to make it up to me. After all they really care about me) . Unlike Tailgunner, I am quite "unmanly" with her and melt like the chump that I am (was). She has room problems again, sends me over priced personalized content. She is saying my name so not stock stuff.

    We make another date and I show up early again. But, now I have a room number. I park and recon. Tell her am 5 min out. A minute later her door opens and a BF or handler comes out, down the steps and sits down on the sidewalk. Ten minutes later she's ready and up I go, making sure to double lock the door. The guy doesn't look like he can handle even me so not too worried. I ask her about the guy in the Philles cap outside and she doesn't know what I am talking about (strike two). The date starts great. Very spirited and sloppy BBBJ. She tries really hard. Just about to enter heaven and ask about BB. She says, "I usually charge a hundred more for that". I tell her I don't have it, which is not true. Cause the light just went off in my brain. Just another girl with her hand in my pocket, but she really cares about me. She says, "well in that case let me get the cover". ... I carry my own magnums cause I have length and girth.... its a DNA thing. A gift from my Dad. I will never forget when he was old and dying, I have to help him to the bathroom and he sits down and says "ohh that's cold". I look down and man oh man, its way down in the water. Holy carp ! But, I digress. OK, here's where the cover strangles the hard on right off me. I have given her plenty more than the $100 and she is not giving that up to me for free. No free lunches and no free sex. (Strike Three, she's out) . I finish manually without the cover with a great tasting pussy on my face and gone in a 30 min full hour. Here's the deal. I will not repeat but she is spot on pictures. Except the pregnant thing. But, she's tiny, spirited and appears to like sex a lot. I like her more cause she was the last straw to my new leaf on my approach to what I am doing. She finished teaching me an important lesson. Well, some of the guys on this board helped too. I am a sex addict but I don't need to buy 10 bags for 50 bucks. Like I said, a year in and I am learning. Great hygiene. I like the pregnancy thing. Ahh just a fetish. Very pretty. But arms show subtle signs of her demons. I'd say she has a month left before she's gone for the baby. Got home, called the doctor, told him I have a sinus infection and took a dose of antibiotics. That fat pussy was worth the risk IMO. Tailgunner's name tells me what he wants. I should change mine to "pieman". Recommend if you can keep your fat wallet in your pocket. Don't go for the full hour. Don't trust her sob story. Duh. I did text her and tell her that should have been free and that I was out. Also told her I over paid. She assured me everyone gets the same deal. IDK, I doubt it. I am out of the FH business anyway. Sent me more texts for a couple of days "said she needed my help. Please". But, that probably was just her handler talking to me. I returned the ghosting favor.
    Don't send money. Don't fall for it.

  11. #5358

    Ginger in Browns Mills

    Any intel on this girl. She advertises frequently in south jersey. https://mount-laurel-nj.skipthegames...r/034237284157.

  12. #5357
    The key to having success is leverage. Others say control but I don't like that word as I'm not controlling anyone and any provider with me is free to come and go as they please.

    In regards to Reds, I always picked her up on the cold winter nights in Kensington late at night off the street. When you pick them up that way and they sit in that nice warm vehicle and they know you're not going to give them any problems you get a break and they don't play games.

    When you contact providers online via the phone you have no leverage and lots of times you're not even speaking to the actual girl but her pimp / boyfriend. A decent looking girl can get 100's of calls / text a day and so if you don't agree to the donation they just ignore your number and go on to someone else because they don't need you when they have 50 other calls from desperate men who some have deep pockets. If you want a good rate you need to deal with the provider directly and when she's seeking refuge otherwise you have no leverage.

    That said, now days it's hard to find a good looking clean girl in the streets or even online. Not sure if it's temp or long term but I just want my $ worth and the AMPs are a breath of fresh air now.

  13. #5356

    Who's the babe in the pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman007  [View Original Post]
    To answer a question from someone, when I see an escort I ususally put the donation down, and start getting busy immediately. If the provider makes a move to take the donation to put it away, I say leave it there is going nowhere.

    Most of the time they leave it there, unless someone is waiting for it in the bathroom or outside. That's way I always make sure nobody is in the room, and before entering I scan the surroundings.
    Any info you can share on the hottie in the photo? Would love to get down with that.

  14. #5355
    Quote Originally Posted by OverKill418  [View Original Post]
    I have an UTR babe that comes over. She lives very close and never had a problem. Now one of these STG freaks, no freaking way. I also have two dogs but they are harmless idiots.
    I prefer outcalls to me actually. That limits the choices for me because I don't do the driver thing so if they don't drive themselves or won't let me pick them up myself and take them back, I don't see them for an outcall. I don't pay Uber or Lyft. It will also show if the girl is really independent or has a handler. If she has been hiding it, it will come out once that hour mark hits LOL. If she is independent and having a good time, a girl will easily do 2 hours or so without an issue for whatever you agreed on for the hour. Feed them a meal and you'd be surprised how long she's down to hang around or do another pop. Plus on my home turf, I feel more comfortable and definitely not concerned about a handler knocking on a hotel room door, which I have experienced more than once LOL. If the girl insists on using her driver, etc, I move on.

  15. #5354

    Freak

    Quote Originally Posted by OverKill418  [View Original Post]
    I have an UTR babe that comes over. She lives very close and never had a problem. Now one of these STG freaks, no freaking way. I also have two dogs but they are harmless idiots.
    Who? Love to see her.

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