"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**FarFarAway** · 08-20-21 14:41

The question is, who is the bigger threat? SA, or the POT? I want to keep the girl from having my photo. I also should want SA to not have it either.

Some of the girl's profile pictures I've seen lately have been very obscure, if I can get something like that that is really me to work, I'll be OK.

Originally Posted by SaTraveler [View Original Post]

Do not send ANY pics on the site -- do not post a picture of you or anything like you. -- no not send pics via messages (if they let you) - and P.S. NOTHING IS EVER DELETED!

Then the SA moderators have nothing to hang their hat on and kick you off.

Basically imagine the site is hacked by the dark web -- and then the dark web has your pictures and MAY have even an E-mail or worse a real phone number and address (all that nice info you gave them).

Now you get blackmail threats showing your pictures and your SA profile -- just do not do it.

For EVERY potential SB - - this is what you message them.

" I will not put any pictures up on the seeking site as there is a good chance it will be hacked -- I am happy to txt you my picture if you let me have your txt number. Or I am happy to give you mine".

(it goes without saying that at least your number is a google voice number).

Be safe out there.

SA.

**Member #6575** · 08-20-21 14:38

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I've recently posted about sending my real pic to POTs through messaging on SA, as you can delete it off there. Seems safer. My profile pics don't include the face, and are thing I pulled off the web. Anyway, I just got my account suspended for this reason: 'pictures not of the person'. IDK how they can really tell that, but that is what they did. I have less than a week to go on this, I'll try to fight it, but just a cautionary tale. If you do sent a real pic, I'd be sure to do it in messaging w / the girl, and then delete it immediately.

Do not send ANY pics on the site -- do not post a picture of you or anything like you. -- no not send pics via messages (if they let you) - and P.S. NOTHING IS EVER DELETED!

Then the SA moderators have nothing to hang their hat on and kick you off.

Basically imagine the site is hacked by the dark web -- and then the dark web has your pictures and MAY have even an E-mail or worse a real phone number and address (all that nice info you gave them).

Now you get blackmail threats showing your pictures and your SA profile -- just do not do it.

For EVERY potential SB - - this is what you message them.

" I will not put any pictures up on the seeking site as there is a good chance it will be hacked -- I am happy to txt you my picture if you let me have your txt number. Or I am happy to give you mine".

(it goes without saying that at least your number is a google voice number).

Be safe out there.

SA.

**FarFarAway** · 08-20-21 14:38

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

I used a fake photo and sent a real one via messaging. She got mad about some toher stuff and reported me. Not sure if I deleted the pic or not, probably not, but it seems the accusation is all that SA needs.

They said to fix the issue, I had to submit a copy of govt I'd showing the photo on the I'd matched the one in my profile NOT.

So I created a new profile, but all my messages and traction are gone. Have to explain to ones I re-engage why I got bounced. They are understanding of discretion and if not, they arent for me.

Well, I don't know that I got anyone mad, but I am preparing for a trip, and the recommendation for road baby is to give them a real photo with the initial contact, don't wait for messaging. So I did some of that. When I deleted the real pic out of SA messaging, I had a little explanation concerning hacking etc.

I guess one of them who didn't reply could have reported me. I also just changed my profile, literally by the addition of one word, but of course those changes get the site police to look at the profile, which you really really really want to avoid.

I think a seasoned profile is very valuable just because it isn't as subject to the whims of the folks running SA. I will try to resurrect.

**RogerOver** · 08-20-21 13:13

Originally Posted by Shampoo55 [View Original Post]

Interesting to see the recco to use Marriott & Hilton for dating activities.

Recently seen this post which suggests those two might be less appealing.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...017&viewfull=1#post5501017.

No idea of the source, one would have to ask PP that.

At the very least food for thought.

Nothing really surprising here. Marriott has long admitted to assisting the government with "trafficking" etc. Most hookers I've met in these two chains, especially the higher tier hotels will tell me that they make themselves scarce. As in, no going down and having a drink at the bar alone, no eating alone in the restaurant, etc.

**Ernest Ll** · 08-20-21 12:33

Originally Posted by Shampoo55 [View Original Post]

Interesting to see the recco to use Marriott & Hilton for dating activities.

Recently seen this post which suggests those two might be less appealing.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...017&viewfull=1#post5501017.

No idea of the source, one would have to ask PP that.

At the very least food for thought.

This has been part of Hotel SOP for years.

They are more concerned with trafficking not solo practitioners.

I'm in the hotel business as a supplier and several of the GMs say they don't mind the solo pros -- they just use a lot of towels, but they always pay in cash.

**Ernest Ll** · 08-20-21 12:28

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I've recently posted about sending my real pic to POTs through messaging on SA, as you can delete it off there. Seems safer. My profile pics don't include the face, and are thing I pulled off the web. Anyway, I just got my account suspended for this reason: 'pictures not of the person'. IDK how they can really tell that, but that is what they did. I have less than a week to go on this, I'll try to fight it, but just a cautionary tale. If you do sent a real pic, I'd be sure to do it in messaging w / the girl, and then delete it immediately.

I used a fake photo and sent a real one via messaging. She got mad about some toher stuff and reported me. Not sure if I deleted the pic or not, probably not, but it seems the accusation is all that SA needs.

They said to fix the issue, I had to submit a copy of govt I'd showing the photo on the I'd matched the one in my profile NOT.

So I created a new profile, but all my messages and traction are gone. Have to explain to ones I re-engage why I got bounced. They are understanding of discretion and if not, they arent for me.

**TomDickNHarry** · 08-20-21 12:07

Originally Posted by LosCaballeros [View Original Post]

Give me a break, dude. At least five people have been scammed by her.

No need for the sermon.

I agree that we should all move on.

Didn't mean to be condescending, but my 2 cents is if you give them things in advance, you should continue to expect that to happen. If you don't do that it's impossible to be "scammed. " In 12 years on that site that has literally never happened to me. I've had other bad experiences but I've never had that happen because I never violate the golden rule (no pussy, no money) and give them anything in advance. People spent a lot of time on the FAQ and the advice is priceless.

Happy hunting.

**ThatSexyGuy** · 08-20-21 12:00

Originally Posted by Walruscl [View Original Post]

So after a zillion changes to my life situation (most for the better), I'm dipping my toe back into SA. I'm running into a curious dynamic where I have nearly 20 messages sent out to POTS. All but three are stuck in "delivered" status but have yet to be read by the SB. A minority are due to the fact that the SB simply hasn't logged in since I sent the message. Most of them have seen the SB's come and go multiple times but yet no sign that they've even opened the message. Nor has it triggered any activity in the "Viewed Me" list, so its not like they are checking out my profile and just ignoring the message based on what they do (or don't see).

I know SA was a tough road to hoe. And that it's a numbers game, but this is a whole new thing for me. Hard to overcome a numbers game when you can't get any sort of engagement with the POTS whatsoever.

Any thoughts? Anyone else run into this? For what it's worth, this is in the Boston Area.

It just depends on luck a lot of the time. Honestly I have so many messages from babies but hardly any of them are my type. I do have a few that are hot enough but they reply so slow. Luckily I lucked up with this girl I met a few days ago. I just wish it was easier. Makes you want October here faster when Only fans ends and winter begins!

**Walruscl** · 08-20-21 11:57

So after a zillion changes to my life situation (most for the better), I'm dipping my toe back into SA. I'm running into a curious dynamic where I have nearly 20 messages sent out to POTS. All but three are stuck in "delivered" status but have yet to be read by the SB. A minority are due to the fact that the SB simply hasn't logged in since I sent the message. Most of them have seen the SB's come and go multiple times but yet no sign that they've even opened the message. Nor has it triggered any activity in the "Viewed Me" list, so its not like they are checking out my profile and just ignoring the message based on what they do (or don't see).

I know SA was a tough road to hoe. And that it's a numbers game, but this is a whole new thing for me. Hard to overcome a numbers game when you can't get any sort of engagement with the POTS whatsoever.

Any thoughts? Anyone else run into this? For what it's worth, this is in the Boston Area.

**Shampoo55** · 08-20-21 11:53

Originally Posted by Lobsid [View Original Post]

Reward membership for Marriott & Hilton has day use option on some of their hotels. Like Dayuse because everything is opening up. There less hotels, and prices have gone up too. Between Dayuse, Marriott, and Hilton you should be able to find a hotel.

Interesting to see the recco to use Marriott & Hilton for dating activities.

Recently seen this post which suggests those two might be less appealing.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...017&viewfull=1#post5501017.

No idea of the source, one would have to ask PP that.

At the very least food for thought.

**Shampoo55** · 08-20-21 11:48

Originally Posted by Grafenberg [View Original Post]

I think the juice would have to be worth the squeeze, for law enforcement, and they don't need that. LE will have you at a hotel paying a prostitute. I'm sure the defense that she's not a "professional" will sway the State's attorney.

Eh, my concern isn't so narrow as a misdemeanor solicitation charge. Thinking out of the box and other scenarios that I have seen play out IRL when something else is associated with the hobby.

**Ernest Ll** · 08-20-21 11:01

Originally Posted by Btt123 [View Original Post]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ing-in-october

Good news for the bowl (hopefully).

Hot waitresses will finally go back to work.

**FarFarAway** · 08-20-21 09:46

I've recently posted about sending my real pic to POTs through messaging on SA, as you can delete it off there. Seems safer. My profile pics don't include the face, and are thing I pulled off the web. Anyway, I just got my account suspended for this reason: 'pictures not of the person'. IDK how they can really tell that, but that is what they did. I have less than a week to go on this, I'll try to fight it, but just a cautionary tale. If you do sent a real pic, I'd be sure to do it in messaging w / the girl, and then delete it immediately.

**TakesALicking** · 08-19-21 20:10

I think she's on here for the wrong reasons. She started some stupid ass convo with me of medieval philosophy and modal logic like some drunk frat boy would do. Does she think it's a good look for her sounding like she plays Dungeons and Dragons in her basement online? Being cute is only half of the battle.

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

MILF Marian https://www.seeking.com/member/fd77f...2-ca4a2c787b23.

Me: "So refreshing to find an adult on here. ".

Her: "As it is exhausting to get messaged by another married father cheating on his wife".

**Ernest Ll** · 08-19-21 17:23

MILF Marian https://www.seeking.com/member/fd77f...2-ca4a2c787b23.

Me: "So refreshing to find an adult on here. ".

Her: "As it is exhausting to get messaged by another married father cheating on his wife".