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  1. #5231

    Constructive criticism for Ratso100

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratso100  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys! My appointment was a little before Christmas.
    Just trying to help me figure this one out. My criticism it's not meant against you more so it's constructive.

    Like one of the other guys said you're a little late on this review. Working for the apartment scene it's important because some are only good for a week and gone. Plus without a name of the girl it's virtually useless unless somebody can pick her out by the overbite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratso100  [View Original Post]
    She was very polite and welcoming, and asked how much time I wanted. I am glad I only paid for the 30 because our session turn awkward. I asked her for her name but when I didn't understand her. I asked her to repeat it, . I didn't want to say anything because papasan was downstairs. Her whiney ass hit her own head on the wall of the bed and yelled..
    I know what you mean after you ask them a question so many times and they can't give you an answer you just get frustrated and quit asking. Perhaps repeating her name back to her getting her to acknowledge it could have helped? Or point at you and say "me Ratso" then point back at her hoping she'll give you her name again?

    Also banging her head against the wall, it happens in the heat of passion. All you could do pull her back towards the foot of the bed I guess? The fact that she yelled that is either heard it or she was just frustrated with you in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratso100  [View Original Post]
    She tone her attitude and said it was shaving my problem! That my shaved parts were irritating her. WTF. You would think a girl who does this for a living will be use to this shit but nope. Unless she had a stressed day, or she was new at this, she ruined the experience. She then proceded to give me shaving advice. Telling me, I missed spots, waxes are better, that I need better razors. I didn't know if to laugh or yell! She kissed me goodbye and led me downstairs to papasan at the door. Despite the rude service, I did cummed. Idk, Maybe next time, they will have the line up to chose from, or if I bring something bigger than a 20 for tips, I will have more fun. BTW, what's the difference between the usual vs GFE?
    GFE? It means girlfriend experience. I believe the term came from a girl treating you just like your steady girlfriend that you can do whatever you want with to a point. In other words she will make out with you deep French kissing, BBBJ, usually BBFS although some will draw the line there even if they claim GFE.

    One thing I found interesting was she was frustrated with your shave job. She must have been shaved herself?

    One Spa girl did tell me she doesn't shave because the hair provides a little bit of a cushion from friction. But another girl told me she shaves because it's clean, and she allows DATY. For me a shaved pussy is hard to resist.

    I shave myself strictly for sensitivity. Since I don't do much FS, I just feels better during a regular handjob when she rubs my balls and crotch. Also it feels great when a provider licks your balls, It just feels better to me. I think they liked it too. Picking pubes from your mouth isn't always desirable.

    However, a days growth is stubble though and it does feel rough and spiny. I usually shave the morning of an encounter in the shower and when I come out I put my reading glasses on and check my work. It's amazing how much you can miss. A shave job is only good for about 24 hours and to be honest doesn't seem to matter much during a hand job since they use so much oil. Some girls don't even notice it with the lights dimmed after the flip. One girl did ask me who does it for me oh, when I told her myself she was amazed. She undimmed the lights to see and complimented me.

    Okay, that's my $0.02.

  2. #5230

    Maybe I Can Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratso100  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys! My appointment was a little before Christmas. After the dissapointing session, I didn't want to come here and complain like my massage provider. But hopefully you can give me more info. I arrived to the gate and was welcomed sternly by papasan. Unlike some of your posts, there was no line up to pick from. Maybe because I was new or maybe because I arrived at night, there was only one girl. She was cute, tan, and looked in her late 20's. She was cute though except for her overbite. (It was slight but still noticeable) . She was very polite and welcoming, and asked how much time I wanted. I am glad I only paid for the 30 because our session turn awkward. I asked her for her name but when I didn't understand her. I asked her to repeat it, but she didn't answer and instead she ask me how old and where I am from? I repeated my question but she kept switching topics. I dropped it and paid my time. It was going good but suddenly when she was on top, she stopped and to change positions. She asked about any specific request and when I told her, she ask for more money. I asked how much, she gave no exact answer and I gave her the last 20 I've. She said no, any specific request or fetish will require more cash. At least she was honest enough to deny the 20, instead of taking it and then request more cash while my request was finished. After the 20 was turned down, she got back on top of me. The quality of the session went down. All she did was complain and told me to stop because she was uncomfortable. She requested me to switch positions for the second time. She kept complaining. She was annoying the fuck out of me. I didn't want to say anything because papasan was downstairs. Her whiney ass hit her own head on the wall of the bed and yelled. I cringed and I feared Papasan will knock on the door. She complain, cursed me out in English and probably in her native language as well. She rushed me to finish up. We finished the appointment but the ***** was talking under her breath. Damn, you would think paying for the tail will relive you of these troubles! She tone her attitude and said it was shaving my problem! That my shaved parts were irritating her. WTF. You would think a girl who does this for a living will be use to this shit but nope. Unless she had a stressed day, or she was new at this, she ruined the experience. She then proceded to give me shaving advice. Telling me, I missed spots, waxes are better, that I need better razors. I didn't know if to laugh or yell! She kissed me goodbye and led me downstairs to papasan at the door. Despite the rude service, I did cummed. Idk, Maybe next time, they will have the line up to chose from, or if I bring something bigger than a 20 for tips, I will have more fun. BTW, what's the difference between the usual vs GFE?
    GFE = BBBJ.

    I'm pretty sure you wrote this re a poor performing provider but I am reading it as a poor performing customer. Trust me, I understand your point of view. You are paying your hard earned money and you are the customer and therefore you are king. If you throw her a 20 she should bow to you because even if that is not alot to you, you think it is to her.

    You will find that in order to get the best experience, don't rely on your $ to make the difference for you. After all, that is the one thing all the customers have in common so you won't distinguish yourself this way. (unless you tip less than them.) You will still need to "try" like you do on a date, and you will learn to control the experience this way.

    If you treat her like a hooker she will behave like a hooker. Try treating it like a date. Be super clean and well dressed, cut your nails and shave. I know what you are thinking, why should I need to do that when I am paying? Because you want the best experience possible for your valuable dollar. She did you a favor by giving you pointers on your shaving, she could have said nothing. After all, you must have missed spots or she wouldn't have mentioned it, therefore it was a mistake by you not her, right? After all, you must have intended to shave if you shaved some of it. You can say it is none of her business and you are paying her not the other way around but then you are wanting better service and she is helping you understand how. Flatter her and be generous. If her head hits the wall its the guys fault, you should be watching for that and protecting her head (you are the man) so start further down the bed.

    I hope this helps and wish you better luck next time. I saw those girls before Christmas and my experience was completely different but I was clean shaven and tipped generously and I didn't treat them like hookers.

  3. #5229

    Huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratso100  [View Original Post]
    My bad. I caught myself on the rant! The 2188 number apartment near Archer and 49th. Sorry for the mix up.
    The 2188 place that is frequently reviewed and discussed here is on Western, not Archer and 49th. You went to a totally different apartment.

    Also, new girls start on the 1st, 11th and 21st of each month (same schedule for all apartments). You said your visit was before Christmas which means the girl is long gone already. With apartment girls, unless you post real time review it really doesn't help anyone.

  4. #5228

    The Chinese Hooker Experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratso100  [View Original Post]
    My bad. I caught myself on the rant! The 2188 number apartment near Archer and 49th. Sorry for the mix up.
    Radically different things can happen when you encounter an Asian prostitute at one of these places. I was a little rough with one troublesome teen (18+) and she was hopping mad after I slammed her in doggy and came on her ass. Not wanting her to complain to the management, I quickly gave an extra twenty to calm her down. She was still pretty mad, so I also gave her a $5 Starbucks "Year of the Pig" gift card. Her mood immediately changed as she cooed "It's so beautiful. " I added her on WeChat and I was on my way. It was pretty funny because most of these ****** greatly prefer cash.

  5. #5227
    Quote Originally Posted by Ratso100  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys! My appointment was a little before Christmas. After the dissapointing session, I didn't want to come here and complain like my massage provider. But hopefully you can give me more info. I arrived to the gate and was welcomed sternly by papasan. Unlike some of your posts, there was no line up to pick from. Maybe because I was new or maybe because I arrived at night, there was only one girl. She was cute, tan, and looked in her late 20's. She was cute though except for her overbite. (It was slight but still noticeable) . She was very polite and welcoming, and asked how much time I wanted. I am glad I only paid for the 30 because our session turn awkward. I asked her for her name but when I didn't understand her. I asked her to repeat it, but she didn't answer and instead she ask me how old and where I am from? I repeated my question but she kept switching topics. I dropped it and paid my time. It was going good but suddenly when she was on top, she stopped and to change positions. She asked about any specific request and when I told her, she ask for more money. I asked how much, she gave no exact answer and I gave her the last 20 I've. She said no, any specific request or fetish will require more cash. At least she was honest enough to deny the 20, instead of taking it and then request more cash while my request was finished. After the 20 was turned down, she got back on top of me. The quality of the session went down. All she did was complain and told me to stop because she was uncomfortable. She requested me to switch positions for the second time. She kept complaining. She was annoying the fuck out of me. I didn't want to say anything because papasan was downstairs. Her whiney ass hit her own head on the wall of the bed and yelled. I cringed and I feared Papasan will knock on the door. She complain, cursed me out in English and probably in her native language as well. She rushed me to finish up. We finished the appointment but the ***** was talking under her breath. Damn, you would think paying for the tail will relive you of these troubles! She tone her attitude and said it was shaving my problem! That my shaved parts were irritating her. WTF. You would think a girl who does this for a living will be use to this shit but nope. Unless she had a stressed day, or she was new at this, she ruined the experience. She then proceded to give me shaving advice. Telling me, I missed spots, waxes are better, that I need better razors. I didn't know if to laugh or yell! She kissed me goodbye and led me downstairs to papasan at the door. Despite the rude service, I did cummed. Idk, Maybe next time, they will have the line up to chose from, or if I bring something bigger than a 20 for tips, I will have more fun. BTW, what's the difference between the usual vs GFE?
    Thanks for the review, but unfortunately all of this information is pointless if you don't mention who you visited or what agency. Link or contacts please. Thanks.

  6. #5226

    Voting=no difference

    Quote Originally Posted by Dazhiba  [View Original Post]
    This is all the more reason to legalize prostitution. Make it legal, keep it safe and under some type of controls so that any woman who is doing it, is doing it of her own free will. I have spoken with providers who were lied to and controlled until they "paid off" a certain amount of money to the people who got them to the states. It can keep some of them in debt for many years. Vote Libertarian and stay safe.
    I'd love to see prostitution legalized like it is in many countries around the world. Unfortunately, between the feminists claiming that all prostitutes are 'victims' and the bible-thumpers screeching about the need to 'stamp out sin' there's not a lot of people friendly to the idea. That goes double for the police and different the's. A good 'human trafficking' bust makes the cops look good with minimal effort from them, while the the's can use such a bust to burnish their 'get tough on crime' credentials. As they said in the 60's, it's all nothing but political theater and the only real victims are the providers who have to live with the 'stain' on their records and the mongers who have to carry the burden of being 'perverts'. So odds are, it's not going to happen anytime soon.

  7. #5225
    Hey guys! My appointment was a little before Christmas. After the dissapointing session, I didn't want to come here and complain like my massage provider. But hopefully you can give me more info. I arrived to the gate and was welcomed sternly by papasan. Unlike some of your posts, there was no line up to pick from. Maybe because I was new or maybe because I arrived at night, there was only one girl. She was cute, tan, and looked in her late 20's. She was cute though except for her overbite. (It was slight but still noticeable) . She was very polite and welcoming, and asked how much time I wanted. I am glad I only paid for the 30 because our session turn awkward. I asked her for her name but when I didn't understand her. I asked her to repeat it, but she didn't answer and instead she ask me how old and where I am from? I repeated my question but she kept switching topics. I dropped it and paid my time. It was going good but suddenly when she was on top, she stopped and to change positions. She asked about any specific request and when I told her, she ask for more money. I asked how much, she gave no exact answer and I gave her the last 20 I've. She said no, any specific request or fetish will require more cash. At least she was honest enough to deny the 20, instead of taking it and then request more cash while my request was finished. After the 20 was turned down, she got back on top of me. The quality of the session went down. All she did was complain and told me to stop because she was uncomfortable. She requested me to switch positions for the second time. She kept complaining. She was annoying the fuck out of me. I didn't want to say anything because papasan was downstairs. Her whiney ass hit her own head on the wall of the bed and yelled. I cringed and I feared Papasan will knock on the door. She complain, cursed me out in English and probably in her native language as well. She rushed me to finish up. We finished the appointment but the ***** was talking under her breath. Damn, you would think paying for the tail will relive you of these troubles! She tone her attitude and said it was shaving my problem! That my shaved parts were irritating her. WTF. You would think a girl who does this for a living will be use to this shit but nope. Unless she had a stressed day, or she was new at this, she ruined the experience. She then proceded to give me shaving advice. Telling me, I missed spots, waxes are better, that I need better razors. I didn't know if to laugh or yell! She kissed me goodbye and led me downstairs to papasan at the door. Despite the rude service, I did cummed. Idk, Maybe next time, they will have the line up to chose from, or if I bring something bigger than a 20 for tips, I will have more fun. BTW, what's the difference between the usual vs GFE?

  8. #5224

    Nicha

    Quote Originally Posted by Green16  [View Original Post]
    Yes she allows greek but I don't understand all of the hype about Nicha.
    To each there own. I prefer the less assembly line feel of visiting her, she is lovely and so she fits my desires.

  9. #5223

    Others

    Quote Originally Posted by ApplePiePussy  [View Original Post]
    I would like to see more posts on the other 2 Chinatown apartments too. You know why we don't? Because Vivi and Amy are lazy. They put zero effort into their promotion. With the 2188, I can at least get a reasonable idea of who I'm going to see before I go. Sometimes they post real pics. Other times they post pics which are a good representation. And then there's Charlie who will go in and get their wechat pics for us. Vivi's promotion consists of the same two posts every rotation with the same fake pics. When you message her, she will respond that she has two girls, one korean and one thai, which is a lie. Amy's promotion consists of unsolicited texts telling you there are new cars in Chinatown. She's even lazier. She won't even post fake pics.

    The 2188 for the most part does things the right way. Sometimes they use old pics and sometimes they use fake pics but if you put in a little bit of reconnaissance work, you can figure out who they have. 9 times out of 10, the girls possess a minimum standard of attractiveness and have always been between the ages of 24 and 34. This isn't to say that Vivi's girls and Amy's girls don't. But you are basically going in blind. Some people like that. They like being surprised. But I'm not a 130 person. I'm usually a VIP person, so I want to know who I'm going to see.
    Right, you can't trust the managers of course, which is why I would like to hear more from the mongers that go to these places, so we don't "go in blind"" as you say. Especially re the other apartents where the 2188 girls go before or after.

  10. #5222

    Other Apts

    Quote Originally Posted by Desparado  [View Original Post]
    I would actually like to see more posts re other asian apartments. For example 35th and the other apartments in Chicago where the 2188 girls go. We have frequent posts on just one place with shills standing in the middle of the street waving mongers in which is not good for the customers that go there, especially with covid. Any good experiences at other asian apartments?
    I would like to see more posts on the other 2 Chinatown apartments too. You know why we don't? Because Vivi and Amy are lazy. They put zero effort into their promotion. With the 2188, I can at least get a reasonable idea of who I'm going to see before I go. Sometimes they post real pics. Other times they post pics which are a good representation. And then there's Charlie who will go in and get their wechat pics for us. Vivi's promotion consists of the same two posts every rotation with the same fake pics. When you message her, she will respond that she has two girls, one korean and one thai, which is a lie. Amy's promotion consists of unsolicited texts telling you there are new cars in Chinatown. She's even lazier. She won't even post fake pics.

    The 2188 for the most part does things the right way. Sometimes they use old pics and sometimes they use fake pics but if you put in a little bit of reconnaissance work, you can figure out who they have. 9 times out of 10, the girls possess a minimum standard of attractiveness and have always been between the ages of 24 and 34. This isn't to say that Vivi's girls and Amy's girls don't. But you are basically going in blind. Some people like that. They like being surprised. But I'm not a 130 person. I'm usually a VIP person, so I want to know who I'm going to see.

  11. #5221
    Senior Member


    Posts: 2110

    Prosecuted

    This is all the more reason to legalize prostitution. Make it legal, keep it safe and under some type of controls so that any woman who is doing it, is doing it of her own free will. I have spoken with providers who were lied to and controlled until they "paid off" a certain amount of money to the people who got them to the states. It can keep some of them in debt for many years. Vote Libertarian and stay safe.

    Quote Originally Posted by IAmPinoy  [View Original Post]
    I have no second thoughts disagreeing. Because real photos go a long way until someone find that those same pictures are being used against someone in federal court. AX lack of deception is one of several reasons why nine of the thirty six that were indicted by a grand jury. This is what prosecutors call an open and shut case. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is the website, these are the actual photos of the victims used in the website, and some of the victims in these photographs are here with us today.

    If someone arrives and we're greeted by someone who doesn't even resemble the photographs, and the girl so far from the norm but someone decides to stay anyway. The disappointment should only rest on themselves not on the agency / booker who is clearly avoiding the same mistakes that those appreciative individuals at AX had made.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirt...g-organization

  12. #5220
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmPinoy  [View Original Post]
    I have no second thoughts disagreeing. Because real photos go a long way until someone find that those same pictures are being used against someone in federal court. AX lack of deception is one of several reasons why nine of the thirty six that were indicted by a grand jury. This is what prosecutors call an open and shut case. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is the website, these are the actual photos of the victims used in the website, and some of the victims in these photographs are here with us today.

    If someone arrives and we're greeted by someone who doesn't even resemble the photographs, and the girl so far from the norm but someone decides to stay anyway. The disappointment should only rest on themselves not on the agency / booker who is clearly avoiding the same mistakes that those appreciative individuals at AX had made.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirt...g-organization
    I agree with that. I could've left. No biggie just wanted everyone to know.

  13. #5219

    Nicha

    Yes she allows greek but I don't understand all of the hype about Nicha.

  14. #5218

    Deceived

    Quote Originally Posted by GMan25  [View Original Post]
    In situations like this, I have no second thoughts about politely expressing my disappointment, no so much with the provider, but with the agency / booker due to the deception, and their hiring low quality employees. I remember AX would be very appreciative of feedback and if their provider consistently had negative reviews, they cut them loose. Real photos go a long way.
    I have no second thoughts disagreeing. Because real photos go a long way until someone find that those same pictures are being used against someone in federal court. AX lack of deception is one of several reasons why nine of the thirty six that were indicted by a grand jury. This is what prosecutors call an open and shut case. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is the website, these are the actual photos of the victims used in the website, and some of the victims in these photographs are here with us today.

    If someone arrives and we're greeted by someone who doesn't even resemble the photographs, and the girl so far from the norm but someone decides to stay anyway. The disappointment should only rest on themselves not on the agency / booker who is clearly avoiding the same mistakes that those appreciative individuals at AX had made.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirt...g-organization

  15. #5217
    Quote Originally Posted by UBeMyFriend99  [View Original Post]
    Can someone please provide a link or contact info for this 2188. Sounds really fun and different than the norm. PM or board post would be appreciated. Thanks!
    I second this!, if someone could please DM me info on this it would be much appreciated!

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